Media criticizes Trump for calling Paris attack 'terrorism'

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This is a rush transcript from "The Five," April 21, 2017. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Eric Bolling along with Kimberly Guilfoye, Bob Beckel, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 o'clock in New York City and this is "The Five."

Brand new developments today on last night's terror attack in Paris. A jihadist with a long criminal record opening fire on police on the famed Champs-Elysees -- one officer was killed, twp others wounded before the attacker was shot dead. Authorities say the 39-year-old Karim Cheurfi had a note defending ISIS when he went on the rampage.

ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack. President Trump addressed the atrocity shortly after.


DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well first of all our condolences from out country to the people of France. Again, it's happening it seems. I just saw it as I was walking in so, that's a terrible thing and it's a very, very terrible thing that's going on in the world today, but it looks like another terrorist attack and what can you say? It just never ends. We have to be strong and we have to be vigilant and I've been saying it for a long time.


BOLLING: Of course the mainstream media pounced on the president for calling the attack what it is, terror.


BRIAN WILLIAMS, MSNBC NEWS: President Trump said right off the bat to a question, "it looks like another terrorist attack in France." We have not been comfortable to call it that or report that but we'll have more reporting up coming.

CHUCK TODD, MEET THE PRESS HOST, MSNBC NEWS: Always a dangerous time to be, you know, the coverage is getting ahead of the fact and I think, you know, the president was referring to I think what he was watching on television and you do wonder if people are going to take what he said as some idea that, it's -- that he knows something more than what anybody else does.

JAKE TAPPER, CNN NEWS: Unlike what you may have heard during the press conference from President Trump, although he theoretically knows more than French leaders would know. French police say right now it's not clear whether this is an act of terror, but authorities are not ruling that out.


BOLLING: In a tweet today the president predicted the new strike in Paris will have a, "big effect on voters there this weekend." "New York Times" reporter Maggie Haberman joined the chorus of critics tweeting, "Open politicization of terrorist attacks/highlighting them became norm for him in campaign and it continues."

KG, here we go. We have the mainstream media at odds with President Trump and President Trump finally is the one who says look, we're calling it terror, what's wrong with that?

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: They're just -- it's shocking to their system, OK. They have like bad honesty, truth, facts digestion because like, wait a second, he's saying at this. Yes, perhaps because he is the president of the United States. He's privy to information that the rest of us aren't getting.

The fact of the matter is, it was an act of terrorism and this is the person, this individual who matches the terrorist profile, you know, to the T in terms of how he was radicalized, long criminal record, the fact that they were aware of this individual and his activities so, these are the type of people that the world needs to protect against.

BOLLING: Greg, words matter in this respect, right?

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Yes, I mean, he really is the opposite of Obama. His nickname should be no-bama because -- I do believe that it pays to wait because you never know.


GUTFELD: And no one likes to find out that their wrong after they publicly say something, but there is hypocrisy in this media that they condemn Trump but they never condemn the people who making the opposite mistake who say clearly it's not terror and that it is. Or when they rush to embrace a hate crime which happens a lot only to find out that it's a hoax, that it was performed by somebody else which Trump had predicted at one point and they have laughed at.

But they will report the hate crime, but somehow they forget to report the hoax. So I think it's a bit hypocritical for them to go after him. But I am holding off judgment. He did -- the killer left a note for ISIS. It could have been, you know, the super hero. You never know.

BOLLING: Greg, the opposite of Obama would be Amabo. I double checked. Dana, Maggie Haberman a very, very capable and excellent journalist reporter --

PERINO: I have no problem with what she tweeted.

BKOLLING: OK, not that she's a little bit too --


BOLLING: -- negative on Trump.

PERINO: She's not negative on Trump. She's just making a point. I do think that last night or yesterday afternoon when you had the media saying, oh, Trump's getting out ahead of himself. Yes, that is true but also they could have hedged a little bit and said he could be right. Maybe he knows something we don't know because it happened right before the press conference so who knows. Maybe the national security adviser gave him information before he walked out.

We don't know and the reporters didn't know that, but what Maggie Haberman is saying is that, basically trying to -- we have been saying since 9/11, don't let terrorists drive your decision making and I think that's what she was alluding to. I think she was actually just stating a fact. I don't think she deserves criticism for that.

BOLLING: OK, I'm not necessarily criticizing. I'm just pointing out that she pushed back on President Trump's tweets. Bob, should we be concerned if President Trump says, hey, look at that, that's terror, we need to get tougher on terror.

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: First of all, let's take a look at the facts. This guy has had a criminal history as KG pointed out, but the criminal history has been attacking police. He was in jail for a couple of years for doing that. He was arrested again for attacking a police and this was several years ago. And so, you might have assumed that this guy has a problem with police and that's what he was doing. He wasn't necessarily a terrorist.

GUILFOYLE: But he's radicalized in prison.

BECKEL: Right, well, OK.

BOLLING: He happen to have an ISIS sympathy note in his pocket. Hello.

BECKEL: No, I understand that, but when President Trump said that he didn't know that. The issue here is, the argument is, is it going to affect the French elections? And in my mind, there's no question that it will. And so, do I think that Trump stopped them his way and said, gee, if I say this is a terror attack maybe it will give Le Pen another, you know, million votes or so.

GUTFELD: Is it so wrong to let it influence your elections if there is an existential threat like terror, something that int intent is terror and to destroy your country. Maybe that would be a good reason to vote for somebody who wants to stop that threat.

PERINO: Well, I think its part of the reason Trump was elected.

BOLLING: Exactly. Exactly.

GJUILFOYLE: It's a mirror image of what we saw here.

BOLLING: During the primaries there were a couple of attacks and we said hey, you know, would you want a president who's going to be tough on terror or one who's going to continue the Obama legacy of being incapable in calling radical Islam.

GUILFOYLE: Like the massacre in Orlando at the Pulse nightclub and we saw those things and San Bernardino.

PERINO: San Bernardino for sure.

GUILFOYLE: You've got to deal with the reality of the fact pattern. And yes, don't be afraid to make choices because in our past elections in this country, you had two choices. Someone who was saying I'm going to call it radical Islamic terrorism and destroy ISIS and be very aggressive and rebuild the military, and someone else who was siding with Obama which would say I won't use the words radical Islamic terrorism or jihadist. Choices.

GUTFELD: Do you know what's --

BECKEL: But let's get this (INAUDIBLE). This is the single issue in this election. In our election there were --

BOLLING: It should be.

BECKEL: No, I'm not (INAUDIBLE) --

BOLLING: For years, we've said, look what they're doing and you're --

BECKEL: I understand that. All I'm saying is --


BECCKEL: Trump used different instances during the campaign. There were a number of issues that were out there for the voters.

GUILFOYLE: The economy.

BECKEL: The economy and other things. Now, you've got an election where it is solely and exclusively on the issue of terror and illegal immigration.

GUTFELD: The irony is and I don't believe this terrorist was going to -- I'm going to do this in order to influence the election. I think he wanted to kill a police and he was radicalized as Kimberly said. But the irony is they do want -- they want a war. We are actually in agreement. We want to elect people who will destroy them and they want to bring that war to fruition.

PERINO: Right.

BOLLING: Let's move on to this. I want to tell you about a little bit of good news in Washington today. President Trump met at the White House earlier with an Egyptian-American charity worker he just helped free after nearly three years of detention in Egypt. Thirty year-old Aya Hijazi was acquitted of bogus child abuse charges earlier this week. It was touching moments to see both of them get together in the Oval Office.


TRUMP: We are very happy to have Aya back home and its great honor to have her in the oval office with her brother and thank you very much.


BOLLING: Yes, so Dana, so some great news. I guess president Obama couldn't free her and President Trump was able to do that.

PERINO: Well, I mean, yes, that is true. We don't know what was going on behind the scenes. We do know that President Obama was very tough in public and in private on el-Sisi for humanitarian reasons. I do think that the Egyptian president was looking for a good -- a way to have a good relationship with President Trump.

I'm so glad that she's back. She never deserved to be in prison in the first place. And I think hopefully there will be more of this, if we can also continue to put pressure on people like el-Sisi who have major humanitarian problems in their own country.

BOLLING: What say you Mr. Beckel?

BECKEL: I say that, I give President Trump credit on this one because I think he used his meeting which was only what, 12 days ago or something with the ISIS -- I mean, with the Egyptian president. And if I were him I would ask for something immediate, and what's the most immediate thing they could do?

GUILFOYLE: A release.

BECKEL: A release. And so I think there's --

PERINO: But it's also the easiest thing for el-Sisi to do.


PERINO: He's being a jerk for not do it for the last couple of years.


GUTFELD: Can we compare this to one really obvious comparison, Cuba, that Obama had the option to do something very similar to this, except bringing back a bad person, a cop killer from Cuba in a deal. Instead he gave Cuba what they wanted and we didn't get anything in return.

PERINO: That's a good point.

GUTFELD: I mean it's like, that's the difference with -- as a deal maker versus somebody who is just looking for a legacy.

GUILFOYLE: Can I add onto that, which is look at Iran, right. They give them so much money. They violate, you know, the agreement. They show total disregard and disrespect for the United States. Their state sponsors of terrorism working hand in hand with Hezbollah. We didn't even get any hostages back.

BOLLING: I'm not going to compare Iran to Egypt but I think you're right. Look at Iran when Ronald Reagan was elected. Immediately, I think it was the day after he was elected or sworn in, I'm sorry, sworn in, they released the hostages.

BECKEL: It was just within five minutes they started --

BOLLING: And that had some link.

BECKEL: Of course it had a link. All of these things have a link, but the idea, I mean I don't know when our beat up Obama period is going to end here on this show. Maybe it will go on for the next three years but --

GUILFOYLE: It's around.

BECKEL: You can't compare -- I'm sure. You can't compare all these things. I mean, the idea that Obama didn't try very hard to get this person out of there is crazy. Of course he did.

GUTFELD: How do you know that? Oh, you're talking about -- I'm still talking about Chesimard, the cop killer.

BECKEL: No, no, no.

GUTFELD: -- in Cuba.

BECKLE: I'm talking about the --

BOLLING: But you got to give Trump credit for getting her out.

BECKEL: I did. I did. But I'm saying that the circumstances gave him a chance to do that and Obama may have not have had that circumstance.

BOLLING: Because we had the other side of that argument, I'm sorry, the other side of the argument when liberals are taking credit for the Bin Laden kill when the reality of a lot of the intel came from the Bush administration.

BECKEL: Are we going back that far? Should you go back to George Washington --

GUTFELD: The only thing worse than being in a jail is being in someone else's jail. So, I mean it must be amazing really to get out. And I never want to be in a foreign jail. I wouldn't last.

BECKEL: I've been in a few jails before.

GUILFOYLE: Bob, they will release you.


BECKEL: They got me. They put me in an Alabama jail. They had me --

GUTFELD: I would learn to like it. I would start a little five in the prison cell.

GUILFOYLE: Talking to yourself.


GUILFOYLE: Exactly. To make you and your monologues enough already, get home.

BOLLING: Alright, let's leave it right there. Next, update from two of the president's top aides and a great progress the administration is making to keep illegals from crossing over the border. Bob is going to love this segment. Jeff Sessions and John Kelly, ahead.


GUIILFOYLE: Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Home Land Secretary John Kelly are finishing up their first joint tour of the Mexican border. Last night, Martha MacCallum had a chance to speak to we spoke with them both. She asked Kelly when the building of the wall shall begin?


JOHN KELLY, SECRETARY, HOMELAND SECURITY: I think by late spring, early summer we'll have some prototypes and then we'll be able to move forward by -- into the summer. So, we won't be able to do it all in one afternoon but we're going to get at it as quick as we can.


GUILFOYLE: He ans Sessions have been working hard on securing our borders but Sessions credits the president with the major progress the administration has made to keep illegals out.


JEFF SESSIONS, U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL: This credit goes to President Trump. It's his message that this border is no longer open. If you want to come to America, apply, do it lawfully. We admit 1.1 million people a year for lawful permanent status in America. So, just don't do it illegally, let's do it legally and we're going to get this thing done. I think it's quite a thing to celebrate this much progress in the first hundred days.


GUILFOYLE: OK, so you take that shot in the imagery there, Dana. You said that you believe this was well advanced --

PERINO: Well advanced. The shot is so important because America is so visual, right. You want to see what they're doing out there -- absolutely, the stage craft really good. I think one of the reasons they are doing it as well is not just to talk about the first hundred days, is that next week when the Congress gets back, the OMB director, former Congressman Nick Mulvaney has said that the money for the wall has to be in that emergency funding measure or they are willing to try to -- they would be willing to shut down the government over it.


PERINO: And in the Harris poll that came out on Wednesday I just think they have to get out there and try to sell this thing because 38 percent of Americans say they want the wall. Not enough in order to like justify shutting down the government. So, when they all get back on Monday or Tuesday or whenever it is, the Democrats and Republicans will have something to talk about.

GUILFOYLE: Alright, so Bolling, how do they sell it because they need the money and they also need the enthusiasm to put pressure on Congress?

BOLLING: Here's how you sell it. You say, listen, I'm not sure if you tie it to the funding of the government or not, but if you're going to do it, go for it and say we're going to get this money or the government shuts down. But by the way, Mexico is still going to pay for it and here's how and present a plan that will show the pay back.

It's a down payment on the wall. Continue to hold Mexico accountable for it. You ran on it, you've won on it, it's going to happen and I've given you three different ways to do it. You guys figure the most sellable way to do it, and I think that's the way. And then you hang it on the Democrats. Mexico is going to pay for it. If the Democrats can't vote for this, can't get onboard, then it's their fault.

GUILFOYLE: Alright, OK. So Greg, you like the imagery there, the two of them together, serious about the job, and communicating directly to the people?

GUTFELD: Well, you know what, I keep thinking about the fact that for so long we've been in a prison of two ideas. No matter what the issue is, whether it's immigration, you're either pro-immigration or you're against immigration. You're in this prison of two ideas.

And so I started thinking about the line, we're going to build a wall with a beautiful gate. And what that is, is that it destroys that prison, because what you're saying is you can be for a secure border but you are not anti-immigrant. We want to build a wall with a beautiful gate.

So you can embrace the terrified and desperate refugee and make them the most grateful American you will ever see, but you can also create a system that preserves the freedom in character of a country that makes it the place that everybody flees to. This is a pattern in a lot what Trump is doing. He's breaking out of the prison of two ideas. On trade, you can be for free trade or you could be for fair trade. But no, you can be for both.

And there are certain things that are happening even with war and peace. You don't have to go out all on war. You can do a incremental strike.

GUILFOYLE: Well, how about this, so I like what Greg is saying because it is --

GUTFELD: Thank you.

GUILFOYLE: -- important and words do matter.

GUTFELD: They do.

GUILFOYLE: But I don't believe President Trump stuttered when he said that he was going to put a big beautiful door there as well to suggest that, OK, there's going to be lawful immigration and people will be allowed in because this is a country that was founded on immigrants coming here to work hard and also to fight for our freedom.

BECKEL: Yes, I agree it was a good visual. The only thing that was missing with two of those guys were cheerleader skirts and pompoms.

GUTFELD: I have that if you need it.

BECKEL: Let's keep something in mind here. This slide in immigration into this country did not start in the last 30 days or started the last 60 days. It's been going on for the better part of the year as the economy gets better in the south. Secondly, the idea that somehow Donald Trump's tough talk is keeping all this people out is absolutely silly. And the third part --

GUTFELD: Wait, explain why. Why is that silly?

BECKEL: Because how can you prove it?

GUTFELD: You could prove it because they're actually sick. They're actually not coming after --

BECKEL: They haven't been coming through --

PERINO: It's like how Obama tried to prove that they saved jobs.

BECKEL: That is the point.

GUTFELD: We thought they did. Bob, they compared it to last year. It's been a drastic reduction.

BOLLING: Not last year. The last Obama month it's compared to so it's not been going on for the better part of a year. It's going Trump's way. Trump spending (ph) all this for three and a half months.

BECKEL: Well, I'll tell you what. It scared me.


BOLLING: 72 percent it's dropped.

BECKEL: You try to say you're going to lay it on the Democrats. It's the Republicans who won't put it in the appropriations bill.

PERINO: Right.

BECKEL: And he's got to work something out here. It has nothing to do with the Democrats. My guess is they'll come up with something, some face saving billion dollars here and that wall is never going to get built.

GUILFOYLE: Bob, they're getting two walls for the price of one.

GUTFELD: We need another bet. We need another bet. You got to make a bet.


GUILFOYLE: Oh, I don't know. Remember my last one.

GUTFELD: Yes, you're going to marry Bob, right, if there is no wall being built.

BECKEL: There's not going to be a wall, but I don't want to get married.

GUILFOYLE: I guaranteed. Listen, I mean, come on. You'd be a drain on my healthcare over here.


GUILFOYLE: Tucker Carlson --

BECKEL: That would that be absolutely for sure.

GUILFOYLE: Oh, Tucker, save us. Tucker Carlson joins us when we comeback. This show is going to a new time on Monday night and guess what, so are we. We're going to find out who his big surprise guest will be on Monday. You don't go anywhere.


PERINO: Welcome back. We are joined by one of our favorite people, Tucker Carlson. His show, "Tucker Carlson Tonight" is moving to a new time Monday, 8:00 p.m. eastern and the "The Five," these folks right here, moving to 9:00 p.m. So we'll be primetime neighbors in just a few days. I know he is looking forward to that -- we are. Hi Tucker, I'm just going to kick us off because I was going to ask you a question but he wants to ask you the questions so I'm going to give it to him.

GUTFELD: Well then you know what, I don't want to ask a question.

BECKEL: Stop whining about it and just agree (ph).

GUTFELD: I know I happen to know you're having a very special guest on Monday that I was trying to get for a while and was turned down many times. But somehow you have some special power Mr. Tucker Carlson. So who is this special guest that you ripped from me?

TUCKER CARLSON, TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT SHOW HOST, FOX NEWS: So Kaitlin Jenner is coming on Monday. And I'm interested in Kaitlin Jenner's politics and what it must be like to be in that position -- people coming at you from both sides. And so I want a conversation about it.


BECKEL: What does that mean coming at you from both sides?

GUTFELD: Because she's --

PERINO: She gets hit from the left and the right.


CARLSON: That's right.

BECKEL: I was thinking about it a different way, OK.

BOLLING: Exactly, Kaitlin is a conservative, right?

CARLSON: That's my understanding. I mean, you know, I haven't -- this is the first interview we've done so I don't know really know, but I've read that and I'm interested in it. And I'm also interested in the idea that, you know, people sort of wind up spokespeople for a cause or a group maybe against their will and I don't know if that's the case here, but we're going to try and find out.

PERINIO: She has a new book out and one of the things that apparently, there's a little bit of a feud that she has with Ellen DeGeneres and partly it was because of that very issue, the whole spokesperson thing.

CARLSON: Well how would she like to be recruited involuntarily as a spokesperson for people you don't know? Can you imagine? I wouldn't like that at all.

GUTFELD: That happens to me all the time.

PERINO: We're going to keep going here with other questions from Kimberly Guilfoyle.

GUILFOYLE: Greg, no one cares.


GUILFOYLE: OK, so Tucker, you know I actually got a chance, well I guess at the inauguration and the night before to talk with, you know, Caitlyn Jenner and big fan. I -- show me -- Fox News, I invited her to come on "The Five." So, you really did backstab--

PERINO: -- the book signing for the --

GUILFOYLE: Yes. I know. Fantastic. But what is the main question that you want to ask her?

CARLSON: Oh, come on, KG. I can't tell you that.


GUTFELD: It's about O.J.

CARLSON: It's about O.J. and by the way, it maybe, and also about, you know, a remarkable athletic career that people sort of ignore.

BECKEL: You know, I've known Tucker for almost 25 years now. That answer right there, she has already an idea what he's going to ask. Hey Tucker, let me ask you a question though. You the 9:00 o'clock hour that we're going to take over and you had a substantial lead in, very fortunate. The question is, are you going to guarantee us the same lead in?

GUILFOYLE: Yes, let me get a few across

BECEKL: Because a lot of our success is riding on you, buddy which generally, when I go to the horse track I don't take the (INAUDIBLE) one shot, but in your case, it should be about 3-1, and you should be the favorite. What do you think?

CARLSON: I mean look, I'm following someone in this seat for 20 years, more than 20 years and really successfully, you know, really understood this business and the audience. He's a really hard worker, you know, really talented guy to be totally honest with you. And I've been here five months, you know. So I'm going to do my best and I have a lot of things I'm interested in. I believe in skepticism above all. I think it's the main problem with the press. Not that they're too hostile to various people, but I don't think the press is note skeptical enough of others or their own views. I think it kind of -- I would like to watch people in power get, you know, respectful but tough questions. And--

GUTFELD: You've been here five months, and he's replaced three people.

CARLSON: Don't stand next to me.

GUTFELD: I'm scared.

PERINO: Next thing you know--

GUILFOYLE: He gets around.

PERINO: -- he'll be doing two hours. He'll be on "The Five," as well. Tucker, I wanted to ask you about your -- how you decide on your stories. Because last night I watched the show. And one of the -- I thought it was great that you had a big segment about vaccines. Because that wasn't necessarily top of the news, but it something that you're interested in. How do you come up with your decision for what you want to talk about each night?

CARLSON: I respond to my e-mail. That's a big part of it. A lot of people e-mail or text. I know a lot of people. Just, you know, I'm old, had a lot of work done, but I'm older than I look.

BECKEL: That's for sure.

PERINO: And people text me. And I've known Bobby Kennedy. I don't agree with his politics, but I think he's smart and I think he's a brave guy who asks questions that are unpopular.

I don't know what I think of vaccines. I vaccinated my kids. I'm for vaccines. But I also think it's legitimate to ask questions that nobody is. There are a lot of people who try to bully you into not asking those questions. And I just don't like that. I don't like people -- it's a red flag for you when people say, "You're not allowed to ask that question." No matter what it's about. And, you know, I'm a Protestant. I believe in kind of pushing on stuff. And--

GUILFOYLE: Are you -- wait, are you Episcopalian?

CARLSON: I'm not going to admit that. But I'm just saying, look--

GUILFOYLE: OK, because you kind of make this face when people, you're interviewing them and they're saying kind of crazy stuff. And I call it, like, Episcopalian astonishment, where you go--

CARLSON: I am. I'm one of, like, six Episcopalians left. But yes, I am.

GUILFOYLE: It's great. It's priceless.

CARLSON: But the point is, I think you ought to be allowed to ask legitimate, respectful questions, and you ought to press for an answer. That's not threatening to me. And people who are threatened by that are usually trying to hide something. It's usually people in power, and I think it's fair to make them answer the question. And that's all he was doing.

PERINO: OK. We have one more question from Eric Bolling.

BOLLING: Listen, very quickly, I would just love to know if she -- if Caitlyn Jenner was surprised at the reaction from either the conservatives or the liberals to her decision.

CARLSON: You know, I don't know. Because I mean, I've had no conversation with Caitlyn Jenner at any point ever. We're doing this cold on Monday. But I mean, I'm just really struck by the criticism I read about. You know, if you identify as one sort of person, you have to adopt an entire slate of political issues. I just don't agree with that. I think it's bizarre. Every person is an individual, and you ought to treat them that way, I think.

BECKEL: The executive producers are yelling we've got to go. But I've got to ask you one last question: in two sentences, can you tell me why you think "The Five" is so successful?

GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.

CARLSON: Honestly, "The Five" is so successful because it's great to watch. Every person is cool, interesting and smart. It's great television. I'm honestly -- I'm not exaggerating -- going to watch every night. I watch every night now.

PERINO: All right. All right.

BECKEL: Thank you, buddy. Good luck to you.

PERINO: Well, be sure to tell your wife that you'll be home at 10:30--

CARLSON: I will.

PERINO: -- instead of 9:30.

All right. Stay right there. "Facebook Friday" is up next.



GUTFELD: Good. Very good. All right. It's time for--

GRAPHIC: Facebook Friday.

GUTFELD: Mind-blowing, isn't it? It's like watching--

PERINO: We've got to -- we've got to upgrade that for next Friday.

GUTFELD: "Facebook Friday," that's what it's time for--


GUTFELD: -- so sit down, get ready. It's about to hit you in the face. All right. I'm going to start with you, Dana. From Kayla N.: "If you could change your first name, what name would you choose?"

PERINO: This is a hard question, because you -- I kind of liked the name Dana, because it was pretty unique.


PERINO: Right. It was, and now everybody is named Dana. Boys and girls.

GUTFELD: That's true. What's the world coming to?

So what is it?

PERINO: I don't know.

GUTFELD: All right.

PERINO: I like -- I like the name Kate.

GUTFELD: You should -- Kate's good.

PERINO: Everybody -- I like Kate. Kates are good.

GUILFOYLE: You know why? Because you're always predicting that Kate Middleton is pregnant.

PERINO: It did cross my mind. I think she is.

GUTFELD: Well, interesting way of doing it. All right, Eric.

BOLLING: So you know I love Latin culture.


BOLLING: Alejandro.

GUTFELD: That's nice.

BOLLING: The best Latin name. I love that.

PERINO: My name in Spanish class was Ramona.

GUTFELD: Very good. I didn't have a name in Spanish class.


BECKEL: Elvis.

GUTFELD: Elvis, nice. Nice.

PERINO: OK. Better question than I thought.


GUTFELD: How about you, Kimberly?

GUILFOYLE: I like the name Lilly.

PERINO: That's cute.

GUILFOYLE: That's what my mom used to call me that.

BECKEL: Lilly?

GUILFOYLE: Yes, she used to call me Lilly.

GUTFELD: I was going to choose Caitlyn.

BECKEL: That sounds like pure.

GUTFELD: I choose Caitlyn.

PERINO: I already chose Kate.

BECKEL: I don't know. It's--

GUILFOYLE: It's very appropriate.

BOLLING: You can still have it.

GUTFELD: It was all I had.

Or Kayla -- Kayla is a nice name. I don't see names.

GUILFOYLE: Wait did you say "Caitlyn"?

BECKEL: You don't see names?

GUTFELD: I don't see names. I think names are a patriarchal punishment.

PERINO: Do you like symbols?

GUTFELD: Yes, I like symbols.

GUILFOYLE: Because he's a purple penguin.

GUTFELD: I am. Thank you very much for that.

GUILFOYLE: You're welcome.

GUTFELD: Deanna J. -- I'll start with you. This is great. "If you could invent a new Starbucks frappuccino, what flavor would it be--"

GUILFOYLE: Oh, my gosh.

GUTFELD: "-- and what would you name it," Kimberly?

GUILFOYLE: Well, obviously, not the unicorn one, because I'm scared of that barista guy that was, like, freaking out over the unicorn frappuccino. I don't know. I really like strawberry and banana.


GUILFOYLE: Like a strawberry banana. Strawbana.

GUTFELD: Strawbana, very good. That's nice, strawbana.

GUILFOYLE: I mean, I'm good at this.

GUTFELD: You are.


GUILFOYLE: Frappuccino.

BECKEL: I'm proud to say yesterday was the first time I've ever had anything out of there. Never had a Starbucks. Don't intend to have a Starbucks. I don't drink coffee and--

PERINO: You use their bathroom.

GUILFOYLE: OK. That was weird. Non-answer.

BECKEL: Why was that weird?

GUILFOYLE: You drink energy drinks.

BECKEL: Yes, but it's Starbucks we're talking about, Lilly. Pure Lilly.

GUILFOYLE: That's me.

GUTFELD: All right, Eric.

BOLLING: I'm so boring. I don't put anything in my coffee. Could they make a frappuccino that has no sugar and no cream? Just a straight coffee?

PERINO: Nothing in your coffee?

BOLLING: I love the flavor of coffee so much--

PERINO: Like the blended -- would you like the coffee shakes?


GUILFOYLE: Did you used to like the coffee candies from Sees.


GUILFOYLE: I thought those were so good.

PERINO: I liked that, too, actually.

GUTFELD: Stick to the topic here. We're talking about frappuccinos. Dana.

PERINO: I've got one. I would have them do a partnership with my friend, who runs Edward Mark Chocolates out of Pittsburgh. Salted -- salted dark chocolate caramel frappuccino.

GUILFOYLE: You know what? You almost had me. Because--

PERINO: Till when? The part you didn't like?

GUILFOYLE: You bought me a box of those candies.

BECKEL: How about a sausage frappuccino?

PERINO: They might already have that.

GUILFOYLE: Sausage what?

BECKEL: A sausage frappuccino.

GUILFOYLE: Oh, Bob. Of course.

PERINO: The thing is, it's on my list of banned foods, so I really probably could only have--

GUILFOYLE: The milk chocolate ones with the little salted caramel.

PERINO: That's what I'm talking about.

GUILFOYLE: You said dark chocolate. That's for you.

BECKEL: All right. I would say -- I would say if they did a unicorn frappuccino, there should be a human frappuccino.

PERINO: Gross.

GUILFOYLE: Wow, what a weirdo.

GUTFELD: I was thinking of a ribeye rose. Ribeye steak with rose in a blender.

BECKEL: Thank you, Jeffery Dahmer. We appreciate that.

GUILFOYLE: You're like Hannibal Lecter.

GUTFELD: Laura W--

BOLLING: Do you have more?

GUTFELD: Yes. We've got six minutes, baby.

"If you could have the answer to one of the great mysteries of life, what would it be?" Start with Bob.

BECKEL: One of the great mysteries of life?


GUILFOYLE: You can pass--

BECKEL: Is why I'm still alive.

GUTFELD: We wonder that every day.

BECKEL: Yes. Exactly right.

No, I think the creation of the universe. I happen to believe it was God that did that, but the big bang theory people. I want to see them say something besides a singularity. Explain it. They can't explain it.

GUTFELD: Well, you never know. Could be -- Dana.

PERINO: Why the dinosaurs went extinct. Like, was it an asteroid, global warming, like what?

GUTFELD: I think it was -- I think they got Lasik.


BOLLING: So they could see each other?

GUTFELD: Yes, they got Lasik, and then they died.

PERINO: "Wow, we are so ugly."


GUILFOYLE: We're going to have to pick up the pace.

GUTFELD: Kimberly.

GUILFOYLE: I mean, this is like, "Woo." OK, so I -- I know, heavy lifting here. I want to think about, because being a former prosecutor, some of these unsolved homicides and like to go through the cold case files. So I mean, I would love to be able to solve every unsolved crime.

GUTFELD: That's a great one.

PERINO: Who killed JFK?

GUILFOYLE: Who killed JFK?

GUTFELD: We know that.

GUILFOYLE: Jon-Benet and also Natalee Holloway. That's it, the parents. Where is she?

PERINO: Who pushed the video? That's a good mystery.

BOLLING: Is there life on other planets?

PERINO: I don't want to know that.


PERINO: I don't want to know.


GUTFELD: How about this? Is this -- are we living the actual life we're living or is this a computer simulation?

PERINO: Is this a philosophy--

GUTFELD: No, it's more likely a computer simulation. We are sims.


GUTFELD: Because if each one of us decides to create a simulation, more likely there are simulations then there are one actual life.

GUILFOYLE: Whoever created me and Dana--

PERINO: Well done.

GUILFOYLE: Call security.

PERINO: More height next time, please.


All right. A special sendoff when "The Five" returns. We hope you'll join us.


GUILFOYLE: You like it?

BECKEL: It's a bittersweet day here on "The Five." It's our last day at 5 p.m. and the last day Eric will be with us as our co-host. We've had quite a run. Had a ton of great times with Eric and we wanted to bring back some of our favorite Eric Bolling SOTs.


BOLLING: Hello, everyone. I'm Eric Bolling.

PERINO: Eric Bolling.

GUTFELD: Eric Bolling.

GUILFOYLE: Eric Bolling.


BOLLING: Hello, everyone. I'm Eric Bolling, along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Bob Beckel, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 p.m. in New York City, and this is "The Five."

I love Mardi Gras Bob.

GUILFOYLE: That's like your high school yearbook photo.

BOLLING: That's right.

This one is "The Five."

BECKEL: Are you going to make it into the show?

BOLLING: You know what I think, Bob? I think you should lose the skirt and come out and join me for the "B" block. What do you think about that?

BECKEL: What a tough guy. I'm not that dumb.

BOLLING: What kind of dog is this?


BOLLING: A shello-squabba-what?


BOLLING: That's a good boy.

PERINO: We have found James bond.

BOLLING (singing): Diamonds are forever.

GUILFOYLE: What are you saying?

Security isn't letting you in.

Eric Bolling, you made it in. What happened to you?

PERINO: Locked out?

GUILFOYLE: I wondered what happened.

BOLLING: I bribed them.

Twitter, Spotify, Air BNB, a few other, PayPal--

PERINO: What about Grindr?

BOLLING: PayPal. I don't know about that one. No idea what's going on.

PERINO: I didn't know what it was!

BOLLING: Are you out of your mind?

"Make sure you tell everyone you're Bob." Really? I have to tell you?

GUILFOYLE: His Halloween--

BECKEL: "The Des Moines Register" poll.

GUTFELD: My notes. Can you see my notes?

BECKEL: I dropped a cup of coffee all over.

BOLLING: All over Dana's lap, too.

GUILFOYLE: Dana, that's so bad.

GUTFELD: That's why I hate children.

GUILFOYLE: I don't think they dab on "Special Report."

BECKEL: I want to thank Eric one more time. It's the last time--

GUILFOYLE: Aw, that's nice.



PERINO: That's awesome.

BOLLING: We had some fun times. Haven't we?

PERINO: Six years.

This show was supposed to be for six weeks.

BOLLING: Remember that?

BECKEL: That's right.

Dana, what do you think? Is -- you two have had some disagreements, but most of the time--

PERINO: We have political disagreements, sometimes. Actually, we probably agree more than you think.

But the other thing I always tell people is when I first moved to New York and I was like, "Wait, what is this place? The city is so crazy." And I was always afraid I was going to get somehow, like, stuck or in trouble, or like, in jail. The first person I would call -- and this goes into next week, so you're not off the hook -- I would always call Eric Bolling first. He would be the first person I'd call to get help.

GUILFOYLE: And I love those little outfits and everything that you used to wear. Remember when you did that, and then the time you did the ketchup packets?

BOLLING: Yes. That was the end of it. I got called into the boss's office. "All right. Enough of that."

GUILFOYLE: They shut it down on the second floor.

PERINO: No more props.

GUILFOYLE: And we want to say thanks to Felix at Del Frisco's. This delicious yellow cake has been the much raved about subject of--

BECKEL: Don't worry about it. He'll still spend a million dollars there.

GUILFOYLE: People always tell me they love the yellow cake.

BOLLING: Talked to Felix. Asked him. He was great.

Can I just tell you, thank you, Amanda, for putting that package together. You guys have been great. I'm not going anywhere.

PERINO: No, you're not going anywhere.

BOLLING: I'm staying right here at 5 p.m. You guys are going to 9 and killing it. I'm sure it's going to be amazing, and you'll crush it. But I hope everyone watches, watches from 5 all the way through.

GUTFELD: Do you get this table?

BOLLING: I think you guys keep the table.

PERINO: No, I already--

GUILFOYLE: A better table.

BOLLING: I think it's a desk. I think it's a legit--

BECKEL: Greg, what have you got to say here to this young man?

GUTFELD: I'm making a point that Jesse will never be able to do this. If he does that, I will smack him up the side of his head.

BOLLING: Thank you.

GUTFELD: And he can't do "Fastest Seven" either, right?

BOLLING: Well, Porter Berry is our executive producer. He and I developed "The Fastest Seven." He claims he did, although here's how it really went down. Porter says, "I have three stories. I don't have enough time to put it in the show. So why don't we just do it real fast and call it whatever?" And then we developed "The Fastest Seven." So you know what? It stays with the show. Stays with the show.

PERINO: Oh, really? You're giving us that?

BECKEL: Thank you.


GUILFOYLE: And I want to say, Bolling, I love you like a brother.

BOLLING: K.G., we've been like brother and sister.

GUILFOYLE: Brother and sister. I think we were in another life, and I feel like we are in this one. God bless. You've been such a huge part of the success of this show.

PERINO: Yes, no kidding.

GUILFOYLE: And the fans love you. And you're always so gracious to them when they ask you for a picture and stop--

PERINO: Yes, you're the most gracious on that.

GUILFOYLE: God bless. Tied with me. Come on. I've been, like, grabbed and--

BECKEL: Well, I've got something.

BOLLING: Can I just say one thing.


BOLLING: I love the show. I love you guys. I love the show, the producers, and you too, brother.

BECKEL: You know, I -- this is a particularly difficult day for me. You're going to have your own show, which you wanted. And you deserve it, and it's going to go great at 5 p.m.

But you know, all the arguments we have had on politics, and you were dropped on your head as a ten-month-old. That's the reason your politics went so far right. But I think it's fair to say that all the arguments we've had, we have never ever had a cross word when we left the studio.

PERINO: No. And you always butt dial him, too.


BECKEL: And I even forgive you for causing me to use a certain word on the air after you slugged me in the gut. But we really are going to miss you, man. You're -- I don't know how to put it. But it's important. You've been to me, and I know you'll do well.

GUTFELD: Of course.


PERINO: All right.

BECKEL: All right.

PERINO: That's a hard one.

GUILFOYLE: Well, it's bittersweet. Because he would love to be with us, but you know, duty calls. And you're going to crush it at 5 o'clock.

BOLLING: That's good.

GUILFOYLE: And this cake is mighty fine.

BECKEL: "One More Thing" is up next!

GUILFOYLE: You leave me with this guy?


BOLLING: All right. Time for "One More Thing." I'm going to go first. First of all, I want to thank FOX News, all of the viewers, thank the Murdochs, Mr. Murdoch and his sons. Thank you very much for that opportunity at 5 p.m.

But Kyle, can you bring this out? I got you guys a little parting gift, very quickly. First of all, we'll give the Jasper dog--

PERINO: Throw me a bone.

BOLLING: I'm going to really miss the Jasper stories.

GUTFELD: I bet you will.

PERINO: You can borrow him.

BOLLING: I would love to. Maybe I'll come visit you guys at some point.


GUILFOYLE: Thank you so much.

BOLLING: A beautiful rose for you. I'll miss you like my sister.

Bob, I brought you a copy of the Constitution. Read it, my friend. Read it.

BECKEL: I'll be happy to.

BOLLING: And last thing, Greg, I don't have anything, but I have something more important to give you, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart. A handshake.

GUTFELD: Fantastic.

BOLLING: We're all good. We're good now.

OK. Greg's up.

GUTFELD: Hosting "The Factor" tonight. It's the last one. I hope you tune in. And on the show, "The G.G. Show" tomorrow at 10 p.m. I've got Terry Schappert and Lauren Southern. So it should be a fun show. We've got a lot to talk about.

GUILFOYLE: Wow, that looks good.

BOLLING: All right. Mr. Beckel.

BECKEL: This painting was done by a Philadelphia Police Department forensic artist, and this is a picture of Robert Gooding Sr., who was murdered in Cleveland. And the reason that the Philadelphia Police Department did this was to send a message out that, because of citizens picking up the phone and calling in, they eventually, his -- the person who murdered Mr. Gooding was caught. And shot himself.

So I just want to say on behalf of the Philadelphia Police Department, it's a wonderful piece work. It's a wonderful message.

PERINO: That's so nice.

BOLLING: Very good.


GUILFOYLE: Yes, well, God bless the man and his family. Very nice people.

So I'm wearing this.

It's time for--


GUILFOYLE: Kimberly's Royal News.


GUILFOYLE: You probably all know at home, it's a very special day because it is the queen's birthday. Right, Dana?

PERINO: Absolutely.

GUILFOYLE: She celebrates her 91st birthday today, and she's expected to spend the milestone at Windsor Castle. She was born at 2:40 a.m. on April 21, 1926, and she is Britain's oldest and longest reigning monarch, having become queen on February 8 in 1952.

And in other very important baby news, we had a wonderful, wonderful baby shower for our fantastic producer, Megan Albano (ph). There she is. A wonderful time at Bergdorf Goodman. And we all had just so much fun honoring and celebrating her. We're very excited for the baby.

BOLLING: And Dana.

PERINO: It's National Parks Week, and because of that can you go to the national parks for free this weekend. You know I love the parks. And follow them on Instagram, U.S. Interior. You will not believe the pictures, and you can add your own.

BOLLING: Very, very good.

And I want to make sure I don't forget to thank Mina Pertassis (ph), who's been my producer since day one on this show. Thank you, Mina.

And that's it. Don't forget, set your DVRs for this Monday, 9 p.m. Eastern. I will see you Monday, May 1 at 5 p.m. on a brand-new show launching right here on the FOX News Channel right here in this studio. It's been a true honor to be on "The Five" since we launched in 2011. I'll miss everyone greatly, but I'll see you all very soon. "Special Report" coming up next.

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