Meyer won't even discuss with Buckeyes how far they have to go to join nation's elite teams

After getting a close-up look of the national championship game as a TV analyst, Ohio State coach Urban Meyer did not rush back and tell his own players how close they are to competing with the likes of top-ranked Alabama.

Not even close.

Meyer says even discussing with his players challenging the nation's elite teams next year is "like me talking about we have to go fly to the moon."

The Buckeyes went 12-0 in 2012, finishing No. 3 in the Associated Press poll after serving a bowl ban.

Meyer, who is enthused so far about his upcoming recruiting class, added that he would demand his veteran players make substantial improvement — particularly on the defensive line, at linebacker and wide receiver.