Gutfeld: Pity the poor radical
Professional activists use performance art to pad their resumes
This is a rush transcript from "The Five," January 2, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Greg Gutfeld, along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Bob Beckel, Eric Bolling and Jedediah Bila, this is "The Five."
OK, that was long. Wow. Welcome back, everybody.
So as anti-cop protests continue, albeit smaller, here's a picture from one of them. So, does is cop deserve all this? Does she even know him? Does she even see him? Who she really yelling at? Mommy? Daddy? The ex-boyfriend? The ex-girlfriend? The teacher who flunked her because she skipped finals for a die-in?
The poor cop, he's just the point of contact for all that sucks in this world. He's the guy who breaks up a fight between drunks, who talks a sad guy down from a tall ledge. Who has to put me in a cab after I've lost my pants in the park. Who is she? Who knows? She's like that lady who blames the counterperson at JetBlue for bad weather canceling her flight. Always attacking the point of contact. And that's the point. Both the cop and the airline counterperson are there for her safety and for your safety. They don't make the laws, they just uphold them. And it's always the first responder who endures the wrath. A typical activist wouldn't last a minute in that job because yelling always beats doing -- I should know that.
I pity these poor radicals. Since their communist idols killed tens of millions, they see racism as the thread of the imperialist sweater they can yank on and unravel. They're the pros with professional signs, galvanized by the occupiers who used any issue as a Trojan horse for chaos. It's how radicals work, take advantage, infiltrate, cause mayhem.
It's hard to take them seriously, actually, for we know it's just performance art to pad a resume, so they'll all have cushy jobs on campus where teaching class requires none.
So Bob, you're the -- you're our civil rights activist. You've had a long history in it. But you see these protests that are help, better manufactured in part by Occu-Evolve -- I think that's what it's called. Something like eye medicine, does it bother you that a civil rights movement is kind of basically taken over by an agent of manufactured unrest? By radicals who really don't care?
BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: No, it doesn't bother me because it's not what they're doing. These are not civil rights activists. These are civil disturbance people.
GUTFELD: Right.
BECKEL: And these are people that enjoy taking advantage of a situation so they can cause mayhem. But they represent such a tiny percentage of America. The number of people who were protesting, it was supposed to be a big demonstration out here today, on New Year's Eve -- a hundred people. I mean, there may people in the city, this is not represent anything to do with lefts or -- I mean -- although, I know we'd like to broaden this call it radicals like that. The truth of the matter is they are just crazy people who like to disturb things.
GUTFELD: I don't know if they're crazy.
BECKEL: Oh, yeah they are. I've been around and I know.
GUTFELD: I think that they actually have a radical agenda that they've -- they've been educated for decades to be this way. I don't think it's crazy, I just think it's the person. Eric, I wanna go to this -- call for -- from Chuck Canterbury, here's the president of the Fraternal Order of Police. Can we put it up there and I will try to read it with bad vision. "How about keeping meaningful statistics on the tens of thousands of felonious assaults on police officers every year? How about making these attacks on officers hate crimes?" They go (ph) asked me about this. They should be being (ph) fair and balanced, you never hear about what they do, and they never get -- and those people never get punish.
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Can I use your perfect analogy of the cops being the counter agents at the airport.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
BOLLING: Same thing where you -- the people who feel that they've been wronged, go right after the first point of contact.
GUTFELD: Exactly.
BOLLING: It gets worse though in this situation, the counter agent is the NYPD, but the CEO of the airline says, you know what? I don't trust my counter agents and they make it known to everyone.
GUTFELD: Right.
BOLLING: And so, all the people who are frustrated that they're being wronged say, you know what? Even your own CEO doesn't back you, we must be right and they get even further in the face of the counter agent, even hurt them and sometimes they put two bullets into two cops who are basically counter agents of the NYPD.
BECKEL: How do you make a connection.
BOLLING: How do you make a connection Bob?
BECKEL: Another counter agent? I mean, the people complain, this is --
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BOLLING: They're saying they're being treated unfairly, the black community is saying they're being treated unfairly by law enforcement around the country. They go to the counter -- counter agent, which are the NYPD, and then the CEO, de Blasio says, I don't trust them.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
BOLLING: I will trust my own people, and then they get more ticked off and they blow a couple away.
GUTFELD: Yeah, I think the airline.
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GUTFELD: At least the airline president backs these (ph) for years.
BOLLING: Right, exactly.
BECKEL: And the people who were complaining that the airline line are from CEO's and businesses. Those are the ones I get complaining most.
GUTFELD: I don't.
BOLLING: Well, not sure with that.
GUTFELD: Wait, when you know someone a flight gets canceled, you -- I never see a CEO would up there going like, a blaming -- it's the weather, it's the weather.
BECKEL: I mean -- it's the people in first class, they're the first one who go up there and complain. I know because I fly first class.
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Oh, come on.
BECKEL: It's true.
GUILFOYLE: Maybe --
BECKEL: What do you think they are a bunch of radicals.
GUILFOYLE: Maybe when you're up there.
BECKEL: You think those are bunch of radicals who are going in front of those people?
GUTFELD: Only on the bus, they do that on the bus.
BECKEL: That's true.
GUTFELD: I want.
BOLLING: Where are we?
GUTFELD: I don't know where we are.
BOLLING: We are on the bus.
GUTFELD: We are on the bus. I want to talk about this other issue, Kimberly.
GUILFOYLE: Sure.
GUTFELD: Because you are a prosecutor, who watching overall --
GUILFOYLE: Still.
GUTFELD: You are still.
GUILFOYLE: Yeah, bum.
GUTFELD: Overall arrests are down 66 percent. Traffic violations are down 94 percent. Drug arrests are down 84 percent. This is -- essentially, is -- is the New York Police Department going out of their way not to make arrests since the killings -- is that a good thing or a bad thing?
GUILFOYLE: Look, I mean they've even naturally going to have a reaction in the universal (ph) something like this happen, there's going to be some kind of reaction from the police department. Do you kind of blame them? Given the fact that -- well, when you get up in the morning you got a chance of getting shot at, getting killed, getting persecuted, getting spit in your face, getting blamed for just doing your job -- I mean it's awful. Who wants to be a police officer these days with this lack of appreciation? That's why, every time when I see him out there in New Year's Eve in doing the show, they were out there in force, they were lovely and friendly and had such a good attitude -- God bless and we could learn a lot from their disposition. However, sure, do I think that perhaps it's going to be a little bit of hesitation perhaps, for some of those lower level crimes? But the problem is nothing happens in a vacuum. So what's going to be the tipping point. It all feeds into the greater chain of violence and crime and wait and see.
BOLLING: Can -- can I also offer -- I only checked to what it going to in - - but can I also offer another explanation reported that some of the dropping and arrests of some of these low level crimes. Cops are -- there's a protest all over the city.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
BOLLING: They're being called from all over there.
GUILFOYLE: Dizzy (ph)
BECKEL: Where?
BOLLING: There's one right in front of the building today, Bob.
BECKEL: 25 People?
BOLLING: Whatever. That means -- that means 20 cops have to be here instead of.
JEDEDIAH BILA, GUEST CO-HOST: Yeah.
BOLLING: Maybe making --
GUILFOYLE: No, Bob calls those friends.
(LAUGHTER)
GUILFOYLE: The protesters.
BECKEL: Those are probably my --
BILA: Yeah.
GUTFELD: You know, they're doing a lot of die-ins (ph), but I --
GUIFOYLE: It's exhausting. (ph)
GUTFELD: Yeah.
BILA: Yeah.
GUTFELD: Jedediah, Mayor de Blasio re-appointed the judge, who had just freed to dirt bags.
BILA: Yeah.
GUTFELD: Who threatened to kill cops just days after two cops was assassinated. Is he that blind or he does not care?
BILA: He doesn't care. And that's who he is. Remember his.
GUILFOYLE: Right.
BILA: Ideology, when he ran for office -- I mean, he's not going to abandoned who he is. He can go out there and say, "Oh, I'm here to back up cops, I'm going to bring everyone together." But he's not going to change his ideology and will lead him to his job, I mean that's not going to happen. Let's remember, these cops are out there, these guys don't make a lot of money.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
BILA: The irony here is a lot of these protesters, these occupy life protesters, these are rich, entitled kids often times, a lot of them that I've spoken too when I popped out there and try to do interview. These cops are out there trying to do a job and they don't feel supported, so it's no surprise to me that they're -- you know, saying, let me not date (ph) of myself if I don't have too. Let me not give these types of summonses if I don't have to. Because you know what? It might not be worth it's me, I'm not going to get backed up. If something happens, no one's going to have my back, the mayor certainly not.
GUILFOYLE: You might lose your job.
BILA: Yeah.
BECKEL: What's egregious is that judge letting knows people go was, it's part of the system, the one who said to me because I don't believe -- I think the woman in Staten Island was -- these guys should have been in jail. But, you said, OK, follow, that's the system we live in, you have to live in with the problem, well you going to have to live with this.
GUTFELD: Well --
BOLLING: Yeah, but here's the other thing is de Blasio said, he -- literally said, I'm going to make -- I'm going to make amends with the police department, with the unions -- how about the jail part?
GUILFOYLE: Know it. (ph)
BOLLING: Yeah, we get to that in a second. And he said he's going to make amends with the police unions, and then two days later, he report -- it reappoints the judge that really, probably (ph) ticked the NYPD off, as much as de Blasio making comments about his biracial son. The appointing that show -- reappointing that judge probably made them just as mad.
BILA: That's why they're turned their backs on him. People keep yelling at the police and saying, "Well, it's not professional turning your back." They're turning their backs because they're still not supported. And they would probably love to see this guy resign, because they need someone at the top of the helm, it's going to support them and have their back at maybe. (ph) I mean, whose going to protect the city? If all the cops back down, I mean, great idea everyone, let's beat up on all the cops and who protects these minority communities, these high risk communities, when no one's there to do it because the cops don't feel supported in any situation -- I think it's disaster for the city.
GUTFELD: Kimberly, I wanna ask you, what do you -- is it -- Bob, I know this, the convention, democratic convention coming out, is that in 2016 is it?
BECKEL: 16, yeah.
GUILFOYLE: Yeah.
GUTFELD: Do you think this is in jeopardy? Do you think that they're actually going to be able to have this or they're going to trust de Blasio, if the -- if law enforcement has no respect for him?
GUILFOYLE: Look, it's definitely a real question that they're going to have to address. Hopefully, things are better by then. But let me tell you something, we had threats and protests and everything for New Year's Eve. And, it went off without a hitch in New York, because if there's anything we can do, we can do crisis here really well better than anybody, no matter what the circumstances so, I going to remain optimistic or as bully with the foolish about it.
BOLLING: Well known. But, however, when you're in the city, a lot of times -- most of times, I think -- every one of them that we've attended, the mayor of that city makes the announcement, does it is a democrat? If they do go to the city where this democrat mayor? And, can you imagine de Blasio getting up on stage.
GUILFOYLE: Boo.
BILA: Yeah.
BOLLING: At 16, and getting booed at the DNC.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
BOLLING: Or having the cops turn their backs on him at the DNC. I think -- de Blasio just.
GUILFOYLE: News at 11.
BOLLING: He just -- be just -- shot at the DNC pride to fill in. (ph) that I think that was sort of a runner up city. And they have.
GUILFOYLE: Because why take a chance?
GUTFELD: As --
BOLLING: Right.
GUTFELD: I also think the media has -- of course as much to blame because, only perspective that they like on race has to begin from the -- the initial thought that racism is pervasive. And so therefore, you cannot even talk about the police without saying -- of course the racist police, so that what you end up with this atmosphere of intolerance towards the men and women in blue.
BILA: Yeah. And that's true, I mean the media plays a role, but if de Blasio -- de Blasio is just enforcing that with his behavior. I mean, every time you turn around, you see him pretending to bring everyone together and pretending like he's now going to back police. And policy step he takes does the complete opposite. So they're not stupid they're watching that. I mean, I don't know that somebody who followed him would be -- you know, they call for his resignation, I don't know but anybody would be better, but I don't feel anybody -- anybody could be worse.
BECKEL: But you what? For the years he's been in the office, they all -- this started where he made -- this terrible comment about his kid and that --
BILA: Yes.
BECKEL: And by the way that judge appointment was a deal that was cut a year ago.
BOLLING: No, it wasn't.
BECKEL: What?
BOLLING: No, it was a year ago. It was a one-year term and he --
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BECKEL: No, I knew that. But I think he cut a deal with her.
BOLLING: He appoints her at midnight in New Year's Eve. It let her -- it let her explain.
BECKEL: I just saying that I think he made a political deal with her months ago to give her that seat again. But leaving that aside, what -- before he made that comment, what have the police --
BOLLING: But wait, Bob, Bob, Bob --
BECKEL: What's the problem that happened? I don't get it.
BOLLING: This kid -- that posted the picture of the thug putting gun in squad car, happened after Liu and Ramos were shot, am I right?
GUTFELD: Yeah.
BOLLING: Is right. So, whatever deal he cut with her in the past, he could have blown out and said, we change our minds, we don't like this.
GUILFOYLE: Deals off.
BOLLING: Yeah, deals off.
GUILFOYLE; Deals off.
BECKEL: and so, you're blaming de Blasio for all of this.
BILA: What about the pro --
BOLLING: For the reappointment.
BILA: What about the protesters that was.
GUILFOYLE: But he's the one that.
BILA: Calling for dead cops?
GUILFOYLE: Reappointment, so that's the.
BECKEL: So there's nuts everywhere. You got nuts on the bright column.
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BECKEL: For the black people to get back to Liberia.
GUILFOYLE: What?
BILA: It's what protester calling for dead cops in New York City. It's the job of the Mayor to condemn that not to full amend (ph) it, not to encourage it.
BECKEL: She should.
GUILFOYLE: He's the catalyst for a lot of the things that have gone wrong here. Look at him, there you go. That's the guy.
GUTFELD: You may -- you may some of this, every -- on the left, they've always talk about it how crazy the tea party is. And they can never find anybody, but it's so easy on this side. You got -- you got more nuts, you're like -- you're like a big giant bowl of granola.
BECEKL: How about --
GUTFELD: With nuts.
BECKEL: In Arizona. Do you think he's in nut?
GUTFELD: Which one?
GUILFOYLE: Which have to do with anything, he's talking about our priors (ph) and.
GUTFELD: By the way, can I just throw that picture up before we go of the police -- police officer. You have to admit, that -- your police, and police general have -- must have incredible patience when they find -- to how can you stand there and put up with this? Because he has to, if he does anything, he's in trouble.
BOLLING: She's saying, open wide I wanna see your molars like.
(LAUGHTER)
GUTFELD: He's a traveling dentist. He's a traveling -- my -- I apologize.
BOLLING: Occupied.
GUTFELD: This was an -- this was an occupied dentistry. I missed it.
BECKEL: I give you, I give you credit to this collectors. (ph) This is one, one hundred of one percent of the people do you hurt -- that you're talking about a year. And somehow we're making a new story at least we shouldn't.
GUTFELD: Well, you know what?
GUILFOYLE: Talented.
GUTFELD: It's January 2nd. Next on The Five, it's the New Year and a bunch of new laws just hit the books nationwide. Which ones could affect you? Stick around for the answers.
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GUILFOYLE: As 2015 rang in, so did hundreds of new laws across the country, from the not so serious ones, like in New York, where it's now going to be illegal, to take a selfie with the lions, tigers or another big cat. To the more serious ones, like in 20 states in Washington, D.C. where the minimum wage is going up. But not everyone agrees with the way it takes to (ph) Mr. Bolling.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GARETT JONES, GEORGE MASON UNIVERSITY ECONOMIST: It's obvious to a lot of people that giving -- giving low income a raise is going to make them better off. And for the people who keep their jobs -- that's definitely true. But if you just think about it, it's -- if even one person is losing their job, and more than one person is losing their job. If even one person is losing their job that means less stuff is made. Our pie is getting smaller. So the minimum wage has to be making us poor overall.
(END VIDEO CLIP) GUILFOYLE: All right. So before we get into the more privilege changes, let's discuss some of the more serious ones, including over 1 million undocumented immigrants, now eligible for driver's licenses in California and the minimum wage hikes in 20 states in Washington, D.C. talk about minimum wage.
BOLLING: Very quickly -- so, Heritage Foundation, Heritage has -- psyched called, the signal -- they did a little math on this? The -- the rate -- the hike in minimum wage, if the fast food workers get what they want -- now we got a hike at 21 states that have hike their minimum wage starting this year and will continue throughout the year. But, if the fast-food workers get 15 bucks an hour that they want, literally, the combos like -- a Big Mac combo will go up $2 or the Baconator combo will go up $2.15 so, either you're going to have fewer people employed, they have to lay people off, or they're going to have to jack up the price on -- whatever product they're selling. Whether it's a burger or burrito.
BECKEL: You think it chance it's going to be 15 bucks an hour -- come on, be real.
BOLLING: They're literally --
BECKEL: That's what they want.
(CROSSTALK)
BOLLING: Here's what happens Bob. President Obama wants a 10/10 minimum wage nationally, federal --
BECKEL: Yeah.
BOLLING: All of a sudden, 21 states are now inching their way towards what President Obama wants with the minimum wage. So, they talked about everyone, since no one and before you know they slide these things in at the end of the year, and they're getting to have the stuffs that they want or more.
BECKEL: Most of this redeem (ph) by vote your friends (ph) by the way. If voters want to increase it, let them increase it. They are increasing it.
GUTFELD: Yeah but.
BOLLING: This is their way to do it. You're right.
GUTFELD: It's not an achievement to increase minimum wage. Basically, it's an admission of failure that you didn't create an economy that allowed for other jobs to be created above that.
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GUTFELD: So when you decide and you say, yehey, we just made the lowest rung of higher wage what you're saying is, we just have a larger population of people that are going to be stuck there way longer because they don't have the skills and there aren't jobs available for them to go into. There's no job growth when you create -- when you put a cut on the lowest rung. So, hooray, but you shouldn't be -- you shouldn't be happy about this, this is sad.
BILA: But the lefties are little dense sometimes. So, I think the only way to honestly see these effects that you're talking about, people losing jobs, people being laid off, prices going up, because every time you make those arguments, both on lefts say, oh, that's not true, that's unrealistic. Unfortunately, I think the only way to see this is to have it played out, and have these states increase the minimum wage and then see what happens to those economies and see what happens to those jobs.
BECKEL; I don't know where we found this sophomore graduated from -- that supposed economist who probably who never get into college, so did that quote.
GUTFELD: He went for Gruber.
BOLLING: Yeah, a professor.
BECKEL: Yeah, professor -- group. He a --
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BECKEL: New Jersey -- New Jersey raise of minimum wage never states out. And not -- nobody let show me a single job.
BOLLING: Bob -- Bob.
(CROSSTALK)
BECKEL: Not one.
(CORSSTALK) BOLLING: Next time you go to McDonald's, and you press the button and you hear a voice, it doesn't sound like the person who's hanging me the bag.
BILA: Exactly right.
BOLLING: That's because the minimum wage is hike. Obamacare -- we are forcing Obamacare.
GUILFOYLE: Its outsourcing jobs that of America -- thank you.
BOLLING: They're outsourcing jobs -- out of America's -- Kimberly's right, and a lot of made it.
GUILFOYLE: Yup.
BOLLING: Pretty soon all that -- those fast-food workers are going to be out of workers, because they're automated.
BILA: No jobs.
GUILFOYLE: And you're not going to like it, Bob.
(CROSSTALK)
GUILFOYLE: You're not going to like it.
BECKEL: If that's going to be the case.
BILA: Right.
GUILFOYLE: OK
(CROSSTALK)
GUTFELD: Who you guys are at the selfie ban with large cats.
GUILFOYLE: OK.
GUTFELD: It's a much bigger story, because this is -- this is wrong. Because, this -- OK. They're banning people from taking pictures with lions and tigers, which seem to me against nature about the survival of the fittest. We should allow arrogant idiots to take pictures with man eating animals so that then the animal eats the person.
GUILFOYE: Yeah.
GUTFEDL: And it gets rid of these morons.
GUILFOYLE: And then they're out of the dating pool.
GUTFELD: Exactly.
BECKEL: Just remember the (inaudible) rather have to go and get those people out of those situations. They are the ones are being.
GUTFELD: But if they drive slowly, you know -- the first responder takes a bus.
GUILFOYLE: Jedediah, can you -- want to take a drive with me?
BILA: Take a drive with you?
GUILFOYLE: Yes.
(CROSSTALK)
GUILFOYLE: No, let's talk about driver's license for illegal immigrants.
BILA: Yeah.
GUILFOYLE: I've got -- I've got my license, but now a lot of people can.
BILA: A lot of people will, and it's really interesting to me that -- whenever people told -- people -- people get condemned for talking about border security, all the time. I mean, I can apply now, oh, it's ridiculous, but when something like this comes up, everyone -- everyone gets behind it. I don't know what kind of impact this is actually going to have, I don't know how outrage people are going to be. But I did notice when people started talking about this today on Twitter, the first thing that came to mind is, once again you're not -- you know, enforcing our laws and.
BECKEL; Yeah, but you got to learn the fewer that they -- they get actions, the reasons they do this is they have to have insurance, if they don't have a driver's license --
GUILFOYLE: Yeah, but a lot of people do it, they drive --
GUTFELD: Are they really -- if they're -- if they're illegal immigrants, they're going to get insurance?
BECKEL: Sure, and they should get an insurance.
GUTFELD: They walk -- they're going to walk and say hi.
BECKEL: The person who gets hit by them ought to be able to have some hope -- they going to get insurance.
(CROSSTALK)
GUTFELD: Even not in line.
BOLLING: Take that though in extra (ph)
BILA: Yeah.
BOLLING: You know what's right after driver's license?
BECKEL; What?
BILA: They play the board on candy land and that's reality.
BOLLING: Obamacare, health insurance. If you -- if you say that they have right to drive, if you're giving -- it's really a privilege, but if you say they have a right to drive, you're going to say the same thing Bob.
(CROSSTALK)
BECKEL: Let me ask you a question. If you were rear ended by an illegal immigrant, would you rather have that insurance to pay for your car or have nothing?
BOLLING: I would rather have them legal. And that --
BECKEL: That's not -- those are my questions.
(CROSSTALK)
GUTFELD: But that's a fake question.
BECKEL: What?
GUTFELD: Everybody would rather be rear ended if that were the choice, by somebody who is -- who is here legally and who had their insurance. No one wants to be rear ended by illegals.
BECKEL: I'm just saying, if you -- if you do, isn't it better they have insurance than not?
GUTFELD: Then why we just say --you can apply on everything.
(CROSSTALK)
BILA: Everything. Until they don't have any laws at all, it's just -- I mean -- it's that what serves.
(CROSSTALK)
BECKEL: You guys don't get this. I mean, you guys don't get but anything, but you get back at this one.
GUILFOYLE: Uh-oh, disparaging comments at the beginning of the year will not be tolerated -- let's got o break. Directly ahead, what do college football, U-2's Bono and the price is right have in common? Well, they're all -- in Eric, Fastest 7 in 2015 is coming up next.
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BOLLING: Welcome back, time for -- the Fastest 7 minutes on television, three dynamic stories, seven dangerous minutes, one differential host. First off, the first ever college football playoff kicked off last night, the second game produced one of the biggest upsets of the season. As Ohio state shock number one, Alabama 42-35. In the in the first game however, Oregon laid the smack down on defending national champion Florida state -- 59 to 20, lead by Heisman Trophy winner Marcus Mariota. Oregon snapped the nose 29 game winning streak, it's what happened after the game, however, that raised most eyebrows the players from the victorious Oregon team started this controversial chant directed at Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston, who was investigated for raping a fellow student in 2012.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CROWD: No, means no. No. means, no.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BOLLING: No, means no, meaning, he may have not taking no for the right answer. As our football expert.
BILA: Oh men, you know, you can't tell he's plan of saying. (ph) You can't.
BOLLING: I'm the first...
BILA: Well, I mean, as far it can --
BOLLING: Yeah.
BILA: I mean -- I cannot be to be a football expertise. But as far as the chant, that was message that you would want out there though. I mean, no means no, I don't have a problem with them doing that. People say oh, it's inappropriate, it's inappropriate. But, that's a message that if you're in college, I wouldn't want that message to be out there.
BECKEL: But he was exonerated. That's the thing that's problem --
BILA: But still, the idea that no means no, is that not a message.
BECKEL: Yeah.
BILA: That's good for everyone?
BECKEL: Yeah, but I mean, you don't addressed (ph) to a guy that yelling at who got exonerated.
BILA: These are sports players though, this is what they do. They caught in the heat at the moment, you know.
BOLLING: So, so, I tell either one of you guys, see that the Oregon said that they may discipline these players for -- the chant or to the taunting.
GUILFOYLE: Look, I mean now, that everybody's going to be try to want up the next team and come up with their chant and do hands up, or no mean no - - you know, keep your head on the game, be graceful when you lose or when you win -- I don't know, it just seems a little show boating. (ph)
BOLLING: It was your football expertise?
GUTFELD: Well, I've been thinking about this a lot, the change in the college playoffs, decided by the score and not by the pollsters. We had the discussion in between breaks for the last couple of years. I think the titles should be decided by the amount of fans who don't have face paint. Because I think the fewer the better. The fewer face paint, the better. Most people who put face paint on their face are idiots, according to science.
BOLLING: All right. Second on "The Fastest"...
BECKEL: Wait, wait, wait.
BOLLING: What, you have more? He's got more.
BECKEL: I didn't talk about this. I didn't get a chance to talk about it. I think first of all, the bowl championship series was a joke when they did it, and it's exactly the right thing to do. Alabama deserve to lose, and Florida State deserve to lose. The best teams ended up being for the potential championship.
BOLLING: And yes, and you're right. And they wouldn't have...
BECKEL: They wouldn't have been picked if you'd done it by that old archaic system.
BOLLING: By the way, I said Ohio State was going to lose, and I heard nonstop from you Ohio State fans.
All right. Second on "The Fastest," U-2, the band responsible for the highest grossing tour of all time, may have to go on their next tour without Bono doing this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
(MUSIC: In love and war there are no rules...)
(BONO PLAYING GUITAR)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BOLLING: All right. It his 2014 recap posted on YouTube.com, the Irish singer/songwriter recalled his horrific bike accident where he broke his hand and shoulder...
GUILFOYLE: And elbow.
BOLLING: ... quote, "Recovery has been more difficult than I thought. As I write this, it's not clear that I will ever play guitar again." Mr. Gutfeld.
GUTFELD: That's like me saying I will never play basketball again. Because as a massive U-2 fan who saw them in 1980 at the Old Waldorf with 200 people, he's not a guitar player. Edge is the actual guitar player responsible for the U-2's most -- the U-2 -- U-2's unusual sound, stolen from Keith Levine from Public Image, but we won't get into that.
GUILFOYLE: Whoa.
GUTFELD: So Edge is the guitarist.
BILA: Look who's showing off now.
GUTFELD: By the way, what happened in that accident? This is like the most mysterious bicycle accident ever. Because you don't know: Did he hit somebody? Did somebody get him?
GUILFOYLE: It was a collision, but yes, whose fault?
GUTFELD: But it's so quiet, I wonder. When rich people get in accidents, lawyers put a blanket on it.
BOLLING: Sure.
BOLLING: You're a big U-2 fan, right?
GUILFOYLE: A huge U-2 fan and Bono fan.
BOLLING: Should he come back? Should he just sing?
GUILFOYLE: Well, of course he should come back. He can sing, and I hope the rehabilitation is going to go better over time. But it's part of his whole persona. And I think he feels connected. It's like saying an athlete, a football player just sit there and catch the ball when they're used to catching and running and moving with it or scrambling with it. So I don't know. I'm sure that he's devastated. I'm sure this is incredibly difficult and he had a lot of stuff on his plate.
And again, huge humanitarian. I love him.
BOLLING: But maybe he wants to kick back and do some of the other stuff instead of tour.
BECKEL: He's -- this is a terrible thing that happened to him, but it underscores one thing that I have said for years, which is that exercise is dangerous and you shouldn't do it.
BOLLING: You have to.
GUTFELD: There's a higher risk for accidents.
BECKEL: That's right.
BOLLING: Jed, your thoughts on Bono before we move on?
BILA: Oh, I just hope he gets to play. He looks so cute with his guitar. I love a man with a guitar, so...
BOLLING: OK.
GUTFELD: There you go. There's something obvious.
BOLLING: We'll leave it right there.
And finally, some "Price is Right" contestants have no idea how much an iPhone costs. Here's proof. You have to see it to believe it.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DREW CAREY, HOST, "THE PRICE IS RIGHT": All right, Kanisha (ph).
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Seven thousand five hundred.
CAREY: Seven thousand five hundred. Seven thousand five hundred. Mark.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Seven thousand five hundred and one.
CAREY: Seven thousand five hundred and one. Rachel.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Eight fifty!
CAREY: Eight hundred and fifty dollars.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nine-thirty.
CAREY: Nine-thirty.
I hope -- I hope the marketing people at Apple are watching this. Actual retail price, $1,969.
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BOLLING: So Greg, your thoughts on that?
GUTFELD: My favorite part of that whole segment is when she said seventy- five hundred dollars. And he goes, "I'm going to play strategy. I'm going to go one dollar above her." Without any clue that he is a moron and she is a moron.
GUILFOYLE: Bad.
GUTFELD: You could have told them an actual apple for $500. What do you think of this Granny Smith?
"Five hundred!"
And he'd go, "Five hundred and one."
GUILFOYLE: Yes, the prices at Whole Foods for one of those apples.
GUTFELD: True.
BOLLING: And by the way, that's also for a year's worth of activation.
GUILFOYLE: And a year's worth of activation, so there's, like, add-ons to that. So maybe they were thinking a lot of extra add-ons, like cable came with it and a new wardrobe and a used car.
BOLLING: So are we trying to say he was really smart for saying seventy- five-oh-one?
GUILFOYLE: Maybe yes. Smart, smart, smart, smart, smart.
BOLLING: Do you believe that?
GUILFOYLE: Yes.
BOLLING: Yes, go with it. Bob.
BECKEL: You never leave anything to mis -- never mind. I mean, 7,500 bucks for a phone?
BOLLING: And the year's worth of activation.
BECKEL: I've paid $7,500 for things but not phones.
GUTFELD: I didn't know they had the activation in there.
BOLLING: Well, they told me that in my ear. I didn't really know.
GUTFELD: Now I feel bad. They're not morons. They're smarter than me.
BILA: You would have to live in a box, though. Seven thousand five hundred? And what if -- imagine if there were a phone that cost that. I wonder what it could do.
GUTFELD: Well, wait a minute. How much was it? Did they factor it in? I didn't watch the whole thing.
GUILFOYLE: Nineteen hundred, all in.
BOLLING: An iPhone's like 800 bucks.
BILA: Think it was like 1,900.
BOLLING: Plus $25 a month.
GUILFOYLE: Now that we've dissected that, buried it and resuscitated it...
GUTFELD: Now we must apologize.
BOLLING: We shall move on.
Up next, if you've made a resolution to put down your smart phone this coming year, you're not going to want to miss our next segment. You'll find out how some people are seeking treatment, similar to rehab to help them unplug. More on this so-called digital detox when we come back.
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BILA: Does being constantly plugged in deserve treatment like alcoholism or drug addiction? The Wall Street Journal reports two women started a three-day retreat in the British countryside where participants trade in smart phones for exercise, art and face-to-face conversation. It's known as a digital detox.
Has our addiction to technology really gotten so bad that programs similar to rehab are the only way to fix them?
Gregory, I have a text addiction.
GUTFELD: Yes.
BILA: I might sign up for this. Does that mean there's something wrong with me?
GUTFELD: But it's not an addiction to technology. It's an addiction to attention.
We have acquired what the famous have always wanted...
GUILFOYLE: What?
GUTFELD: ... without being famous, which the desire to be loved by people you don't know. You are interested. You have a desire for acceptance for people out there that you actually don't see. That diminishes the interaction with the people you're actually with. And it actually can harm the intimacy of your family, because you're so interested in this competing stream of love.
And then when it turns bad, it's worse, because the mob effect on Twitter or social networks is ten times worse, because people don't feel the consequences when they can turn on you on a dime.
So there's a lot of problems. There's a competing consciousness where you have your own thoughts. But there are other thoughts out there that are coming in. It's like your earth and Twitter are asteroids, and you keep thinking about it all the time, and you forget that there's somebody right next to you who loves you.
GUILFOYLE: My God.
BILA: That got very philosophical.
GUILFOYLE: You are so, so prepared for this segment. I think you thought that out ahead, in therapy.
GUTFELD: It's because I'm quitting Twitter. I've decided.
GUILFOYLE: You always say that.
GUTFELD: I know. This is ten years in a row. No, but I realized you have to. You have to, for your own sanity.
BILA: Why can't you just do it in moderation, Gregory?
GUTFELD: There's a lot of things you can't do in...
BILA: A little bit of Twitter -- a little bit of Twitter goes a long way.
GUILFOYLE: He gets in Twitter wars, then he goes and drinks red wine at the bar. And then he doesn't write enough of his book. Then he gets -- it's like a whole problem.
GUTFELD: Exactly right.
GUILFOYLE: Then he gets upset. And then he's got to take Imodium again.
GUTFELD: That's so true.
BECKEL: See, the problem with this...
BILA: Yes.
BECKEL: ... if you had these things in real life, I'd be sitting at this table alone, probably without you guys.
I mean, look, the idea that -- in AA or drugs, you've got to completely stop. The chance of somebody going off and moderating their use of these things, no chance. I mean, once you start back at it again, it gets bigger and bigger. But I agree with everything Greg said. And by the way, I don't ever get any love coming back in on this thing.
BILA: You do. I send you love there all the time.
BECKEL: It starts off you -- never mind, I'm going to get beat again. I'll let it go.
BILA: Why do we need -- why do we need a treatment center for this, though, Eric? I mean, can't we just sit home and turn off your phone for a couple days?
BOLLING: Yes, but then as soon as you turn it back on, Greg's right. You're back on it. You know, it's almost a need to interact. They have no idea where it comes from. It's not a need to interact vocally or personally.
GUTFELD: Yes.
BOLLING: It's a need to interact electronically. I can't understand this. But I hate phone calls. I despise the phone ringing. I don't even want to answer it. But if a text comes in, or a tweet comes in, I'll like answer it. I don't get it. I'll actually wait for it. It's a bizarre chemical thing that goes on.
GUTFELD: And it's rewiring our brains.
BOLLING: I don't know whether it's going to make people less...
BECKEL: Communicative.
BOLLING: ... in person.
BILA: And what does it -- what does it do to relationships? Have you ever noticed people on dates? I see it all the time, and they're staring at their phone and they're looking down all the time...
GUTFELD: It's great for lousy dates.
BILA: Great for lousy dates, but not good for relationships. If you want to build something and there's somebody staring at their phone all the time.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, how sweet.
BOLLING: So can I ask you? I'm totally addicted to these two phones, and my wife hates it. If we're at a dinner and I'm checking it, "What are you doing?"
BECKEL: That's horrible.
BOLLING: But once in a while, when she picks up her phone and checks her texts, I feel so relieved, like "Oh, thank God." Now she's finally done it.
BECKEL: My son and his girlfriend sit in the same room and text each other. Now what is that all about?
BILA: Yes. I do that sometimes.
GUILFOYLE: That's good.
BILA: I do.
GUILFOYLE: It's fun, it's fun. But then you have to do the whole thing...
BECKEL: Could you do away with that thing for how long?
GUILFOYLE: No. Blackberry time out or iPhone time out, and you can, like, both check if you have to check. But when you're a parent, you have a child then, and especially a young child, I find that I always check and make sure everything's OK.
BILA: Yes. To answer your question, Bob, I left my phone home one day. I was breaking out into a cold sweat. I was panic stricken. So I think I need this. I support these women, because I need technology detox.
BECKEL: Yes, but you're not going to get detoxed, because you're not going to stop.
GUTFELD: You have three days, no. You have to walk away. Once we have a desert island.
GUILFOYLE: There's worse things, you know, to be addicted to.
GUTFELD: Or a deserted island.
BECKEL: That's for sure.
GUTFELD: Desert island.
BILA: All right, well, next on "The Five," how are we going to put our New Year's resolutions into practice? And did Kimberly and Bob re-create their magic on New Year's Eve? We find out when we return.
GUILFOYLE: Look at Bob. I'm having a good time.
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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GUILFOYLE: I'm go to see if I can restart Bob's heart.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Come on!
GUILFOYLE: FOX News style.
JESSE WATTERS, FOX NEWS PRODUCER: Oh, wow.
Come up for air.
BECKEL: Oh, baby, baby.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BECKEL: I got to tell you a story about that. Believe it or not, we did that the first time first time, and they came back on and said, "We didn't catch. So we have to do it all over again."
GUILFOYLE: Bob paid them.
BECKEL: I can tell you -- I can tell you this.
GUILFOYLE: I don't know what I caught, but thank God for Azithromycin.
BECKEL: Can you rack that up a little, because I can't see it. Bad living. OK. Now, the thing was that Kimberly kept saying, "Vote no, vote no." Because they had a poll of the audience, right? And it was two to one in favor of doing it. I was saying, yes, do it. Kimberly just said no and "I'll get you, Fivers."
We've made our predictions, our resolutions, rather, so how are we going to put them into practice? Jedediah, we haven't heard yours yet, by the way.
BILA: Yes.
BECKEL: You want to tell us what your resolution is and what is it?
BILA: I am going to go on one date with a man that my mother approves of: no tattoos, no motorcycles. It's all going to be good, nice. That's what I'm going to do. I don't know if that's a resolution.
GUTFELD: Lou Dobbs? She loves Lou Dobbs.
BILA: She loves -- she loves Lou Dobbs.
GUTFELD: He does have tattoos. Dollar signs.
BECKEL: Let's go back to everybody. What was your -- what was your New Year's resolution?
BOLLING: Don't you remember?
BECKEL: No, I don't remember.
BOLLING: To be more altruistic. I think you guys destroyed me for...
BECKEL: What's altruistic mean?
BOLLING: Charitable.
BECKEL: You always save money.
GUILFOYLE: Like then he shows all the pictures of himself at the events.
BOLLING: I just don't even know where to go with this.
BECKEL: You did have a lot of pictures this year. I'll say. Greg.
Yours was you're not going to promote a book this year.
GUTFELD: I might have a book coming out in the fall. But you know what's -- if there were no holidays, you wouldn't need resolutions, because holidays -- resolutions exist to undo the last month of destruction you've done to your body. Maybe by February, I'll be back to November Greg, because you spend so much time stuffing your face. And then in January, you go, "I got to stop." Why not just not do it?
BECKEL: There's an idea. What was your resolution?
GUILFOYLE: My resolution, I was putting myself on a five-second delay to, like, calm down and become Zen before I went, "Bob! What are you talking about? What do you mean?"
BECKEL: Yes, good.
GUILFOYLE: I feel like I would like to take that back now, because I feel like the kiss was a great equalizer. So now it's game on, baby.
BOLLING: So we didn't really talk about the kiss at all.
BILA: How was it for you, Kimberly?
GUILFOYLE: Closed mouth. Thank God.
BECKEL: It was an unclosed mouth.
GUILFOYLE: It was, Bob.
(CROSSTALK)
GUTFELD: I just thought Kennedy was about to throw up, so it was open mouth.
BECKEL: Let's let this one go, OK? Give Kimberly a break.
Now, I don't remember what mine was, but last year was to lose 20 pounds. I lost about four. And I can't think of what I did this year, what I said about a resolution. Oh, yes, my back, trying to get my back better, which is getting worse by the minute.
And by the way, New Year's Eve was so cold out there.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my gosh.
BECKEL: I mean, it was unbelievable.
GUTFELD: Where were you?
BECKEL: We were on the roof of the Knickerbocker Hotel, which is a famous old hotel, right?
GUILFOYLE: Yes, very famous, and it's going to open. They had a whole remodel/renovation. It's going to open Valentine's Day. It was fantastic. We had an awesome, awesome, you know, group with us. We had Kennedy. We had Joanne Nosuchinsky. We had Jesse, Anna who you discovered does work at FOX News Channel. You were confused.
GUTFELD: Sherrod Small.
GUILFOYLE: We had Sherrod Small, yes. Bernie McGuirk. So it was a great group.
BECKEL: We had two proposals, right?
GUILFOYLE: We had two proposals. And our great producers, Sean and Lauren, who were there were amazing. It was fun. It was a lot of fun, and they had food. Like, I actually got fed this year, so it was amazing.
BECKEL: Yes, it was amazing. It wasn't all that bad. It was -- I thought that Griff had his cowboy hat was a little bit too...
GUILFOYLE: Oh, yes. We had Griff, too, out in the field.
BECKEL: He and...
GUTFELD: What about the dude in Florida, what's his name?
GUILFOYLE: Phil.
GUTFELD: Phil.
BECKEL: Phil.
GUTFELD: Let's call him the dude, because he never seems like -- who cares?
BECKEL: Phil has the best job in FOX Sports.
GUILFOYLE: Bob keeps saying, "How do I get that job?
GUTFELD: I don't think he wears shoes.
BECKEL: I don't think he wears shoes. He probably had shorts on.
GUILFOYLE: I don't think he had shoes on. And he found like the hottest women you've ever seen.
BILA: Ever. GUILFOYLE: And Kennedy was like maybe next year, she can, like, buy a dress in her size. It was like this big.
BECKEL: I'll bet you -- I'll bet you it will feel good. I've never felt that well after midnight.
"One More Thing" is up next.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GUTFELD: Time for "One More Thing" -- Bob.
BECKEL: The country and the state of New York and the political establishment lost a great and wonderful public figure, and that's Mario Cuomo, who died at 82 yesterday. And this was Cuomo at the convention that I did in 1984.
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MARIO CUOMO, FORMER GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK: Mr. President, you ought to know that this nation is more a tale of two cities than it is just a shining city on a hill. The Republicans believe that the wagon train will not make it to the frontier unless some of the old, some of the young, some of the weak are left behind by the side of the trail.
We Democrats believe that we can make it all the way with the whole family intact, and we have more than once.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BECKEL: You know, that speech, we had to what they call vet every speech before the convention. Everybody has to turn it over, we have to look at it, make sure it's going to work. He refused to give it to me. I argued with him over and over again, but he decided to do it anyway. He gave a great speech. The guy was a great orator, I will say that. And a good man. and a good family person, so we'll miss him.
GUILFOYLE: Well, his family is going to miss him tremendously. I know his son, Chris, and his daughter-in-law, Christina. Great family. Great family.
GUTFELD: K.G.
GUILFOYLE: OK. So a little bit of more of the revelry from New Year's Eve. There was a proposal. No, not to not to me, but kind of almost. Listen to this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just want to ask you, will you marry me?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
BECKEL: Oh, man that's great. That is great.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you act -- I might accidentally slip the ring on Kimberly Guilfoyle's hand?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At first when I got down, I was like, make sure you grab the right hand.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUILFOYLE: Well, he was great. That was Staff Sergeant James Ragsdale (ph) with his fiancee. And now they're very excited to be together. They were sweethearts for a long time. They were wonderful to get to know them. We wish them all the best in their life together and for sharing it with us.
BECKEL: And somebody else proposed during the downtown...
GUILFOYLE: Yes, with Sherrod down there.
GUTFELD: That was a different kind of proposal.
Eric.
BOLLING: OK. First of all, I'm hosting "O'Reilly" tonight. Stick around. It's going to be a hot show. But it's the first Friday of the year, year, so what happens?
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
(MUSIC)
GRAPHIC: Fool of the Week
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BOLLING: And for the first "Fool of the Week" for the new year -- wait for it. The New York Times editorial board, who wrote this about the men and women, heroes who will protect us and serve us, NYPD, they said uses, quote, "acts of self-pity" and that they're, quote, "squandering the department's credibility." They also said the NYPD has used the funerals of the two assassinated cops to, quote, "hijack it for their own petty look-at-us gesture."
That's on the heels of Officer Ramos and Liu being laid to rest. For that for that NY --- New York Times editorial board, you guys are the "Fools of the Week."
GUTFELD: They're worse than fools.
BOLLING: Yes.
GUTFELD: They are -- I can't even say it.
GUILFOYLE: Don't say it. Please.
GUTFELD: Begins with an "A," ends with an "S."
GUILFOYLE: Right.
BOLLING: Jedediah.
BILA: Well, you guys all remember the movie "Back to the Future, Part 2." Just talking about this makes me feel old. But a lot of that movie takes place in place in 2015. And "Newsweek" is studying how accurate their vision of what 2015 would look like actually was.
Now, I don't know about you, but I do not have a hover board. I do not have a car that flies in the air. So I don't know. I mean, do you guys think guys think this is possible? Can we can we get some of these things before the end of the year so that "Back to the Future 2" will have gotten it right?
BECKEL: You know, there are many states of mind I was doing those things.
GUTFELD: Yes.
BECKEL: Years ago.
GUILFOYLE: They have these kind of, like, hoverboard skateboard things now.
BILA: I don't have one of those. Really? Wow.
GUTFELD: Life goes on, for some.
Joshua McCarroll, you might remember him
GUILFOYLE: Yes! Josh. Woo! Yes!
GUTFELD: Used to be on "Red Eye." He was the Matthew McConaughey corresponde-hey. And then he was also our booker at "Red Eye." And then he moved to "The Five," where he's been at "The Five" for many years.
He's moving on to start his own business. I have no idea what that business is, and I'm assuming it's entirely legal, though we can't be sure because Josh is a strange, strange man.
Anyway, we're going to miss you, Josh. We know you're going to be successful in anything -- or anyone -- you do.
BILA: We love you, Josh.
GUILFOYLE: We love you!
GUTFELD: Set your DVRs. Never miss an episode of "The Five." Have a great weekend. We'll see you here on Monday. "Special Report" is next.
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