This is a RUSH transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," February 9, 2011. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
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BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "Miller Time" segment tonight: three hot topics, with the D-man eating a little crow – bok -- this evening. the sage of Southern California joins us now from Los Angeles. Steve Allen's "bok," remember that? I love Steve Allen. All right. Let's go first to the White House. And you say?
DENNIS MILLER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, you know, Bill, this was like a mean line event to me. It's like Karl Wallenda (ph). There's no win here for you in my book. You've got to put it right down the mean line and have 50 percent of the country think you're too soft and 50 percent of the country think you are too harsh. I think that was your mandate, your rice bowl that day. And I thought you sweet-spotted it.
As far as you and him together, it's a bit of a Rashomon. It's that old Kurosawa film from the early '50s. People see it seven different ways. I know how I see you two together. And it seems to me that it's important to you that he like you in a weird way. Like even in your "Talking Points" tonight, I heard you say, "I think the president even liked it." I don't know; that's not what I'm looking for in an interview with Barack Obama. I want him to come in without a tie and leave in a neck brace. When he's meeting O'Reilly, I want him to dread it beforehand. I want him to sweat bullets in the middle of it and afterwards I want him to say to Axelrod, "What did I just say? I was like a lumberjack on that log rolling thing, just trying to stay ahead of it."
Listen, here's my thing with Barack Obama. It doesn't come down to whether I like him or not, a white or black thing. Is he a good family man? None of that matters. I see this country as lean, mean and I want the citizens to be self-reliant. He sees it as soft, and he wants the citizens or he's willing to concede some of them can be dependent. That's where I differ. That's where I would have braced him on that. I would have said, "Mr. President there's a big game later today. Do you think at the end of the game, the winning team should give the losing team enough of their points so that it's a tie because that's fair?" That's what I would have hit him with.
O'REILLY: OK, but the problem with that line of questioning, Miller, is that in a philosophical argument, debate, whatever it is, he's going to eat the clock up with nine, 10 minutes on philosophy and "No, that I'm not an income redistributionist. I just want a fair deal for the folks, and the folks support me. And it's not fair that they get thrown off the welfare rolls or the insurance rolls" or whatever rolls he's rolling around. So that I had to basically be specific.
But you're interesting -- it's an interesting point that you say likeability. What I wanted to establish there for the millions of people all over the world who don't watch "The Factor" and Fox News but who hear that we're the devil is that we're not the devil, that there was a concurrent, in addition to getting as much information and asking provocative questions, which I think I did. I also wanted to show the world we are not in business to demean Barack Obama. That's not what the network exists to do, and I think we accomplished that.
MILLER: Bill, nobody's -- you're not changing anybody's mind on that.
O'REILLY: Oh, yes, I think we did.
MILLER: I don't believe you're changing anybody's mind.
O'REILLY: I think you're wrong on that one. I really do.
MILLER: I think that people -- if you really think people are walking away from Fox News interviews who were on the Daily Kos and thinking…
O'REILLY: No, no, no. Those people you can't change their mind. I'm talking about the people in the middle who don't really watch cable but hear this kind of stuff. I think a lot of people's minds were changed. And I think I'm right because I was, of course, right on the Super Bowl. And now you have to buy me -- I'm searching the country for the most expensive steak restaurant, and we'll meet you there because I want them to roll the tape...
MILLER: Well, listen.
O'REILLY: I want to roll the tape on this -- on this Super Bowl bet. Go.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
O'REILLY: I think Green Bay is going to get to Big Ben. The defense is going to get to him, and that will be the difference in the game, 28-17.
MILLER: All right. We've got a steak dinner on that, because I'm going with the Steelers. But if Rodgers plays that Falcon game, yes, they win.
O'REILLY: OK.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
O'REILLY: All right. So you're a good Pittsburgh guy, and I admire you sticking by your home guys. You know, it was -- anybody could have won that game. And that was a great game.
MILLER: Well, like I said, if Rodgers -- Rodgers had almost a better game than the Falcons. It was Jordy Nelson and that Jones kid. Don't drop those four passes, he's north of 400 yards. So he just played brilliantly.
O'REILLY: All right, Miller. I am looking forward to that. I am going to get an appetizer, by the way, so please bring a lot of credit cards.
MILLER: All right. We'll go to that St. Elmo's place in Indianapolis. They've got that killer shrimp with the spicy sauce and then they got a nice honking steak. St. Elmo's.
O'REILLY: All right. St. Elmo's will be thrilled that you mentioned them.
And Michael Moore has a lot of credit cards. He must pay them off. So he's suing the Weinstein brothers for more money based upon one of his movies, right?
MILLER: You know, how many Hot Pockets can this toad jam down his massive pie hole into his pelican-sized gullet, for God's sakes? You walk away from a deal with the Weinsteins where you get $20 million out of the 23 they owe you, they should be suing you. For God's sakes, when Jimmy Garner showed up at the cookie jar after Rockford, they said there was no money. Twenty out of $23 million? This is unbelievable that he got that much. Why do you think they call it backend? Because that's where you usually get it with the Weinsteins. And trust me, he doesn't want to go to the mat with these gays over $3 million. He's going to get his face melted like a Gestapo agent looking into the Arc of the Covenant in "Indiana Jones" No. 1. You do not want to go to the mat with Weinsteins about money. And Michael Moore is about to find out how ugly it can get.
O'REILLY: But you see, the capitalism aspect of this is ironic due to Mr. Moore's socialistic proclivities.
MILLER: Listen, Moore has moved through ironic into moronic like that, Billy.
O'REILLY: Trying to keep up with you with the verbiage, Miller, it ain't easy. Dennis Miller, everybody. There he is.
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