Brewer Pledges to Keep Fighting the Feds to Secure Arizona's Border

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," September 7, 2010. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.


SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ.: Of course, we have to get our borders secured anybody who doesn't think so come to Arizona. I would love for the president to visit the border. Unfortunately, he hasn't had time to do so.


HANNITY: All right, that was Senator John McCain this weekend inviting President Obama to come and visit the still struggling Arizona border, an invitation that has thus far been ignored.

The administration seems to be standing by its declaration earlier this year that the border is in fact secure.


JANET NAPOLITANO, HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: I know that border, I think as well as anyone.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think it's secure?

NAPOLITANO: And I will tell it is as secure now as it has ever been.


HANNITY: Really? Now clearly the White House has not seen our own William La Jeunesse's report on this very issue.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You haven't seen any border patrolman and I guarantee you won't see any along the border. There's nobody watching this place at all.

WILLIAM LA JEUNESSE, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Rancher Gary Trasher (ph) drives this road daily. What he sees is not what Washington says.

(on camera): So Secretary Napolitano says that the border has never been more secure. And yet you have ranchers in southeastern Arizona saying we've anyone seen it any worse. What's right?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Statistically, she's right. Honestly, she's absolutely wrong.

JEUNESSE (voice-over): Unlike heavily fortified border cities -- Yuma, San Diego -- areas in between are not.

(on camera): While it's true that the number of illegal immigrants caught is down, it doesn't mean the border is secure.


HANNITY: This disconnect is exactly why Arizona has taken matters into its own hands led by Governor Jan Brewer who signed the state's highly contested immigration bill into law.

Now while parts of it have already gone into effect, the Obama administration continues to file new lawsuits to prevent its enforcement. Here with an update on the border battle, is the woman who refuses to back down, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer. Governor, welcome back. Glad you're with us.

GOV. JAN BREWER, R-ARIZ.: Thank you, Sean. It's great to be with you.

HANNITY: Well, we appreciate it. Well, let's go back to what Janet Napolitano -- she had a very different take years ago when she was heading up Arizona. But she is now saying I know that the border -- I know it as well as anyone. It is secure now as it has ever been is that a factual, truthful statement?

BREWER: No, that is not a factual statement. Bottom line is that, you know, they can give all the statistics. They can give us all the data that they want, but, you know, it's the facts on the ground that count.

And I think anybody that has been paying any kind of attention to our borders they realize that they are not secured. We have an enormous amount of illegal immigration. We've got drug cartels coming across. It is out of control. It is just simply out of control.

We are grateful that we received a few more National Guard for a short period of time and some border patrol, but, you know, that's for a year. We need our borders secured, we need our fence built and we need the federal government to stand up and do their job.

We're just simply not going to back down. You know, Sean, it's just unbelievable that we as a state, a small state at that, that we have to sit here and defend ourselves from the violence coming across the border and from the statements that are being made by our federal government. Not only don't they protect us, but they sue us.

HANNITY: What is the status? You met with the president. You invited him to come to the border. We just heard from Senator John McCain, he has a open invitation to go down there. He told you what in the White House when you invited him to come see for himself?

BREWER: Well, he basically said that, you know, he sure would like to do that, but he didn't know if he would be available. Basically, the same thing when I kept asking for a meeting with him that his schedule was too busy.

But eventually he did succumb to meeting with me and you know, it was a donnybrook, I mean, basically, it was -- I'm telling him one thing and he's telling me the other. But, you know, the people of America --

HANNITY: But he's never been.

BREWER: No he's never been to our border, never.

HANNITY: Yes, all right, has there been any further contact with you and the president or the White House over your invitation, over the status? They filed the lawsuit, judge's ruling. You are battling back. Has there been any contact whatsoever?

BREWER: No, absolutely not.

HANNITY: All right -- let me ask you, they've taken it a step further. Now I guess America's favorite sheriff, pink underwear, tent city, baloney sandwiches, our good friend Joe Arpaio, now they are going after him. What do you make of the lawsuit or the attempt to make his life miserable?

BREWER: Well, you know, the bottom line is that we're all believing that the federal government is after Arizona and they are going after everybody. They don't want to do their job. So they just start filing lawsuits and attacking people.

Why don't they attack our border and get it secured. A lot of these issues would go away.

HANNITY: Politically, Governor, I don't think your poll numbers, correct me if I'm wrong, have ever been higher. Obviously, the people of Arizona agree with you. There are 20 governors now running -- I read this earlier today that are now running. They want to implement laws exactly like the one you've implemented. There are other states that have almost verbatim the same law that you have on, but they've not gone after those states. Rhode Island is one of them.

What do you make about the selective moral outrage in this case?

BREWER: Well, it's pretty offensive and it's pretty aggravating considering that, you know, there are other states that have or are going to implement the same basic law. The bottom line, Sean, is that it mirrors the federal law, my goodness. It's the same issue turning it over to the human rights committee at the U.N.

Why don't they turnover their law to the United Nations. I'm tired of fighting the feds. I'm tired of their tactics, but I won't give up. Arizona won't give up. I will tell you, you know, we are going to keep Arizona safe.

HANNITY: You know, there's a lot of speculation. A lot of people have come up with their own theories as to why they think this is happening. What do you think? Do you think this is about politics?

Do you think this is about vote gathering? Did you think this is, you know, breaking people into demographics? That the Democrats have calculated this will help them with the Hispanic vote in the country?

BREWER: All of the above. It's pretty obvious what is taking place. You know, it is all politics in regards to how they are behaving, there's absolutely no excuse for it.

I mean, it's -- you know, it's like the unions, the bottom line the unions are at the White House more than he is. You know, they're running our country.

HANNITY: All right, Governor, always a pleasure, thank you for being with us. Appreciate it.

BREWER: Thank you. Thank you for your support, Sean.

HANNITY: You bet. Thank you.

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