This is a rush transcript from "The Five," May 6, 2014. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino, along with Andrea Tantaros, Juan Williams, Eric Bolling, and Greg Gutfeld.
It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is "The Five."
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PERINO: Last Friday, Speaker John Boehner announced that he was forming a select committee to further investigate the September 2012 Benghazi consulate attacks. Representative Trey Gowdy was named the head of that select committee yesterday and last night laid out his hopes for the expanded inquiry.
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REP. TREY GOWDY (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: We need of a list of the documents to talk to and which ones are left to be talked to. We need a list of the documents. And, by the way, I'm not interested in redacted documents or an over-classification. I want the documents. So, I want all of the evidence.
You can't draw conclusions if you don't have all the facts and what this committee is going to do is once and for all lay out all the facts and then your jury can draw whatever inferences and conclusions they want to.
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PERINO: Sounds fair enough.
The select committee is only the sixth name in the last 25 years, but you wouldn't know how rare the information is by watching the nightly news. During their 90 minutes of TV last night, not one mentioned the breaking developments, which leads to this first question that I will pose to you, Greg Gutfeld.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Yes. Uh-huh.
PERINO: If the media doesn't think a story is relevant or important, they will make sure that nobody else does either.
GUTFELD: Yes. I mean, well, OK, let's go for the facts that we were talking about earlier, which that there are four times as many reporters who are Democrats as Republicans. That doesn't mean we tell the whole story because the people who aren't Democrats are usually to the left of the Democrats. There's more nonconformity among zebras.
Then, you look at the media how incestuous they are with the White House, that they really do like President Obama a lot. He reflects their values. I would say it's incestuous, but that's insulting to Woody Allen.
The problem with this whole thing, as long as there's no Democrat involved in this committee, they aren't going to pay attention to it, because they are going to say this is not important. This is a partisan deal. So, it's a deal that they have made before the issue actually happened. It's like we don't have to cover it if there are no Democrats, but if they had actually done their job, there would have been Democrats.
You see my point?
PERINO: And there still could be. You cover all the topics in the A-block with that wonderful opening.
GUTFELD: I'm sorry.
PERINO: So, I just want to show people this poll from Indiana University School of Journalism, which is what you're talking about in terms of how many more Democrats than Republicans.
GUTFELD: Right, sorry.
PERINO: Self-identifying, as reporter level.
This isn't a huge surprise, Andrea. You were in Washington, D.C. for a while and covered media and politics for a long time. Not a big surprise. But a lot of reporters will say that their party affiliations -- used to at least -- not affect their reporting.
But do you think that's maybe that's changing and they maybe don't ask the questions that they might have if they were actually being impartial?
ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: I think that's right and in the last couple of years, we've seen some of these reporters when they are at conferences and they are on panels, John Heilemann, for example, and Mark Halperin --
PERINO: Oh, yes.
TANTAROS: -- have said and very candidly admitted that there is a left-leaning balance or swing to the journalists. They have admitted that, that the newsrooms are primary leftist. And a lot of them bought into the narrative and the story line. And so, they're not going to change now. I mean, they have too much invested.
I mean, Greg, you brought up the point they are too close. I think they are too friendly.
So, again, we're in the second term. They're not going to go back on this. It would be too uncomfortable for them. And also, their own credibility is on the line. Remember, they were the one that advance this story that he was the one, he was the one that we've all been waiting for. They were the ones that they have been waiting for.
What I don't understand, Dana, is from -- not just a credibility perspective, but a business perspective, why these outlets won't report on this? And when Eliot Spitzer went door for prostitution, I raced out to buy a copy of "The New York Times," which I don't typically do. I don't understand from a business perspective why.
And, lastly, this is the stuff that Pulitzer Prizes are based on, Pentagon Papers, Iran Contra. We know that the media has it in them to report if they want to. They're just choosing not to. They're putting ideology in front of their own career advancement to win an award, which I think is just bizarre.
PERINO: Pulitzer Prizes are actually given for a lot less now.
TANTAROS: That's true.
PERINO: (INAUDIBLE) awards a couple of weeks ago.
Eric, I'm going to ask you a question about something that might be worrying to the media or any Democrats who think they might not want to participate, which is last week, when Ben Rhodes, the deputy national security adviser for communications, when his email was released, in the Judicial Watch release, it wasn't in the initial documents because it had been redacted. Then it comes out later on.
One of the things I think that the media should be aware of is they don't know what else is in there. And if you are a Democrat, you also don't know what else might be coming out. So, do they risk looking foolish?
Well, they try to say FOX is foolish for covering this story. Do they run a risk?
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: I'm trying to figure out why the Democrats are pushing back over -- out of -- for just finding out what's going on. If that document isn't perfect example of why another panel has to be -- you know, House panel has to ask the questions because more information continues to come out, maybe Judicial Watch will get more question.
Here's the really interesting question. Trey Gowdy is fantastic. He's a great guy to have there. But, look, do we need an independent panel? Do we need a non-congressional panel, an independent prosecutor to come in and do the exact same thing, so he can actually -- less than partisan, just find out what's really going on and then turn it over to a congressional panel?
PERINO: I think that maybe he should be given a chance to least show that he --
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BOLLING: No, no, not -- OK, let's say -- yes, I agree with that, but in addition to Trey Gowdy, to the House panel. We're certainly not going to get one from the Senate because Harry Reid would never think of doing that, because apparently they don't care in the Senate -- Senate Democrats don't really care what's going on. How about some independent counsel?
PERINO: OK. Well, I'll think about that.
Juan, I want to ask you a question. I saw it on the panel last night on "SPECIAL REPORT," you were talking about Trey Gowdy and his -- having been a former prosecutor and that he is a serious guy that will do a serious investigation.
Then later on "O'REILLY FACTOR," I saw Bill Richardson, former governor, saying that he doesn't believe that President Obama or Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were involved in any cover up. But how does he know that? Because as -- there's not -- maybe they'll say there's not evidence to say that there was, but there's certainly not enough evidence yet to say, well, then, who pushed the video in the first place. Like, doesn't anybody want to get to the truth?
JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST: I think everybody feels that we've had the truth. I think everybody feels like we've had -- I believe it's 13 hearings. We've had multiple congressional investigations. We've had 50 briefing. We've had thousands of pages of documents and everybody feels like, you know what, I think Jay Carney said today, yesterday's facts, today's facts, they are the facts. The facts don't change.
And you've had Republicans -- there's nothing new. What you've had - - I tell you what's new. We have a document that says White House tries to protect the president politically.
GUTFELD: Right.
WILLIAMS: Oh, my God! What a shock! What a shock!
GUTFELD: OK. But your strategy right now is the strategy that was used with Bill Clinton, with Monica Lewinsky, is denial and what's the big deal when I'm caught?
WILLIAMS: No, there's nothing to be caught about. There's nothing to be caught.
GUTFELD: There was no funny business --
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WILLIAMS: There's no funny business -- look, let's talk about --
GUTFELD: First, he denied the White House being involved. Now, we find out, it's no big deal.
WILLIAMS: Everyone knows the White House was involved right from the start.
GUTFELD: They said -- they didn't say that.
WILLIAMS: Of course, they said --
PERINO: Here's the thing, is that if you did not think Benghazi was relevant enough to cover in the first place, you don't understand the timeline, therefore you can't understand what you are saying, which is like that can't possibly be true because X and Y are two different things in this case, they are both X.
WILLIAMS: Let me just say, in terms of the journalist part, journalists love ratings. I mean, you know more than politics, money counts. Money. And you know what? The American people -- guess what? The American people just have come to a conclusion, this is not it.
TANTAROS: Juan, you're not going to sell papers by repeating talking points that somebody else wrote for you. You're going to sell papers --
WILLIAMS: Oh my God!
TANTAROS: -- by answering the question that weren't answer. That's why this is news now, because the administration continues to report to this report, this ARB report that has so many holes in it. OK. It was done by the administration, number one. Number two --
WILLIAMS: Oh, my gosh! Admiral Pickering --
TANTAROS: Can I finish? Go ahead.
WILLIAMS: Mullen, Ambassador Pickering are just to be impugned, they have no credibility?
TANTAROS: Juan, Hillary Clinton was not interviewed for this report.
WILLIAMS: Why shouldn't she? They decided not to interview her.
TANTAROS: Don't you think she should be interviewed for this report?
WILLIAMS: She testified. Every Republican who wanted to slash Hillary Clinton had their shot in public.
TANTAROS: Wow, this is significant amount of data missing from this report. It's the cat guarding the henhouse.
WILLIAMS: Oh my gosh! Let me just say --
TANTAROS: And the question still aren't answered what was the president doing that night.
WILLIAMS: There is a conspiracy -- the only conspiracy going on here is the conspiracy of silence among Republicans.
TANTAROS: That's absolutely false.
WILLIAMS: You know what George Will? George Will -- you're talking about the "SPECIAL REPORT" last night -- George Will said, listen, don't forget what happens when Republicans overdid the Clinton investigation and impeachment. It hurt them politically. I think this is the same war.
GUTFELD: But the thing -- I don't think that's -- I think the thing when you were looking at the media, the idea that the influence of the media on everybody else in saying it's just no big deal, it is a big deal, and when you say it's a big deal, they mock you. "The Daily Show" says it's not a big deal, therefore it's OK for everybody else to say it's not a big deal. "It's not a big deal, dude" is actually probably the most precise way of saying it.
And this is -- and people think that divisiveness, this current divisiveness comes from hate. It doesn't come from hate. It comes from helplessness.
When there's an explicit partnership between the government and the media, the citizen becomes marginalized. And marginalization turns to anger, and anger turns to violence. When you realize that nobody actually gives a damn about what you believe, that the media -- the media is now the Stepford wives. They are pliant, they are submissive and they are robotic to the president, it is when the public decides, screw them.
BOLLING: Can I just throw something else out there?
WILLIAMS: What about all the hearings? Would you just ignore all the hearings?
GUTFELD: There was no new evidence and people are saying it's no big deal. That's my point.
WILLIAMS: But I think there's been hearings. There's been exhaustive hearings.
GUTFELD: The email said the White House was involved.
WILLIAMS: It seems like obsessive behavior at this point.
PERINO: I think it is unacceptable for the media to say there's nothing new here when the document that was reveal last week had been redacted by the White House. Why had they not just -- given the Ben Rhodes -- if it was no big deal, why not just -- when they release the documents, actually do so. They didn't, that's why it's different.
WILLIAMS: No one thought -- they thought it was about more than Benghazi.
PERINO: OK. That's ridiculous.
WILLIAMS: OK.
PERINO: Also, George Will shows that the right doesn't think in lock-step the way the left does -- the way that the left has been able to close in on this and say, no big deal here, nothing to see. I think that Trey Gowdy deserves at least a chance to show -- and he says he has no information.
Eric, I'll give you the last word.
BOLLING: Very quickly. Yes, there is new information, Juan. That's why there should be another hearing. We now know that there was an effort by Ben Rhodes, who knows? Did someone else tell Ben Rhodes to run with this idea of pushing the video instead of going with what they actually knew?
And the other thing is, we've since learned in the last couple of weeks, or week and a half or so, that President Obama was not in the Situation Room during the Benghazi attack.
So, the question remain, where was he that night? He definitely made a speech the next morning and flew off to Vegas and did his fundraiser. So, why does it matter? Because the next time you elect a president, do you think -- what kind of guy is this next president going to be? Is he going to be the guy who's in the Situation Room trying, to ensure that two more Americans aren't dead after first two are dead seven hours earlier? Or, are you going to take one that decides to go to Vegas on a fundraiser?
WILLIAMS: Let me suggest to you, the real crime took place in Benghazi.
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TANTAROS: Why haven't we -- why won't the media stay in the story, the president pledged in the Rose Garden to bring them to justice, the people who perpetrated the deaths of four Americans that we left behind?
And just as recently as last week, Jay Carney contradicted things that he had said before, things that people said under testimony. That's why this is a story, Juan, because if it was no big deal, they wouldn't keep contradicting themselves and lying. They would get the answers consistently correct and they haven't.
PERINO: Yes, it's not hard to get the answers consistently correct if you're --
TANTAROS: That's right.
PERINO: -- you have a timeline that doesn't change. That's just common sense of the press secretary.
Also, another thing that's common sense as a press secretary, a former one, is that you make joke. And when I suggested that a weather man ask the president about Benghazi, I was joking. So, all you people who called me with the most horrific words today, on the left, you can just relax. It was a joke.
Next on "The Five," we haven't heard from Monica Lewinsky for years, but the former White House intern has reemerged with new details about her affair with Bill Clinton. Andrea has those. So, stay tuned.
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TANTAROS: Well, it's been more than 16 years since that woman became a household name.
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BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time.
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TANTAROS: Monica Lewinsky's has been MIA for the last decade or so, but the former White House intern has resurfaced and she wants to set the record straight about her affair with Bubba. She wrote an essay for "Vanity Fair." And in it, she writes, "It's time to burn the beret and bury the blue dress."
She's breaking her silence, quote, "To take my narrative and give a purpose to my past." She says, quote, "My boss took advantage of me, but I will always remain firm on this point: it was a consensual relationship."
But she deeply regrets, quote, "what happened between me and President Clinton."
So, Eric, why now? There's a lot of conspiracy theories floating out on the timing of this article. But why do you think Monica Lewinsky, we haven't heard from in years, decides to go in such a very public magazine?
BOLLING: Trying to figure it out -- after all this time and in the magazine, she had an opportunity to make up to $10 million selling her story to various tabloids and whatnot. She said she chose not to, but this is time -- just as Hillary is about to announce that she's going to run for president.
Now, the theory that I'm hearing -- this could be completely off-base -- is that to provide sympathy for Hillary. Just remind everyone that Bill Clinton was a jerk, Hillary Clinton stood by her man. And that's what kind of person she is.
I'm not sure if that holds water or not. There's a bunch of theories flying around.
TANTAROS: Dana, you're nodding. That would be mean that there would have to be some level of collusion with the Clintons. Do you think --
PERINO: It doesn't have to be, because the media and Democrats can communicate without talking, right? They just look at one another and it's understood. And so, you don't have to have a plan. There's no like going to be any secret document. It's just something like we know that we need to do this and there's not like a secret committee somewhere like making this up.
I think there might be another reason. I do think -- I'm persuaded by that. I think that's true, somehow, this is getting out there.
Also, though, she's 40. Monica Lewinsky is 40, and 40 is a strange age for a woman. Like you start thinking like, well, what is life for? And she has had quite a time.
So, I think maybe she has -- you know, if you have 40 to 50 years in your life and she wants to put some distance behind it and make a clean break before the 2016 nonsense gets started, I could --
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TANTAROS: So, you -- wait, you are saying that lines of men have not just been around the block to date Monica Lewinsky, Greg?
GUTFELD: She's almost been married, but close, but no cigar. You know the problem is, the said thing about is, like her obituary, no matter what, the first line will always be about this and it happened when she was in her 20s and she will never -- no matter what she does, it's always going to be, she was in the Oval Office with, you know, Bill. And Hillary stood by her pig.
So, I don't know if that makes her -- still makes her a feminist or not. It's just someone who seized power above else.
But I do agree with -- Eric, I think this has something to do with building sympathy. Not -- people are going to say it's to take Hillary down. But it's not really. It's to build Hillary up.
TANTAROS: And then Hillary Clinton, if and when asked about it on the campaign trail, can say -- you know what, we've dealt with this. She's said her piece.
GUTFELD: They should meet for lunch. Hillary and Monica should meet for lunch.
PERINO: With Donald Trump and have pizza.
GUTFELD: She should try, Hillary, in her reelection campaign and keep her around just to bug Bill.
TANTAROS: You know what? I actually don't think she's doing that for Hillary. I don't think she's trying to gain sympathy. I think she's trying to gain sympathy for herself.
And, mainly, what you said, Dana -- if you look back on Monica Lewinsky's life, she's tried to, Juan, launch a hand bag line. I mean, she's popped up here and there. I'm surprise she hasn't done a reality TV show.
But if you read this article, she lashes out at Hillary Clinton and exposes her in a way that is not very -- is not very sympathy-gaining. She said she may have faulted her husband to being inappropriate, but I find her impulse to blame the woman, not only me, but herself troubling.
I think Monica Lewinsky is furious. And she's angry and she's doing this on her own, saying, you know what, I'm going to right my life after they had wronged it.
WILLIAMS: Well, in fact in the article, she says -- you know, that people were maligning her as a narcissistic loony tune. And this was not so much she thinks President Clinton, as the powers that be, that political power players were trying to protect the Clinton legacy.
But just in fairness to Monica Lewinsky, since she's having her big day, I mean, I'm not sure why she came out, but she says that the kid who committed suicide at Rutgers stirred up her mom. She said she was the first victim of Internet sort of gossip --
PERINO: Humiliation.
WILLIAMS: Right, humiliation, right, Dana. So, she says now, she's going to take on the Internet humiliation and bullying. She says this is an opportunity for her to get -- and I will say, I was -- I'm still to this day surprised. She got her advance degree, a PhD at Oxford in psychology.
And so, she said she tried to get afterwards and everybody tried to use her. They wanted her --
GUTFELD: Why is it always psychology? Why is it always psychology?
BOLLING: Can I -- she wants to burn the blue dress or bury it?
PERINO: Bury it.
GUTFELD: It won't burn.
BOLLING: I have a better idea. Three ideas, she can either donate it to the Smithsonian. It's a national treasure put right next to George Washington --
TANTAROS: A national treasure?
BOLLING: Or she can auction it off and maybe the proceeds go to bullies -- victims of bullies.
Or the third one, donate it to the Clinton Library. There's plenty of room there.
TANTAROS: Bullies, Bill Clinton is the biggest bully of them all, if you read Ken Starr's report.
PERINO: You know that the video of President Clinton in the Roosevelt Room when he said, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman," it's still shocking. It's actually still shocking to watch it. For me, I just think -- I cannot believe that actually happened.
TANTAROS: And reading the report of what actually happened, the blue dress was the least of it.
BOLLING: That's true.
TANTAROS: Maybe that's why she didn't -- maybe that's why psychology, Greg, instead of sex ed. She has the other one covered.
WILLIAMS: Wow, you guys are tough.
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TANTAROS: It was the least of it.
WILLIAMS: And he wants put it in the Smithsonian?
TANTAROS: I'll send you a copy of the Kenneth Starr report.
WILLIAMS: How about the porn museum in Las Vegas?
TANTAROS: Coming up, a former actress filmed her own abortion so other woman won't afraid to have one. She thought it was, quote, "cool." The author of "Not Cool" has the details on that disturbing story, up next.
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GUTFELD: Here's a heartwarming tale. An abortion counselor filmed her own abortion, describing it as birth-like.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I found out that I am pregnant. Hey, I'm pregnant.
I'm pretty early. I'm not ready to have children.
Yes, I'm really having an abortion tomorrow morning.
I just want to share my story to show women that there is a thing as a positive abortion story. (INAUDIBLE) I got lots of work.
I don't feel like a bad person. I don't feel sad. I feel in awe of the fact that I can make a baby. I can make a life.
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GUTFELD: Yes, and you can take one.
In the inevitable glowing "Cosmopolitan" article, she describes herself as a depressed actress, who became obsessed with birth and then abortion, so she became an abortion counselor.
But because birth control pills may cause weigh gain and depression, she skipped all of that and when she got pregnant, she decides quickly to get an abortion because there's no weight gain from that birth control, only weight loss.
So, what a coincidence? An actress obsessed with her own importance embraces abortion as an issue, gets pregnant and films her abortion and an article from "Cosmopolitan" is born. Talked about planned un-parenthood, was this stunt nursed from the beginning? Does it matter? It's just matter.
It makes you wonder if "Cosmo" would devote this much space if a woman choosing to have a child despite the inconvenience. Instead, they run a piece on horror stories when encountering pro-lifers.
See, the real villain here is the magazine who took advantage of someone who clearly needs help. To film the abortion became her therapy and the fetus a prop for a column. Who knows? Maybe the article will win an award. You can put it next to the sonogram to remind her it was worth it.
She -- the lesson she learned from the abortion, Andrea, is that she can make life. Isn't that amazing?
TANTAROS: Yes. Isn't that a good lesson?
I agree with you. She's deeply disturbed. This is a woman who admits that she was severely depressed and was competitive and jealous of other women before she applied to be this counselor, which makes me wonder, did the Cherry Hill Women Center ever think of a psychological exam. So, you have a woman who is depressed, who doesn't like other woman, who's against birth control as a birth control counselor, what could go wrong?
GUTFELD: Yes.
TANTAROS: It's positively disgusting. If you read even further down, Greg, she doesn't even seem to care about the death of this child. She's just so amazed with herself. She's so impressed that she was able to go through this and film this and create this baby that she doesn't even care and she never took the pill and she just says, I know it's kind of embarrassing but oops, with clear disregard for human life.
GUTFELD: Well, I think it was more just -- because as an actress, this was something to gain attention. It got it.
WILLIAMS: I don't know, if she was an actress. It says in the article that she's an abortion counsellor working at this Cherry Hill, New Jersey, clinic. She's...
GUTFELD: Quite an interesting one.
WILLIAMS: She's 25 years old. I think it's just a sad topic. I mean, I've got to tell you, it just depresses me.
But, you know, I mean, she says, "Look, it's a reality." I think it's now like a third or more of American women at some point in their lives have an abortion, and that she wanted to take away this guilt. That the purpose of this video was to say you don't have to walk around and be, like, you know, you have a scarlet "A" because you've had an abortion. This happens in a woman's life. And a high percentage of American women have had abortions.
So OK, but I just think -- I don't know why you have to -- there's nothing to celebrate here.
GUTFELD: Yes. That's the thing here, Eric. It seems like they're trying to make lemons -- lemonade out of lemons or something.
BOLLING: You know, I write these notes. And I came to the same conclusion. If she's an abortion counsellor, she knew that she was running a high risk of getting pregnant if she continued. So did she do it as a publicity stunt? I wrote right there, "Publicity stunt." Maybe she did. I don't know.
But here's the problem. She called it a positive experience, which is absolutely disgusting. How can you possibly say this whole thing was a positive experience for you?
Here's the thing, though. One of the sound bites we rolled -- now I didn't hear her say this, but she said it was "amazing that I can make a life." You know, the pro-abortion people have this wall that they try and put up and say, "I'm not really sure it's a life yet. Not until some point, it may not be technically a person, a life." But for her to say that and recognize that it's a life and that she was willing to take it, and then be proud of taking it.
GUTFELD: Yes. It's bizarre.
BOLLING: It's like some sort of genocide. I mean, that's the only way you can describe it.
GUTFELD: What do you think?
PERINO: A couple of things. So even when Americans are asked to pay for the contraception for everybody, they won't take the pills that are free, because it might cause weight gain?
GUTFELD: Yes. And depression.
PERINO: Just make sure I got that straight. Secondly, I always wonder in these stories about, what about the father and how the fathers are not consulted? Well, maybe he was, but she doesn't feature that in her video.
And the last thing I say is, I've always been amazed that if a baby is wanted, it's celebrated. And there's news. You can even release the news in the newspaper. There's going to be news on the front page of "The New York Post," there's going to be a baby. If a baby's not wanted, it's OK to destroy the baby and say that it's not a life. I've never understood that.
TANTAROS: I know we've got to move on, but real quick, she does report she has an IUD inserted now. So no worrying anybody. She's too irresponsible to take the pill every day, so she has an IUD.
And you know what, Greg? We don't know if this was a positive story, because we don't know where she's going to be in ten years.
GUTFELD: Yes.
TANTAROS: That's what she's not telling these young girls reading Cosmo, how this story really ends.
GUTFELD: Yes.
TANTAROS: If she was depressed before, let's check back in ten years. I'd love to read that editorial.
GUTFELD: I want to get to this. It's an update in the Nigerian kidnapping story, the mass kidnapping story where hundreds of girls were kidnapped by the Islamic radical Boko Haram group. We've got video of the leader of this group. He's been capturing these girls. He's got, I guess -- abducted eight more. This is what he has to say.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): Ladies, go get married. Leave western education. I'm the one that captures your girls. I'll sell them in the market. There's a market for selling people. God has commanded me to sell.
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GUTFELD: So...
PERINO: We have a maniac. A homicidal crazy maniac.
GUTFELD: Yes. And the United States are sending a team to help. But no troops. Just military law enforcement experts.
PERINO: Well, what I hope is that what they're not telling us is that hopefully, there are undercover CIA agents on the ground that are either tracking them or are able to help the authorities in Nigeria to try to find these poor young girls.
GUTFELD: Yes. Eric, President Obama just released a statement calling the abduction of the Nigerian schoolgirls heartbreaking and outrageous.
BOLLING: And honestly, there's not a lot more he can do at this point, as David points out. Maybe there's some covert operations, hopefully. And again, hopefully, the U.N. gets involved. Once you cross a country line, that's international, and that's human trafficking. And that's something that they should be all over.
GUTFELD: Is it our fought, Juan? Should we be going over there?
WILLIAMS: As a matter of moral imperative. You know, I think everybody in the world, and one of most amazing things to me is that this is now an international point of concern. Everybody in the world says, you know, that's crazy.
And you know, just on a personal level, you can imagine, you send your daughter to school, and this is a poor country in places. And these people are sending their child to school. They're trying to do their best, especially for young women, and the guy kidnaps 200 women...
PERINO: Almost 300.
WILLIAMS: You and I were talking earlier. How did they do it? They had a convoy. They're threatening people, you know. And now out of -- incommunicado. Into the jungle, potentially, across the border into Cameroon. So we don't know. I mean, so if it helps if the U.S. gets involved, to determine where they're located. That's our fight.
I mean, if we can offer, in terms of intelligence, some information that allows this president good luck Jonathan, whose wife has denied -- what kidnappings, doesn't believe it. That's where you just get into, "Oh, my God." Corrupt government, stupidity. You know, and there's real lives at stake.
GUTFELD: Yes. It is...
TANTAROS: I hope this is kept classified what we are doing, so that other terrorists don't see that this could be the new front on war -- there's going to be copycats. Because they're preying on the most vulnerable. This does seem to be a new terror tactic, going after women.
Also, every time we hear that there's a Republican war on women, can we play that clip over and over again, because it just proves that you can jail a filmmaker and you can give a big speech and talk about shared tolerance. A guy like that is not going to change his mind.
GUTFELD: All right, still ahead, are smart phones and social media ruing our lives? Ruining mine. A new video is warning that technology is set to unplug (ph), and Eric will share it with you next on "The Five."
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BOLLING: Over the week, I opened a five-minute video called "Look Up." It talks about how we've become so obsessed with our social media, life is literally passing us by. Here's a clip.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Look up from your phone, shut down the display. Take in your surroundings. Make the most of them. Just one real connection is all it can take to show you the difference of being there, to be there in the moment when she gives the look that you remember forever as when love overtook you. The time you hold your wife's hand, sit down beside her bed. You tell her that you love her, lay a kiss upon her head. She then whispers to you quickly, as her heart beats a final beat, that she's lucky she got stopped by that lost boy in the street.
But none of these times ever happened, because you never had any of this. When you're too busy looking down, you don't see the chances you miss. So look up from your phone, shut down those displays. We have a finite existence, a set number of days. Don't waste your life getting caught in the net, as when the end comes, nothing's worse than regret.
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BOLLING: Honestly, it tore me up, way too close to home. The message, look up from your laptop, your iPad, or your smart phone. See your wife. See your life. See your kids. See your friends, because if you don't, before you know it, it's too late, and there's no getting those times back.
By the way, I wish Beckel was on. I love having you on, Juan. But Beckel gives us a hard time every day in the breaks, checking the iPhones.
And, we're all guilty of this, aren't we?
TANTAROS: Guilty as charged. During the commercial break, I was glued to not one but two.
It's a poignant video. Will it change behavior? I don't know, because I think you get addicted. And it just -- it made me feel bad that I do it, but it also made me feel grateful that I was raised in a time when my mom didn't have a phone. I think, wow, I was really lucky, because she was so engaged, and my siblings were so engaged with each other. That, you know, I feel bad for kids nowadays.
WILLIAMS: It's compulsive. And especially in an environment, Dana, you know, that I live in, in terms of politics. People are always, like, Oh, what's next, what's next, what's next? To me, and actually an executive here at FOX said, "Put the phone down." I know, you've got to think. We need you around here thinking and coming up with ideas. We don't need you reading. So these days, you can text somebody, text me at 1 a.m. in the morning and then the next day, they'd be like, "Man, you didn't get back to me."
I'm like, "Are you kidding me?"
GUTFELD: Sorry about that, Juan.
WILLIAMS: Yes. And it was kind of lewd, too.
BOLLING: In a very short period of time, it has 23, 24 million views already.
PERINO: Yes. I think a lot of people feel it, and we are all guilty of it. Are we seeing it -- remember when I went to that concert, and the mom brought her daughter to the concert. The girl was eight years old, and the mom didn't talk to her at all the whole time. She was on her phone. And I felt bad for her.
And then I realized I'd been doing that to Peter the whole night, too.
I do think that point about putting it down and trying to be creative. There was a study last week that said that you have your best thoughts, your most creative thoughts when you're doing something, so walking, yoga, when you're actually moving and not on your phone. So to that point, that's good.
And also, the last thing I'll say: at the comedy club I went to with Bob on Saturday night, one of the comedians had this great line. He said, "Yes, your parents told you not to talk to strangers, but they didn't mean forever." How about that?
BOLLING: We try and engage social media. Should we be doing that?
GUTFELD: This is -- this is baloney. We're going to sit here and go, "Oh, yes, this is so important," but we are going to go right back to it. It's bogus.
By the way, there's an inherent flaw in this video. He's looking down, right, and he misses the woman of his dreams. That logic, you can use, like I decided to order in instead of going to the restaurant. I decided to skip the gym instead of going to the gym. You could be missing things -- you could miss your own death. Maybe if you were -- maybe if you looked up and you walked -- you'd be hit by a bus.
This is the dumbest video ever. You know, it drives me crazy. Yes, I hate it!
Technology opens -- opens avenues of communication for a lot of people who didn't have it before. We're in a medium where we could talk to all sorts of people. There are people that maybe are shy. This stuff helps them communicate. People said the same thing about telephones back then. Oh, when we got telephones, now we can't go talk to our neighbors. Maybe that's a good thing. Maybe your neighbors are jerks.
PERINO: Or maybe you're annoying your neighbors.
GUTFELD: But also phones are great. For women, phones are a great way to ward off weirdoes. Like, if you're walking down the street, maybe the guy comes up to you, wants to talk to you. You're just like this. I'm sorry, I'm on the phone. This thing keeps the creeps away.
TANTAROS: It's a good teach (ph) for my "One More Thing."
WILLIAMS: I can't believe you had this just blasted emotion over this. This really upset you.
GUTFELD: I am a cold person.
No, but I'll tell you, can I make one more point? And also phone -- I will agree, phones ruin bar debates. If you're in a debate at a bar over who is the first James Bond. People go, "Oh, it's Sean Connery." "No, it's David Niven." You could argue for hours. Now you Google it.
BOLLING: Some people even thought Usama bin Laden wasn't killed at the time. Prince is cleaning up his act and he says he's not going to wear anymore in any of his songs and he says why. Stayed tuned. Be.
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WILLIAMS: In case you missed Jimmy Kimmel last night. Here's what happened.
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JIMMY KIMMEL, LATE NIGHT TALK SHOW HOST: It's time for our first off celebrity curse-off challenge.
JULIA ROBERTS, ACTRESS: Wait, wait. Can we (EXPLETIVE DELETED) your brains? No, no, no. Go (EXPLETIVE DELETED) yourself.
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WILLIAMS: Julia Roberts and Sally Field held a curse-off. At least one celebrity has sworn off swearing. Believe it or not, it's Prince.
The singer just told "Essence" magazine why he's no longer using dirty words in his lyrics. He says, quote, "Did you ever hear Muhammad Ali curse? Would you curse in front of your kids, to your mother? We shouldn't curse at them. We need to treat all of them and all people like royalty."
Andrea, you're laughing?
TANTAROS: Greg is making a funny face at me.
WILLIAMS: I thought you were laughing at...
GUTFELD: This is my normal pace.
WILLIAMS: Prince had some pretty awful, explicit lyrics about women and things you do.
TANTAROS: Yes. You sexy blankety-blank. And I'm a huge Prince fan. I think he's a musical genius. But it's a little late in the game. I mean, he made all of his money. I mean, he wrote songs for. He created Mary Jane Girls, Appalonia, was it Vanity. I love him. I was rocking out to Dynasty Pearls over the weekend.
WILLIAMS: Yes.
TANTAROS: But I just -- it's a little disingenuous now that's he's made all his money with really lewd songs to say that he's going to stop cursing.
WILLIAMS: I remember Richard Pryor, Richard Pryor, who used the "N" word and cursing all the time. At some point he went to Africa and came back and said, "You know what? I didn't see any "N's" over there. I'm going to stop."
Of course, what happened is just what you said. All the younger comedians said, "Look how Richard Pryor became famous using profane language," and they started doing it.
BOLLING: Me?
WILLIAMS: Yes.
BOLLING: Let me tell you, my 15-year-old son, every other word in hip-hop music now is a curse word. I don't know how they're ever going to clean that up. Even if you took the "N" word out, it's still -- you know, you download these songs with explicit content or clean content, and if you you look at how many downloads, the explicit is, like, 80 times what the clean content is.
WILLIAMS: Well, you know, I think a lot of it is for kids, and especially suburban kids, they just think, "This is my opportunity to rebel." But you know, it's just damaging. It's terrible, especially for minority kids -- Dana.
PERINO: Well, I was just remembering how my previous dog, Henry, he hated any curse words. You couldn't curse in front of him. He would get so upset. So then I -- we really tried to watch it. Only if he was really in trouble.
WILLIAMS: What happens if I curse in front you? Will you be mad?
PERINO: No.
WILLIAMS: No?
PERINO: I've got a pretty strong stomach for that.
WILLIAMS: Oh, OK.
PERINO: Strong ears, I should say.
GUTFELD: First to Andrea's point. Prince is going to be 57 in June. This is what happens when you get old and you've had your fun.
But I have a theory, and I don't think anybody's ever said this before. We have seen a dramatic drop in violence in this country over the last couple of decades as swearing has increased, and I'm wondering if swearing is a necessity to prevent violence. That if you didn't have swearing, what would you do?
PERINO: You bottled it all up.
GUTFELD: Yes. What would you do before you swore? Who knows? Maybe swearing is helpful.
PERINO: Maybe stab somebody.
TANTAROS: I find it very helpful.
WILLIAMS: Who knows? We'll have to think about this later. "One More Thing" is up next.
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PERINO: Hey, it's time now for "One More Thing." Greg, you get to go.
GUTFELD: I really don't have anything.
PERINO: OK.
GUTFELD: No, I have big news, big news. The former White House press secretary and FOX News star, Dana Perino, is going to publish a new memoir -- you don't pronounce the "R." It's called "And the Good News Is." It's going to be out May 15. I'm very excited.
PERINO: 2015.
GUTFELD: 2015, May 2015. It's a year from now. It's going to reveal all these lessons based on your experiences and achievements. There's going to be a lot of juicy tidbits, some sordid revelations about your time in prison. A lot of people don't know about...
PERINO: A lot of people will be very surprised...
GUTFELD: Yes, exactly.
PERINO: ... with the information.
GUTFELD: Exactly. And your three previous marriages to Ozzy Osbourne. And your drug...
PERINO: I kept it secret for a while.
GUTFELD: And your drug habit.
PERINO: Don't give it all away. We're got a year to go. Thank you.
GUTFELD: Congratulations.
PERINO: I just want to be like everybody else at the table.
WILLIAMS: But let me just quickly say that I have children who think of you as a font of good wisdom and advice.
PERINO: Oh, good. Good. Well, they're going to love it. Got some good stories in there.
GUTFELD: A font.
PERINO: And I get to get promote something for Greg tonight, on his book. See how we're doing this?
Did you ever want to get social with Greg Gutfeld? Probably not. But if you did, you could go at 10 p.m. tonight onto his Facebook page, and he's doing a Facebook chat, which he doesn't usually chat a lot, but if he -- if it's 10 p.m., your chances of him saying something pretty funny are good. So I would log on.
GUTFELD: Translation: I'll be drunk.
PERINO: Yes, I was trying to be delicate.
GUTFELD: Why bother? Everyone knows.
PERINO: All right. Andrea is next.
TANTAROS: You're such a good drunk tweeter.
GUTFELD: I am.
PERINO: Drunk tweeter, that's true.
TANTAROS: OK. So Greg made a very good point earlier in the show that technology can save you from weirdoes and creeps and really bad dates. Remember this scene?
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JENNIFER ANISTON, ACTRESS: Oh, I have to get this. I'm so sorry. Hello.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Is this when I'm supposed to call?
ANISTON: What, what do you mean? What happened?
My best friend, she just had an accident, and she has this need. She's just very fragile. I have to go.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can give you a ride.
ANISTON: No. That's OK.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
TANTAROS: OK. We've all done it. I've totally done that before.
Now there's a new necklace. It is from the Guardian Angel. It's a necklace that, if you press it when you're on a bad date, it will send an emergency message to your phone, and your phone will ring. And you can say something like, "Oops, I got to go. I just got called to do a 'FOX & Friends' segment," which I've used before in the past, and ran out on your date. Break it.
PERINO: It's that -- it's the same technology they have for elderly people. If they press the button, it will call now.
TANTAROS: Life Alert. It's a Life Alert button.
GUTFELD: It's a date alert.
PERINO: All right. Eric, you're next.
BOLLING: Very quickly, Harry Reid. What's wrong with Harry Reid? From the Senate floor earlier today.
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SEN. HARRY REID (R-NV), MAJORITY LEADER: Oft times working with my Senate Republican colleagues reminds me of chasing one of these pigs in a greased pig contest. Regardless of all of our efforts, any time we get close to making progress, it seems as though we watch it slip out of our hands and the Republicans scamper away.
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GUTFELD: Unbelievable.
PERINO: Pigs don't scamper. Like the staff that wrote that, pigs don't scamper. So next time you write something like that for your boss, make sure you get it right.
GUTFELD: What do they do?
PERINO: Juan, you're next.
WILLIAMS: Hats off to Kevin Durant of the Oklahoma City Thunder. He is the MVP for this basketball season. He deserves it. And he broke LeBron James' streak.
He's also, now, the man who's not only MVP league leading scorer and exceeded the great Michael Jordan at this point in his career.
GUTFELD: Wow.
PERINO: Great "One More Thing." OK. Don't forget to set your DVR so you never miss an episode of "The Five." We're going to see you back here tomorrow.
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