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Does Biden stand a chance in 2020 after Democratic debate?

'The Daily Briefing' host Dana Perino reacts to the second night of Democratic presidential debates on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.'

This is a rush transcript from "Tucker Carlson Tonight," June 28, 2019. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

TUCKER CARLSON, HOST: Well, good evening and welcome to “Tucker Carlson Tonight.” This is our last day in Kyoto, Japan. We're having an interview with the President after the show. We will bring you the whole thing on Monday. We've been following closely what's happening back in the homeland in the U.S.

Last night of course, marked the second straight Democratic primary debate. A lot of what passes for heavy hitters on the left were in attendance. Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg, Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders. On the question of immigration at least, they all seemed in total agreement.

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CARLSON: Sorry for the tape mixed up there. That was the party's youth wing, Antifa making pretty much the same point. But watch Father Pete Buttigieg -- and this is the right tape -- and Buttigieg, keep in mind is not only a mayor and a presidential candidate, but he's a self-described moral leader like Mahatma Gandhi or Jackson Browne. Watch him explain it's just wrong, morally wrong, to maintain international borders.

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PETE BUTTIGIEG, D-IND., MAYOR, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: That criminalization, that is the basis for family separation, you do away with that, it's no longer possible. Of course, it wouldn't be possible anyway, in my presidency, because it is dead wrong.

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CARLSON: Got that? Sneaking into someone else's country can never be a crime. It doesn't matter if you're a Chinese spy, an MS13 gang member, a drug mule with 20 kilos of heroin on your back. It doesn't matter if you're a human trafficker with a stable of child prostitutes. You are welcome here. We won't judge you.

In fact, we will gladly pay for your comprehensive medical care, whatever it takes. That's how much we hate ourselves. Watch.

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SAVANNAH GUTHRIE, NBC NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants?

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CARLSON: Got that Mr. and Mrs. American, you may be going broke trying to pay for your own family's healthcare and many of you are, by the way, but now you get to pay for free healthcare for the rest of the whole world. Anyone who ignores our laws and sneaks in, you owe them benefits the second they get here. Got that, racist?

If you don't like it, tough. The Democratic Party plans to disarm you. So you're powerless. But Congressman Eric Swalwell promised to seize every semiautomatic rifle in this country.

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REP. ERIC SWALWELL, D-CALIF., PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm the only candidate on this stage calling for a ban and buyback of every single assault weapon in America.

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CARLSON: That's an actually actual Member of Congress. But wait, doesn't the Constitution and a lot of these people are lawyer, so ask them this? Doesn't the Constitution guarantee your right to keep and bear arms? Well, yes, the document says that. But once Bernie Sanders gets finished moving conservatives off Supreme Court, the left can do whatever it wants. Watch him explain.

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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS, I-VT, D-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I do not believe in packing the Court. We've got a terrible five four majority conservative court right now. But I do believe that constitutionally, we have the power to rotate judges to other courts and that brings in new blood into the Supreme Court.

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CARLSON: Bernie Sanders talking about new blood, it's all so great. But keep in mind, that's not court packing. No, not even close. It's court rotating. And that means getting rid of judges that Bernie Sanders doesn't like, and installing judges who agree with Bernie Sanders. And that's totally different.

The other candidates seemed on board with that or in any case, they were too busy attacking Joe Biden to notice what the old guy from Vermont was saying.

There was a lot to hit Biden on. Biden's sex, his skin color, his sexual orientation. They're all sins against the religion of wokeness. Plus, as Congressman Eric Swalwell helpfully pointed out, Joe Biden is really, really old.

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SWALWELL: I was six years old when a presidential candidate came to the California Democratic Convention and said, "It's time to pass the torch to a new generation of Americans." That candidate was then Senator Joe Biden.

Joe Biden was right when he said it was time to pass the torch to a new generation of Americans 32 years ago, he is still right today. If we're going to solve the issues of our nation, pass the torch. If we're going to solve the issues of climate chaos, pass the torch.

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CARLSON: Got that old man? Joe Biden is a musty antique who ought to be eating soft food in Florida somewhere. And you know what else? He is a racist. A bitter elderly bigot. He is probably sitting in his den right now watching "Birth of a Nation" drinking Schlitz. Kamala Harris made that clear.

She started out by saying that Joe Biden is not a racist, meaning of course, he is definitely a racist.

SEN. KAMALA HARRIS, D-CALIF., PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm going to now direct this at Vice President Biden. I do not believe you are a racist, but you also work with them to oppose busing.

And, you know, there was a little girl in California, who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bused to school every day, and that little girl was me.

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CARLSON: Everything about that is fake. It's hard to imagine what a disingenuous paragraph -- where to begin. I mean, Kamala Harris implies that California schools were segregated in the 1970s? They were not. Some of us were there at the time.

Harris herself was not a Civil Rights hero, her father was literally a Stanford Economics Professor. She went to high school in Montreal, Canada. She was a child of privilege, if there ever was one.

As for forced busing, it's amazing that anybody, particularly any Democrat would defend it. Busing didn't work. It was an abject failure. Guess who hated it? Black families. It took black kids out of their neighborhoods, and it patronized them. It didn't raise anybody's scores in the end, busing didn't work. Honest people on the left admit that.

Brookings admitted that. The only people who like busing then and now are rich liberals, the ones totally insulated from the effects of their failed and stupid social policy.

Everyone else in this country, 90 percent of Americans, according to Gallup, polling at the height of busing, and that's 90 percent of both black and white Americans thought busing was awful. So good call Democrats. Run on that. More busing. Joe Biden is a racist.

Here's our nominee Kamala Harris, listen to her explain why she is a very good person, and you're morally flawed. Good call. That'll definitely work, just like it did with Hillary Clinton last time. Morons.

Lisa Boothe is a senior fellow At Independent Women's Voice and she joins us tonight. These people -- these people are unbelievable.

LISA BOOTHE, CONTRIBUTOR: Do I get hazard pay?

CARLSON: So Joe Biden is a racist now?

BOOTHE: Do I get hazard pay for the past two nights watching the debate? Listen, Tucker, here's the thing. You had would mentioned this earlier. I do -- so Senator Harris says, look, I don't think you're a racist. But let me point out all these reasons why I actually do think you're a racist.

So you know, a little bit interesting strategy there, and clearly this was calculated, right? So she had a tweet that she put up with a picture of her as a little girl saying that little girl was me. They're selling t- shirts now as well. So clearly, this was a thought out calculation by the campaign.

But I do think Vice President Biden is vulnerable. And here's the thing, there's been this air of inevitability with him. He has been ahead in the polls because of name ID. Also this perceived electability somewhat like Hillary Clinton, right?

There's this air of inevitability with her in the Democratic establishment, and I think that's dangerous. Because anyone who watched are dangerous for Democrats, because anyone who watched last night's debate cannot objectively say that Vice President Biden is a strong candidate. He did not have a good night. He was not prepared for these attacks. He was not sharp. And quite frankly, he even gave up in the middle of trying to respond to Senator Harris's attacks.

CARLSON: He just gave up?

BOOTHE: Yes, I mean, did you see, he was talking, and then he said, "I think we're out of time." I mean, you don't do that. I mean, if you're vehemently defending your record, you don't just say, you know what, whatever, it's -- you know, we're running out of time, I'm tired, you know, whatever. That's basically what happened.

And he had a tough time getting his words out. He just didn't look sharp. And I actually think the most potent line of attack was from Eric Swalwell, which I hate to give him any credit at all.

But his line of attack on the generational one, right, because I think the biggest challenge for Vice President Biden is we've seen these big change elections with the previous elections, right? So Americans have been asking for change.

And Vice President Biden by the product of him being part of the previous administration, he is going to have to continue to look back and explain his record; continue to look back, and it's going to be difficult for him to look forward.

And so I think that is a vulnerability for Vice President Biden when he is on the debate stage, particularly with some of these younger candidates who are making the case for the future.

So I think that's a vulnerability for Vice President Biden, in addition to -- I just think being a terrible candidate personally.

CARLSON: Yes. You get -- you know, you run out of energy. At 50, I feel too old to run for President.

BOOTHE: I'm 34, and I'm exhausted. Also, 34 and I mess up words all the time. But I'm also not running to be Commander-in-Chief, so I feel like there's a little higher standard, so --

CARLSON: There might be.

BOOTHE: I mean, I have a --

CARLSON: Lisa, great to see you tonight. Thank you.

BOOTHE: Thanks, Tucker.

CARLSON: Dana Perino host "The Daily Briefing" with Dana Perino. We love having her on. She joins us again for the second night in a row. So, Dana, this is the part in the show where I just take a moment to brag about how smart I am and how prescient my predictions were. But it was very -- not, it's untrue.

I'm rarely right in my predictions, but I did call Joe Biden. It was very obvious to me that the Democratic Party could never nominate an elderly white man as its nominee. I mean, they -- how could you do that? Do you think Biden is over after last night?

DANA PERINO, HOST: Well, I think that he has lost a little bit of momentum. But let me step back and tell you that I think it's a little too early to say that because there are nine debates and 31 weeks to go before the first votes are cast in Iowa. So we have a long way to go?

The other thing is, I thought it was very interesting reading about a polling -- a live poll that was taken in Iowa with undecided Democrats and they had a group of African-Americans, a group of non-educated and college educated and married and I meant that at all of these different groups.

What was interesting is those people are not on Twitter, okay? They're just watching, and they're telling you they're dialing it up or dialing it down whether they like it, or they don't like it.

Very interesting to me is that when Kamala Harris tore into Joe Biden, the numbers for Kamala Harris went way up. But then when Biden responded, his numbers went way up, too with African-Americans.

So I think it's too early to say what will ultimately happen to him. And I do think that somebody like a Michelle Goldberg at "The New York Times" who has -- she very much wants a Democrat to win, believe me, she does. But she has always felt that Biden is just not going to be there for them at the end, because he is not going to be able to have the new energy.

And I remember President Bush talking about elections, and that, especially the Democrats, they like to look forward. They like new and what Biden did today, when he tried to clean up his debate is he went right back to looking at Obama and Biden and hanging on to that, and not looking forward. So that probably will hurt him in the long run.

CARLSON: But I would say I mean, Kamala Harris -- I agree with everything you said, but Kamala Harris also looked back almost 50 years at school busing, forced busing, which is remarkable to me, considering there's never been any support among black families in this country, nor among white families for forced to busing. It didn't serve anybody. Nobody liked it.

Was there -- have you ever seen a poll that showed majority support for forced busing among African-Americans? We're going to take your kids and bring them across town so they can go to school with white kids and you should feel grateful for that. Well, there's no poll that shows that, is there?

PERINO: Well, that -- no, there's not. And you know, I don't really talk about this too much, though, I did write about it in my book. Denver, Colorado was one of the first cities in the country to try to integrate the schools through busing. That's where I lived.

And when from first -- kindergarten to third grade, I walked three blocks to school. But when I went into the fourth grade, I had to be bused. It took about an hour to get to the school. I was one of only five white children there. Nobody was prepared to handle just the dynamics. All that happened, it was a really, really tough two years.

And my parents reluctantly left the city, they were very much for integration of the schools. But the way that that was handled did not serve -- it didn't serve me well.

Now, somebody like Robert Smith, who is the billionaire who just paid off all the student loans in Morehouse College. He said in his speech that day, that busing really benefited him. And that's great.

But we are still today talking about integration of schools. That is actually the debate that the Democrats are now going to have because the question is going to be, "Do you now think busing is a good idea?" And maybe we need to have that discussion.

But it was kind of strange to look back on that. But look, here's the other thing --

CARLSON: Well, it's bizarre.

PERINO: They had an opportunity to go after him, and he did it.

CARLSON: Kamala Harris grew up in a privileged family. He went to high school in Montreal, Canada. So for her to be lecturing about busing, again, which African-Americans have never supported is like insane. And the press just sort of nods, "oh, okay." I don't know, it's rather painful watching it. It's too dishonest.

PERINO: Yeah. Well, and I'll say you have a press narrative where now you see that the press wants Biden to fail. But the other person we haven't talked about at all is the person who I think completely lost the debate is Bernie Sanders. No one is talking about him today.

CARLSON: I know, you're right.

PERINO: No one. And so that to me is just something to watch for the next month.

CARLSON: Or ever again. No, it's such a good point. You're full of good points. The Great Dana Perino. Thank you, Dana.

PERINO: Bye.

CARLSON: Good to see you. A big theme at the debate last night, children in cages, every Democrat lined up to denounce children in cages and to promise that they're going to get rid of children in cages as part of a wider effort to eliminate border security entirely. Watch this.

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HARRIS: I will release children from cages.

GOV. JOHN HICKENLOOPER, D-COLO., PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Put them in cages.

BUTTIGIEG: Putting children in cages.

JOE BIDEN, D-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The Justice Department saying children in cages do not need a bed.

SWALWELL: Cage a child.

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CARLSON: So, just so you understand it, they're telling you that the President is sending out his agents into foreign countries to abduct, to kidnap children and put them in cages. But why is he doing that? Of course, he is not doing that. This is nuts.

You really have to be like a "New Yorker" subscriber to believe something that's stupid.

In fact, the Border Patrol and I.C.E. are holding children because the crisis at the border -- now, why do we have a crisis at the border? Because Washington created it by refusing to secure the border or deport anyone who comes here illegally. That's why. But don't take our word for it.

Obama's Secretary at DHS, Jeh Johnson said it out loud last year. Watch this.

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CHRIS WALLACE, ANCHOR: So these pictures that we're putting up from 2014 show pictures of unaccompanied minors in, in effect jail situations. Whereas you look back on that, did you handle it so well?

JEH JOHNSON, FORMER DHS SECERTARY: I freely admit, it was controversial. We believed it was necessary at the time. I still believe it is necessary to maintain a certain capability for families.

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CARLSON: So for those of you keeping score at home, in 2014, it was necessary putting children in cages, but in 2019, it's Nazism. It's that simple.

Speaking of simple -- simpletons -- Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio- Cortez who is a simpleton was asked on CNN, why she didn't call Obama a Nazi for running concentration camps just three years ago. Her answer? "I don't know. I was too busy waiting tables."

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JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR: So did you call them concentration camps at the time when Obama was President?

REP. ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ, D-N.Y.: Well, at the time I was working in a restaurant.

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CARLSON: Well, it raises an important philosophical question. If President Obama sets up a concentration camp in the forest and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is too busy waiting tables to hear about it, did the concentration camp exist? And the answer, of course is, "No, it didn't." Because nothing is actually bad until one of our political opponents does it. That's the rule.

Well, President Trump is in Japan for the G20 Summit. After I interview with him, he will be traveling to South Korea. Now, the President says he is willing to go to the DMZ, the demilitarized zone for an impromptu Summit with North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un. The President just tweeted this and we're quoting, "After some very important meetings, including my meeting with President Xi of China, I'll be leaving Japan for South Korea with President Moon. While there, if Chairman Kim of North Korea agrees to this, I would meet him at the border at the DMZ just to shake his hand and say hello." End quote.

According to "The New York Times" the President says he thought up the idea of a DMZ meeting literally this morning. The President's last Summit with Kim Jong-un in Vietnam in February was a failure, but this meeting could restart the administration's efforts to reach some kind of nuclear deal with the dictatorship on the Korean Peninsula.

We're here in Japan, we will continue to follow the developments of course, right across the water in real-time.

Kamala Harris was the most successful at pandering to identity politics last night, it was nauseating, but maybe it was effective. Predictively, the press loved it. We will tell you how much they loved it after the break.

But first, we crammed a lot into our final day in Japan, which is a cool country by the way. The most widespread religion here is Buddhism because we visited one of the country's most famous temples.

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CARLSON: So we're in downtown Kyoto standing in front of what appears to be a temple. Don't know exactly what it is, but I'm pointing it out because this is the signature architectural style of the city. Obviously, traditional Japanese architecture.

It is one of the few big cities in Japan that wasn't destroyed during the Second World War, so there's a lot of this. I should also note that it's raining. This is monsoon season. In fact, there's a monsoon brewing right now, it should be here within hours. It's in the East China Sea right now near Okinawa.

But essentially, at this time of the year, it rains nonstop, but it doesn't seem to have any effect on the people of Kyoto who go about their businesses as if it's not raining. So we're doing the same.

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CARLSON: Welcome back. We are in Kyoto still, a great place. Even before Thursday night's debate, though, it was pretty obvious the media would never let Joe Biden be declared the winner. That's not an endorsement of Biden, by the way, he's an appalling windbag. But he's not evil -- maybe like some other people think -- for President.

But anyway, the press decided it had to be somebody else and the person they chose probably in advance -- so it was a conspiracy of similar intent -- was California Senator Kamala Harris. They didn't care about her policies. She doesn't have any policies. They care about her background and that makes her in the words of Van Jones, a star -- star.

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VAN JONES, CNN ANCHOR: Kamala Harris had a moment that was two hours long.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right.

JONES: I mean, a star was born.

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CARLSON: it doesn't matter how many dumb people you put at a desk. It's not going to be compelling television. I don't know why they keep programming their shows like that. It's not working. Obviously, Jeff Zucker, what a genius.

After the debate, by the way, on the other channel, Chris Matthews -- speaking of blowhards -- lobbed this bizarre question to Kamala Harris. Given how evil they are, how have you been able to avoid hating white people for being white? Watch this.

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CHRIS MATTHEWS, MSNBC HOST: And this is really important to people of all backgrounds and ethnicities -- I don't like the word race -- ethnicities.

HARRIS: Right.

MATTHEWS: How did you come out of that and not have hatred towards white people generally?

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CARLSON: Good question, Chris Matthews. Joe Concha writes about media for "The Hill." He watches a lot of television. Imagine his monthly Xanax bill. Joe Concha, it is great to see you.

JOE CONCHA, MEDIA REPORTER, THE HILL: You as well.

CARLSON: I can't believe you have to watch that stuff. What's that like?

CONCHA: Oh, well, every day, there is something to write about, Tucker, that's for sure. But a star is born, I thought that was Lady Gaga and Barbra Streisand. I like Gaga myself a little bit better in those situations.

But to your point where you're saying before around the media not wanting Biden to win, yes, you're exactly right. He is everything that was embodied by Hillary Clinton, which Lisa Boothe pointed out before -- kinder, gentler. He doesn't do tough interviews. Risk adverse, white, boring. That doesn't do a lot for ratings and clicks.

Kamala Harris on the other hand could be a historic figure. She could be the female Barack Obama, the first female President and a top prosecutor who is a street fighter like Trump, so she's going to give you the big sound bites like Trump will. So yes, as far as what media is rooting for, I thought it might have been Buttie for a while, but he's almost too cerebral for our current media climate.

Kamala Harris clearly is the choice here, because obviously she would be the most compelling matchup from an infotainment perspective, as you said, policy, what's that? At least realistic policy. Infotainment, Kamala Harris fits the bill.

CARLSON: But I mean, Pete Buttigieg raises a kind of interesting question. I mean, Pete Buttigieg is a deeply good person. He's made that point a lot. He's an incredibly religious person. Everyone who doesn't agree with Pete Buttigieg is despised by God, he has made that point, too.

Is someone as holy as Pete Buttigieg, kind of rate -- almost like the Buddha, is it appropriate for us to look him directly in the face? Much less vote for him? Can he be in something as filthy as temporal politics when he is such a good person, Joe Concha?

CONCHA; I'm not sure, Tucker, that we're going to ever be faced with that choice at least to him being in the general election, because I don't think he had a very good debate last night.

And you know, if the bumper sticker is, "I can do for America what I've done for South Bend," then he is going to have a lot of trouble winning.

So yes, he has had a tough couple weeks because he actually has to defend his policy. But can I ask you a question? When did Joe Biden become racist? Because in 2008, I'm pretty sure that he was the vice presidential candidate with the first African-American President? At least, he was going in that direction, right? And there was no scrutiny whatsoever in 2008, around this horrible record that he apparently has. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

CARLSON: I was thinking of this this morning, actually, when I woke up because I covered that race. And I'll never forget watching Barack Obama who was quite an accomplished race baiter attack Bill and Hillary Clinton you'll remember as racists during the South Carolina primary. Joe Biden was the beneficiary of those attacks. And now of course, he is the object of those attacks. He's the victim of those attacks. There is a kind of cosmic justice here wouldn't you say?

CONCHA: I think I've lost --

CARLSON: Let me ask my question if there's a cosmic justice here?

CONCHA: Oh, no, no, that's fine. By the way, enjoy monsoon season. We're happy to have that here in --

CARLSON: My favorite kind of question, a rhetorical one.

CONCHA: Now enjoy monsoon season. I couldn't quite hear you, you went out on me for a second. But at least in Jersey, that was all of our spring, so we're used to it now. I'm laughing at you.

CARLSON: Amen. Joe Concha, good to see you. Thank you.

CONCHA: All right. Good to see you. Thank you.

CARLSON: A lot of bizarre things going on in the Democratic Party right now. Individual Democrats racing leftward is an effort to win the nomination, but a year from now, will the last person standing have any hope of beating the incumbent President? That's the question we'll debate after the break.

We're coming to you live from the Suiran Hotel in Kyoto, right along the beautiful Hozu River. But first, Japan is justly famous for its technology. You should see the toilets here. Amazing. There's a microchip in every one. But there's one part of life the Japanese refuse to move beyond the medieval period.

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CARLSON: Okay, Japan is a famously advanced country. It's a Marvel actually of technology for the most part, but they have steadfastly resisted the fork and instead, use chopsticks.

So we're in a chopstick store right now. This is Takashi, who is a chopstick expert. Show us your highest and your most expensive chopsticks. A thousand dollar chopsticks.

Imagine how the rice tastes with those. Thank you very much.

TAKASHI: Thank you.

CARLSON: Thank you.

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CARLSON: Welcome back to Kyoto. As soon as we get off the air here, we will be going down to Osaka to interview the President at the G20 Summit. That'll be airing Monday.

Every Democratic candidate who is competing to see who can reject America the most thoroughly. One of the easiest ways of course is to refuse to speak America's language.

Both Beto O'Rourke and Cory Booker, two of the most shameless people running for President delivered debate answers in broken Spanish on Wednesday.

So on Thursday, the country's least competent Mayor decided his campaign would get a boost by doing the same. Bill de Blasio not his real name, by the way, visited the striking airport workers in Miami and delivered what he thought were some rousing words in Spanish. Here's what he said.

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MAYOR BILL DE BLASIO, D-N.Y., PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE (Speaking in Spanish through translator): Until victory, always.

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CARLSON: Viva La Revolution. Just one problem. Those words were the motto of Che Guevara, head of the most violent faction within the Cuban Revolution in 1959. Like other clueless rich liberals, de Blasio loves Che, he has got the t-shirt. He never had to face the consequences of what Che did, but in Florida, hundreds of thousands of Floridians are refugees from Che's Cuba. That's the country where Che helped Fidel Castro impose a communist dictatorship. Che himself executed more than a hundred people shooting them in the face with pistols while running lockup on a prison.

According to one account, he personally shot a 14-year-old boy. He is de Blasio's hero.

A few Floridians had family members were murdered by Che. So de Blasio you had to issue a hasty apology, but do you think he had learned anything? Has he ever learned anything ever? Of course not. Viva La Revolution. Right. Good work, Bill.

Well, barely a decade ago, then Senator Barack Obama was talking about the importance of securing the border to protect America's workers. Now his own party has given up on him.

On Thursday night, Democrats ripped each other in a battle to be as left wing as possible. At least one of the party's supporters was disheartened by that.

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JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC HOST: Last night was a disaster for the Democratic Party. My only hope is people were not watching.

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CARLSON: So eventually, no matter how wacky they get, one of these Democrats is going to win the nomination. But after that happens, will that person be able to beat the incumbent President? Which is of course the whole point of the Democrats.

Luis Miranda is a former Democratic Party spokesman. He joins us tonight. Luis, good to see you.

LUIS MIRANDA, FORMER DEMOCRATIC PARTY SPOKESMAN: Hey, good to see you, Tucker.

CARLSON: Whatever you think of the Democratic Party, I mean, I think most Americans think we need a vibrant two party system. And so you don't ever want to see even the party you disagree with go completely crazy. How big is the constituency in America for opening the borders, decriminalizing illegal entry, and then offering free healthcare to everyone who arrives? How many Americans support that would you say?

MIRANDA: Well, I think look, I think this is one of the problems with these debate formats is that the whole raise your hand if you do this, or that doesn't allow for a lot of nuance for a lot of discussion about what you're actually talking about. And it's really a "gotcha" style of debate politics, so I'm going to call fake news on that one, and say that what we actually need is a substantive discussion about how these issues actually intersect.

And when you have a debate stage with 10 people on it, it doesn't lend itself to the kind of discussion that you really dream about that.

CARLSON: But look, I'm not here to defend NBC News or the hack job they did at the debate. But the question was pretty simple. Would your universal healthcare program, the one that they're each proposing, would it include undocumented aliens? People who are here illegally, and every person raised his hand. That is a pretty straightforward question. That's crazy. And nobody supports that we can't afford it and it is so far outside the possible.

MIRANDA: And it was something that changed over the last few years.

CARLSON: Yes.

MIRANDA: And it was a strange change over the last years.

CARLSON: So that's a problem, isn't it?

MIRANDA: But it is a recognition -- I think it is a recognition and Pete Buttigieg tried to talk about this a little bit. The fact that there is a significant strain on the cost of healthcare already, because people who don't have access to healthcare whether they're undocumented or not, are going to emergency rooms, instead of going to regular healthcare providers and that creates a major strain on the system.

So you do have to address the cost on some end, because you're going to pay for it one way or the other. I think the issue that really needs to be dealt with is how do you regularize the immigration system so that you're not having a large flow of undocumented population and that the people who are coming have an opportunity to legalize.

CARLSON: Okay, hold on. You're arguing -- just to be clear, you are arguing that it's cheaper, you're saying as a matter of cost, it's cheaper to offer full government backed healthcare, which includes, you know, a whole massive range of elective options for healthcare. It's cheaper to provide that to noncitizens breaking our immigration law than it is to treat them in emergency rooms. Is that what you're saying?

MIRANDA: Well, there is a significant cost in emergency rooms, but I'm not running for President, Tucker. So I'm not here to defend any of the candidate's specific plans.

CARLSON: No, I am just saying like, this is not a small thing. Hold on. This is not a small thing. This is a big thing.

MIRANDA: But I am not defending their plans. It is not a small thing, it's a huge cost and it does need to be addressed in a different way. But that's why Pete Buttigieg was trying to broaden out this conversation beyond raising your hand with the "gotcha" question.

CARLSON: Can you get elected saying that?

MIRANDA: I think it's not what we should be focusing on. I think where Joe Scarborough was talking about that this was a disaster for the Democratic Party. He was talking about what he perceived as infighting. He wasn't talking about that one question, but I think he is wrong there too, because by all accounts, we're having primaries to select a Democratic nominee and they need to sells us out the differences. They need to go at each other. And they need to elevate why they think they're a better candidate than the other. So you need a healthy debate.

CARLSON: Amen.

MIRANDA: If they're all just singing "Kumbaya" on that stage and talking about Donald Trump, that's not what the American people want to hear either.

CARLSON: I totally agree with you. I think that's it. Absolutely fair and true and smart point. The healthcare stuff will kill you though. Luis, great to see you.

MIRANDA: It's good to see you, too, Tucker. Enjoy the trip.

CARLSON: Thank you. "Toy Story 4" is a big hit at the movie theaters right now. But some reviewers are mad because the children's film isn't taking woke positions on toys. Hard to believe that's real, but it is, we've got details for you.

We are still live from Kyoto, Japan. That's why I am wielding chopsticks ahead of our one-on-one interview with the President. Today though, we seize the opportunity to go inside one of Japan's world famous seafood kitchens. Here's what we found.

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CARLSON: So these are the biggest oysters I've ever seen. We've sidled up to this man who is obviously an aged oyster expert. He does not speak English.

I think, it's maybe too big for me. That oyster tool looks handmade. It's like the perfect Japanese juxtaposition most high tech country in the world and yet, they use handmade medieval tools to open their oysters.

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CARLSON: Welcome back to Kyoto, Japan. House Intel Committee Chairman Adam Schiff seems to be the last famous Democrat who is not running for President. Even he is smarter than that, but he is still finding ways to travel and enjoy himself and have you pay for it.

Last night, Schiff and four of his Democratic colleagues flew to Copenhagen, Denmark aboard a specially chartered taxpayer funded military jet. I guess there are no commercial flights to Copenhagen.

Are they conducting secret diplomatic negotiations? Visiting the troops? Doing anything worthy at all? No. Schiff is going on a week-long vacation in Scandinavia. He is delivering a speech at something called a Pro- Democracy Conference, presumably representing the anti-democracy side, then it's off to a cocktail reception to Saturday happy hour and finally trips to Finland and Norway to the least diverse countries in the world.

Kind of weird if you're Adam Schiff and you're Mr. Sensitive Progressive guy, why aren't you in Congo? What are you doing in Norway? Finland? It's appalling and why are you making us pay for it? Why don't you answer the question Mr. Schiff? He never will.

Well, "Toy Story 4" on a happier note came out last weekend. The movie has made a ton of money and got good reviews, but some people are mad about it. Why? Because despite the fact the movie features a dinosaur, a slinky dog, a talking Mr. Potato Head, it's not diverse enough. That sounds pretty diverse.

Film critic Stella Duffy -- that's a real name -- says the film needed more non-white toys, also more disabled toys. She also blasted the love story for being quote, "hetero normative," whatever that is.

Jason Nichols is a Professor of African-American Studies at the University of Maryland, and he joins us tonight. Professor, I can't keep a straight face.

JASON NICHOLS, PROFESSOR OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDIES, UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND: Konichiwa, Tucker.

CARLSON: Tell me what -- konichiwa -- what is a non-white toy?

NICHOLS: I had to do that in the spirit of the debates. Well, of course, there are non-white toys and I understand the woman's sentiment. I think that she's trying to make a point about having black kids and brown kids see themselves reflected in their heroes and in the films that they watch. And even more importantly, or possibly, at least equally importantly, white kids need to see black kids or black characters as heroes. That's one of the ways we'll move forward as a society.

Because for a lot of white kids, that will be the only black character or person that ever stepped foot in their house.

However, I think that this is misguided. I think that, you know, I'm an economic nationalist, I think if we want to see certain images in films, we have to start making our own films.

Hollywood is made up of followers. They follow trends. They follow what people are doing outside of Hollywood, and then they coopt it. We've got to start going the Marcus Garvey route, or even the Tyler Perry route and start making our own films with the images that we want to see.

CARLSON: But maybe we're looking at this -- I mean, I guess I would say toys just to restate are not real. So they actually don't have races in the first place. They are inanimate objects made of cloth or in this case of pixels, so they're not real.

NICHOLS: Well, Buzz Lightyear, you don't think he is -- Buzz Lightyear doesn't have a race?

CARLSON: No. He seems a little fake to me. No, he seems post racial, I think it's fair to say. And then leaving aside the point of like, why do we still have film critics and like, maybe she should get a real job? Isn't it backwards? I mean, don't you succeed by creating, you know, viable businesses or creating great works of art or creating something?

The way to get people to succeed is not necessarily by having them see characters who look like them, but by encouraging them to, you know, work hard and make good choices. Isn't that more effective?

NICHOLS: Isn't that the point of "Toy Story"? Like, doesn't it have all of those good themes? Isn't that why we have our kids watch certain movies and read certain books, because it will encourage them to do those good things. And if they see themselves reflected in that, they will, you know, have a positive self-image. And also those people who don't see those images every day will start to see everyone as a human being.

So I actually understood where she is coming from.

CARLSON: But wait a second. Wait a second. Look, I'm in Japan right now, where surveys of self-esteem show very low. And this is a country of very high achievement. There's no correlation between self-esteem and achievement. The better -- the more impressive you think you are, the less impressive you likely are, right?

NICHOLS: See, again, I would disagree with that. And one person I'll hold up is Donald Trump. He sees himself really amazingly. He thinks he is handsome. He thinks he is smart. And he's been relatively successful depending --

CARLSON: And he became President.

NICHOLS: Yes, depending on your measure. So I think that a positive self- image, you know, if you are hopeless --

CARLSON: Okay, you probably got me on that one. All right.

NICHOLS: You know, if you're nihilistic then you're not going to succeed.

CARLSON: Because it's Friday, I will concede defeat on that one point about the President of the United States. Great to see you, Professor.

NICHOLS: Hey, great to see you. We miss you here in the swamp.

CARLSON: I'll be back. Oh, it's Friday. You know what time it is, time for "Dan Bongino's News Explosion." Our favorite former Secret Service agent will be here with the top stories of this crazy news week.

Plus Marianne Williamson was the breakout star of the Democratic debate last night. You couldn't turn away, could you? Who is she and what reality does she live in? We will try to figure it out after the break.

We will be sad to leave Japan this weekend, but we won't be leaving empty handed. Japan is a country of superb craftsmen. We visited one of the best today. Watch.

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CARLSON: I want to get a knife for my brother, Buckley. I think I'm going to get that one. That's really sharp. That will just take your fingers right off. Can I get this engraved with my brother's initials? That's amazing. Thank you.

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CARLSON: It's already Saturday here in Japan, but nothing, literally nothing can stop the Friday Dan Bongino News Explosion, our favorite New York cop, Secret Service agent here to rank the top stories at this remarkable week. Dan Bongino joins us tonight. Hey, Dan,

DAN BONGINO, CONTRIBUTOR: I just want you to know this is hardcore dedication, you doing this from Japan, Tucker. That's how much I love you, buddy. So let me get to it.

By the way, I saw your trip, it was great. The boats, the trains. It was fantastic. I couldn't take my eyes off it. I did feel bad for you, it looks like you got a little wet there. All right. Enough small talk for me. Let's get right to it. Story number three, AOC and one of the more bizarre moves I've ever seen is joining a protest against beds for migrant children.

Listen, Tucker, regardless of your position on immigration, no one wants to see kids sleeping on the floor, so the government did what? It went out trying to fix an obvious problem, right? Went out and bought beds for children, not controversial.

Well, apparently not for AOC, who had celebrated this Wayfair protest by some of their employees -- not the company in general -- about selling beds to the government to put kids in bed.

This is a head scratcher. I really don't get it even for liberals it seems like a very bizarre new low. But you know, whatever. I'm done trying to explain liberals, so --

CARLSON: Totally bizarre.

BONGINO: Very bizarre. Right. Story number two.

CARLSON: I am probably smart.

BONGINO: Democrats are now all in on what I think you and me and many other people have known for a long time. It's a big swath of the party. They're all in on open borders. Listen, they have been trying to evaporate the border for a long time and Julian Castro, you know, listen, I don't agree with the guy, but at least Tucker, he was honest for once.

He came out in the Democratic debate number one, and basically said, let's just decriminalize it. Let's decriminalize the whole crossing the border illegal thing. Who needs it? What's the point?

And you know, for guys like me, and you who do this for a living and have to deal with Democrats who constantly change their principles after licking their fingers and checking the wind, at least you finally have a guy on stage, right, saying, "Hey, here's what we're all about. Forget the border. It's just this suggestion." Like I said, it's one of those four way stop signs nobody ever stops for. Just come on in.

So Julian Castro in a rare moment of honesty from a liberal, terrible idea, but at least he was honest.

All right. What did you think of that one? Liked that one? I didn't hear you. You've got to give me some feedback. What? All right, come on.

CARLSON: I loved that one. I am horrified -- but I am horrified by it. But I thought it was a good summation.

BONGINO: I know you're horrified by it. I always -- sometimes I pick these immigration stories, because I know you're all over this stuff. There you go.

All right, story number one. Number one story of the week. Democrats -- this is a basic. I really had a tough time with this. Debate number one and debate number two, the question was asked: Will you support a Medicare- for-All plan that essentially cancels private insurance for millions of Americans? Tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of Americans, and some of them raised their hands.

Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders -- Tucker, listen, I don't know who got in there idea what kind of focus group, maybe it was like some focus group that was in one of those states that legalized weed beforehand, but the focus group that told them that this is some kind of an electoral winner, telling Americans they are going to cancel their private health insurance -- lay off the psychedelic mushrooms. It is not good for you.

This was the worst focus group ever. Don't do it. Terrible idea. Bad call by the Democrats. What are you laughing at? I liked that.

CARLSON: The psilocybin focus group. I love it. It's hilarious. Dan Bongino, have a great weekend. Thank you for that.

BONGINO: Thanks, buddy. Take care, pal. I'll see you around.

CARLSON: Well, a lot of viewers were baffled last night by author and now presidential candidate, Marianne Williamson. She spent a lot of the debate on a separate astral plane.

She promised to revitalize America not with new policies, but with her aura. Watch.

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MARIANNE WILLIAMSON, D-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If somebody younger body, it doesn't mean you don't have old ideas. John Kennedy -- John Kennedy did not say I have a plan to get a man to the moon and so we're going to do it. And I think we could all work together and maybe we can get a man on the moon.

And I will tell her, "Girlfriend, you are so on. Because the United States of America is going to be the best place in the world for a child to grow up."

I'm going to harness love for political purposes. I will meet you on that field. And sir, love will win.

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CARLSON: Wow, well, that's kind of intense. Who is this Marianne Williamson? We found a couple of her tweets that we hope will put her in context. Here are a few of them quote, "God is big. Swine flu is small. See every cell of your body filled with divine light. Pour God's love on our immune system. Truth protects another."

Another quote, "Imagine within you a pool of light filled with love, greatness, creativity and joy. Now, see yourself stepping into it. Now stay there."

I kind of liked that actually. I've got to be honest. I kind of like that. Here's another one. "Just beneath the surface. This isn't politics. It's black magic, entirely a psychic battle. Use your shield of virtue and your sort of truth."

I am not exactly sure what that means. She seems harmless at least. I'd like to meet her.

Anyway, that's it for us tonight. Before we leave Japan, we had a great week from here and it would not have been possible without the people we brought. Really the best crew in all of television. Benjamin West, Kyle Rothenberg, who I'm looking at right behind the cameras are the best at bringing a show any place in the world and they have done that.

Our producers Kelly McNally, Charlie Cougar, Emily Lynn are favorites and of course our executive producer, the diabolical genius behind the curtain, Justin Wells. A sincere thanks to all of them and the team back in New York and Washington. They make this possible.

You'll see our interview with the President on Monday, until then, have the best weekend with the ones you love. We will be back 8:00 p.m., the show that's the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink.

Good night from Kyoto, Japan. Sean Hannity is next.

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