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'The Five' preview President Trump's State of the Union Address

President Trump to stress unity and bipartisanship during his second State of the Union address; reaction and analysis on 'The Five.'

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," February 5, 2019. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

JESSE WATTERS, HOST: Hello, everybody. I'm Jesse Watters along with Sandra Smith, Juan Williams, Dana Perino, and Greg. It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and in Washington, D.C., and this is “The Five.”

President Trump set to lay out his vision for America in just four hours from now during his second State of the Union address. The president will focus on immigration, trade, national security, health care, infrastructure, and much, much more. He'll also use the prime time speech to call for unity. Counselor Kellyanne Conway saying it's time for Democrats to end the resistance politics.

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KELLYANNE CONWAY, COUNSELOR TO THE PRESIDENT: Anybody who's sitting there with their arms fold, hurumping, looking like they sucked on 12 lemons, that's on them, not him, because he's calling for unity. He's calling for working together. They're going to need to decide if they're serious about that as well. He is wanting the legislature to do its job, it's failed to do it for a matter of years if not decades.

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WATTERS: The call to come together is not stopping Democrats from firing shots before the president even hits the podium, like party leader, Democrat Chuck Schumer.

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SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER, D-N.Y., SENATE MINORITY LEADER: The president will say predictably that the state of our union is strong. But the truth is the state of the Trump economy is failing America's middle class.

The state of the Trump health care system is failing American families. And the state of the Trump administration is embroiled in chaos and incompetence. The gap between the president's rhetoric and the State of the Union and reality is cavernous. The blatant hypocrisy of this president calling for unity is that he is one of the chief reasons Americans feel so divided now.

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WATTERS: Trump hitting back on twitter saying, I see Schumer is already criticizing my State of the Union speech even though he hasn't seen it yet. And if Schumer isn't enough, Maxine Waters is taking it one step further by telling Americans to not even tune in tonight.

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REP. MAXINE WATERS, D-CALIF.: The State of the Union under him has not been good and he has been divisive. And I think he's putting us all in harm's way. And so, he's not worthy of being listened to. I don't know why anybody would want to pay attention to anything that he has to say. I'm not looking forward to the State of the Union, and I hope that people will turn the television off.

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WATTERS: Wow, tell us how you really feel, Maxine. All right. So you guys are in D.C. We're here in New York. I get to sit next to Greg, so I am thrilled.

GREG GUTFELD, HOST: What's wrong with me?

WATTERS: Not as much as Greg --

GUTFELD: Huh?

WATTERS: Nothing is wrong. You know, Greg, hurumping, this is the new Kellyanne Conway verb for what the Democrats are going to be doing. You think you're going to see lot of hurumping tonight?

GUTFELD: I used to do a lot of hurumping, and then I got some medication for it. The message of unity cannot succeed because the media -- their business model runs counter to that.

There's no incentive for Democrats to actually listen to Donald Trump or compromise when you know that the media will call you a coward for it. So as long as the media has influence the way it does over politics, we will never see compromise. It is not even about the Democrats or Republicans anymore.

It's the media and their business model of polarization that is going to keep it separate. What I'm interested in about the SOTU, as we call it in the business, the victim's chest, the victim's chest.

WATTERS: Yes.

GUTFELD: Each side brings a different victim and another one brings another victim to match them, and so you have a sexual harassment accuser - -

WATTERS: Right.

GUTFELD: -- and then you have a child who was bullied because his last name is Trump. If I were there, you know what I would bring to Trump everybody? I would bring somebody who had Dana's queso because that's the victim. That's the victim.

WATTERS: Those are real victims out there, Dana.

GUTFELD: I'm never going to let you forget it, Dana. What you did to America.

WATTERS: Dana, in all seriousness, I was speaking with your friend Chris Stirewalt today. We're looking at some really interesting numbers, how the State of the Union affects the presidential approval ratings.

And the only president that really got significant bumps from their State of the Union addresses, Bill Clinton, plus ten, plus six, plus four. No one else is even close. What do you think it is about Bill Clinton that he was so successful at these speeches? Is there anything Donald Trump can do to get a bump tonight?

DANA PERINO, HOST: Well, I think, one -- I don't think the country was as polarized back then. I also think social media has a lot to do with it. Juan could maybe fill us in. I don't know exactly what Bill Clinton was doing, but as I recall, Jesse, I think one of the reasons you might have seen that big bump is because, remember, he loses big time in 1994, and the Republicans take over.

And all of a sudden, what does he do? He triangulates and he starts reaching across the aisle, and now he's working with Newt Gingrich, and we've got a balanced budget amendment going on. We've got welfare reform. So all of a sudden, you see things that most of the country was, like, we want both of those things. So he moves to the center, then I think that that might be one of the reasons why, Jesse.

WATTERS: Yes, the era of big government is over. That was that famous line from -- I think it was 1996. Juan, you're down in D.C. with all your friends in the swamp. What are you hearing, what are you feeling tonight about the speech?

JUAN WILLIAMS, HOST: Well, I mean, it's all -- a matter of who's watching, right? So whose eyeballs are tuned in. Maxine Waters is encouraging Democrats not to watch, but Democrats say they want to hear a lot of talk about health care for example.

They want to hear talk about a better spending in terms of government services and products. But Republicans want to hear Donald Trump talk about the wall, immigration, terror. So it's like two sets of agendas from the people who are sitting in front of the TV, not the people who are being televised.

I would say in response to what Dana just said that what Clinton was talking about was a growing economy. And, of course, part of it was the triangulation she described, but it was the strength of the economy during the '90s, which, as you recall, was booming.

I think, tonight, President Trump is going to go after an economic message and say this is the good news of the Trump presidency. Look at the growth. Look at the low unemployment. And say this is the basis for us to come together.

That will fold into the unity message. The difficulty, of course, is that the Democrats will say, hey, guess what, the economy was growing under Obama. It's growing under you. This is nothing new, nothing so different. The president, of course, will point to -- I think you'll have a guest there who kept their job because of his tax cut package.

And again, the Democrats will holler and hurumph (ph). And it will be just a matter of who's listening. Who's on this side of the -- that side of the TV, and what their previous or, sort of, you know, prior position was, because it's just affirming pre-existing attitudes in a very polarized electorate.

WATTERS: Right. And, Sandra, what I think is going to happen as the president is going to hit the economic success message very hard because there's a lot of good things to talk about in the economy and he's been very disruptive on a lot of fronts, but you have to look at the results.

Now, when the media filters the State of the Union afterwards, and the next day to the American people, I bet all they do is they talk about immigration. They talk about the wall, and they talk about a few viral moments that catches everybody's attention. And those results are not established in the American people's eyes as much as they could be.

SANDRA SMITH, HOST: Well, he certainly should take the opportunity to tout the success on the economy. Remember, this is happening a week later because of Nancy Pelosi delaying it because of the government shutdown. And we are coming off of that jobs report last Friday that showed over 300,000 jobs were added in the latest month.

That being said, the reason why he'll be talking about immigration and the possible shutdown is because this is happening in the backdrop of yet another deadline that's quickly approaching. Next Friday, February 15th. And that is the deadline to fund the government.

So the president has to make his case tonight. He could make news on that front, whether he's going to declare a national emergency. He could also make news on the foreign policy front. When is this summit going to happen with Kim Jong-un? There's a couple of big pieces. But, Jesse, Greg, I think many of us and many Americans will be turning in tonight, regardless, but they will be watching the optics of the evening.

WATTERS: Right.

SMITH: Who stands, who claps --

WATTERS: Who's going to be hurumping.

SMITH: The hurumping -- and who shows and who doesn't.

GUTFELD: The best part is going to be Nancy's face behind. It will look like she just, you know, chugged a bottle of Dulcolax. She's going to be just so, just so unhappy. She's going to be very hard. But you know, the thing is, people are always going to focus on his manner and not his performance.

And it isn't just about the economy it is about foreign policy, also Supreme Court. North Korea is a big deal. I can't understand why the left isn't embracing this guy. He keeps shrinking the military footprint wherever he goes, and then you have deregulation. If all of these things - - but you can't focus on this because it's good news, and good news is no longer a business model.

WATTERS: All right, Greg will be live drunk tweeting the entire State of the Union --

GUTFELD: I will.

WATTERS: -- so make sure you're online --

GUTFELD: I will.

WATTERS: Virginia Democratic Governor Ralph Northam resisting calls to resign over a racist yearbook photo. And top Democrats dodge questions about a sexual assault allegation against the state's number two, see it next.

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SMITH: Democratic Virginia Governor Ralph Northam resisting mounting pressure to resign over a racist yearbook photo. The embattled Democrat digging in and reportedly telling his staff he will not step down and be known as a, quote, "racist for life." This, as the state's Lieutenant Governor Justin Fairfax is denying a sexual misconduct allegation from 2004. Fairfax also not dismissing a rumor that Northam's team may behind pushing the claim.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They said that you believe that the governor's team is spreading misinformation about your team paying comment on that, please, sir?

JUSTIN FAIRFAX, VIRGINIA LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR: Collective package, you know, made its statement, and so --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you believe it?

FAIRFAX: I don't know precisely where this is coming from. You know we've heard different things. But here's the thing, does anybody think it's any coincidence that on the eve of potentially my being elevated that that's when this uncorroborated smear comes out. Does anyone believe that's a coincidence? I don't think anybody believes that's a coincidence.

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SMITH: Meanwhile, top Democrats who were very vocal against Brett Kavanaugh are not rushing to judgment on Fairfax.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Allegations have to be taken seriously, but it doesn't change the fact that Governor Northam needs to step down.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think we should be focusing on what's right now happening with the governor.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you believe Justin Fairfax, his accuser?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: His accuser?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're not on the phone. You're not on the phone.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Excuse me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sir.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SMITH: Dana, are we seeing a bit of a double standard here when it comes to Democrats' handling of this allegation against Fairfax?

PERINO: Well, look, I would say, I don't think that rushing to judgment is a good idea at all. So I would appreciate it if that were applied for all people. Of course, allegations can be taken seriously by all people as well.

My reading of the Washington Post who has heard of these accusations against Fairfax before and they have looked into them and they never ran with them now, of course. Again, do they afford that courtesy to Brett Kavanaugh? No. But does that mean that shouldn't happen here? I would never want to say that because that would make me a hypocrite.

By all accounts, Justin Fairfax is actually a very well-liked person in Virginia, in Virginia politics. He's a liberal that gets along with a lot of people from both sides of the aisle. I think that he probably -- his team probably has a gut instinct as to how this surfaced.

Again, because Ralph Northam, when you're in a corner and you're not doing what everyone is asking you to do, which is to resign, you've got to figure out a way to punch some way. And I think that thinking about your second in line taken over from you is sort of -- I mean, this is, like, goes back in ancient history. This is what people used to do. They would always kill the second in line. I don't think that's going to work in this case, but I do think it's amazing that Northam is still governor and he has no plans to resign.

SMITH: Yeah. Juan, we hear about these meetings with his staff. There's been multiple, since this is -- since this has come up, and we've seen the pictures, so can you ride this out?

WILLIAMS: It got worse today with the release of more pictures from Eastern Virginia medical school, the school that Governor Northam graduated from, showing, you know, more pictures of people dressed up, you know, in confederate uniforms and more the kind of racist, you know, the head of the school said so many of the pictures were not only racist but repugnant is what the language he used, and suggested that they were just clearly offensive.

And these are more recent pictures, by the way, Sandra. So it's not even going -- you know, some people say it's back in the '80s. I don't think the '80s is that long ago, but I'm an old dog.

I just think that what you see now, if this is in the '90s and even in the early 2000's, suggest that there's a culture there and Northam might be part of a culture that is absolutely racially toxic and, again, hurt his chances.

But the reporting that we've seen out of the cabinet meetings that you've referred to is that his own cabinet, the people that he's appointed, are trying to be loyal to him but look back at that press conference on Saturday and subsequent comments, absolutely devastating, that it's driving down his support among all people, Democrats, you know, Republicans, blacks, whites, Asians, Latinos in the state. He's losing his ability to govern.

One final point, big-league politics which is the one that broke the Northam story and is now breaking the story about Fairfax, initially indicated that they got there leak on Fairfax from Levar Stoney's supporters. And Stoney is the mayor of Richmond, and he is a rival -- a political rival of Fairfax. You talk about Game of Thrones, we've got it going on in Richmond.

SMITH: It's tough to keep track of all the details of this story as it develops, Greg. But Dana referred back to that Washington Post report on Monday saying that it has been aware of the allegation --

GUTFELD: Right.

SMITH: -- against Fairfax for over a year, but was unable to corroborated it.

GUTFELD: Amazing.

SMITH: Fairfax, they say, incorrectly claimed that they didn't publish it because it found red flags with the woman's story.

GUTFELD: Unlike the story with Kavanaugh. No red flags there. What a beautiful bed the Democrats have made for themselves. When you look at it, it combines the excesses of the Kavanaugh demonization. What were the two big sins that rose to the top?

One was his yearbook, right? Everybody was talking about his yearbook. And then you also have the notion that we must believe everyone. So you had the sexual assaults from going back -- I don't know, 30-some odd years, but they must be believe no matter what, no matter how hazy the accusations may be.

So these things -- these events are now in the same case at each other's throats. You have the yearbook and you have a sexual harassment with the lieutenant governor. Both, apparently, are supposed to be believed at the same time. How long can this last? It's an incredible thing. And they're stuck with it. By the way, if this were a Republican, Washington Post, BuzzFeed, Huffington Post would be in front of the yearbook editor's house right now.

SMITH: Jesse?

WATTERS: Yeah, it's a dumpster fire in the state of Virginia right now. You have infanticide. You have black face and a sexual assault allegation. I wasn't in the room. I have no idea what happened, but the timing is very suspicious coming forward right now.

And the woman is using the same law firm as Christine Blasey Ford, so I don't really know. As far as the governor is concerned, part of being a human being is the ability to feel shame, and sometimes politicians just don't feel shame. Sometimes it's good for them. Bill Clinton didn't have an ability to feel shame.

GUTFELD: You're an expert on this.

WATTERS: Or someone like Anthony Weiner or Roy Moore. Thanks, Greg. You know, they also didn't feel shame, and look what happened to them. But Northam, obviously, doesn't feel any shame at all. He's not red-faced about being in blackface --

GUTFELD: Nice.

WATTERS: -- as he should be. So right now he's putting himself over the commonwealth of Virginia. He's lost all respect. He doesn't have the ability to serve. So, I think the state of Virginia, they're the ones that are really getting hosed here.

SMITH: All right, we've got to leave it there. Onto this story, the Kentucky high school student at the center of that controversial video gearing up for a potential legal battle against media outlets and celebrities. More on that just ahead.

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GUTFELD: It may be the first step in a libel suit, lawyers for the Covington high school student demonized by the media sent letters to 50- plus celebrities, politicians, and media organizations, including Alyssa Milano, Jim Carrey, the Washington Post, even Liz Warren received preservation letters which say you better not destroy any documents linked to the case.

I guess that means Carrey can't burn this painting. You thought his motion pictures stink, turns out the stationary ones are worse. Now for ages the media loved to hand out teachable moments, as enlightened ones they would school the dumb public on its prehistoric ways. But now the attack is reversed with a truly teachable moment for the arrogant, elite media who for so long loved to demonize you.

And it's not just about Covington. Those students are a symbolic target of all of us. Covington, like Fox News and red meat, is media shorthand for evil. But it's not about lawsuits. It's about a lesson, one we could all learn in this age where contagious, deceptive social media is manipulated by the media. Fact is, the Covington story spread because the media wanted it to. It matched their assumptions.

To them, MAGA hat plus white kids equaled racism. It's a P.C. flash card. No one cared if it was false until others fought back. So maybe the letters recipients will consider what they did wrong and how their bias led to mob action. Maybe they'll embrace this teachable moment. Good thing the students at Covington are standing up to teach them.

Sandra, is this the right thing to do, these letters? Should they sue all of them, some of them?

SMITH: You got to do something.

GUTFELD: Yeah.

SMITH: But with all this -- and your wonderful producers provided us with all these, you know, these lawyers who have dug deep into whether -- where he could possibly get with these lawsuits. And it doesn't go far. Within the legal framework today with social media mobbing and --

GUTFELD: Yeah.

SMITH: -- it doesn't really fit. So, obviously, that's going to have to be looked at. But from a journalist standpoint, because he is taking on some of these media personalities --

GUTFELD: Right.

SMITH: -- certainly there needs to be some held responsible. I mean, to run with something before the entire video was even seen, and, of course, they put together their own edited version of this video. You Google his name, this will live on forever for Nick Sandmann. That does not go away.

GUTFELD: Yeah. Another Jesse Watters in the making. Juan, you are a journalist with a long pedigree. Do these -- does this kind of libel action worry you in the long run?

WILLIAMS: Well, I'm not sure what he's going after. I mean, the suggestion here is it goes beyond defamation, Greg. So he's looking at things like emotional distress. And obviously, he's had his life threatened but, of course, people on the other side have had their life threatened. So, I think the suggestion is that he has been maligned, and as Sandra was saying that his reputation has been damage to the point of emotional distress.

So I'm not sure I would buy that because, once again, it's not the case that the New York Times, Washington Post, MPR, HBO, all the celebrities created that document, the video that initially led to the misperception. I think that came from somewhere else. We're not even sure where. But I don't think that then reporting on what we see on social media and the response can be used as a basis for saying you're guilty and you owe this man some, you know, recompense. I just don't see it.

GUTFELD: Dana, could this be -- I love the phrase teachable moments. I think I've banned it. But could this be a teachable moment for the media? I think that they should meet every year. Call it the Kavanaugh symposium -- Covington, I'm sorry, Covington symposium.

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GUTFELD: Combine the two and discuss the flaw -- the mistakes that they've made.

PERINO: I think that it will be a teachable moment until the next teachable moment --

GUTFELD: True.

PERINO: -- which will probably be next week. Also, I think -- he's not -- he's not a person of notoriety. So, therefore, the standard in order to meet legally is lower. But I also think if I was the father -- the mom and dad, I would also be very mad at the school --

GUTFELD: Yeah.

PERINO: -- because the school initially went out along with the media and basically said that the boys were wrong, and it turns out that they hadn't done anything wrong. So I think I would be mad at them too.

GUTFELD: Yes, Jesse, again, an example of how the media expands their target of demonization to include everybody. If - he should be at the State of the Union.

WATTERS: That's true. Yes, Trump should bring in the great victim. I want to agree with Sandra. I believe that our producers are wonderful. And, although, I didn't read all the research that producers gave us, because I had the lawyer on Watters World a couple weeks ago - 8:00 p.m. Saturday night, Eastern, and this is what he told me about this.

He understands that there's such a high bar for slander and libel in this country, because you have to show malice and you have to show kind of an intentional and willing disregard for the truth. But he said, you know what, even if it doesn't succeed, it's worth it.

Because you have to set - draw a line in the sand and say, you cannot just callously inflict damage on minors on social media, so at the end, if they grind these guys to dust with legal fees that's good.

The thing is - about Twitter is that there's just - there's no ability to feel any empathy.

GUTFELD: Right.

WATTERS: It's invisible world out there, so you could just shoot at people and then turn your phone off and walk away.

GUTFELD: Yeah.

WATTERS: And it's almost like the O'Keefe situation where there's a huge double standard where O'Keefe would come out with his well-produced pieces that took months, and very elaborate, and everything was in order. And he put out in the media and say, "No, I don't see any context. I want to see the raw footage. We can't air this. We can't comment". But in this case of Covington, they took a very small slice of video from an anonymous person and that thing went viral and they just shook this earth to the core, and total double standard.

GUTFELD: I love that you are the - now the spokesperson for empathy. Jesse, you've come a long way.

WATTERS: You feel a little shame now, Greg.

GUTFELD: All right. Another migrant caravan confronted by Mexican police at the border ahead of tonight's State of the Union, that's next.

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PERINO: All right. We're a little more than 3 hours away from President Trump's State of the Union address where he is expected to make a big push for border security. This comes as Mexican authorities gathered to stop a caravan of nearly 2,000 migrants just South of Texas early this morning.

Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen in warning, "Illegal crossing into the United States will not be tolerated". After a contentious few months with Democrats will the President's speech before Congress be able to move the needle on this issue?

Let's bring in Martha MacCallum who is co-anchoring tonight's special coverage to preview the big event and we have Bret Baier as well which is a great thing, we have them both. Martha you were with the - at the White House earlier today, and can you tell us anything about the plans and talk about border security?

MARTHA MACCALLUM, HOST: Yes. I mean, in general, the lunch which is a tradition and is attended by some of the anchors who are covering the State of the Union address that night. By tradition it is off the record and this was it well.

But just in terms of the broad strokes, clearly the President is, I think, of a mind to hold pretty steady on where he has been on the wall. I don't think he is that optimistic about the conferees that are meeting. Although, there might be a little bit of movement on that.

I don't think that you're going to hear National Emergency declaration tonight. We're 10 days from the next potential shutdown, so I think there's room for negotiation during that period. But I think it's fair to say that the President is not at this point shying away from that option at all. And believes that in the end if he did declare that, that he would probably win the argument over it.

PERINO: We're going to take it around the table and the boxes and the squares that we have here, to ask you both questions. Jesse, whoever you'd like to ask a question to, they're here for you.

WATTERS: All right, Bret, I'm glad you could make it. The State of the Union--

BRET BAIER, HOST: The traffic is bad.

WATTERS: The State of the Union, usually when people consume it, the next day it's always about that viral moment, the faces that people are making, maybe the silly State of the Union response.

But recently it's been about the moment where the President's guest is announced. And the selection of guests is very important. This year they have family members of someone who was killed by an illegal immigrant. They have a human trafficking agent and they have a 6th grader with the last name Trump who was bullied.

So explain how you think this dynamics going to play out with the Democrats in the audience and the risks involved?

BAIER: Well, you make a good point, Jesse. I mean, in State of the Unions as of late, a lot of it is about storytelling, and about weaving in your guests stories to tell how some specific policy that either you're asking for or you've done has panned out.

So expect a lot of the border focus to be personal, to be about families who lost loved ones, because some illegal immigrant committed a murder or something along the border with a border patrol agent, specifically there.

As far as the child who's bullied, obviously you've seen a lot of coverage of that already with the last name Trump, and that is the First Lady's specific effort on cyberbullying. And a lot of people are pointing to the President and his use of Twitter and how he needles people time and time again to, whether that's a positive thing or not, and what message comes out of that.

PERINO: All right, Juan Williams, you're next to me. I don't know if you have air conditioning in your little box, but I do not, and it's so hot in here. But, one, you go for it next.

WILLIAMS: Well, I'm going to fan Dana and hope some of it gets to you. Martha, let's just talk politics - hardball politics for a second, a lot of talk about the divide within the Republican Party over the possible declaration of a National Emergency.

John Cornyn, number two in the Senate behind Mitch McConnell is saying, even if the President declares a National Emergency, it's not likely that the Senate will support him, if there's a resolution of opposition that comes out of the Democratic House and the courts aren't likely to do it. So he thinks this is not a winning hand for the President, what do you think?

MACCALLUM: Yes, I actually sat down with Mitch McConnell just a short time ago and he was - he believes that the President will still, if he's pushed to it, declare a National Emergency, that that's the option that's on the table.

But as you point, out John Cornyn have spoken out against it, so has Roy Blunt - Senator Blunt has also spoken out against, thinking that this is a bad precedent to set in terms of the National Emergency. But I think it's pretty clear that the President doesn't see it that way.

And that the President, in terms of this conferee committee, that's been talking about trying to find some kind of solution, the President said that he didn't put much stock in it. He said it was a waste of time if they don't come back to him with wall money.

So it looks like there's a rock in a hard place that's developed here Juan, and I think that the President - I don't think he'll do it tonight, as I said earlier, but I think he's holding out that option.

It does look like there are some Democrats who might be coming around on this and there's word that perhaps Mick Mulvaney might invite some of them to Camp David this weekend to talk. So I think there's a lot of moving parts, but nobody sees the end of the tunnel as of right now.

PERINO: All right, Sandra, what do you have?

SMITH: Bret, already ahead of the President's speech, he hasn't even delivered the address yet and a lot of Democrats are already coming out criticizing it. Top Democrat Chuck Schumer saying that, the state of the Trump administration is embroiled in chaos and incompetence.

We know that the Trump team is saying that he's going to attempt to put out a unifying message. Can the President unite the country with his message tonight?

BAIER: I think he's going to try to. He is going to reach out on a couple of different fronts. He's going to try to on policy, talk about infrastructure, prescription drug prices, potentially touch on successes in the past, the prison reform legislation - that was a bipartisan effort and say there's more possibly to come.

But I don't think that this speech is going to be the unifying moment, and as you saw the preamble to the speech, it was a lot of the same back and forth.

PERINO: Greg Gutfeld, I always save you for last on these roundups, what do you have?

GUTFELD: I was this just to Bret or Martha, do either of you have a question for me?

BAIER: Did you try the Queso?

MACCALLUM: What are you wearing to the State of the Union address, Greg? Everybody wants to know that?

GUTFELD: My footsie pajamas, because as you know I'll be going home and making food and opening a bottle of wine and--

MACCALLUM: And some Queso.

GUTFELD: - and I will fall asleep at 8:53.

BAIER: All right that sounds good.

PERINO: And, no, he didn't try it, but Jesse did and he said it was very good.

WATTERS: Um-hum

BAIER: And I would--

PERINO: All right, Bret and Martha, thank you for joining us. We will see you tonight.

MACCALLUM: You bet. Thanks guys.

BAIER: You bet.

PERINO: Up next a big price tag that comes along with Alexandria Ocasio- Cortez's "Green New Deal", stick around.

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WILLIAMS: New details emerging on the "Green New Deal" legislation being co-sponsored by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Critics attacking the reported $7 trillion price tag for that plan. The proposal calls for transforming the American economy with the goal of zero carbon emissions by 2030.

So is this really evidence of the Democrat-Socialist agenda? I think this is a set up for Jesse, so Jesse go right ahead.

WATTERS: I would say this. I'd say, we want about AOC, the woman is bold. She's extremely bold. It's almost the way in Greg has said, Trump is bold. We think about Donald Trump, you know, Muslim ban, confront China, sit down with Kim Jong-un. I think a lot of those bold moves have paid off.

But her plan, I believe, is even bold for socialism. She talks about a 10- year plan, that's like what the Soviet Union did, but she's just doubling it. $7 trillion, you can't even count that much money. The point is, it has to take an extremely arrogant person to think that they can totally remake American society in 10 years.

I want Americans to remake society. I don't want the green caucus to remake society, but it's going to be a fun debate.

WILLIAMS: Well, Dana, in fact, the Fox News poll has been point of controversy. Fox News poll show most Americans do support higher taxes, especially on those who make more than $10 million and support more government spending on healthcare. So how do we understand this? Is this Socialism or is this mainstream?

PERINO: OK. But that's not this Green New Deal. And I do think to Jesse's point, she is bold. But Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker, is wiser. So one of the things that happened when she announced this Green New Deal, when they finally roll it out, they want - initially when she first talked about it, they were going to end all fossil fuel use in 10 years.

The problem is not taxes. The problem is physics. We just don't have the technology to be able to do that yet. So what Nancy is doing is saying is say - she's giving them a little bit of room to run. We saw, again today, you've mentioned health care, Medicare for All. What is her Chief Advisor on Healthcare tell privately - tells companies, "Don't worry, we're really not going to do that, no problem".

Same thing on impeachment, she lets him run wild, talk about impeachment. In the meantime, she's like, yes, we're not doing that, that's not happening. So it's a good thing she has a big margin in her caucus, because she has some people that are going to always vote very far Left. She actually has been able to rein them in a little bit.

WILLIAMS: I think that's right. Now, Sandra the question is, what happens, though, with this energy and there's lots of energy, as I just indicated, that can be seen in the poll numbers for dealing with not only income inequality, but poverty, high cost of medical care, highest cost of prescription drugs in the country.

SMITH: Well that's the problem. She throws these ideas out there with a $7 trillion price tag and it's vague. There's not specifics on how she gets there. And then when you have researchers looking into it, who would otherwise, I think support someone like this. Tom Pyle Energy Research Institute, 100 percent renewable energy defies the law laws of physics according - to Dana's point it would be impossible to achieve.

Nancy Pelosi hasn't even signed on to this. I don't know where she can get with this. But she's got everybody listening - going back to Jesse's original point. She throws this stuff out there. It's bold ideas, but action is what everybody's waiting for.

WILLIAMS: So, Greg, Stacey Abrams who lost the gubernatorial race in George is delivering the after State of the Union Speech for the Democrats. What if they had Greg Gutfeld program, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, would that be a great show - would that be a great show?

GUTFELD: I think so. I think would be very exciting. What am I looking over here? It's easy to be a leftist. It's basically Santa Claus without the toy workshop. You don't really have to make anything.

I think the problem - you mentioned a lot of problems. But the only people that end up coming up with solutions are innovators, free-market people. I do think that when we have to deal with climate change, when we have to deal with it, we will deal with it, and it'll be innovators who figure out the cheap way to do it.

I mean, even if when you look at electric cars, what powers the electric car? Coal. So we have to be realistic. Physics wins. And only $7 trillion? That's a drop in the bucket for a socialist. They could take all our money in a heartbeat.

WILLIAMS: Oh, no, don't do that.

PERINO: This is the most I've ever talked about physics.

GUTFELD: Yes, good for you that Queso.

WILLIAMS: Oh, boy, here we go. Anyway "One More Thing" is coming straight at you, stay with "The Five".

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WATTERS: It's time now for "One More Thing", and Mr. Williams.

WILLIAMS: Thanks Jesse. So tonight's the big State of the Union address, we hope you're watching on Fox. But I got to tell you, I think, I gave an even bigger speech today. I spoke to my granddaughter's 1st grade class in Washington D.C. take a look at these photos.

My speech was about the power of storytelling - great stories, and especially their stories. And I also mentioned stories about the Civil Rights Movement, this being Black History Month. But most of the stories were about my times, my granddaughter's played tricks on me.

Then each of the kids told me a favorite story of their own from their families - frogs, rats and dogs played a big part in the stories they had to tell. So thank you so much to Wesley and Pepper for inviting Popup (ph) or grandad to visit their school. Thanks guys.

SMITH: I love that Juan.

WATTERS: Oh, that's such a cute visit. Excellent Juan. All right, Dana Perino.

PERINO: Do you know why they told those stories, Juan?

WILLIAMS: Why?

PERINO: Because animals are great.

SMITH: Yes.

PERINO: All right, President Trump invited a very special guest to the State of the Union, Matthew Charles. He was the first person released under the First Step Act. That was the bipartisan legislation for prison reform. He's a real shining example of somebody who's turned his life around and dedicated to helping others. Watch this.

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MATTHEW CHARLES, FIRST PERSON RELEASED FROM PRISON BY "FIRST STEP ACT": For those that have changed in their heart that do want to be role models to their children and grandchildren, do want to be able to come back out to society and say, "I made a mistake and I dare to repeat that mistake". I want to speak for those kind of guys.

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PERINO: And you can check out the whole video at twitter.com/dailybriefing. For State of the Union tonight, our special coverage starts at 9:00 p.m. Martha and Bret, they're going to anchor and then I'll be there with Juan, Laura Ingraham, Brit Hume and Chris Wallace, and - but I think we're going to have air conditioning in that room wherever we are.

GUTFELD: Oh, that's a good panel. Gigi (ph) and I'll be doing State of the Union coverage live from my apartment. Just stop by, look up at the window. I will be there in my bathrobe. Time for this "Where am I".

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GUTFELD: Robots are Great!

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GUTFELD: All right. This is fantastic. OK. As you know in some hotels, the hotel beds have more germs than Dana Perino's Queso. It's disgusting. I mean, anywhere Adam Levine stays, you got to bring one of these - it's a CleanseBot, a small travel robot that travels under the sheets and cleans the surfaces and disinfects it of germs and harmful bacteria.

This is another example of robots doing the work for you, making your lives a better place. You hit that button too fast buster and you're ticking me off.

WATTERS: All right. We all need one of those. New England Patriots celebrating their victory in the Super Bowl. Check out some footage of Gronk.

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WATTERS: This guy was on fire today at the parade. Anybody that was watching could not take their eyes off the New England tight end. This guy was living it up. He was chugging beers.

SMITH: Good time.

WATTERS: He was catching beers that were thrown at him. There he is with his shirt off. That's the real Adam Levine right there.

GUTFELD: He's the best.

WATTERS: That's how you do it Adam.

GUTFELD: He's the best.

WATTERS: That's how you do it.

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WATTERS: All right, Sandra Smith.

SMITH: All right. It's not Jesse, it's not Greg, it's not Juan, this is the free diver swimming underneath frozen ice lake, wearing a Speedo. Check this out.

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SMITH: The free diver in the Czech Republic taking a dip underneath clear ice on Lake Milda. Holy take a deep breath here. He cut a hole in the thick sheet of ice that covers the lake. He gracefully backstroke with his face up towards the ice.

Then face down on his - on his lap back. The brave soul behind the stunt - his named Peter Capone (ph), 54 years old. He credits his diet, strict workout regimen for the amazing feat. He emerged and said I'm OK.

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WATTERS: I'm cold, just look at that. All right. Set your DVRs. Never miss an episode of “The Five.”

"Special Report" is up next. Hey, Bret.

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