ObamaCare: Even Nancy Pelosi admits there's a problem

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," October 18, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

ERIC BOLLING, HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Eric Bolling, along with Andrea Tantaros, Bob Beckel, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld.

It's 5 o'clock in New York City. And this is "The Five".


BOLLING: We've got a jam-packed show for you tonight.

President Obama must be dreaming of the day, the shutdown days, now that the disastrous ObamaCare scheme is finally being vetted. We'll tell you all about that in a second.

But we've got a lot more in store for you so stay with us for the full hour, because we're going to talk about whether or not Arnold is trying to game the system to run for president in 2016. We're going to tell you what he's doing behind the scenes.

And did you see the Kim Kardashian's post on Instagram that set the Internet on fire? We've got -- what's with that? Why would you put the banner like that? We've got the back story.

ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: Why the red ribbon?

BOLLING: Speaking of Kim Kardashian, one of her biggest fans is Bob Beckel. Bob Beckel has gone country. What he's doing in cowboy boots and a duster. Giddy up, Bob.

But, first, ObamaCare. You know it's really bad when even Nancy Pelosi is admitting there are problems.


REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), CALIFORNIA: There's no question that what's happened -- excuse me, thank you -- with the system for the national plan is something that has to be improved. I hope that we will have some answers soon and that the answer will be, OK, we found the glitch or whatever it is. It's been corrected.


BOLLING: We found the glitch. That's all it was. Someone forgot that switch.

Your thoughts?

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Yes, the problem is calling it a glitch because that lessens the severity of the problem. It's like calling pneumonia the sniffles. All you're doing is actually addressing the symptom of a larger problem.

A glitch is what happens to your iPhone, not to your eyeballs. This is about your health. I think they should stop calling it glitches. They should start calling it Obamas.

Oh, yes, we found the Obama in this. Got to get this Obama out.

I don't know, if the private sector -- if Sebelius was in the private sector, she'd already be fired in temping at manpower.

BOLLING: OK. Robert, come on, at some point, Democrats are going to stay, we screwed up. We spent 600 million bucks of your money. We had plenty of time to do it and we blew it.

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: I said before, I'll say it again, I think it ought to be delayed six months to a year. I think ObamaCare itself is a very good program. I think the delivery of it is not, period, end of story.

BOLLING: That's it?


DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Well, I think that's probably where a lot of people are thinking we like some of the things on ObamaCare, but they took the easiest part, the giveaway, and they screwed that up. That's what's really incredible. Just wait until people start trying to log on to find out if they could qualify for a subsidy. That part hasn't begun.

The career civil servants at the Centers for Medical Services and HHS are now starting to sound like they think this is a big disaster. I think one of the major problems it is seems like they didn't have enough imagination to think about all the scenarios of how it could go bad, disastrously bad. Perhaps that was because the contractor, the no bid contractor, didn't tell them. Or they weren't asking the right questions.

The administration seems to think they can get through this difficult period and get to something good, but I doubt it.

BOLLING: We mentioned something early, do we know that, was that reported or people are talking about it, that the contractor who put together the Web site was the one who did Obama.com?

PERINO: Well, if you look at -- I can't remember, she was -- if you look at "The Wall Street Journal" front page story, how the Web site woes widened as insurers get wrong data, that's the story that basically the insurance companies when they get any applications to come in, are double. But deeper in the article the story about a young woman, I have to look it up right, who was a campaign worker who then got the contract to do the Web site.

BOLLING: We're going to get to that in a little bit.

But, Ands, talk about this a little bit. We put together the full screen about, if you watch the media, the liberal mainstream media, here's what you saw.

ABC didn't even report on the glitches. They had an opportunity to do that on the evening news, and then in the morning show.

NBC and CBS either did on one of them. And in the case, of the CBS they did it on both. But they're certainly not reporting it to the extent that we are.

I think this is an important story, do we not?

TANTAROS: Yes, and I don't see how they get away with not covering this going forward. I will say, there's a number of outlets that have covered this. "Market Watch" talks about how the individual policy prices and premiums have been skyrocketing. "Politico", FOX News has been all over this. "The Wall Street Journal" has been all over this.

You know, when Dana mentions he subsidies, just imagine what happens when the fraud comes in and people are getting money they don't deserve. And people find out that that Web site cost over $600 million in taxpayer money.

So I actually think that Democrats, again, are making a tactical error when they company out and say this is a glitch. That is assuming there's not going to be more problems. If they were smart, they would come out and say there's going to be a lot of issues, we should fix these issues. Because Nancy Pelosi is saying this is just a small little glitch, she's going to have to walk that back every single day up until 2014, because these headlines airport going away.

GUTFELD: Eric, can I make a point? As you know, I am probably the foremost medical expert at FOX News with my history in health journalism. Studies show that stress dramatically is linked to heightened blood pressure which leads to stroke and also to heart disease, so what you're saying is ObamaCare is worse than tobacco and should come with a warning label and perhaps Obama should come up with a health plan to deal with ObamaCare and the suffering cautioned by ObamaCare.

What do you think there, Bob?

BOLLING: Hang in there -- can I ask you something very important? Dana's --

PERINO: I saw it in this article. It's a different article.

BOLLING: Right. But no, in that article, "Wall Street Journal" reporting some very important things. Insurers are getting the wrong data.

For example, they're getting duplicate enrollments. Someone signs up for it, all of a sudden, they're signed two, three, or four times.

How about this one? Spouses are being enrolled as their children. Data files are being sent. Eligibility. Some of the questions, whether or not people are even eligible or sign for it, are signing up for it.

What have they been doing for four years?

BECKEL: I don't know. The thing about spouses was interesting. My man Teddy Cruz said, you know, we'll get that 21-hour filibuster on this issue. And my (INAUDIBLE) was asked, do you have government health insurance? She said no, I'm proud to say I don't. Because she had a $40,000 a year premium policy paid for by Goldman Sachs because his wife is a partner in Goldman Sachs. So, if I were Teddy Cruz --

PERINO: His wife works in the private sector and he's on his wife's insurance --


BECKEL: I'm just saying, it's easy -- when you have nothing to worry about, you're being paid -- one of the biggest rip-offs --

BOLLING: The whole point of --

TANTAROS: Do you really want to go there?

BOLLING: Think about this, he doesn't want ObamaCare. Here's my choice. I have a Goldman Sach's policy. What is the choice?

BECKEL: Why wouldn't he say that?

BOLLING: Bob, he said for 21 hours, I don't want ObamaCare.

TANTAROS: Can I respond -- I am shocked you would reference senators and what kind of deal they're getting out of this. You have members of Congress and their staffers right now who could be making $170,000 a year and they're eligible for 80 percent of their premiums paid for by the government. You talk to anyone watching out there who's making $50,000, they're not eligible for these subsidies. People are going to be forging documents, lying about their income. They're going to be getting so much money paid for.

That's why I'm shocked anybody would bring up what Congress is getting out of this. I mean, it's just shameful.


BECKEL: No, I said that what Teddy Cruz is getting is a gold-plated insurance policy from his wife because he won't take what everybody else takes --

GUTFELD: What's wrong with that? We're not paying for it.


PERINO: But, remember, one of the things ObamaCare wanted was for employers to continue to provide for health insurance for their customers, or for their employees.

BOLLING: And family.

PERINO: So, what is the problem? That is such a cheap shot.

GUTFELD: It's a great question because --


PERINO: What did he lie about?

BECKEL: They asked him directly, where do you get your insurance policy? He changed the subject completely.

PERINO: He said he doesn't government --

BECKEL: They asked him specifically. Durbin did. Durbin said --

PERINO: I remember that. We should find that and play it because that's wrong.

GUTFELD: Bob's right, what about all those people who claim to be getting ObamaCare who haven't signed up yet, Bob?

BECKEL: Do what?

BOLLING: Ands, you put something together, can we hear what you found?

TANTAROS: Yes. So, I decided to do a little research here, a little math by "The Five", to see how the ObamaCare enrollees stack up against other things in the world which people can enroll for.

So, let's look at this, the Mars 1 which you can sign up to try to go to Mars. That has 91,000 likes. More people want to go to outer space than sign up for ObamaCare.

Also, a Web site called Boob Quake. Yes, Boob Quake. This is a response to an Iranian cleric's claim that the scantily clad women in the world cause earthquakes. Ninety thousand likes there.

Also a Dear Pringles page, OK, which says, "Dear Pringle, I cannot fit my hand inside your tube of deliciousness", has 1.1 million followers.

Also, just some FIVE math for you here -- Bob has more people enrolled in his foreign student exchange program at the Beckel institute.

Greg has more house boys.

Eric has had more cars stolen.

And let's see that full screen -- who has more followers? Jasper Perino. More people follow Dana's dog --

BECKEL: God, do you have to say that.

TANTAROS: -- than have subscribed to ObamaCare.

BECKEL: By the way, I make sure I got that right. So, the 91,000 who liked the Mars thing, would rather have that -- you said like it more than ObamaCare, right?

BOLLING: No. That have enrolled in ObamaCare.

BECKEL: Oh, that have enrolled. I'm sorry.

BOLLING: You know, just play along here, Bob.

BECKEL: By the way, every news organization I know has been dumping all over this.

TANTAROS: It's a joke, Bob.

BOLLING: Let's switch gears a little bit. A segment I absolutely love. Remember Wednesday we talked about the liberal media softball question, to the administration? Remember, Mr. President, how cool is it to be you, from ABC.

Yesterday, our White House correspondent, James Rosen, had a shot at asking the administration some questions. Softballs. No way.


JAMES ROSEN, FOX NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: I wonder if you could tell us more about what those meetings entailed, who the participants were, how closely vetted that or thoroughly vetted that press release was, and whether the White House might be willing to make available either to congressional investigators and/or to the public the e-mails, the memos, and other sort of paperwork that would be associated with the development of that press release?

JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: It is clear, because four Americans died on that day, that there was not adequate security. And that was revealed in the Accountability Review Board.

And I would simply when it comes to -- and I know we're creating an exchange here for FOX and I'm mindful of that.

ROSEN: What we're doing here is not for FOX, it's for the record. Will you be willing to make any of those documents associated with that press release available? As you did with the Susan Rice talking points?

CARNEY: James, I think we're done here. Thanks.


BOLLING: Jay Carney, give me a break. That was a legitimate question and the way you handled that tell us everything we need to know about you and the administration and the transparency you claim to have but don't. Embarrassing.


BECKEL: You still reading your open?

BOLLING: No. This is the second segment of the block.

BECKEL: Oh, I was going to say.

BOLLING: Can you just explain why Jay Carney gets a legitimate question from James Rosen and he walks out of the press conference?

BECKEL: I have no idea, nor do I care.

BOLLING: Dana, how about it? Shed some light on it first.

PERINO: Well, I have to say, having been there, I think that Jay Carney is doing the best that he can for his boss. I think at the end, when he said, "We're done here," that might have been a line that I would have used.

However, I do think it was -- it's a legitimate question. It will continue to be an issue for them going forward. They got a break though from -- on Capitol Hill. The last three weeks we've been talking about the shutdown. That meant that everybody stopped talking about the IRS scandal, Benghazi, Syria, and the host of other things that the administration was dealing with and now, they don't have to anymore.

GUTFELD: This is another example of what FOX News avoidance syndrome. Any story that is championed or of interest to the FOX News audience is immediately denigrated. And we don't really -- it doesn't really matter --

BECKEL: Do you know any -- I'm sorry, finish.

GUTFELD: No, it's OK, I'm done.

BECKEL: Do you know any conservative outlets besides ours that are talking about Benghazi?


BECKEL: Really, who?

BOLLING: Breitbart --

TANTAROS: Sharyl Attkisson at CBS News was until she was spied on by the administration. Bob, forget the FOX News audience, how about the families of the people who died that night? Clearly, there are three issues with Benghazi. Why wasn't that complex secured when the ambassador asked for security repeatedly himself? Why wasn't the stand-down order given that night? And who pushed the video?

And they haven't answered any of those questions. I mean, this consulate was attacked twice before. The third time on September 11th. Why didn't they secure it?

The British embassy was closed. The Red Cross had been attacked. It's a failure in so many levels.

BECKEL: Why can't the auto dealer Issa get that --

TANTAROS: Why can't you just admit it, cop to it?

BOLLING: How about this, Bob? How about this, when James Rosen or Ed Henry or someone from the right asks a legitimate question that needs answering, they stand there and answer the damn question instead of say, look, we're out of time? What a coincidence.

BECKEL: That's his job --

PERINO: Why would they -- from their point of view, why would they? They're winning with their base. They're winning in the court of public opinion. The media's completely on their side. Why would they?

I mean, out of the goodness of their hearts? No, because they care about the country?

BOLLING: Maybe yes.


BOLLING: We're going to leave it there. Directly ahead, does this make sense to you? If you think $17 trillion in debt is too much and want to keep your own doctor and have good health care, does it make you a racist? Some liberals think. We'll have a lesson for the left when we come back.

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BECKEL: What's the difference between the two of them?


GUTFELD: So, why the government shutdown? Hint, it rhymes with racism. First, Alan Grayson, the least attractive politician since Vice Roy, says the Tea Party was no more popular than the Klan. Then, Chris Matthews, so dumb, doorknobs often say, you're as dumb as Chris Matthews, says the Tea Party sees blacks as three-fifths a person. Sounds like Chris drank three-fifths. Drunk.

This is the same gas bag selling articles on civility. If Chris Matthews got any more idiotic, he'd qualify as two Chris Matthews.

Finally, actor Chris Noth aimed (ph) relevance by suggesting the Tea Party be horse whipped this year, too.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If President Obama is white, do we have a government shutdown?

CHRIS NOTH, ACTOR: Probably not. I mean, with these Tea Party guys, maybe, maybe it was inevitable, but there is something about Obama that makes these people just intolerable. And I consider it to be un-American.


GUTFELD: I could point out to Chrissy that shutdowns have occurred with white guys in charge. But why waste time in a guy with a depth of a place mat.

I'd like to see Noth try horse whipping a Tea Partier. A few war vets would whip his fat ass faster than you could say the good wife sucks.

Look, these examples on prove the lock step of the left, willing to egg on race warfare to protect their fatuous beliefs. Falsely screaming racist is left wing McCarthyism. It's a hate crime. For it's driven by their own secret racism to ruin innocent lives.

Grayson, Matthews, and Noth in their hearts cannot believe a black president can handle the challenge. To hide their bigotry, these tools overcompensate. It's why perverts start charities for kids.

So why do they hate blacks? I don't know. They could be in the Klan. That's why they wear the hoods. So you never know.

You know, it's Friday, Friday means it's montage Friday.

PERINO: I love montage Friday.

GUTFELD: So we're going to have a montage. Check it out.


CHRIS MATTHEWS, MSNBC: I have this weird "we" they refer to. We the American people. Do they still count blacks as three-fifths of the vote?

REP. ALAN GRAYSON (D), FLORIDA: The Tea Party is no more popular than the Klan.

SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D), CALIFORNIA: When you start acting like you're committing domestic abuse, you got a problem.

REP. CHARLES RANGEL (D), NEW YORK: This is a handful of people who got elected as Republicans and the same way they fought as Confederates, they want to bring down the government and reform it.

ROBERT REDFORD, ACTOR: There's a body of congressional people that want to paralyze the system. I think what sits underneath it unfortunately is there's probably some racism involved which is really awful.


GUTFELD: So, I tried to remember. I've done my history. Aren't Klan -- people in the Klan Democrats?

BECKEL: Most of them were -- it started in Indiana and it was not really a party affiliate but mostly in the south they were. Couple points here. One, you've taken examples of four, or three liberals and all liberals are not -- do not agree with this by any means.

But this is our FIVE mantra, that we take three examples and we make it the entire left.

PERINO: It was five.

BECKEL: OK, five, excuse me.

GUTFELD: There's so many, Bob. We've been doing this for years.

BECKEL: The other thing, I very rarely defend Chris Matthews, but I will say this. I know you didn't mean it this way, but he's sober for a number of years.

GUTFELD: It's a good point because I figure why can't I be low? If he's calling essentially my beliefs racist, I don't care if he used to drink, I'm going to call him a drunk. Because the fact is, you know what's worse than being called a drunk, being called a racist when you're not a racist.

I think actually that is -- as close as you can get to being called a pedophile in this modern day and age. So, if he wants to call people a racist, I'll call him a drunk and I don't care if he drinks or doesn't drink, it doesn't matter to me.

BECKEL: There's absolutely no reason -- nor is there any indication of racism on the part of the Tea Party that I've seen. I think they've gone way overboard in making these comments. They do not -- underscore -- do not represent the liberals of this country.

GUTFELD: All right, fair enough.

Dana, thoughts?

PERINO: I am worried that it does represent a lot of thinking. But people wouldn't say it. A lot of people don't say things like that in polite company. It has become acceptable to think of a Tea Party member as someone that is three-fifths a person.


PERINO: Acceptable to ridicule them and to speak with them. And to scoff and turn up your nose and to get that disgusted look on your face any time you say Tea Party. That's become acceptable. But look at their campaign tactics. It's obviously working for them.

GUTFELD: Yes, it's true. The fact is, the Tea Party -- it's an amorphous -- you don't have these Tea Party leaders like you do in other parties. It's an amorphous based on principle, not power. Why is that offensive?

BOLLING: I'm not sure it's offensive. I think it's dangerous. I think they saw what happened in 2010. They're worried about the same thing happened in 2014.

So what's the only defense? You can't call them pedophiles because there's no basis for it. You can say racist.

You tore Matthews apart. Well done. Well done.

GUTFELD: Thank you.

BOLLING: And accurate.

He was off base doing it. I'm not sure why Matthews -- and, Grayson, I literally think that guy's medicated. Grayson is just one of the wackiest people. I can't imagine how he got back in.

I just think it's unfair. And, Bob, I'm glad you have come around to the realization that you can't say Tea Party and think racism because there's no reason and there's no reason to correlate the two because it wasn't always that way for you, my man. I just want to point that out, but thank you for coming around --

BECKEL: You've made that point several times and I resent it. I said at one point, there was one person in the Tea Party rally that had a black -- picture of a black something or other. I don't think I'd ever refer to Tea Party as racist.

But you also have to say to yourselves they bought a lot of this negative on themselves. It's not the fact when you look at polling data that three quarters of this country think they're negative. It's not just because of Chris Matthews that happened.

TANTAROS: But now you have Chris -- you have Chris Noth speaking out. OK. Mr. Big from "Sex and the City." Mr. Big what? Everyone wondered.

Now, we know. Mr. Big Jackhole, OK?

I think the reason why the elites do this is because the elites believe in multiculturalism. They believe in diversity. The Tea Party deserves in patriotism. OK, that's why they deserved this condescension.

Now, you're talked down to, they're criticized, they're called racist, because they worship a different altar. They don't worship multiculturalism. And they don't worship the same things the elites do.

So, I think this isn't a fight I think over fiscal issues. I think this is the fight over the civic cult of America. This is a cultural --

BECKEL: You call 75 percent of this country elitist? I mean, is that what you're saying?

TANTAROS: This is a cultural --

BECKEL: Seventy-five percent of the country have negative views of the Tea Party --

TANTAROS: Of the left, Bob --


BECKEL: No, this is ridiculous.

BOLLING: You just conflated three polls all in one --


BOLLING: That 75 percent of people think the Tea Party is racist.

PERINO: I think Bob's right.

BECKEL: I didn't say racist.

BOLLING: You might as well.

BECKEL: The vast majority of this country thinks that the Tea Party's bad.

BOLLING: No, no, bob, the poll is -- 36 percent approve and 47 percent disapprove, if I'm not mistaken.

GUTFELD: Dana, you say that Bob's right --

PERINO: Look, the best -- what is the best defense? Is a good offense.

So, the left has figured that out. They needed a villain. The villain is no longer Sarah Palin as a person herself. They've gone on to the Tea Party now, it's acceptable.

And now, it's their tool. They use it all the time. And Ted Cruz gets the same kind of treatment.

TANTAROS: Yes, but why? Because they look down on them. It's the same premise of God and guns. They consider them back water Middle American patriots. And that is so disgusting to the left.


BECKEL: How do you explain GOP's chance to get the party back from insurgent wing? It's Republicans as much as anybody else who think they're crazy --

GUTFELD: They're yelling at me in my ear here. The little voices in my head are saying, coming up, Schwarzenegger may want to run for office again, and we're hearing he wants to be president this time. It's about time, American, for an Austrian to change our Constitution. That is some other celebrity scoops ahead on "The Five".


TANTAROS: Welcome back to "The Five".

Well, everyone loves a little celebrity gossip. We've got plenty to talk about tonight. Three stories, Schwarzenegger, Kim Kardashian and Gwyneth Paltrow. It's my dream block.

So, let's start with Arnold. "The New York Post" is reporting that he's got the itch to run for office again, but this time he has his eyes on the Oval Office. How he's going to do that, since he's an Austrian native?

Now, he's supposedly thinking about try to get the Constitution changed so he can run for president in 2016. Now, he went on to "The Tonight Show" and shared his strategy.

Remember this sound clip? Listen.


ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER, ACTOR: I think you're just asking me this because you know this is painful to me. I'm foreign born and I can't run for president. Isn't it?


Would you run if they changed that law?

SCHWARZENEGGER: Without any doubt. There's no --


TANTAROS: Greg, if the man is arrogant enough to think that he can do the horizontal cha-cha with his made, have a love child and think that no one will find out about it, I guess he's arrogant enough to think he can run for office and change the law.

GUTFELD: Look, being foreign born doesn't stop some candidates for running for president. I'm talking about John McCain of course, born in Panama.

I think he'd be a great candidate. He's already got his affairs out of the way. So, we know he's not going to fiddle faddle while in the Oval Office. Fiddle faddle, where did that come from?

PERINO: You tell us.

GUTFELD: That's like caramel popcorn.

TANTAROS: He's the king of fiddle faddle.

GUTFELD: He's the king. I'm done now.

TANTAROS: Dana, what do you think? I think Arnold is probably short on cash and need to get a little publicity going so that he could either sell some more books or try to get on speaking circuit. I don't think he's serious for one second about running for president.

TANTAROS: What do you think, Eric? Serious.

BOLLING: I doubt it. You can't change the Constitution.

PERINO: You can't change the Constitution?

BOLLING: They're not going to change the constitution.

PERINO: Pull it out, where is it? Yes, I'm surprised you don't have it.

BOLLING: I will tell you, he's a big fan of "The Five", though.

PERINO: He is?

BOLLNG: He wants to sit here one of these days.

TANTAROS: I bet he does. A lot of people want to sit right there.

Robert, this is -- this is just nonsense, right?

BECKEL: Well, you start -- you need to get three quarters of the state legislatures to approve a constitutional change which you have to get through the Congress of the United States with a two-thirds vote. I think the chances of that happening for Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2016 are about as likely as Arnold staying loyal to his next wife. It ain't going to happen.

TANTAROS: And his record in California. It's not a good one.

OK, up next, Kim Kardashian, Bob's favorite celebrity, is back. And she posted this racy shot on twitter. Cue the pic with the red ribbon, covering up her infamous derriere. Yes, scandalous, but it garnered 850,000 likes. That's more people than have subscribed to ObamaCare.

More people like her booty, Greg. What do you think? Do you like her booty?

GUTFELD: That's not her butt, that's the astrodome.

I don't understand celebrities. You know, they have this deep desire to be liked. They get it but it's not enough. So, they start taking selfies.

And it's so depressing. A selfie is like having your own mini award show when you're alone. Look at my butt, everybody. We get it, you have a big butt. Do something substantial other than eat.

TANTAROS: But it's an abnormally big butt, Dana, and she has such a small waist. This is why people are amazed by it. And look, she does look good after the baby, you got to give her that.

PERINO: I think this is what this all about, is that everybody else was getting attention, like Kate Middleton was getting so much attention for having lost all the baby weight immediately and she had it so now she has to show everybody that she has her body back.

GUTFELD: Her booty back.

BECKEL: She -- go ahead, Eric, you want to say something?

BOLLING: I would love to have something said if we had the picture. But you can -- I mean, it's really that stunning. Go online and check out what's going on there. How do you buy jeans for a butt like that?

BECKEL: First of all, that butt is made from cow fat or fat from her own body. I mean, all that's plastic surgery.


PERINO: No, I don't think so.

BECKEL: What she needs is plastic surgery on her brain because brains don't matter clearly to this woman. I think she's ugly it, I don't know why -- even I wouldn't sleep with that woman.

TANTAROS: That was low.


PERINO: She's got plenty of brains.

BECKEL: To get a whole lot of people --

TANTAROS: All I have to say is that we've got to move on, but we are talking about her. So, she is garnering our interest.

Another woman who's garnering some interest from "Vanity Fair" magazine is Gwyneth Paltrow, a very controversial figure. Now, she's trying to get this "Vanity Fair" story quashed. The editor says no chance of that happening. Sorry, Gwnnie. But Gwynnie has been around telling all her friends, don't participate in this interview, it's supposed to be a tell-all about this woman and her website.

Greg, what is it with Gwyneth Paltrow? People hate her, for some reason. Do you think she's this nasty mean person?

GUTFELD: No, I think she's an American hero. I'm a bigger fan of her wife, Chris Martin.

TANTAROS: So, Dana, she has this Web site called "Goop" where she talks about the higher life and living the high life and expensive food. Who cares? I'm going to defend Gwyneth here. I don't see what's so terrible about Gwyneth Paltrow.

I don't know here, but she seems OK to me.

PERINO: Well, for me, I don't care about her necessarily, but when "Vanity Fair" decides to come after you, better be ready, because look at what they did to Bill Clinton just a couple of years ago I think it was. And the Clinton staff actually put out a point by point rebuttal that was five times longer than the article. But "Vanity Fair" knows how to get under people's skin. Now we're talking about it. They're going to sell more magazines.

BECKEL: I hate to say, I don't know who the hell is Gwyneth Paltrow (ph) is.

TANTAROS: "People" magazine called her one of the most beautiful -- one of the reasons they say she is trying to get this story not printed is because they could be talking about a potential affair that she had while she was married to the Coldplay lead singer.

BECKEL: With Kim Kardashian.

TANTAROS: With this billionaire. His name is Jeff Soffer.

BOLLING: She's not married to Chris Robinson from the Black Crows?


GUTFELD: -- from Coldplay.

TANTAROS: Another controversial Hollywood blonde.

Could you tell I was more passionate about this supple than anything else we've talked about this week?

PERINO: More than ObamaCare?

TANTAROS: Yes, more than ObamaCare.

Directly ahead, this 15-year-old young boy has been an orphan his entire life but he still has faith and he'll find a family. What happened when he only told his story to the Baptist church in Florida? It's an amazing story that we'll make you feel great. We're going to tell you.

Stay right there, when we come back.


PERINO: Welcome back to "The Five".

Fifteen-year-old Damian (INAUDIBLE) has been an orphan all his life and he wanted to find a family and he has not given up hope.

Two weeks ago, he walked into the St. Mark Missionary Baptist Church in St. Petersburg and made a plea to the congregation. Will someone adopt me? That's what he'd ask. He said he'd take anyone and he promised to be the best he could be.

And then last night, this is what he told "20/20."


UNIDENTIIFED MALE: I know God hasn't given up. I just want people to love me for who I am, and just to grab me and keep me in their house and just to love me no matter what.

PERINO: So, Bob, there are 400,000 children who are living without permanent families, who live in foster care. The number of children in the U.S. waiting to be adopted stands at 102,000. A remarkable young man to be able to stand up and admit that he needs help and to ask people to come forward.

BECKEL: Yes, I also think it's remarkable. Once again shows you that in America, people are willing to reach out and help other people. I just ask Eric a question. You know the score of the football player from the Baltimore Ravens --

PERINO: Michael Oren (ph).

BECKEL: Very good, thank you.

PERINO: "Blind Side."

BECKEL: `Blind Side."

That was a true story. One that was, you know, just breaks your heart. This is another one. This kid will be adopted by some good people.

And I wish, you know, the fact is that the foster home system in this country is not very good. And a lot of these kids could use adoptive homes.

BOLLING: Can I take exception to that? My niece adopted, fostered five children, ended up adopting them. One left before they go to college. My brother-in-law is doing the same thing.

I think the foster program is fantastic. I'm very proud of what she's done, what they're doing.

If you have any inclination to do it, foster a kid. There are a lot of kids out there that need a good loving home. Try it.

BECKEL: You don't think she's the exception? Or you think it's a whole --

BOLLING: No, I think it's a great program. There's financial help to help people when you do foster kids.

PERINO: Big hearts for people who are calling and asking?

TANTAROS: Oh, yes, after the week we just had, where people are feeling pretty down and disgusted, this is a good reminder, to Bob's point, just how generous people are in the United States.

You know, my Greek father used to say, the American people, they're the most generous in the world. And he was right. They -- when they're asked to give, they do. And I think the story is just fantastic.

PERINO: I agree. There's some policy ways that you can help with the child tax credit as we, Washington, if you're listening.

We are learning there's some breaking news -- sorry, Greg, we have to go to breaking news. Let's check in now with Shepard Smith at the FOX News desk.



BECKEL: Yesterday, the producer of the show decided to post on our Facebook page a picture of me wearing cowboy boots and dusters. It got 12,000 likes on Facebook and 5,000 comments.

I will give you some of these comments. First of all, it says, "There must have been a cow girl involved." "Bob is about as country as New York City." "I'll bet the boots never have seen a cow pie to this very day."

Let me explain how this happened. I have been wearing cowboy boots a long time. I owned a ranch in Montana, 6,000-acre ranch, which we lease grazing rights on our neighboring ranchers. I've stepped in lots of cow pies, both real and conservatives.

I was out of that ranch for five years and had to put up with a lot of you right wingers around there, but that was all right. I do know a little bit about riding and I like cowboy boots. I like dusters. I decided to get back to it as the winter season comes in. So, there you go.

PERINO: We should all get cowboy boots and come on the show with you.

BECKEL: I think you should. Would you like Greg in cowboy boots?

PERINO: It would help height-wise.

GUTFELD: You know, I don't think boots make you Southern. You know what makes you southern? Hospitality.

PERINO: You mean Western.

GUTFELD: All the bad things that have happened this year did not happen in the South. It happened in places where people didn't look out for each other. If you look at the sex dungeons, if you like at the abortion clinic in Philly, those are places where people don't look out for each other.

You go down South, you go anywhere where's a Western motif. You find people who are worried about the people who live next door.

TANTAROS: And who are packing, too.


BECKEL: Do you wear cowboy boots?

TANTAROS: I have lots of boots, but no cowboy boots. But I will say, you have -- John Travolta has nothing on you urban cowboy. I like the look a lot.

BECKEL: Have you wore a cowboy boots or ridden?

BOLLING: We got you a present.


BECKEL: All right, man. A bola. There you go.

PERINO: Bolo (ph). Not ebola. That would be a disease.

GUTFELD: He has ebola.

BECKEL: Oh, wow, man. A belt bag, too --

TANTAROS: Yee haw!

BECKEL: Yee haw! We had 60 horses on the ranch. By the way, horses are among the (INAUDIBLE) animals ever created by God. But I had a horse who was red who was white and was huge because no other horse would come (ph) except for red. My partner sold the ranch out from I'm afraid, but I miss it a lot, called the Grass Mountain Ranch.

So, "One More Thing", up next.


BOLLING: All righty. Time for "One More Thing".

And, Bob, Country Bob, is kicking it off.

We're going to be talking about immigration for a lot of the show. I will get into that right now. But one part that just passed the Republican House and the Senate became five votes short was the DREAM Act. The DREAM Act would have allowed young people who had been undocumented and doing very well in school, in some cases, were on the way to become officers in the service. Because of that five votes short, they were not allowed to do it.

President Obama by executive order did let some of them at least part-time. So, I would urge everybody out there, if you want to help the kids, get back in and become the contributing citizens in this country.

The name of the organization you go to is thedreamisnow.org. Thedreamisnow.org. It's supposed to have a banner up there.

BOLLING: There it is at the bottom.

BECKEL: OK, the dream -- go to that.

BOLLING: We got it.

Greg, you're up.

GUTFELD: If you go to dreamisnow.com, you will find dreams about me.

Anyway, I said this.


GUTFELD: It seems to me that everyone involved is trying to blame everyone else and pass the buck or kick the can, if you will.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There's no point in putting the economy at risk by kicking the can further down the road.

JIM DEMINT, HERITAGE: We are kicking the can down the road.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is kicking the can down the road.

JACK LEW, TREASURY SECRETARY: Let's kick the can down the road.

SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: If we don't, we are kicking the can down the road.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It looks like we maybe kicking the can down the road.

CARNEY: It is a former of kicking the can down the road.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: In my view, it's kicking the can down the road.

REP. JOHN BOEHNER (R-OH), SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: Not kicking the can down the road is the right thing to do for the country.

GUTFELD: Can we stop saying that please? I beg you, please stop.


GUTFELD: That was 2 1/2 years ago that we did that, and nobody listened. That showed you that this stuff doesn't end. It goes around and around and around. Just enough to make you want to shoot yourself.

BOLLING: All righty. So, "CASHIN' IN" tomorrow. We found something really, really important on the Obama website. When you click I accept, one of the links in there sends to the source code. And look at what you have to agree to do in the source code.

You are saying this. You are agreeing to this. "You have no reasonable expectation of privacy with data or transiting or storage on the information system." It goes further saying, at any time or for any lawful government purpose, the government may monitor, intercept or search and seize any communication or data transiting.

That means they can do whatever they want with the information.


BOLLING: When you click on that.

PERINO: Including your weight.

GUTFELD: Oh, yes, Dana --

PERINO: OK. So, earlier today, I had a fit about kale, I hate, K-A- L-E. It's a new horrible --

GUTFELD: You got a problem spelling kale?

PERINO: I'm telling people what it is. Bob is going to demonstrate. He's never had kale.

So, he said he would try -- try the chips.


PERINO: This is Bob trying kale for the 50 time to see if he likes it.

BOLLING: He's phone ringing.

BECKEL: Oh my God. Are you kidding me?

TANTAROS: No kale for me, thanks.

PERINO: It's terrible.

TANTAROS: OK, the biggest threat to your children is not kale, guess what it is? These things right here, these bracelets. These rainbow bracelets that have been banned by one principal on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. Michelle who does our hair so well here at the FOX News Network loaned me these.

What do you think? Tweet me. Good idea or bad?

BOLLING: We have to go. That's it for "The Five". I've got kale on my mouth.

Thanks for watching. Have a great weekend, everybody.

GUTFELD: Kale in the mouth.

PERINO: It's bad.

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