President Trump heads to El Paso for first 2020 campaign rally and to push for border wall funding

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," February 11, 2019. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

JESSE WATTERS, CO-HOST: Hello, everybody. I'm Jesse Watters along with Morgan Ortagus, Juan Williams, Kennedy, and Greg. It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is "The Five."

The battle for 2020 is officially on as President Trump holds his first campaign rally in El Paso, Texas, tonight, the president taking aim at Democrat Beto O'Rourke for holding a counter rally in the city as he makes his big push for border security.


PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: We're going to El Paso. We have a line that is very long already. I mean, you see what's going on. And I understand our competitors got a line too, but it's a tiny little line. Of course, they'll make it sound like they had more people than we do. That's not going to happen. But we're going there for a reason. We're going there to keep our country safe.


WATTERS: This comes as the field of Democratic contenders gets even more crowded. Trump mocking Elizabeth Warren for the DNA debacle hanging over her campaign announcement, the president also poking fun at Senator Amy Klobuchar for announcing her candidacy in a snowstorm. Warren firing back against the president's ancestry attacks.


SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN, D-MASS.: By the time we get to 2020, Donald Trump may not even be president.


WARREN: In fact, he may not even be a free person.


WATTERS: And Klobuchar addressing reports she can't find a campaign manager because she's difficult to work for.


SEN. AMY KLOBUCHAR, D-MINN.: I am tough. I push people. That is true. But my point is that I have high expectations for myself. I have high expectations for the people that work for me, and I have high expectations for this country.


WATTERS: And Kamala Harris also making some headlines today for this comment.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you ever smoked?



HARRIS: And I inhaled. I did inhale.


HARRIS: It was a long time ago.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was at a blunt or joint?

HARRIS: It was a joint.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So if it was legalized all throughout the country in medicinal, would you, you know, do it?

HARRIS: Listen, I think that it gives a lot of people joy and we need more joy.



WATTERS: All right, Greg, we'll get to that in a second. But you and Amy Klobuchar have a lot in common, very difficult to work for.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Exactly. I like her more and more the more I hear about her because she's got the funniest name to say, Klobuchar. You've got 24 hours, Klobuchar, to find the missing kids or you're fired.

Anyway, she's got like a 1970's cop show name. Can I just talk about -- and also, it's not sexist to point out that she's got a bad temper. They did that with John McCain, and they did it with Bob Dole, and they do it with Trump. So it ain't sexist. In fact, it's sexist not to do it. Do you have tape of Liz with the kid?

WATTERS: Oh, yes. This is Elizabeth and one of her announcements this weekend.

GUTFELD: Get over here, kid. So, here -- this is -- here's the problem with Liz Warren.


GUTFELD: Here's the problem with Liz Warren, she's like a professional wrestler who over acts in each scene and then instructs you to believe in the sport no matter what. She is a politician who pretends to be a politician wherever she goes and it's so fake.

And especially in the era of Trump where he rejected all of that -- all of the trimmings of being a politician, he didn't care. It exposes her folly even more as a world-class phony. She's a professional wrestler and you see all the tricks. Grab this kid. And then saying, like, you know, what did she just say? He won't be a free person.


GUTFELD: Just say free man.


GUTFELD: Save a syllable.

WATTERS: Klobuchar, and we also have Kamala Harris admitting to smoking weed. What do you think?

KENNEDY, CO-HOST: I think it makes her a total hypocrite. I think now, conveniently, she's one of those people who's hopped on board the cannabis caravan.

But in reality, people in her state of California have suffered under some of her punitive actions as attorney general. And she even cackled a few years ago when asked about legalization of cannabis in the great state of California. This is someone who has not supported legalization.

WATTERS: Oh, she locked up --

KENNEDY: Yeah, she has locked up a bunch of nonviolent offenders and has not lobbied for their release when she absolutely could have. She misused her power. She was horrible on civil rights. And right now, it's just a popularity grab. But who wouldn't cackle with affection, my friend Charlemagne. I thought he was adorable in that clip.

WATTERS: Yeah, Juan, you have another reason to vote for Kamala. She smokes grass.

JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST: I think the whole state of California has a reason to vote for her. That's why I think they legalize that. I was telling you guys I was in San Francisco --

KENNEDY: In spite of her, not because of her, in spite of her.

WILLIAMS: No, I think -- look, I don't -- by the way, I don't think that was a fair thing that you've said, Kennedy, because, guess what, people --

KENNEDY: I know facts are inconvenient. Facts not feelings.

WILLIAMS: Hang on, please. Enforce the law, that was her job as officer for the State of California. Her job was to enforce the law, not to make it up. And she did it, she enforce the law.

KENNEDY: She did. She selectively enforced laws --


KENNEDY: -- and was horrible on civil --


WILLIAMS: -- selling or using it, I mean, that's the law. She enforced it. But I would say the people who go after her on charges of selective prosecution are way off on this. It's almost to me, and this comes from the left more than the right, they're saying because you're a good prosecutor you can't be a Democrat. How crazy is that?

KENNEDY: Well, don't call yourself a progressive prosecutor if your record shows a complete opposite.

WILLIAMS: I just think she was a very good prosecutor. And I think -- well, anyway, I will leave that up to you. But I will say I think the news today is about Trump in El Paso because our own brain room that you like to cite, Jesse, has said violent crime wasn't higher before the wall in El Paso and --

WATTERS: So glad you brought that up, Juan, because --


WILLIAMS: I wanted to bring this up because it is such a sham.

WATTERS: No, it's not. Here it is. Here are the facts, Juan.

WILLIAMS: Yes, you go right ahead.

WATTERS: All right. In 2009 when the wall was erected in El Paso, oh, 3,300 violent crimes reported. Last available year, statistics were out, 2016, about 2,600 violent crimes reported. That's about a 20 percent drop in violent crime since the wall has been erected in El Paso.


WATTERS: Juan, I'm sorry. Not only do you disagree with me. You're disagreeing with the brain room.

WILLIAMS: This is why I mentioned it because you had played this farcical game before, and so I went to the brain room they said from 6 to 11, '06 to 2011, violent crime went up 17 percent --

WATTERS: Why cherry pick it, Juan.

WILLIAMS: I'm not cherry picking. This is what --

WATTERS: Juan, there was no wall in 2006. That's when the money was appropriated, so why stop it at 2011?

WILLIAMS: You can go all the way. You can go all the way.

WATTERS: I did. I went to all the way from when the wall went up until the last available year and crime went down --


WATTERS: Please save Juan from his ridiculous false statements.

WILLIAMS: -- you're wrong and you're trying to fool the audience. But the clear fact is Beto O'Rourke --

WATTERS: You're wrong, Juan.

WILLIAMS: No, the Beto O'Rourke, the sheriff in El Paso, the mayor in El Paso says this town had a low crime rate before and after this phony wall.

WATTERS: I'll put the stats on my twitter feed and everybody can see the truth. Go ahead, Morgan.

MORGAN ORTAGUS, CO-HOST: We're definitely going to solve this argument today, so I'm so glad we're having it. What's interesting to me is that we had more women announce over the weekend, and what we haven't had in the presidential -- I think we have at least five so far that are running.

What's happened both on the Democrat side and the Republican side is there's always been one woman on stage. And there have been all of these rules about -- and the senatorial race and presidential races is about how do you approach the one woman on the stage. And now that we have four or five on the stage, it will be interesting to see how the Democrats play that out. How they argue with each other.

And so, I actually think it's a really -- it's going to be a really interesting election to see the interaction, especially between the women. Can we just preempt this sort of like catfight narrative that People Magazine and Us Weekly and all these things will put out, these women are going to battle, they're going to be really tough because they're politicians and they want to be the president. And --

WATTERS: And Klobuchar is going to be really tough.

KENNEDY: Can I just say one thing about Klobuchar.


KENNEDY: I was actually intrigued hearing that she's tough on her staff. I didn't take that as a negative at all.

GUTFELD: You're known for being very tough.

KENNEDY: Very tough.

GUTFELD: Yes, very tough.


KENNEDY: I'm practically a dominatrix --

WATTERS: Yeah, exactly.

KENNEDY: People pay me for my services.

GUTFELD: You know, the one thing about this whole thing that is so beautiful and why this is going to be the best two years ever, not only do we have a field of Democrat candidates, we have ongoing director's commentary from Donald Trump. This has never happened before.

We're going to have a president who is going to do ongoing commentary about everybody. And his media presence is so huge that by comparison, they will seem so small. He'll be Darth Vader. They'll be Ewoks. They'll be Gladys Knight. They'll be the pips.

WILLIAMS: But that's not the way it played out over the weekend when he went over after Klobuchar as snowman or he says snowwoman. She shot back. Oh, I want to see you stand out in the rain with your hair. I think you dodged --

GUTFELD: I don't know if she said that.

WILLIAMS: No, but she said in response in her tweet that he is the one with the sensitive hair. But you know what I think, if he goes after those women, I think they fire back and I don't think that he comes out --

GUTFELD: I think it's a joke to say -- he goes after everybody. I think we learned that in 2016.

WATTERS: He went after John McCain pretty hard. All right, up next, a radical new Democratic congresswoman sparking bipartisan firestorm for her latest anti-Semitic comments.


ORTAGUS: A radical freshman member of Congress forced to apologize after bipartisan backlash over her anti-Semitic comments. Minnesota Congressman Ilhan Omar under fire, including from top leaders of her own party over a new round of controversial tweets, Omar accused a prominent group, the American-Israel public affairs committee, of paying members of Congress to support Israel.

The freshman lawmaker released a statement saying that she, quote, unequivocally apologizes, but then went on to call a (INAUDIBLE) lobby, quote, "problematic."

We have seen a lot happened today, Kennedy. Last night, Chelsea Clinton was the only prominent Democrat to come out today -- today we did see Pelosi issue a statement. Other Democrats issued statement condemning these remarks.

And of course, she apologized. My question is she sits on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, is this enough? Should she be on that committee or does the apology and the condemnation is that just put a pretty little bow on it?

KENNEDY: No, I think all bets are off. It depends. If this is a political ally and you have to defend her behavior, but I don't think it's OK. I don't think it's OK what Ralph Northam did. I don't think it's OK in this situation. I don't appreciate people not understanding the racist roots of the thing that they mock and not fully grasping it.

So, I don't appreciate her being an anti-Semite. And I think antisemitism is a huge problem right. It's something that is really being, sort of, swept under the carpet by the left and, you know, there are people within the movement who have said pretty atrocious things and, you know, dehumanized Jewish people as a whole.

And I think when we start to get into that territory because -- if you take something that a Republican or another person you disagree with out of context and say this is racist, then you have to apply the same metric. And if we do that from everyone and have the exact same purity metric, it's going to be very difficult.

ORTAGUS: Juan, so Kennedy brings up good points. There's actually a piece by Bret Stevens in the New York Times called the progressive assault on Israel, and I challenge everyone to read it. And Bret went through a piece by piece at a LGBTQ task force conference where they were chanting, from the river to the sea, which many people knows means, you know, no state of Israel.

He went through how Booker, Warren, Harris, all tried to block anti-BDS legislation in the Senate, and I thought it was a pretty convincing case. And I know that we've talked about this quite a bit on THE FIVE where you see anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism that has taken root in somewhat mainstream policies on the left. Do you agree with that or where do you think your party stance on Israel?

WILLIAMS: Oh, I think the party is very supportive of Israel, there's no question about that. I think what's going on here is you have people who are -- in the case of Representative Tlaib from Michigan, but also Omar from Minnesota, you have people who are coming in who for the first time are giving voice to people who oppose Israel's policy with regard to Palestinian. I think Tlaib is the first Palestinian woman, someone with Palestinian heritage to be elected to the Congress. And so --

ORTAGUS: The first woman. I think there's been other men.

WILLIAMS: OK. And so the point is here that from their perspective, they are trying to criticize Israeli policy and U.S. support for Israeli policies.

ORTAGUS: So you don't think --


WILLIAMS: What she said was offensive because then she played into the whole meme about Jewish people having money that influences politicians, and that's what she apologized for. But I think you have lots of people, including Kevin McCarthy, now the minority leader in the House who or jumping on this because they see this as a way to potentially divide Democrats. I hope it's not the case. And I think it's evidence that -- of good faith that you have people like Pelosi saying what this congresswoman did was wrong.

ORTAGUS: What do you think, Jesse? Is it political?

WATTERS: Yeah, of course, everything is political. I think Pelosi is that one with the problem. If you think about it she had, you know, freshman female come in trafficking anti-Semitism. Freshman female come in and say impeach the M and F'er.

And then another freshman female come in and unveil a green new deal which is basically a joke Republicans are now going run against. And if you also look someone didn't even see this headline, Maxine Waters hit with three new ethics violations and she's supposed to be running House Financial Services. Pelosi has come in and done what? Besides shut the government down? Not much.

ORTAGUS: Well, everything if you ask Hillary Clinton.

WATTERS: Right. I mean, listen, I don't think Pelosi has got a great track record here and this Omar person is just not ready for prime time. She's not polished enough. She's accused someone of blackmailing sexually a senator. She said horrible things about the Covington boys and she's about to get sued for that. And she's called Israel evil, so she's a big problem.

ORTAGUS: Greg, to Jesse's point though, Jewish leaders in her district did sit her down and talk to her about this. She's apparently had a lot of counseling, yet she still tweets these anti-Semitic things.

GUTFELD: Well, I'm always, as I say, somebody apologize, I accept the apology, so I accept the apology. The tweet about the Benjamins was a problem not for the actual -- just the tweet, but it was in the context of things when you described Jews as hypnotic conspirators. That's kind of a bigger issue than the Benjamins thing.

The bottom line is there's a lot of countries in the Middle East and one isn't Muslim and that's the one she doesn't like. So we have to ask ourselves, is this a form of bigotry? I think she apologizes, so that's a step. But you know who tweeted support for her? David Duke. So if I were to do what a liberal does and employed guilt by association, the Democrats are now the party of Sarsour, Farrakhan, Omar, and Duke.

ORTAGUS: Well, that takes effort. OK.

GUTFELD: Really, that's pretty easy. I just did it.

ORTAGUS: Virginia Governor Ralph Northam doubles down and refuses to resign. Up next, the bizarre interview he gave to make his case.


WILLIAMS: The political crisis in Virginia continuing. Governor Ralph Northam however says he's not going anywhere. The embattled Democrat who is resisting calls to step down over a racist yearbook photo says he believe he can help his state heal.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What have you learned that you didn't know before?

GOV. RALPH NORTHAM, D-VA.: Well, several things. Starting with I was born in white privilege and that has implications to it. I've also learned why the use of blackface is so offensive. I have thought about resigning but I've also thought about what Virginia needs right now. Right now, Virginia needs someone that can heal. There's no better person to do that than a doctor.


WILLIAMS: Northam also addressing why he walked back his initial apology.


NORTHAM: I definitely overreacted. And, again --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But why did you do that?

NORTHAM: Well, when you're in a state of shock like I was, we don't always think as clearly as we should. As I've said, I know it's not me in the clan outfit and I started looking in the picture of the individual with blackface and I said that's not me either.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Were you thinking about showing off your moonwalking skills?

NORTHAM: No, because I don't have those at age 59. But I will tell you, Gayle, I regret that. This is a serious moment.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's very serious.

NORTHAM: Whether it was a nervous laugh or whatever, it was inappropriate.


WILLIAMS: Meanwhile, a Virginia lawmakers plan to impeach Lieutenant Governor Justin Fairfax now on hold. This comes after a second woman came forward to accuse Fairfax of sexual assault. Fairfax is now calling on the FBI to investigate both of the claims being made against him. Kennedy, I saw you saying you don't believe the governor.

KENNEDY: I don't believe the governor when he says, you know -- he's trying to excuse it using a term that Greg appropriately calls virtue signaling. And all he's trying to do is take a, you know, fantastical phrase from the left and apply it here like a band aid, and I think there's much more beneath the surface.

And I applaud Gayle King for trying to get to the truth of his motivation. I think Northam looks at Brett Kavanaugh, and even the president, who are much more unapologetic than politicians were -- you know, maybe three years ago, and certainly some in the current climate like Al Franken who must be looking at all this and saying I wish I had just stuck around because if you're the last man standing you get to keep your job.

I think he's also looking at Justin Fairfax. And, you know, when you weigh these two cases, the charges against Fairfax are incredibly serious and damning. He's had even more staffers quit over the episode which has now been compounded by a second accuser coming forward and saying that he sexually assaulted yet another woman.

WILLIAMS: So, Jesse, Kennedy doesn't buy this white privilege business. He said he's 59 years old. Obviously, grew up on the eastern shore of Virginia. I wonder what you think.

WATTERS: Well, I thought she blew the interview. It was soft. It was a rehab interview. Why didn't she ask him, if it wasn't you, why did you put the picture on your yearbook page? I mean, it's an easy question. I don't know why she didn't ask that.

KENNEDY: It's hard.

WATTERS: Yeah, I'll call Gayle --

GUTFELD: Do you guys still talk?

WATTERS: Yeah, not as much as we used to.


WATTERS: There was an interesting poll that showed black Virginians were more willing to forgive than white Virginians. And I thought why don't we have a man on the street person to go down to Virginia and ask these questions? I can't think of a better person to go. But --

WILLIAMS: You mean you.

WATTERS: Why would you say that, Juan?

WILLIAMS: You're the man on the street.

WATTERS: I know.

GUTFELD: We're not paying for your vacation.

WATTERS: Someone should go down to Virginia and ask people what they think.

WILLIAMS: Oh, my goodness.

GUTFELD: But in the summertime.


WATTERS: Yeah, when the --


WATTERS: -- in D.C. Here's what the Democrats have done though, they have given the biggest political gift to Republicans. They have doubled down on a double blackface scandal and a double sexual assault allegation scandal. So now any time anything happens, Republicans get two get-out-of-jail-free cards, and any Republican commentator gets two talking points.

WILLIAMS: Wow. This was all about you.

WATTERS: No, but usually it is. But in all seriousness, Juan, you guys are killing yourselves with this thing.

WILLIAMS: All right, OK. So, Morgan, what about Fairfax?


WILLIAMS: So you now have his staff, as Kennedy was saying, apparently leaving in large numbers, I think he's left with two people. And over the weekend, he's saying just give me my due process, which I think was the last thing we heard from Kavanagh.

ORTAGUS: Well, I agree with him and I think this is one of the tragedies of politicizing Me Too. And that whole movement that started as speaking, you know, with men who are in power and using that power over women. It was this movement that had nothing to do with politics.

It got politicized during Kavanaugh, and the problem is that we never finished having the national conversation about how do you hear women and believe their stories, but at the same time give the guys the due process they deserve or, you know, turn around it could be either gender. And I think that's a big tragedy of all of this is you either zero-tolerance or you're not. And what is the fair process for giving someone, you know, the benefit of the doubt, of giving them due process?

I would say the other reason why this has been just a catastrophe, the way it's been handled in Virginia is because of the top three and there's an election in November. And Republicans hold at least one or two seats in both the House and the Senate majority. It's going to be a contentious election. If it wasn't election and wasn't all three top policy makers, you would probably see a bit of a different reaction.

WILLIAMS: And you also know Fairfax. How does this play into it?

ORTAGUS: I think if this happens to a lot of us who people who knew Kavanaugh and those of us -- my husband and I know Justin, and you see someone who's in the public light and something happens to them, and it's so different from the person that you've known. And that's why it doesn't matter if you're a Republican or if you're a Democrat, or whatever your political philosophy is.

There is racism, sexism in America and around the world. And when you politicize this stuff, when you politicize Kavanaugh in order not to get a Supreme Court, it just ends up hurting everybody in the process.

KENNEDY: And that's why Republicans warn Democrats about.

WILLIAMS,: OK. So, let me go to our poll expert.

GUTFELD: Yes. Thank you, Juan.

WILLIAMS: Because I think you have some very interesting numbers to share.

GUTFELD: I don't have any numbers. How dare you set me up like that.

WILLIAMS: Oh! My God. You set me up.

GUTFELD: I want to say. I have a theory and I want to ask you here, but first, the definition of a hack is somebody who demands due process for the person on their side but doesn't demand it for the person on the other side. So, if you were demanding due process for Kavanaugh, you owe it to Fairfax as well. I think that's - I think the governor. You can't tell whether he's digging in or digging his own grave. It's hard to tell. He said that being a doctor, he can bring Virginia to the next level, is the next level Grand Wizard, because I don't know he's two parts stupid and one part dumb.

Anyway, so here's my theory.

WILLIAMS: Yes, yes.

GUTFELD: So, the higher - what Jesse brought up. The higher percentage of blacks favor him staying in over a percentage of whites. So, why is that? Is it because whites have to virtue signal in public and say, he's got to resign, but blacks don't? Do you follow me?

WILLIAMS: Yes, I've got you.


WILLIAMS: But what I think is in fact that black people having lived through the history of racism in this country will say, you know what, it's possible to forgive and guess what his record as governor is actually pretty good on that.

GUTFELD: I find that interesting. I find that the forgiveness is higher. I think people can learn from that.

WILLIAMS: I think it's true. I just don't know if it's good Greg, because I think sometimes people you know it's like a child who gets abused or whatever, you're always saying you know my parents really are good people and it's going to be all right. What are you going to say?

WATTERS: Yes. But you also mentioned his policies, they might be looking at his policies too.

WILLIAMS: Yes, I agree. I think they are looking at his policy. All right. A new bombshell in the heated battle between billionaire Jeff Bezos and the National Enquirer. You've got to see this stuff and you can only see it here on "The Five," next.


WATTERS: What did he say?

ORTAGUS: Breakdown. National Enquirer firing back against allegations of blackmail and extortion. From Amazon billionaire Jeff Bezos, this comes after the Amazon founder claim the magazine threatened to publish explicit photos of him and his mistress. If he didn't stop investigating, have the tabloid got his private text messages. The attorney for Enquirer's CEO saying, they did nothing wrong.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It absolutely is not extortion and not blackmail. What happened was that the story was given to the National Enquirer by a reliable source that had given information to the National Enquirer for seven years prior to this story. It was a source that was well-known to both Mr. Bezos and Mr. Sanchez.


ORTAGUS: Oh! the Enquirer also wanted Bezos to publicly say that its reporting was not politically motivated. Now meanwhile, a bombshell new report says the anonymous source of the leaked texts and pictures to the tabloid is in fact Michael Santos, the brother of Bezos girlfriend Lauren Sanchez. So, Greg what stands out to you most in this story.

GUTFELD: It's a dirty Sanchez.

ORTAGUS: You have to pick a side here. You're either Team Bezos or pro Pecker. David Pecker is the CEO --

GUTFELD: This is a difficult story for an infantile humorist like myself in which every avenue gives an opportunity. The guy's name is Sanchez. The other guy's name is Pecker and I've got to be serious. All right. I sympathize with Bezos, because I like anybody who stands up to any kind of extortion or blackmail. I thought that what Peter Teal did with Gawker was important. I thought what Trump did to the Daily Telegraph was important. So, any time that you feel that something is happening and he's a billionaire, so he can withstand it. Other people like us can't. Jesse.

ORTAGUS: No, it's true. So, do you think ...

WATTERS: Well, Greg I would just like to say that I think the National Enquirer is a sterling publication.

GUTFELD: They do have pictures, Jesse, I know they do.

WATTERS: They have been right about O.J. and about Jesse Jackson and about Tiger Woods.

ORTAGUS: John Edwards.

WATTERS: About John Edwards.

GUTFELD: They have been around for 40 years.

WATTERS: All in the magazine, it's all wrong. If I'm ever in the magazine, they're all wrong. I will say this though - I will say this, I usually think when there is a humiliating salacious scandal that that person had it coming, and they deserve it. Except if it's about me or one of the people that I like, then it was a smear job.

I also think that men will do really dumb things when beautiful women are involved. Even billionaires. So, if Russia were smart, they would stop trying to interfere in the election. They would just send 10,000 of their most adorable women to Washington.

KENNEDY: I think they've done that.

WATTERS: Just wreak havoc all over D.C. and that would probably sink us. ORTAGUS: Have you ever seen the Russian women who've been indicted and questioned. So, Juan, this happens with greater regularity than we know about. Doesn't it? I mean how often our powerful people and famous people blackmailed, so their dirty laundry doesn't appear on the pages of The National Enquirer. How often are they catching and killing stories for cold heart ...

WILLIAMS: Ask Donald Trump and Michael Cohen. I think they have some stories to tell. But the fact is that ...

ORTAGUS: So, was this blackmail and extortion?


ORTAGUS: Was this blackmail and extortion is Bezos' claims.

WILLIAMS: I think it's pretty clear line. Bezos in fact connects the dots. He says that they wanted him to issue a statement saying that there was no political motivation to the initial story. And then when he was slow to respond, they then say, if you don't do it, here are these nasty pictures, you know some of them very scurrilous, awful pictures that we're going to release. Well what ...

ORTAGUS: That depends on the eye of the beholder.

WILLIAMS: I'm sorry.

ORTAGUS: Nothing.


ORTAGUS: No, it depends who's looking at them, who might say, they're scurrilous or untoward.

WILLIAMS: I don't think ...

ORTAGUS: Others might call it art.

WILLIAMS: Yes, but I don't think you or me would want those pictures in the public, in the public domain. And so, it was intended to embarrass the richest man and the owner of The Washington Post. And I might say this also that when you hear from Bezos' side, he thinks this is highly political.

He thinks the Saudi Arabians may have been involved. He thinks according to some of the reporting that the National Security Agency under the Trump may have been involved in securing those. Now that you just heard the lawyer say not so that it came from someone who I suspect as you point out was the brother.

ORTAGUS: But - and Michael Sanchez like his whole involvement in this thing is so strange and you haven't heard any denials from him and the lawyer for AMI is saying, oh! no, this guy has been given this stuff for years. So finally, Jeff Bezos stands up and he's like, I've got billions of dollars and I've got a newspaper.

KENNEDY: Every time there is like some sort of wild conspiracy theory, it's generally the easier thing, the easier story that comes to play. I mean he seems to have really picked a winner here. I mean her family, her brother, that's pretty nasty. Although, I do have a little pet peeve on this whole story, and it happens every time one of these breaks. What is the name for a man who cheats on his wife? What's the name? What do you call him? When a woman cheats, she's always called the mistress. You know what I'm saying. And so, they're always and so they're labeling her, and he's done it together and so, I don't know it's just my own pet peeve.

ORTAGUS: Should he be able to do that here.

KENNEDY: Yes, or something, right.

GUTFELD: Mister stress.

ORTAGUS: Why shouldn't he have the same treatment.

KENNEDY: Yes. You know why, because the world is a horrible place and we should all go back to bed and take a nap. Just watch Fox News and Fox Business weeknights at 9 PM Eastern, 6 in the West. President Trump. Ripping the latest White House leak and how close they are to finding out who's behind it. That's next.


GUTFELD: The media is freaking out yet again over their new favorite phrase, Executive Time. Wonder what that means. After another anonymous leak of the President's schedule, the Trump administration is trying to find out who is responsible for these leaks.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And how close you are to finding who did it? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm hoping to have a resolution on that this week. When I find that person or persons and it's likely going to be a career staffer, you're going to learn a lot about how hard it is to fire federal workers. (END VIDEO CLIP)

GUTFELD: Meanwhile, Mr. Bozo face aka. Joe Scarborough is trashing Trump after he tweeted quote no President ever worked harder than me. Watch this.





UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He spent the majority of his time watching cable news and tweeting, yelling, staring at TV sets like an old man that is in a retirement home instead of a President of the United States.


GUTFELD: And you helped elect him. His commentary is almost as good as his music. Juan in the break you said, people who leak about the greatest ...

WATTERS: That was the monologue?

GUTFELD: No monologue today. I had a doctor's appointment Jesse.

WATTERS: OK, I'm just wondering.

GUTFELD: Do you want to know what for.



GUTFELD: Go to my blog. Greg's intestines from more information. Juan in the break you said, people who leak against President Trump, the greatest President of our lifetime should be executed. That's what you said. WILLIAMS: That's right. You believe it. No, I didn't say that. But I must say, what's curious to me about this was if you actually look at the document, nobody says this is bogus. This is not true. It's true that last week, four days last week, he spent half his time in executive time.

GUTFELD: But why is it the ugly truth is that most jobs, half of it is nonsense. We essentially work in spurts, right and then you stop, and you do things, you go, you text your friends, you go have coffee, you pop a painkiller. That was just me. Anyway, Kennedy, the truth is, he's like us, half our day is executive time.

KENNEDY: Well, you can see it. It's like forcing some people into college who don't want to sit around in musty classrooms and listening to a TA lecture about socialism. There are some people who need unstructured time in order to be productive. I don't necessarily like all the things that the President says and tweets, but I don't have a problem with this because just because there are unnamed blocks of time and just because he doesn't follow the exact same protocol as every other President, I don't think that's necessarily harmful, because he's still doing something. So, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt there.

I think the proof is in the pudding when he reacts to other people in the media when it's sort of needless. And he keeps stories going when there would be much better off dying.

WILLIAMS: It'd be nice if he read his intelligence brief.

KENNEDY: Well, we heard that earlier on, but then we've also heard the opposite from people within the administration that he amended that, and I think that was a source of concern for him that the people thought that he was careless. He was a bit careless whisper.

WATTERS: Morgan you know what I love about this is the same people that are complaining about what Trump does are now complaining that he doesn't do enough.

ORTAGUS: Yes. What do they want him doing? Executive time that he when you want him pursuing more policy.

WILLIAMS: No, I like him to prepare and do the job. That's a lot, now you ask a guy to do the job, if this was Obama, I can hear you.

ORTAGUS: I mean let's go through the record on the economy and tax cuts and we can go through a list of things that he'll be saying tonight I'm sure in his speech and his rally about the number of things that he's gotten done.

I will say that the leaking thing does bother me as a national security person, because one, at some point it's just the President's schedule and you think that's nothing, but then it's a conversation with another head of state and then it's more classified material. That's something that they've really you know gotten taken care of over the last couple of years. But I don't like it when I have.

GUTFELD: Jesse, how do you deal with leaks in your administration.

ORTAGUS: Depends.

WATTERS: I just want to take a moment of silence for the monologue. Everybody just gives me a moment.

GUTFELD: You're still mad that they didn't do a monologue.

WATTERS: What happened to the monologue.

GUTFELD: I had to go see ...

WATTERS: I come in here expecting a monologue. The audience expects the monologue. And we all get a monologue.

GUTFELD: I had to go see Dr. Siegel this morning.

WILLIAMS: Oh! No. Are you OK?

WATTERS: Are you OK?

GUTFELD: I'm fine. I think I pulled a muscle.

WATTERS: It was a lot of executive time. How long was the appointment?

GUTFELD: It was a couple hour.

WATTERS: Couple hours. Was it a surgery?


WILLIAMS: I think it was Trump's doctor. That's why you've got the ...

GUTFELD: He said I was in fantastic health.


ORTAGUS: Best health ever and if I host ever.


GUTFELD: Yes. So, I noticed you don't have an opinion on this, Jesse.

WATTERS: Listen, he's getting a lot done Greg and they'll never find the leaker.

ORTAGUS: What do you think - I think what people are trying to comprehend is what he does at the executive time.

WATTERS: You know what he does? He watches Fox and CNN and MSNBC and then he'll tweet about it and then everybody will get great ratings. And besides that, he's doing interviews and he's having meetings.

ORTAGUS: I think he takes a lot of meetings and phone calls during that time.

WATTERS: He is doing a lot of phone calls.

GUTFELD: A lot of people don't understand what a CEO does.


GUTFELD: And a CEO doesn't do a normal workday. He walks in. He does - he's on the phone, he does stuff. That's what he does.

WATTERS: And if you read almost every single book about the Presidency, during this executive time there is hundreds of people coming in to see him and speak to him.


WATTERS: And compete for his attention.

WILLIAMS: They're going up to the private headquarters, you are so wrong. I'm just delighted.

WATTERS: He's taking phone call and he is working.

GUTFELD: He reads Jesse's tweet.

ORTAGUS: I will say this, I mean, and it boils down maybe to process and maybe his process is talking about things and talking about the same things ...

WILLIAMS: With his friends while watching TV.

WATTERS: Whatever he's doing, it's working. Let's put it that way.

KENNEDY: Administration.

GUTFELD: All right. One More Thing is up next.


WATTERS: Time now for One More Thing. Juan.

WILLIAMS: You never know where you're going to find a miracle on ice. How about someone saving your life when you have a heart attack while playing ice hockey. Take a look. Gibb Streak had a heart attack on a North Carolina ice rink. He was saved by a fellow hockey player that night, Dr. Craig Bryant.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is my guardian angel. Whether he wants it or not.


WILLIAMS: As a reward, Streak gave the doc a signed Wayne Gretzky Jersey, good deeds do have their rewards.

WATTERS: Very nice. All right. Now it's time for. My Unsolved Mystery. On this episode of My Unsolved Mysteries, we have ourselves a Bigfoot sighting.


WATTERS: Check this out. Some hunters in Provo, Utah spotted a sasquatch. This is your mystery. You can take that to the bank. That is literally Big Foot.

GUTFELD: I see a big round circle.

WATTERS: That is not a bear. That is not a person. That is a sasquatch. We are now breaking this on THE FIVE on Jessie's Unsolved Mystery.

GUTFELD: Wow, that's amazing.

WATTERS: Greg, that is not fake news.

GUTFELD: It is not at all.

WILLIAMS: This is impressive. The twilight.

GUTFELD: Wait you see this. Time for. Greg's float news. That's me as a float. It's kind of creepy isn't it. All right sometimes it takes other countries to really appreciate what we have here in America. Let's go to Italy shall we. Where they have - this is at the Annual Viareggio Carnivale a parade. Did I say that correct? Which began in 1873. Anyway, that's Donald Trump. The float is titled "The Master Drone" created by Fabrizio Ghali and it emulates the dominant character of Warhammer 40000, don't know exactly what I'm saying right now. I'm just reading off of a sheet of fax. But Trump represents the dominant male par excellence. I just think it's a fantastic float and actually be ...

ORTAGUS: I think I like it.

WATTERS: Is it true that Trump has contacted Italy and wants it for the military parade?

GUTFELD: I think that would be a great idea. Why are we showing what it is? There it is. Isn't that fantastic. Juan you want one of these in your backyard.

WILLIAMS: He looks scary there. That's not exactly flattering.

GUTFELD: You know that should be tethered to Mount Rushmore. There's an idea.

WATTERS: Yes. Kennedy.

KENNEDY: You know that I'm a big fan of Lesser and greater primates (ph) and in Belfast, Ireland and Northern Ireland rather at the Belfast zoo, there were some storms that weakened trees by the chimpanzee enclosure and these smarty pants fastened some of the fallen branches together and made themselves a bit of a ladder and got out of their enclosure.

WATTERS: Amazing.

KENNEDY: And look at them they yearn for a life outside of the enclosure. They know that there is something greater out there.

GUTFELD: You know what it is. It's clever lower thirds like the great escape. That's what they want. That's what they're aspiring to.

KENNEDY: Ape and grape.

WATTERS: Very good.

ORTAGUS: I think that they're fantastic.

GUTFELD: The great escape.

WATTERS: I for one found it brilliant. Ortagus?

ORTAGUS: Well, I thought this is really cute. I found this today. This is a very sweet friendship. Meet Elway, the duck. He is a rescued duck and his best friends are all dogs, which I think is really cute. Elway was rescued when he was only four weeks old and immediately fell in love with the other pets on the farm. Elway and his dog brothers are inseparable so much so that the owner thinks that the duck thinks he's one of the dogs. His very best friend is a little Chihuahua named Stout, there he is. There is the little Chihuahua. He eats the same meal schedule as the dog. He rests on the dog bed, plays with the dog.

GUTFELD: We get it.

ORTAGUS: So cute.

KENNEDY: So, when they run out of the farm, who is going to eat who.

WATTERS: Greg, for someone that didn't come in with a lot of love, I don't think you should be busting the chops of the producers.

WILLIAMS: Jesse, that is Mr. Animals Are Great.

WATTERS: I know.

GUTFELD: How dare they. That's my turf. Rescuing ducks.

WATTERS: Set your DVRs. Never miss an episode of "The Five." "Special Report" is up next.

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