Why celebs remain profoundly clueless

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," July 11, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: So on a radio show, James Earl Jones went off on the right. I wonder if he said he thinks he figured out the Tea Party and he understands racism because he was taught to be racist by his grandmother.


JAMES EARL JONES, ACTOR: I think I figured out the Tea Party. I think -- I do understand racism because I was taught to be one by my grandmother. My grandmother was part Cherokee Choctaw Indian and part black. She hated everybody. She taught all of your children and grandchildren to be racist, to hate white people, and to distrust black people.


GUTFELD: It must be true. He has the deep voice.

Anyway, add another "Star Wars" vet to the bleeding hearts list along with Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford and Chewbacca, who's actually Howard Dean -- little known fact -- and, of course, there's George Lucas, too. He lives in a ranch which used to be Sonoma County. So, it's easy to be a liberal when you never really left outer space.

Now, you know Jones said this without being a Tea Party or discussing the simple platform of "taxed enough already." It's easier to play the race card now that the force has left Obi-wan Obama.

Actually, you can line this people up. Pelosi is the wide-eyed Princess Leia, saying nothing anyone understands. Nice hair.

Rahm Emanuel is Yoda -- the tiny string-puller behind the scenes.

Obama, of course, is Obi-wan, the wise angel sent to save us from the evil empire, i.e. the Bushes, Ms. Perino.

I think that makes Biden R2D2. I'm not sure how that happened.

Now, I love James Earl Jones. He's a military vet and he's a great man. But what bugs me is how many younger actors work in films about evil when it's not their skill set. So many remain clueless because their choices are made by other people, agents, assistants, masseuses.

It's why you never run into Tim Robbins buying lotion at Walgreens. He sends Sean Penn who also ends up in the wrong aisle snorting baby powder.

I want to apologize to Bob for yelling at him. I didn't mean to do that. It was in good fun.

All right. Do you -- I love James Earl Jones.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Are you going to apologize?

GUTFELD: No, that was a fake apology. Even Bob knows that.

Do you know he made this assessment without the benefit of talking to a Tea Partier? But it's hard to argue because his voice is so good.

PERINO: But they read The New York Times. That's all you need to know.

GUTFELD: But it makes you want to talk him. Like I want to talk to James Earl Jones and go look, you know? I believe what you said about your background but I don't think you understand what the Tea Party is.

ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: I want to know why everyone throwing their grandma under the bus?

Remember, Barack Obama said his grandmother was racist and James Earl Jones throwing his under the bus. Can anyone just leave grandmas alone?

PERINO: I don't think my grandparents ever talked about it.

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: My grandmother wore a veil. I want to throw her under bus, but that scared a hell a lot me.

TANTAROS: My grandmother wore all black. He had plenty of things to say that I would never be allowed on this show.

BECKEL: First of all, let me just say, I think the idea of Jones making this comment about the Tea Party, whether he knows it or not, I have been tough on the Tea Party as you know. I don't find racism involved in the Tea Party at all. I find a lot of the not smart thinking but not racism.

And I think that's -- I wouldn't say that if I were him.

GUTFELD: That's progress, though.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Could someone get Beckel --

GUTFELD: That's amazing.

TANTAROS: Are you feeling all right? Are you OK?

GUTFELD: The thing is, if you can actually say what you believe in is stupid, if someone said, look, your feelings about food stamps you're an idiot. But you're not racist. I like that.

BOLLING: You know why I'm an idiot?


BOLLING: I'm the only human being who never saw "Star Wars." Any of 'em.

GUTFELD: Really?

BOLLING: That whole monologue was just like --

PERINO: I remember -- there is, I believe it was near Arapaho Road, in Denver, it's called Century 21, like huge movie theater and we got to see "Star Wars." It was one of my first movies. I saw "The Muppet Movie," too.


GUTFELD: I heard you were stump double in the muppet movie.

BOLLING: Thank you. Andrea never saw it either.


BOLLING: We were busy doing other fun stuff.

GUTFELD: It was great! I mean, Captain Kirk and Lenard Nimoy, the things they did on the Enterprise. It's amazing film.

BECKEL: You were smoking the same stuff I was when you went there.

GUTFELD: If I smoked the same stuff --

BECKEL: Did you go to "Fantasia" stoned?

GUTFELD: "Fantasia," no, but I saw it on field trip. It scared me. I never liked "Fantasia." Did you?

PERINO: I don't know what that is.

BECKEL: Dancing brooms.

GUTFELD: It bothered me. Disturbed me.

BOLLING: I guess I was playing baseball or something.

BECKEL: I guess you were, wuss.

TANTAROS: I was serving up eggs.


GUTFELD: Everybody saw "Fantasia." Even if you didn't see the movie at some point you did.

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