Businessman Not Hiring Until 'Obama Is Gone'

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," November 25, 2011. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: So, Bill Looman is a Georgia businessman. He owns a company called U.S. cranes. He is not happy with the president. In fact, he is putting signs in his country truck that says, "New company policy, we are not hiring until Obama is gone."

Eric, being the reporter that you are, you called and talked to him today. What did he say?

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: I did. And I said, what inspired you? He said I was losing a lot of customers because people were moving to foreign countries. The business climate here is so bad they were leaving. So he said I put the sign up.

I said, what is the reaction? He said I have a little impromptu way to figure out the reaction. He counted how many people gave him thumbs up or another type of sign that different finger. He said out of 20 people, out of every 20 people, 19 of whom he got thumbs up and one out of the 20 used a different finger.

PERINO: Well, he is in Georgia, right, Bob?

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: The guy looks like Larry the Cable Guy.

One another thing I might want to point out to him is the reason all the people were leaving is because big business is shipping all the jobs overseas. Do you tell him that?

BOLLING: What they are, Bob, they're doing it because of tax rates.

BECKEL: By the way, he says this is not a political statement. Who is he kidding? I mean, give me a break, dude. It's not a political statement. We get it, OK?


BOLLING: Is this the liberal idea of free expression -- you should he be able to say what you want?

BECKEL: He can say everything he wants. I wouldn't get his vote. I could care less.

PERINO: But in the meantime, we have another thing -- we've been talking about the 1 percent. I want to figure out like who defines the 1 percent? And I think of this as made up number.

BECKEL: Census Bureau.

PERINO: Yes, I don't know. I'm not for it.

But one question has been whether or not people should be thankful --


PERINO: -- for 1 percent.

BECKEL: One percenters?

PERINO: Be thankful for 1 percent.

Andrea, you have a good point to make.

ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: My column yesterday in The New York Daily News, talked about how we should be thankful and grateful to the 1 percent. They are the ones taking risk. They are the ones investing in capital. They are the ones hiring.

Look, our bosses sign our check would be consider 1 percent of the millionaires and the billionaires by Bob.


TANTAROS: Someone like my father took risks, never took a nickel from the government, came here as an immigrant, built up restaurants by hard work. You'd consider him 1 percent, but he did a lot of good and gave a lot of people jobs.

BECKEL: I am delighted to hear. I know he did. That particularly his own family.


TANTAROS: And you know what? Look how I turned out.

BECKEL: Look how you turned out, right?

BECKEL: I want to tell you how much I thank the 1 percent. I thank them for getting the best tax breaks with anybody else for the last 30 years.

PERINO: That you took advantage of.

BECKEL: I thank them for getting inside information that they can trade on Wall Street.

BOLLING: Are you saying that you are one of them?

BECKEL: I am not one of them.

You're the 1 percent.

GUILFOYLE: You're 1 percent.

BECKEL: No, I am not.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, you are.


BECKEL: I will enjoy if I was a member of --

GUILFOYLE: The frequent flier miles.

PERINO: I want to bring up one other thing. Earlier this summer, we talked about and we were quite angry with some people that had decided to put in some "help wanted" ads. And they said at the bottom of the ad, they said, and if you are unemployed, you deem not apply. Remember we dumped all over those folks? Well, one of the things that was asked at the time was: should there be law to protect as a special class the unemployed from such behavior? Which we all dismiss as ridiculous. But now, there is actually legislation introduced -- you're for a protected class?

BOLLING: I took a lot of heat to saying the businesses should be allowed to hire who they want and they should be allowed to, say I don't want to hire someone --

PERINO: But you didn't say that the unemployed should be in a protected class. And be able to do it. Like trial lawyers.

BOLLING: But I did say that was ridiculous that we tell employers that they can't just hire --

PERINO: No, no, no. I am going to something else because there is legislation now that would make unemployed the protected class.

Bob, do you think this is something --

BECKEL: Absolutely. I don't think people should be horsed to hire people who are not qualified for job that's open, whether they've been unemployed for a long time or for a short time, or not unemployed at all. But people who are not hired simply because of their long-term unemployment, it is discrimination. It is a hate crime. It ought to be prosecuted.

GUILFOYLE: Oh, bob! That is extreme.

PERINO: So, Kimberly, in a court of law, how do you define that if you are a business?

GUILFOYLE: You don't define it like that. Let me tell you something, having prosecuted hate crimes, it doesn't even come close.

BECKEL: You don't find it hateful to not hire someone because they're unemployed?

GUILFOYLE: No, Bob, that is not the definition of a hate crime.

BECKEL: So, I wanted to ask --

GUILFOYLE: Racism and, right, and lynching things in the past, right? That's what I'm talking about.

BECKEL: Is there any different -- remember when old signs said Irish need not apply?

BOLLING: Can't it say four years experience required?


BOLLING: Well, why is not discrimination --


TANTAROS: Businesses should be able to do whatever they want. But if I'm a business owner, a lot of who are unemployed have PhDs. There's a lot of great talented people.

PERINO: One of the things that these companies are saying, though, is that they've already gotten the resumes of people who are unemployed. When they go out and they have said, if you are unemployed, you need not apply, that they are just trying to broaden out their pool to try to get people. That's not really.

BECKEL: What about the fact that they listed 3 million want ads every day? Did you see that in the research? Three million a day. Why are people not taking job jobs?

PERINO: Well, that is a great question. I have to tease

GUILFOYLE: Everybody can't be a protected class.


BECKEL: Sure they can.

PERINO: We have more coming up because I'm going to give Bob an etiquette lesson on communication. It should be fun. Moments away.

BECKEL: I don't know what "etiquette" means.

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