The far left attacking Ben Carson's faith

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O'REILLY: "Impact Segment" tonight, attacking Dr. Ben Carson. CBS News poll released yesterday has Dr. Carson at 21 percent in second place GOP sweepstakes behind Donald Trump who has 27 percent. Maybe that's why the far left continues to hammer the Doctor.


CHRIS MATTHEWS, MSNBC HOST: Why would someone running for president -- yes, sadly it's Ben Carson -- lay the blame on those young people out in Oregon who were just killed by a mass murderer. It's pathetic.

MAHER: He can separate conjoined twins but he can't separate fact from fiction.

He said I personally believe that this theory that Darwin came up with was something that was encouraged by the adversary -- the devil.

TREVOR NOAH, TV HOST: Ben Carson really thinks that he could rally people against a mass shooter. I think he is overestimating how inspiring his presence might be.


O'REILLY: And joining us now from Boynton Beach, Florida is Dr. Carson.

So there is something about you. I mean, Trump the far left feels is kind of a showman. They're kind of supercilious about him, arrogant about him. He's just not worthy. But you, there is something about you that really annoys the secular progressives. What is that?

CARSON: Well, I think it's the fact that I you simply won't submit to their nonsense and do things the way that they think they should be done. And I will not talk the way that they think I should talk and embrace the ideals that they think should be embraced. How dare someone like me actually think for themselves?

And, you know, it was interesting yesterday I was at a book signing in Tennessee and we were having a little press conference. One of the people said are the controversial things that you are saying hurting you? And I said well, first of all, they are only controversial to you, left-wing media because you take them out of context and you try to reinterpret them.

I said do you think they are controversial? Look around you. I said there's 2,000 people here coming to have their book signed. Do you think it's controversial to them? Obviously not. People are very enthusiastic.

And it's interesting that everybody comes up to me everywhere I go and they say please don't submit to those media people. Do not do it. You have to stand up for us.

O'REILLY: Do you think there is a color thing in play here at all?

CARSON: Well, I think in the sense that the left wing does have standard practice for black people and you are not supposed to wander away from that or you are an Uncle Tom, you're a traitor, you're all kinds of names that they call you. I find it rather amusing.

And I think a lot of Americans find it rather amusing too. They know they are going to do this. People have been saying this for months. They're going to come after you with everything they possibly can. They're going to be digging through everything. They're going to try to reinterpret everything.

They are like a fly that's been sprayed by Raid, you know, and they are on their back spinning around. They are desperate. But it's ok because we are just going to keep on with the truth.

O'REILLY: They don't like conservative black men and women because, you know, you are betraying the sensitivity I guess of the left that feels that you guys need help. We have to help you. We have a debt to African- Americans and all of that. And you preach self-reliance.

But the other thing is your faith. Are you really a creationist? Do you subscribe to Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden and that's where we came from?

CARSON: Well, I certainly believe that God is our creator. And interestingly enough, if you look at our founding document, the Declaration of Independence, it talks about certain inalienable rights given to us by our creator.

O'REILLY: Right. But that can be intelligent design and intelligent design leads to evolution. But there are some people, fundamentalist religious people who believe look Adam and Eve were there and that's what it says in Genesis and that's what happened. Where are you on that?

CARSON: Well, I think people are certainly allowed their private beliefs. I know a lot of people say that I believe that the earth is 6,000 years old and they have no basis for saying that. I don't know how old the earth is. It says in the beginning God created the heaven and earth. And then there is a period there. You don't know how much time elapsed.

But the other thing is people don't realize he is God. If he wanted to create an earth that was billions of years old he could do it. They can't do it. How come they are always trying to put themselves in the same category as God?


O'REILLY: Well, they are trying to diminish your intellect. That's what they try to do.

Final question -- you have a book out as you just mentioned. Do you want to mention the title of the book here?

CARSON: "A More Perfect Union" --


CARSON: -- because you know, most Americans know we have a constitution but they don't know what's in it and what's behind it. And it's there to protect their liberties and to limit the government.

O'REILLY: All right. So your book is pretty much explaining some history for the U.S.A. How you interpret the founding document. Do I have it? I haven't read it yet. I will get to it but I have got 15 books.

CARSON: You will love it. You'll love it Bill -- because it's the kind of thing you write about.

O'REILLY: I just want to briefly -- Carson and I we think a like in a lot of different ways. When you mentioned that you would have rushed the gunman -- I said yes, didn't they do that on 9/11 and the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania? Yes, they did.

CARSON: Exactly.

O'REILLY: When you mentioned that the Nazis seized guns, one of their first policies were to get guns off the street -- that's exactly true. The Warsaw ghetto showed that Jews in Warsaw who were armed could hold off the Nazis and if everybody had that then the Nazis would have had a lot more trouble doing what they did.

So there is a lot of things that you say that I understand and then I see a guy like Chris Matthews saying you are diminishing those people in Oregon. I know you would never do that. And I go is Matthews --

CARSON: Of course not.

O'REILLY: -- lying because he must know you enough to know you would never do that but he is really -- he's grandstanding to his crew.

CARSON: Of course he is.

O'REILLY: Right.

CARSON: That's what they do.

O'REILLY: That's what they do.

CARSON: People know that. I don't worry about it.

O'REILLY: Good luck with the book and you are welcome any time.

CARSON: Thank you.

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