Lewandowski: Trump's North Carolina speech was a home run; North: Mattis is not afraid to take the ax to bad things

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," December 6, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: And welcome to "Hannity." And tonight, President-elect Donald Trump -- he continues his thank you tour by holding a rally in Fayetteville, North Carolina. Now, Donald Trump's former campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, joins us for an exclusive interview in just a minute.

But first, here are some of the highlights from the president-elect's big event. Take a look.


PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP: And I'm here today for one main reason, to thank you, the people of North Carolina for being so incredible. We want to thank you. You went out and pounded the pavement. You organized your fellow citizens and propelled to victory a grass roots movement the likes of which nobody, nobody has ever seen before.

We stand here today just miles from Ft. Bragg, the home of heroes, the home of heroes. The military families in North Carolina are a national treasure. And it will be the duty of my administration to ensure that we protect those who protect us.

We seek harmony and good will among the nations of the world, and we believe that respect for mutual sovereignty helps form the basis of trust and understanding. But we don't want people taking advantage of us anymore. We don't want countries taking advantage of us anymore. We don't want that. We don't want that.

We want to be the smart people. We don't want to be what we've been over the last long period of time. We build up our military not as an act of aggression, but as an act of prevention. We pursue and build up arms not in order to seek conflict, but in order to avoid conflict. We want to be strong. In short, we seek peace through strength.



HANNITY: And joining us now in an exclusive interview, Donald Trump's former campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski. Corey, good to see you.


HANNITY: You know, maybe I'm old-fashioned, yes, sir, no, sir, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am, but you know, when you ask people to do something for you and they do it, saying thank you is not a bad thing to do, and it seems to be going over very well. The crowds are huge, and he's planning on doing a number of other of these rallies.

LEWANDOWSKI: Look, I think this is so smart, not just going out and seeing the people and reminding them that the power is not in Washington but is out in the states, but saying thank you for the support that they gave Donald Trump in this election. What he said was, We're going to unite everybody. But this speech tonight is really powerful, talking about the military, reminding them they'll have the tools necessary to continue to be the best fighting force this country and this world has ever seen. And with General Mattis there tonight, I think this is a home run.

HANNITY: Yes. And by the way, great choice. We're going to talk to Colonel North later in the program about "mad dog" Mattis. I know the military is very happy with that.

The thing that I like about the speech is he's reinforcing the promises that he made on the campaign trail -- in other words, orginalist justices, 15 percent corporate rate, repatriation, building the wall, repealing/replacing "Obama care," education back to the states, energy independence.

To me, if he does those things, he will be a successful president because people, I think, want him to follow through. Didn't we see that earlier today with the announcement -- you know, this deal that was made, $50 billion investment, 50,000 jobs with this -- this SoftBank deal that he made and announced at Trump Tower today?

LEWANDOWSKI: We saw that, plus we saw just last week 1,100 jobs stayed in Indiana. Those are hard-working Americans who are going to be able to keep their jobs here and have a great Christmas, where it's OK to say, "Merry Christmas" again.

Look, Donald Trump in the first four weeks of his presidency has done more to help this country than I think Barack Obama has done in the last four years. Now, I know that's a strong statement, but what we see is a commitment to our military again, a commitment to our businesses to reduce the amount of government regulations so that they can continue to and grow our economy, not at 1 percent, not at 2 percent but at 4 percent, 5 percent, lower the corporate tax rate so that our country can be competitive in a global marketplace.

That's what we have -- look, his presidency is summed up in two words, America first. I love it!

HANNITY: Yes, you know, I -- look, these two deals that he made before becoming president begin to define a pattern that Americans will get back to work, out of poverty, off of food stamps. They'll be able to purchase that home, lowest home ownership rate in 51 years.

All right, you were up in Harvard and you were part of a debate team. I know that Dave Bossie was there. Kellyanne was there. I think Paul Manafort was there. You were there going up against Jennifer Palmieri and people like Robby Mook. And it got really pretty nasty on the side of the left.

Let me play a part of it with Kellyanne, and I want to get your perspective on this.


JEN PALMIERI, FMR. CLINTON CAMPAIGN COMMUNICATIONS DIR.: I would rather lose than win the way you guys did.



CONWAY: No, you wouldn't.

PALMIERI: Absolutely.

CONWAY: That's very clear to me. No, you wouldn't, respectfully.

PALMIERI: Absolutely.

CONWAY: Do you think I ran a campaign where white supremacists had a platform? You going to look me in the face and tell me that?

PALMIERI: It did! Kellyanne, it did!

CONWAY: Really?


CONWAY: Do you think you could have just had a decent message...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You guys are pathetic!

CONWAY: ... for the white working class voters? Do you think this woman, who has nothing in common with anybody...

PALMIERI: I'm not saying that's why you won, but that's the kind of campaign that was run, yes.


CONWAY: How about it's Hillary Clinton? She doesn't connect with people.  How about they have nothing in common with her?


HANNITY: My question -- you were there. Was it really that bad? Are they really that far I guess out of touch with reality, that they still don't understand what happened?

LEWANDOWSKI: Well, I think -- look, I was there, and the Clinton campaign has not come to the realization that they had a fatally flawed candidate that never connected with the American people. Donald Trump won over 200 counties which Barack Obama won four years ago.

That is not for any other reason other than the fact that people want a better country. The connect with Donald Trump. He understands the problems of the working class. He's fixing those problems already, as we see, by bringing jobs, keeping jobs here in America.

The Clinton campaign were in a fundamentally flawed campaign, had a fundamentally flawed candidate, and they refuse to take any blame for the way that the campaign turned out. They blame everybody except themselves for it!

HANNITY: Yes. One of the things Donald Trump talked about today was $4 billion being spent on Air Force One, a contract with Boeing. I want to be very clear here. I think the president of the United States, regardless of who it happens to be, needs the best, the safest aircraft in the day and age of radical Islam and ISIS and al Qaeda and fear of surface-to-air missiles. It's a scary time. So air Force One will need defenses that no other plane needs. It's the right thing to do.

But $4 billion -- here's what Donald Trump said earlier.


TRUMP: Well, the plane is totally out of control. It's going to be over $4 billion. It's for Air Force One program. And I think it's ridiculous.  I think Boeing is doing a little bit of a number. We want Boeing to make a lot of money, but not that much money. OK, thank you.


HANNITY: USA Today said $3.2 billion, but somewhere in that range, which is astronomical. I can't fathom any plane or two planes costing that amount of money. Your thoughts.

LEWANDOWSKI: Well, here's what it is. What Donald Trump is a businessman who understands how to control costs to be successful. And taking over the role as the CEO of the United States, it's a $4 trillion budget, and he's looking at $4 billion and saying, Is this the best we can do? Let's shave the cost. Let's use our taxpayer dollars wisely.

I love this! If he's looking at a $4 billion investment as the grand total of what the federal government spends, that means all of those projects are going to be available for review. And we're going to save money. We're going to return that money to the taxpayers. We're going to stop the burden on federal -- of the federal bureaucracy onto these small businesses, and we'll grow our economy so we can compete in the global marketplace.

Why are we spending $4 billion if the plane really should be a $2 billion plane? I agree with Donald Trump.

HANNITY: Yes, I think -- look, you got to watch out for the taxpayers' money, especially when we have $20 trillion in debt and nearly 200 -- oh, $125 trillion in unfunded liabilities.

Let me ask you this question. There's an article today, it quoted Congressman Flores of Texas, and the article talked at length about how some Republicans -- and we know a lot of them were not on board with Donald Trump. I would even say Speaker Ryan -- he even admits he didn't see what was happening in the country, not even in his own home state.

But the gist of the article was, Oh, let's just pass those things that we agree with Donald Trump about, like cutting taxes, reforming the tax code, the easy things, and then the things we disagree on, we'll deal with later.

Why do I feel that they're never going to want to do the things later and they're only going to want to pass the things they want to pass. It's sort of like you always get the tax increase and you never get the spending cuts. You always get the amnesty, you never get the wall.

Is this an indication of President-elect Trump that he better pay very close attention to what these Republicans are doing because if he wants immigration reform and tough immigration laws and tough vetting of refugees, he'd better get it up front because otherwise, he gives away his leverage?

LEWANDOWSKI: Well, I think so. Look, I think the first 100 days of this administration are going to be critical to make sure that his agenda is being accomplished and being put forth. And he is going to Washington, D.C., with a mandate, and I think the Republicans have to recognize that.  He won more electoral votes...

HANNITY: So you agree...


LEWANDOWSKI: ... since Ronald Reagan's re-election.

HANNITY: You don't trust the Republicans...

LEWANDOWSKI: Of course not.

HANNITY: ... any more than I do.

LEWANDOWSKI: Look -- I don't, and what I know is that Donald Trump is a businessman, and he knows how to accomplish deals. He knows how to make sure that people both walk away from the table happy.

But he's also made a promise to the American people, and that promise is to build a wall on the southern border and to protect U.S. citizens, and the number one job of a president of the United States is to make sure that your citizens both here and abroad are safe. That is what he's going to do, and no congressman, no member of the United States Senate is going to stop him from doing that.

HANNITY: By the way, isn't it better to be on a network where it's not 10 on 1?

LEWANDOWSKI: Well, look, I'll tell you, I -- I've got a lot of friends at the other side, but it's nice to be here where we both agree that Donald Trump is the right candidate for president of the United States.

HANNITY: All right. Corey Lewandowski, stay right there. We'll be right back with him right after the break, and he will be debating Austan Goolsbee.

And coming up tonight on "Hannity"...


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He did talk unity at his big rally in Cincinnati.  The problem was, you know, he kind of dissed Hillary Clinton. The crowd chanted "Lock her up." The crowd was mostly white.


HANNITY: Whiny liberals and the crybaby mainstream alt left media -- they can't get over the fact that Donald Trump, yes, will be our next president.  Corey Lewandowski -- he goes head to head with Austan Goolsbee over that issue.

And later, President-elect Trump's nominee for secretary of defense, General James "Mad Dog" Mattis, was at the thank you rally tonight.  Colonel Oliver North knows him personally. He'll tell us about him, give us reaction.

That and more tonight on "Hannity."


TRUMP: In every generation, a new threat to freedom arises. And just as we defeated these threats, we faced generations in the past. And you understand that. So, too, will we defeat the forces of terrorism.





TRUMP: I believe we're in the process of putting together one of the all- time great cabinets that has ever been assembled in our nation's history.


TRUMP: We have some great, great people going to be named over the next couple of days, too. But to accomplish our goals, we must reject the failed approaches of the past. We must move past the tired conventional thinking of Washington, D.C.


HANNITY: So that was President-elect Donald Trump speaking in Fayetteville, North Carolina, earlier tonight as part of his thank you tour.

But the liberal mainstream media -- they refuse to accept that Donald Trump will be your next president. Now, to take a look at one of the so-called news networks, look how they're treating your president-elect.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This was a whitelash. This was a whitelash against a changing country. It was a whitelash against a black president in part.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to recognize, a lot of our viewers at home, this is frightening to them, and we should acknowledge that. This may feel to a lot of our viewers at home like a national emergency. Why? Because Steve Bannon has been described as someone who has been described as a white supremacist, as someone who's an anti-Semite.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Inflammatory words about Islam from Donald Trump's choice to be his White House national security adviser.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This hour, hateful groups emboldened by Donald Trump's election, on line opinions moving off line.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He did talk unity at his big rally in Cincinnati.  The problem was, you know, he kind of dissed Hillary Clinton. The crowd chanted "Lock her up." The crowd was mostly white.


HANNITY: Still with us, Donald Trump's former campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, and joining us now, former Obama economic adviser Austan Goolsbee.

You know, Corey, I've gone over these numbers a lot with Austan over the years -- 13 million more Americans on food stamps, 8 million more in poverty since Obama's president, the lowest labor participation rate since the '70s, the worst home ownership rate in 51 years.

Let's go to Donald Trump from earlier today, and let's look at him announcing the deal with SoftBank, $50 billion investment, 50,000 jobs.  Watch this.


TRUMP: So ladies and gentlemen, this is Masa of SoftBank from Japan, and he's just agreed to invest $50 billion in the United States and 50,000 jobs. And he's one of the great men of industry. So I just want to thank you very much.

MASAYOSHI SON, SOFTBANK CEO: Thank you. Thank you.

TRUMP: Thank you very much.


HANNITY: So Austan, I'll ask you -- President Obama said, What's he going to do with Carrier, wave his magic wand? How is he going to get all these companies to invest? Well, it appears that his magic wand is called the telephone, and he picks up the phone and he got the deal done that Obama couldn't get done. Is that a good thing or a bad thing, Austan, that we have 1,100 saved Carrier jobs?


HANNITY: Fifty billion investment.

GOOLSBEE: Carrier is a different case. This SoftBank, we'll look at it.  This looks pretty good to me. I think...

HANNITY: Pretty good? $50 billion is pretty good? Just pretty good?

GOOLSBEE: I think that's a good win. Now, I would highlight that Obama's added more than 15 million jobs since 2010, so he'd better step up his game as president to try to match that.


GOOLSBEE: But I think this is a good win for him.

HANNITY: Yes, I know. And that's -- Corey, that's exactly why Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio were easy wins for Donald Trump, or relatively easy...

GOOLSBEE: That's why the majority of America voted against him. But yes, it's fine.

HANNITY: But he didn't campaign in New York, New Jersey and California because we don't have a system based on the popular vote. Corey?

GOOLSBEE: I didn't say we did. I didn't say we did.

LEWANDOWSKI: Look, Sean, Donald Trump has been the president-elect of this country for just over four weeks. He saved 1,000 jobs in the state of Indiana, which means 1,000...


LEWANDOWSKI: But -- 1,100. But all the extra jobs that go along with that, which means a great Christmas, which you can say, again, Merry Christmas because Donald Trump is now the president. You can say it again.  It's OK to say. It's not a pejorative word anymore.



LEWANDOWSKI: The other thing is, $50 billion and 50,000 jobs in the first few weeks -- we continue down this path, we're going to have -- we have to have an increase in immigration to fill up these jobs or we're going to have too many in our own country!

GOOLSBEE: Actually, that would be fewer jobs than Barack Obama has been adding for the last six years.

HANNITY: You know, Austan, with all due respect, you are the only American that gives him good grades on the economy, but he's gone in, what, less than 60 days. He's done, and the Obama era, thankfully, is over. And we'll survive and we'll clean up his mess.

Do you have a problem with a 10 percent repatriation rate for trillions of dollars for multi-national corporations? Do you have a probably with a 15 percent corporate tax rate?

GOOLSBEE: Yes, I do.

HANNITY: Because corporations, we know, don't pay taxes. They pass the cost on to consumers, don't they?

GOOLSBEE: You're kind of -- you're kind of mixing a few things there. On the corporate rate, as you know, what they're actually talking about is cutting corporate taxes by a lot and paying for it by putting a national sales tax equivalent onto consumers. I have some problems with that. The 10 percent repatriation rate...

HANNITY: I didn't see the national sales tax aspect of it. Did you, Corey?

GOOLSBEE: They're not calling it a national sales tax, but...

LEWANDOWSKI: Look, Donald Trump...

GOOLSBEE: ... that's the corridor (ph) adjustment, they're calling it.


HANNITY: Never heard it.

LEWANDOWSKI: Donald Trump has never said -- look, Donald Trump has never said anything about a national sales tax, and what he said was...

GOOLSBEE: No, he's talking about a border adjustment.

LEWANDOWSKI: ... our country deserves to be competitive -- what he said was -- what he said is our country deserves to be competitive with all the other industrialized countries in the world. and we pay a higher marginal tax rate if you're a business than everybody else does. So let's put our economy on par or better than the others, so let's lower the corporate tax rate to 15 percent so we can be competitive again. What's wrong with America first?

GOOLSBEE: There's nothing wrong with lowering the corporate tax rate, if you pay for it. And we're going to see if he's willing to pay it.

HANNITY: Oh. We're going to get lectured on the economic council adviser that gave us more debt than 43 presidents before him combined?

GOOLSBEE: Cut the deficit in half, Sean.

HANNITY: Before him combined?

GOOLSBEE: Cut the deficit in half.

HANNITY: We're going to -- by the way, Corey, isn't this a much better experience than CNN? You got to admit it's much better.

LEWANDOWSKI: Well, the good news -- you know, look, it's not eight on one, which I appreciate.


HANNITY: No, it's actually two on one. It's me and you against him.

GOOLSBEE: That's right.


GOOLSBEE: We have a good time over here, Corey. You're going to like it.

HANNITY: All right, I will -- I want my steak dinner when you get to New York, Mr. Goolsbee. You owe me a steak dinner...


HANNITY: ... with wine.

GOOLSBEE: I owe you.

HANNITY: Yes, you do. Thank you. All right, and...

GOOLSBEE: All I got left on there is for a baked potato, though. You're not getting steak.


HANNITY: Corey, welcome back. It's good to see you.

And coming up -- President-elect Donald Trump's pick for secretary of defense, General James "mad dog" Mattis -- well, he joined him at the rally in North Carolina earlier tonight. Colonel Oliver North is here with reaction.

And also tonight...


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: President-elect Trump is many things. To his voters, he's a beloved figure. But one of the things that he is is a conspiracy theorist.


HANNITY: Corey's old friends over at CNN and the mainstream media once again attacking Donald Trump They're freaking out about fake news when they're fake news, and they were perfectly happy spreading all the lies told by the Obama administration. We'll give you the examples and more with Doug Schoen, Mercedes Schlapp and the Reverend Darrell Scott (ph) straight ahead.


TRUMP: You're going to see such a change. You're going to see such a change like you've never seen before. We're going to protect and help our veterans, believe me.



GEN. JAMES MATTIS, U.S. MARINE CORPS (RET.): I'm grateful for the opportunity to return to our troops, their families, the civilians of the Department of Defense because I know how committed they are and devoted they are to the defense of our country, the defense of our Constitution.  And with our allies strengthened, with our country strengthened, I look forward to being the civilian leader so long as the Congress gives me the waiver and the Senate votes to consent. Thank you very much.



HANNITY: Now, earlier tonight, retired Marine Corps general James "Mad Dog" Mattis -- he joined President-elect Donald Trump at his North Carolina thank you rally. Now, the president-elect -- he's picked Mattis to serve as his secretary of defense.

Here now with reaction, the host of "War Stories," Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North. You no mad dog Mattis, right?

OLIVER NORTH, "WAR STORIES" HOST: I do, indeed. I did not know him as "mad dog." I knew him as Lieutenant Mattis. He was one of my lieutenants.  I have known him for 43 years.

The president-elect could not have picked a better person to lead the sprawling five-sided wastebasket as James Mattis. He's going to be a great secretary of defense, Sean.

HANNITY: All right. So there's a 1947 law. Originally, it mandated that the secretary of defense be out of uniform 10 years. It was since amended to seven years. So the Republicans need to get a waiver. Now, people like...


HANNITY: ... Leon Panetta and I got this congressman here -- I guess his name is Senator -- I'm sorry, Seth Moulton of Massachusetts, they both have vouched for him, two solid Democrats. But Nancy Pelosi is against it.

Why would she be against that? Why is this law in place anyway at this point?

NORTH: Well, the law was put in place because there was concern in the aftermath of World War II that there were too many military people bumping around Washington. And it was very clearly intended to make sure there was, quote, "civilian control over the military."

Well, I point out to those who are critics that the civilian who in control of the U.S. military is the commander-in-chief, who is a civilian. And he recognizes the need to have someone who is both a warrior and who knows warriors and who knows wars in order to fix the problems at the Pentagon that are, quite frankly, astronomical.


NORTH: You cannot have found a better man to do this because he knows what needs to be done. He's not afraid to take the axe to bad things, and he's famous for asking, What if? When somebody gives him a briefing -- and I've watched this guy since he was a 2nd lieutenant in the United States Marine Corps -- he'll ask, What if? In other words, something the commander might not have thought of or one of the staff aides haven't thought of. And I watched him as a colonel. I watched him as a brigadier general, major general, lieutenant general. He was the commander of OIF-1. I watched him as he actually relieved a commander in the field during the fight all the way to Baghdad.

HANNITY: Even Leon...

NORTH: This is a very tough guy.

HANNITY: Leon Panetta said the law was arbitrary, the 10 years down to 7 years, and he was that was crafted in a different era, when generals had the singular role as warfighters, whereas todays generals have far more diverse roles.

Here's what I want to get into as it relates to the Trump doctrine because this is important. You fought in Vietnam. You have a couple of Purple Hearts fighting for your country. And we saw what happened, 58,000 people died in Vietnam, over 5,000 dead Iraq and Afghanistan. And all these wars get politicized. Americans -- we ask them to go fight, bleed and die.  They win bag and Mosul, Ramadi, Fallujah, Tikrit, and then ISIS -- a vacuum for them is created.

That's problematic for me, Colonel. We can't ask American men and women to do this and then pull their victory back, like we have now done twice in the modern era.

NORTH: Look, part of the problem is that the last several secretaries of defense have not been strategically minded. This man is a strategist. He is a diplomat. He is the kind of person who can use some very colorful language, we all know that. But he's a deep thinker.

HANNITY: Shocking.

NORTH: He's probably the best-read secretary of defense we've had perhaps since George Marshall.

And so what you're looking at is a president who knows he needs strategy, doesn't have one, and this is a person who can work very closely with the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Joe Dunford, the current chairman, was his lead regimental combat team commander going all the way from Kuwait to Baghdad,.

These guys are going to work together to formulate a strategy that this president will endorse as the commander-in-chief, that Congress will support with funding, and he's going to cut the legs off from all the folks who, quite frankly, didn't know what they've been doing out there for the last 15 years.

HANNITY: You know, I guess the last thing -- how do you see the Trump doctrine? Because he's saying he doesn't want to get entangled in these foreign conflicts anymore. I'm hoping we build the next generation of military equipment, where maybe we don't have to send men and women on the ground, banging on door after door after door in Baghdad looking for a bunch of terrorists willing to slaughter any American on a whim.

NORTH: Sure. Or gut (ph) and blown up by a VBID (INAUDIBLE)

HANNITY: Or an IED, whatever.

NORTH: Yes, all of that.

And so what you're looking at is that -- I believe a secretary of defense who's going to question, What if, every time some -- I'll give you one right now. There's nobody in this town thinking, what if on inaugural day, just like happened in Ronald Reagan's year, something happens in the Middle East? Now, in Ronald Reagan's case, the Ayatollah Khomeini decided, I'm going to give up the hostages.

What happens if Erdogan decides on inaugural day he's going to close Incirlik Airbase? I can assure you that it is one person, if no other in this town, that's already thought of what to do, and that's Jim Mattis.  That's the kind of person we need in that kind of job.

HANNITY: Agreed. Well said. I don't think he'll have a problem. Enough Democrats now are on record saying he deserves the waiver. And the president-elect deserves his cabinet, the people he trusts. Colonel North, safe home. Good to see you.

And coming up next tonight right here on "Hannity" --


BRIAN STELTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: President-elect Trump is many things.  To his voters he's a beloved figure, but one of the things he is is a conspiracy theorist.


HANNITY: Mainstream media, they can't help themselves, continuing their meltdown over so-called fake news. Remember these are the same liberal hypocrites that were promoting all the lies that were told by the Obama administration. We'll point out that hypocrisy next with Doug Schoen, Mercedes Schlapp, the Reverend Darrell Scott, all here with reaction.

And later tonight German Chancellor Angela Merkel comes out in favor of banning burkas in her country wherever legally possible. Robert Spencer, Imam Mohammad Elahi will be here to debate. Is there a clash of cultures?  That and more tonight on HANNITY.


HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." CNN's so-called journalist turned professional Trump hater Keith Olbermann wannabe Brian Stelter, he continues to bash on behalf of the Clinton news network, president-elect Trump, this time calling Trump a conspiracy theorist. Watch this.


STELTER: President-elect Trump is many things to his voters. He's a beloved figure. But one of the things he is is a conspiracy theorist.  He's also in a few different cases tweeted out links to clearly fake news stories. That hasn't happened in recent days. I would say it's been about a week since he tweeted something that was clearly false. But to see in this case Michael Flynn's son tweeting about "pizza-gate" in a very serious way goes to show that people in Trump's or in his aide's orbit do sometimes latch on to these outlandish theories.


HANNITY: So CNN and all these other so called journalists in the mainstream media are suddenly taking exception with the rise of fake news.  Where was their outrage when the Obama administration willfully manipulated and disseminated false information to the press? You might remember that top adviser Ben Rhodes actually bragged about exploiting reporters, telling New York Times magazine, quote, "The average reporter we talked to is 27 years old and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. They literally know nothing."

And of course who could forget about Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber boasting about lying to the stupid American people to get Obamacare passed.  Watch this.


JONATHAN GRUBER: This Bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies. OK, so it was written to do that.

In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you get a law which said healthy people are going to pay in, you made explicit that healthy people pat in and sick people get money, it would not have passed, OK. Just like people, the lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to get anything to pass.


HANNITY: Here with reaction, Fox News contributor Mercedes Schlapp. From the New Spirit Revival Center, we have the reverend Darrell Scott and Fox News contributor Doug Schoen. Joe Concha is the one that pointed this out to me in his column today, those two examples. They're great examples.  And I'm sitting here thinking that's fake news. CNN giving questions to Hillary, that creates fake news. Asking for DNC questions for Trump, that is fake news.

DOUG SCHOEN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. And, look, I have no problem with the proposition that the Obama administration disseminated what you call fake news, disinformation --

HANNITY: Propaganda.

SCHOEN: Propaganda, call it what you will. But I will say this, Donald Trump has proven with his presidency or as president-elect that he's created jobs, that he's saving jobs, and he's using the bully pulpit to make real news about real events with real people. My message to someone like Stelter -- cut it out, stop it, move on.

HANNITY: They can't help themselves. What, Mercedes?

MERCEDES SCHLAPP, WASHINGTON TIMES: They can't help themselves. You took the words out of my mouth, Sean. They simply can't. Many in the mainstream media have become the press relations department for the Obama administration and also for the Hillary campaign. How many times did we hear the stories of the reporters colluding with the Hillary campaign?  They would hand over these stories so that those communication advisers in the campaign would be able to edit. We don't necessarily see that happening on our side. So I think for Donald Trump what has been fascinating is that he's not afraid to take on the press. And one thing is that the press and many in the mainstream media, they don't even know how to handle Trump's approach in terms of saying, well, what do we do?

HANNITY: Mercedes, we know what they're doing. They're doubling down on stupid and they're doubling down -- the campaign is not ending for them.  They don't know they lost yet.

SCHOEN: It's over, Sean.

HANNITY: It's over.

SCHOEN: It's done.

HANNITY: It's done.

SCHLAPP: And they're focused on the fake news more so than trying to push forward fair news. That's where it's been lost. The idea of fair news in the media where they are just pushing a very slanted approach I think is what has been the result.

HANNITY: Pastor, I'm just guessing that you're going to give a lot -- you gave a lot of prayer, fasting and thanks this Thanksgiving. I know how invested you were in the campaign.

REV. DARRELL SCOTT, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, but you know what, nobody has been the victim of fake news more than president-elect Trump has. I mean, to be honest -- and we're not even talking about social media fake news that was disseminated by the Democratic Party. Right now according to fake news, Trump should be getting the boats together to ship all the black people back to Africa. And it's just funny that when it began to backfire on them when the same technique was used against the Dems, they started crying foul. But from the very beginning it was fake news item after fake news item about Donald Trump.

HANNITY: You know, Doug, so The New York Times, some guy at The New York Times apparently wants to do a story, what did I see that others didn't see. I saw 13 million more Americans on food stamps, 8 million more in poverty, the lowest labor participation rate since the '70s, worst home ownership rate in 51 years, a doubling of the debt, a failure in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Benghazi, Libya, China, and Russia. It wasn't that hard to see.

SCHOEN: It wasn't that hard to see.

HANNITY: And corruption and lies.

SCHOEN: And the polls themselves were increasingly close as the election approached. And basically it was a rigged game against Donald Trump. He spoke over the heads of the media. And now we're in, frankly, a different period. We should move beyond this to the real news and the real challenges we face.

HANNITY: Look at the news today. We've got a $50 billion investment, 50,000 jobs. I'll take it.

SCHOEN: And let's celebrate it as Americans, not Democrats, not Republicans, but as Americans who want our country to grow.

SCOTT: The big news outlets will probably take that and try to spin it negatively and make it as if that $50 billion investment and those 50,000 jobs are some type of mirage. They'll do whatever they can to undermine or speak derogatorily of it. But he hit a homerun today, he hit a big homerun today.

HANNITY: Yes. Last word, Mercedes?

SCHLAPP: And I think the media gets heartburn knowing he is being successful. And let's remember, he hasn't even been sworn in as president.  This is just the beginning of pushing forward a very active agenda, especially in the first 100 days.

HANNITY: Obama said what is he going to do, wave his magic wand?

SCHOEN: He did.

HANNITY: It's called the telephone.

SCHOEN: It's the bully pulpit. We're all Americans. We all should be proud of what he's accomplishing.

HANNITY: Good to see you all. Pastor, are you still brining me to the pulpit.

SCOTT: I'll be in New York on Monday and we're going to set a date.

HANNITY: All right, you come see me Monday. Come into the studio. You're booked for Monday.

SCHLAPP: Sean needs lots of prayers, OK. Sean needs lots of prayers.

HANNITY: Thanks a lot, Mercedes. I'm a pathetic lost cause. I agree, but it's true, it's true.

Coming up, German Chancellor Angela Merkel endorsing, banning burkas in her country wherever legally possible. Robert Spencer and Imam Mohammad Elahi are here tonight with reaction. That and more straight ahead on "Hannity."


HANNITY: Welcome back to HANNITY. German Chancellor Angela Merkel is now saying she supports banning burkas in her country, saying, quote, "wherever it's legally possible." Now, as we've been reporting Germany has seen a massive influx of refugees over the past several years.

Here now with reaction, the director of Jihad Watch, Robert Spencer, and from the Islamic House of Wisdom, Imam Mohammad Ali Elahi is with us.

Let me ask you about some countries where a lot of these immigrants are coming from, imam, and that is if you come from a country where men tell women how to dress, men tell women that they can't drive, men tell women whether they can go to work or school, men decide whether they can travel abroad and you believe that you can kill gays and lesbians for being gay and lesbian, and you can persecute Christians and Jews. If you come from that country and want to come to America, don't those values -- aren't those values obviously contradict the constitutional, democratic, republic values of this country? The answer is yes, right?

IMAM MOHAMMAD ELAHI, ISLAMIC HOUSE OF WISDOM: It does. The answer is yes.  But you know, Sean, people talk about Germany and other countries. Let us talk about our home. Put the order in our house first. In the last three days three ladies not very far from your station in Europe city, they were attacked and they did not wear burka. So it's not about burka. It is about racism and injustice and Islamophobia.

HANNITY: I condemn anybody who would lash out at somebody or make a judgment against somebody based on how they dress. But that's not my point. If America, which has very limited available, I'll call them slots, for people to come into the country, if you're coming from a country where you grew up under a culture and values that directly contradict ours, that is a clash of cultures. To me it's irreconcilable. If you come here -- if you come here thinking you can tell women how to dress, that is not going to fly here.

ELAHI: That is wrong. But which country are you talking about now? Which country?

HANNITY: Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Kuwait.

ELAHI: Tell your friend Trump why he called King Solomon as his first outreach?

HANNITY: You tell Trump. I'm not a messenger. Tell him yourself.

But Robert Spencer, you've been studying this. The bottom line is there is a clash of cultures. And America has to consider whether or not those people that we're bringing into this country are bringing those, let's say antiquated, insane values with them.

ROBERT SPENCER, JIHAD WATCH DIRECTOR: There is no doubt about it, Sean.  That's absolutely true and it's very important. The fact is that if there have been attacks against women wearing hijab that is reprehensible. But the real problem is attacks by Muslim supremacists against women who were not wearing hijabs, including in Canada, a young girl, she was murdered by her father and brother for not wearing a hijab just a few years ago. These has happened elsewhere in America and in Europe. And these are the kinds of values that are coming in where women --

HANNITY: You raise a good question. Imam?


ELAHI: We condemn, that is wrong.

HANNITY: Imam, Robert is bringing up a good point. You're asking me which countries treat women, gays, lesbians, Christians and Jews this way in the name of your religion. Let me get my question in. My question to you is, are you going to speak out and say sharia law as practiced in those countries is abusive to those groups, abusive to women? Is it abusive?

ELAHI: Of course. If you're talking about sharia law in Saudi Arabia, of course that is not sharia law. That is ISIS law.

HANNITY: What about Iran? Is Iran --


HANNITY: I have got videos of gays and lesbians being thrown off roofs in Iran. Is that equally abusive?

ELAHI: In Iran there is a democracy. The Jews and Christians are represented in parliament. They can change the laws.

HANNITY: So this is Sunni versus Shia. This isn't about what's right and wrong. It's what Iran does abuse towards women, gays and lesbians, yes or no.

ELAHI: There is no abuse toward women and gays in Iran. Show me the evidence. Show me.

HANNITY: You want to trash Sunnis but not the Shia.


ELAHI: No, no. It is about truth. It is about justice. I'm talking about justice. I'm talking about justice.

HANNITY: Is Iran the number one state sponsor --

ELAHI: Show me the evidence where in Iran --

HANNITY: Imam, is Iran the number one state sponsor of terror in the world?

ELAHI: That is your version. That is your version.

HANNITY: I'm asking you. Is Iran a state sponsor of terror, yes or no?

ELAHI: I don't believe so. I don't believe so.

HANNITY: Great. Robert, I think we got to the bottom of it.

SPENCER: Iran is the leading state sponsor of terror. That is a matter of demonstrable fact. And it supports Hezbollah, Hamas, the Taliban, Al Qaeda. Any jihad there is Iran is involved in some way or another.

ELAHI: Are you talking about Iran or Persia? Are you talking about German or are you talking about Iran now?


HANNITY: Coming up, we need your help with a very important "Question of the Day."


HANNITY: Time for our "Question of the Day." Should the main stream media stop whining about fake news considering their fake news? We want you to go to @SeanHannity on Twitter, go to our Facebook page, and we want to hear your comments as always.

But that's all the time we have left this evening. Hope you'll set your DVR so you never miss an episode. We'll see you back here tomorrow night.  Thanks for being with us.

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