Talking with your hands: Who's Right and Who's Wrong?

This is a rush transcript from "Watters' World," March 16, 2019. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

JESSE WATTERS, HOST: Welcome to "Watters' World." I'm Jesse Watters. The political games begin after a devastating massacre hits two mosques in New Zealand. A gunman opening fire on worshippers in the city of Christchurch, killing at least 49 people and injuring dozens more.

But the left already blaming the President.


MAYOR BILL DE BLASIO, D-NEW YORK CITY: There is an intolerance that is being spread in this country, in this world, and it comes from the political dialogue. Let's be clear, it comes from political leaders.

SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, D-CONN.: Words do have consequences and we know that at the very pinnacle of power in our own country, people are talking about good people on both sides.

JOHN BERMAN, ANCHOR, CNN: It's all about invaders. It's all about invaders, which is similar language to the killer at the synagogue in Pittsburgh. It's also the language that President Trump used in the campaign ad before the midterm election. The word invader means something to white supremacists around the world.


WATTERS: Here with reaction, counselor to the President, Kellyanne Conway. Kellyanne, this really bothers me because, the media is lying about this guy.

He is a kook. He is an absolute lunatic. And I read his manifesto and what the media is saying about the manifesto is total BS. This guy says - and this is a quote, "The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People's Republic of China." He says he's not a conservative, not a Nazi. He is inspired by all of these other whack jobs, not Donald Trump. He calls himself an eco-nationalist obsessed with fertility rates. He is a racist who thinks immigrants are overpopulating the earth and causing global warming.

This is who this guy is. He's not a Donald Trump acolyte, yet the media is putting all the blame on the right and the President's supporters.

KELLYANNE CONWAY, COUNSEL TO PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, you're right. They immediately politicize everything. They do something else. They insert themselves. "I must speak. I must say something." No, you don't. You can actually shut up and pray for people and wait for the authorities to make their judgments.

And in fact, you can also get the facts from the United States authorities, New Zealand. Look at what the President said right away, condemning violence, condemning hate, standing with the people of New Zealand. People believe that we should all be safe everywhere, but in our places of worship, certainly. And don't do things that will inspire a copycat.

So actually, this manifesto provided information that we haven't had in other mass shootings, which is clear evidence of who this person is and what motivates him, but don't let that get in the way of having a conclusion in search of evidence.

And there's something else going on, you played a couple of clips. I've been noticing in the last two, three, four weeks as it is increasingly obvious, they have no idea how to defeat Donald Trump in 2020, they keep talking about the 2016 campaign. It's kind of a little weird. They're playing all of these clips constantly and I think it's because they don't want to cover the economy, they don't want to cover the strides he's making around the world, they don't want to cover how he is rebalancing trade. They don't want to cover the fact that he says we have a humanitarian and national security crisis at our own border.

And this past Friday, provided the first veto of his Presidency because he believes that, but the media don't let any of that get in the way. They never let the facts get in the way of their opinions, and by the way, they are speaking to each other. They are not informing the public. They are giving opinions. That's not news.

Give us news and if you are waiting on the news, we can be patient and wait on the news.

WATTERS: You're right. They are not informing the public. They are actually lying to the public because I just proved it.

CONWAY: You just proved it.

WATTERS: You mentioned the immigration situation. They had the vote in the senate, 59-41. And I just want to read the Republican senators who broke with the President on the national emergency declaration on the border. Just so they're aware. It's Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Lamar Alexander, Mitt Romney, Jerry Moran, Pat Toomey, Rob Portman, Roger Wicker, Marco Rubio, and Roy Blunt.

I understand they have their own reasons for doing this. Congress passed the national emergency declaration. Are they saying that Congress passed an unconstitutional act? What is the act there if it's not to be used? I understand their point, but at the same time there is an emergency and you've got to do something because the Democrats do not want to protect the country.

CONWAY: Well, this is not a constitutional crisis, it's a national security crisis at our border. That's what I would call 76,000 migrant aliens being apprehended in February of this year alone.

That's what I would call nine and ten-year-old girls being pumped with birth control by their families before they come here and then being administered pregnancy tests when they get into our border because we know how perilous the journey can come. We know how many women are being sexually assaulted on the journey.

I would call it a crisis that we have tons and tons of drugs pouring over our borders into our communities. I would call it a crisis that people are being smuggled and MS-13 gangs and other criminal cartels are coming over the border. That's not everyone. But it shouldn't be one.

If it's one, it's ten too many. And so this President has been consistent for four years now, Jesse. We have a crisis at the border. He tried to let Congress do its job. The Congress and the courts have fallen down on the job. They failed to do it and he is invoking a Congressional Act from 1976. It is 43 years old.

If you don't like that act, then go ahead, Congress and undo that act. But they don't have the guts to do that. So we don't have a constitutional crisis here, we have a humanitarian security crisis.

Also, there is a surprise that some of the senators who voted with the President against the disapproval resolution, which he vetoed anyway, that they are running in 2020. You know why? Because they hear in North Carolina and in Nebraska and a couple of other places, they hear their voters and their people say, "Excuse me, you better get back to Washington and do your job and secure that border."

WATTERS: All right, Kellyanne, there she is at the White House. Thank you very much.

CONWAY: Thank you, Jesse.

WATTERS: Time now for some other real news you probably didn't hear at all this week. An illegal immigrant that I.C.E. tried to detain nine times is facing murder charges.

Police in California say Carlos Eduardo Arevalo Carranza stalked Bambi Larson before stabbing her to death in her San Jose home. Authorities say, the El Salvador national had known gang ties and faced previous drug and burglary charges.

Officials calling out the state's so-called sanctuary laws that they say shielded the perp.


EDDIE GARCIA, SAN JOSE POLICE CHIEF: Let me be clear. We are here to protect and to embrace our otherwise law-abiding undocumented residents. We are not here nor should we be here to shield admitted gangsters or violent criminals regardless of immigration status.


WATTERS: Meanwhile, the Governor of the Golden State, Gavin Newsom signing an Executive Order placing a moratorium on the death penalty in California.

But in 2016, California has not only shot down ballot measures aimed at abolishing the death penalty, but they passed a measure to expedite executions by shortening the appeals process.

The order giving a reprieve to the state's 737 condemned inmates including cold-blooded killers like Scott Peterson, the grim sleeper, and the dating game killer.

Newly released transcripts from Lisa Page's closed door testimony last year revealing it wasn't former FBI Director James Comey's decision to exonerate Hillary. In fact, the decision coming from Comey's Superiors at the Obama Justice Department.

"Watters' World" told you about the massive $275 million lawsuit was filed against CNN for their coverage of Covington Catholic student Nick Sandmann, but the lawsuits haven't ended there. The boy's lawyers revealing they are just getting started.


TODD MCMURTRY, CO-COUNSEL FOR NICHOLAS SANDMANN: We are looking very closely at NBC, we're looking very closely at AP, we're looking very closely at HBO for the conduct of Bill Maher. We are looking at some of the people like Kathy Griffin who sent out these horrible tweets that are called doxxing.


WATTERS: In other legal news, Michael Avenatti and porn start, Stormy Daniels are calling it quits. The creepy porn lawyer dumping her for quote, "various reasons" that we cannot disclose publicly due to attorney- client privilege.

Avenatti adamant, he ended things telling CNBC "I terminated the relationship," not the other way around.

Media Matters President, Angelo Carusone is crusading against our own Tucker Carlson. So the "Daily Caller" did a little digging into his past unearthing past inflammatory comments on an old blog on everything from transvestites to Jewish people. Check it out. Total hypocrite.

On a happier note, this week, Mitt Romney celebrated his 72nd birthday. But it's this awkward video of him blowing out the candles one by one on a cake compiled of Twinkies that has people wondering why.

Here to react, nationally syndicated radio host of "The Dana Show," Dana Loesch. So Dana, let's take this thing out California where it's absolutely atrocious, what's going on? Not only are they bringing people into the state from another country that end up killing people, they are also taking the killers who are on death row for killing other people and they are letting them skate. What's going on out there?

DANA LOESCH, SYNDICATED RADIO SHOW HOST: This state -- and Jesse, this state and these policies, these sanctuary state, sanctuary city policies, this is insane. Every time I hear one of these stories, I think it can't get any worse and then I hear about Bambi Larson for instance.

I mean, this woman stalked by this guy. They ignored the I.C.E. detainer nine times and then finally, after he killed someone, that tenth time they decided to say, "Well, I guess, we're going to cooperate with I.C.E. this time."

He was convicted in 2016 of battery on an officer, convicted in 2015 of narcotics. Apparently, he had loads of meth, perhaps with the intent to distribute. I think was one of the charges. He had been deported repeatedly. His rap sheet was so long, but apparently the State of California wants to prioritize the comfort and indulge those who enter the country illegally and put that as a priority over the law-abiding citizens like Bambi Larson.

I mean, this echoes so much of what we heard with -- remember Jamiel Shaw, Sr. and his son Jamiel Shaw, Jr. which is one of the most heartbreaking stories I've ever heard. How many innocent people have to pay with their blood for the cost of these sanctuary state policies? And I think that that is what Democrats need to answer. All of these primary candidates, all of these 2020 primary candidates endorse these policies. They have a lot of explaining to do to these people.

WATTERS: Right, and it's not just Jamiel. Remember Kate Steinle? Bambi is now the new Kate Steinle, and if you have someone assaulting a police officer and distributing methamphetamine. And you're not going to obey and I.C.E. detainer, what are you going to obey? It's total lawlessness out there. California has blood on its hands, and whenever you try to sue a state or a city for something like this, some judge tosses the thing for God knows why, so you can never have any accountability.

Speaking of -- you're right, they should have reporters all over City Hall, all over the Governor's Mansion in California and not only that, all -- Kamala Harris, Beto -- they should be asked to answer for something as deadly as this because they support this.

LOESCH: Yes, absolutely. These criminals, there is no deterrent established. That's what this proves. It tells criminals and people who enter illegally, you can continue to do crimes. You will be protected here. These thugs thrive on the indulgence of this coddling by the Judicial System and it has got to stop.

WATTERS: Right, and you know, Newsom out there, ignoring this referendum for people that want to speed up the death penalty in California. He's not going to listen to the voters. He really doesn't care. He just cares about 2024. Imagine if he did this with weed and California voters say, "We want to legalize weed." And he said, "No." You'd have some pretty angry stoners out there.

I want to turn to another California scandal, a lot of this is based in California. This college admissions scheme, Dana. I'm sick of these Hollywood liberals talking about income inequality and white privilege, and the lies coming out of this White House and the corruption.

Meanwhile, they are doing exactly what they accuse the right of in scamming the system in higher education.

LOESCH: No, that's exactly right. As much as they go after the President and his family and they try to talk about nepotism and easy going. Look at all of the stuff that has come out about this story.

I read an article last night, Jesse that was discussing how Aunt Becky, Lori Loughlin, which I am still just rocked by this, her daughter -- her youngest daughter that was going to USC, apparently, her grade point average was below their lowest level of acceptance. Like, she didn't even academically qualify to get into USC, but yet, they were making these exceptions for her and she was saying, "Well, I don't really care about school. I just want to go party and go to the games."

And I am thinking, how many hard working students out there have sacrificed so much so that they could get into this school? And you are not skating in and you are not even academically qualified to go there. These are our moral bettors, Jesse, remember? These are the people that went out there with the "Vote for Hillary" stickers and they were deriding all of us as being racist and bigots because we were considering something different than Hillary Clinton back in 2016.

And now look where it has gotten them? They are as entitled or more entitled than the people that they always accuse of entitlement. So I am just kind of sitting back and watching this happen. My only concern though, and this is sort of selfish is how this is going to affect "Full House" and Hallmark. Like who is going to save the snow globe factory if Lori Loughlin isn't in a particular role in Hallmark because they've dropped her. Netflix has dropped her. Sephora has now dropped her daughter. And there is apparently going to be a lot more coming out. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

WATTERS: Do you dare you mess with the "Full House" repeats. That would just be an absolute tragedy. Lastly, I just wanted to get your opinion on the shooting in New Zealand. It's now being blamed on conservatives. It is being blamed on Donald Trump.

I just remember when the Bernie bro shot up Steve Scalise at the baseball game. The media was very, very, very into separating Bernie from any culpability. And even conservatives on this network said, you know, you cannot blame a politician or a network host for some action from a crazy person, yet they are doing it here. I'll give you the last word.

LOESCH: Yes, they are doing it here. Two things on this -- evil doesn't have a particular look. It doesn't have a particular type. Evil is real though and we saw it in Christchurch. Absolutely horrific.

And the second thing about this is this monster purposely mentioned things in his ridiculous troll diatribe which I would encourage people to just ignore because he's trying to draw everyone into this giant race war. He is trolling everyone. He mentions people to try to incite further violence and pit people against each other.

This guy was a terrorist. No one should ever be afraid in a house of worship and for people to try to pin this on conservatives or the President of the United States, you know, you just mentioned the murderer who was working with Bernie Sanders on his campaign. Like I said, evil is real, it exists everywhere and by playing into that blame game, you are doing exactly what this terrorist wants. You are finishing his job for him.

WATTERS: You're right. All right, Dana Loesch everybody. There she is. Thanks for coming on "Watters' World."

LOESCH: Good to see you, Jesse.

WATTERS: Beto O'Rourke and his crazy hands are running for President and Nancy Pelosi in a pickle over impeachment. That's next.


WATTERS: Beto O'Rourke officially throwing his hat into the ring for a 2020 presidential run. But it's his hands that are garnering the most attention. Watch this.


BETO O'ROURKE, D-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There is going to be massive migration of tens or hundreds of millions of people from countries that are literally uninhabitable or under water that are above the sea right now. This is our final chance.

The scientists are unanimous on this that we have no more than 12 years to take incredibly bold action on this crisis.


WATTERS: President Trump sizing him up this way.


DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT: I think he's got a lot of hand movement. I've never seen so much hand movement. I said, "Is he crazy or is that just the way he acts?" So, I've never seen hand movement. I watched him a little while this morning doing, I assume it was some kind after news conference and I've actually never seen anything quite like it. Study it, I am sure you will agree.


WATTERS: No word on the nickname yet, but I'm sure it is only a matter of time. Joining me now Wisconsin Congressman, Sean Duffy and the host of "The Michael Knolls Show" Michael Knolls. All right, Congressman, the hands, this way, this way -- I think it's mesmerizing.

I'm not listening to a word he's saying, I'm just look at the hands.

REP. SEAN DUFFY, R-WIS.: I've got to tell you, Jesse, as a hand speaker myself, I am a little sensitive, but I can tell you, even to Donald Trump, to be a guy who pulls out some weird quirk within a candidate who is challenging him, and absolutely destroy him.

I think what the media wants to create here, Jesse, is they want to create an empty vessel like they did Barack Obama and craft this unique character, Donald Trump didn't exist in 2008 in politics. He is going to destroy whatever they create in Beto O'Rourke.

WATTERS: He is even emptier than Barack Obama if that is saying anything, and Michael, the President needs to be careful he doesn't destroy these candidates too early. He wants to run against Beto. I mean, look what he did to Elizabeth Warren. She is toast now. I bet he probably would have laid off a little bit earlier so she became the nominee. Is there a risk in annihilating these people too early?

MICHAEL KNOLLS, HOST, THE MICHAEL KNOLLS SHOW: Absolutely. And luckily, President Trump can't give Beto O'Rourke a nickname because Beto O'Rourke gave himself a nickname. His real name is Robert Francis. He goes by Beto.

So just in the future, I would like to ask that you exclusively refer to me as Pedro, if Robert Francis O'Rourke can go by Beto, then I'd like to play racial identity politics, too.

Obviously, right now Beto O'Rourke is trying to play both sides of every question. On the one hand, he says "I'm a capitalist," on the other hand, he says, "The world is going to end in 12 years if we don't implement the Green New Deal and have a whole government takeover of the economy."

This is very Obama-esque. It's very Obama-esque that's he's never accomplished anything other than be in the government. He is going to have to define himself before one of his opponents or his ultimate opponent, President Trump defines him for him and I don't see which way Mr. Holden Coffee Beto O'Rourke writing his whiney teen diaries like Jack Kerouac is actually going to be able to eventually depict himself.

WATTERS: Well, you mentioned the fact that he says the world is going to end in 12 years, and I remember when the President gave his acceptance speech at the RNC and he has talked about carnage in the manufacturing sector and Middle America losing jobs and having how that depressing that was going to be, and the media all said that was dark.

Now flip the switch, and you have a presidential candidate on the other side not talking about people losing jobs, Congressman, talking about people losing their lives. And he is saying everybody is going to die and the media doesn't say that's dark. They thank Beto for warning them they only have 12 years left.

DUFFY: Wait, Jesse, are you saying the media is not fair in the way they analyze Republicans versus Democrats? Of course, they're not fair.

WATTERS: It's breaking news.

DUFFY: And the bottom line is -- I am in Wisconsin, they want to kill all my cows. What happens to all my farmers? I look at Beto and I mean, he is an empty suit and he's a guy who is a white male. And if you are a white meat running in the Democratic Party, you are absolutely out from the beginning.

So Beto plays well to make him seem like he might be Hispanic, but he is Robert Francis. He is white. He is a male and that's an absolute disadvantage in the Democratic primaries.

WATTERS: Well, he apologized for being white and said that I understand if you guys aren't going to vote for me because of my race and that's fine, vote for someone else.

Personally, I just think the media loves him because the media wants to be him. He's the king of the nerds. He went to Columbia. He skateboards. He likes podcasts. They are going to worship at Beto's feet for the next two years.

All right, let's go to Nancy who is in a real pickle on impeachment. She told the "Washington Post" that she is not going to do it unless it's bipartisan which it is not going to be because she thinks it would divide the country. Now, the left wing freaking out in her party. Listen to those people, really, disagree with the leader. Roll it.


REP. AL GREEN, D-TX: I do not believe that an unfit President should be allowed to stay in office.

Bigotry is impeachable.

REP. RASHIDA TLAIB, D-MICH.: We are beginning the process to look at some of these alleged claims that -- you know, impeachable offenses.

REP. ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ, D-N.Y.: And I know a lot of members in the caucus have a different opinion, but that's why we caucus.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you have a different opinion?

OCASIO-CORTEZ: I happen to, yes.


WATTERS: All right, so Mike, so if the people want to impeach and they put the articles on the floor and people have to vote. Is going to put those swing district Democrats in a really tough spot and Pelosi might lose the gavel in two years if they overreach. How do you see it?

KNOLLS: This is exactly right. Pelosi can read the numbers just as well as you and I can. Only, 36% maybe up to 42% of Americans would support impeachment. She could get blown out of the House. She could become the Minority Leader as she has learned the lessons of the Clinton impeachment era. And so she certainly doesn't want to do this.

The other aspect is, she really needs to maintain control of her own party. Because if she lets these young radicals push her around, dictate the agenda, then she will be a Speaker in name only.

WATTERS: That's true. She already lost control with the Green New Deal and that's become a humiliating catastrophe. She lost control over the anti-Semitism vote and if impeachment doesn't go her way, she has lost total control. What has she done, Congressman besides try to rule over an unruly freshman class?

DUFFY: Well, the bottom line is she hasn't gotten the memo yet that she is the Speaker, but she is not the leader of the Party. It's AOC, it's Tlaib, it's Omar. This radical left group are the ones that are controlling the Democratic Party right now and they are going to impeach, make no mistake, no matter what Nancy Pelosi says. And to Michael's point, here is what it says --

WATTERS: It is going to go nowhere in the Senate because you need over 60 in the senate.

DUFFY: Yes, two-thirds.

WATTERS: But I'm delighting in the kind of the left-wing tea party drama that is playing out on the Democratic side. The Republicans had that a few years back, and I think Boehner has some bruise to show for it. Let's see if Pelosi can survive. I am not so sure she can.

Michael, Congressman --

DUFFY: I don't know.

WATTERS: Thank you guys very much.

DUFFY Thanks, Jesse. Good to see you.

WATTERS: Still ahead. "Who is Right and Who is Wrong" with Abby and Carley. Probably me. But first, a group of women who say they are not going to have kids for the sake of the planet. The Birth Strike Movement joins me next.


AISHAH HASNIE, CORRESPONDENT: Live from "America's News Headquarters," I'm Aishah Hasnie. Fifty people are now dead in the New Zealand mosque attacks after police found yet another victim at the crime scenes. The police commissioner says 36 people remain in the hospital, two are in critical condition. Memorials are still growing across the city of Christchurch. Mourners have been paying their respects to the victims. The shooter has been charged with one count of murder, but more charges are expected to follow.

Yellow Vest protesters filling the streets of Paris for the 18th straight weekend. Demonstrators set fires across the city and at one point, a mother and child had to be rescued from a burning building. More than a hundred people have been arrested. They have been protesting since last November over policy set by French President, Emmanuel Macron. I am Aishah Hasnie, now back to "Watters' World."


OCASIO-CORTEZ: There is scientific consensus that the lives of children are going to be very difficult, and it does lead, I think, young people to have a legitimate question, you know, should -- is it okay to still have children?


WATTERS: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez cautioning millennials about climate change and posing the question whether people should even be having more kids. But the movement reaches much further than D.C. Women in Great Britain refusing to have children until global warming ends.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can't have a child until I'm absolutely convinced that we are on a seriously, seriously different path.


WATTERS: Here to explain, the founder of Birth Strike, Blythe Pepino. Okay, Blythe, what are the risks in your opinion of having a child?

BLYTHE PEPINO, FOUNDER, BIRTH STRIKE: There aren't any risks to having a child as in giving birth, do you mean or in their future?

WATTERS: If you give birth, which you are refusing to do, but if you get pregnant and give birth, what would be the problem to the world or to your child?

PEPINO: The problem that we are talking about is that we are afraid for these kids' futures.

WATTERS: How would you be afraid of their future?

PEPINO: We are afraid for their futures.

WATTERS: But what could happen to the child when they grow up?

PEPINO: Well, what we are looking at in the next few decades, the end of the century is worldwide famine --

WATTERS: Famine.

PEPINO: Mass displacement of people, yes, famine, food shortages across the world as a result of drought in the places where we grow food around the world and how we feed ourselves. We are also looking at mass displacement of people. We are talking five to six billion refugees as a result of climate change within our countries and from around the world.

WATTERS: Okay, so you think if you have a baby and that baby grows up, they are not going to have anything to eat because climate change will cause massive droughts and food shortages. Do you really believe we are not going to have any food in a couple of years because of climate change?

PEPINO: Not in a couple of years, no, in a few decades to the end of the century.

WATTERS: Because for decade people on the left or in the media have been predicting the polar ice caps are going to melt. Remember, Al Gore said they would be melted by now and in the 70s and 80s and 90s, they all said that the earth was going to end and there were going to be -- Manhattan was going to be swimming and it was going to sink. These things never happened. What makes you so sure they will if everyone has been wrong before?

PEPINO: I'm not going to contest with you about the predictions around ecological breakdown. You should just go and look up the science yourself.

WATTERS: Well, I have. I mean, the science isn't always right. I mean, the scientists said Y2K --

PEPINO: The scientist now have consensus around this.

WATTERS: Okay, well there was consensus that Y2K was also going to meltdown the entire world.

PEPINO: The fact that you are arguing this point, do you have a family? Do you you even have a family?


PEPINO: Do you have a wife? Do you have children?

WATTERS: Yes, I have children, yes.

PEPINO: Well, are you worried about them? Are you worried about their futures?

WATTERS: No, I think they are going to be great. I don't think they are going to starve. I think they are going to have plenty to eat.

PEPINO: Well, I look forward to 20 to 30 years' time when that's the case. I really hope that you are right.

WATTERS: Well, I mean, I think I am right and I just don't believe the science because it's not all there.

PEPINO: Because you have been told not to believe the science by your government. You have been told to not believe the science by your government and now you don't believe it because it suits you because you live in a western country where things aren't happening in your country just yet except for the forest fires that happened in California, except for the other things that are happening as a result of climate change.

WATTERS: Blythe, do you remember when all the scientists --

PEPINO: So you can just continue to ignore it and continue to not inform your country of what is happening --

WATTERS: Do you remember when all the scientists thought that the world was the center of the universe? Blythe --

PEPINO: But it's coming for us all. That's all I've got to say.

WATTERS: Blythe, do you remember when all of the scientists said earth was the center of the universe? There was scientific consensus about the geocentric theory? Well, it was wrong. It was wrong. Y2K was wrong.

PEPINO: You guys are [bleep].

WATTERS: The germ theory was wrong. There has been a lot of errors in the scientific community. And what happens if you have a kid who solves the climate crisis? You'd be denying the world --

PEPINO: We haven't got time. We haven't got time for that. It's over. It's finished.

WATTERS: maybe your son or daughter could become a Nobel Peace winning scientist and get us all off fossil fuels. Why would you deny the world that chance?

PEPINO: We haven't got time. Have you not listened to anything that people are telling you.

WATTERS: I'm listening, I'm just not believing.

PEPINO: Well, then, it's a problem with belief then, isn't it?

WATTERS: Okay, well, maybe belief, maybe gullibility, but Blythe, I wish you well and do you fly, by the way. Do you drive?

PEPINO: I've stopped flying now. I do drive a bit.

WATTERS: Okay, because that's going to kill us all, too, so you might want to start walking.

PEPINO: Don't put it on the individual. This is down to corporations and down to governments like yours ignoring telling the truth about it.

WATTERS: You put it on the individual yourself by not --

PEPINO: No, I haven't put it on the individual. I have made a decision because I'm afraid for the child I would bring into the world. This is anti-neonates less movement.

WATTERS: Okay, well, I have got to go. Blythe, I respect your belief.

PEPINO: No, you don't, if you respected my belief you would actually go and have a look for yourself.

WATTERS: Okay, well, I looked before the segment, I just disagree. But we can have a difference of opinion.

PEPINO: I'm sure we can, yes.

WATTERS: Thank you.

PEPINO: Thank you.

WATTERS: Very much.


WATTERS: All right, still ahead. Beto's hands. What's the deal? We are going to debate it and first though, Diamond and Silk on de Blasio, the First Lady, and that crazy college admissions scandal, up next.


WATTERS: A crazy conspiracy theory about Melania Trump using a body double is back again after these images of the President and the First Lady visiting tornado ravaged Alabama last week were released.

Joining me now, Diamond and Silk. Melania has got a body double? Is that what they have now, ladies, come on?

DIAMOND, HOST: Listen, this is just pure conspiracy theory. Look, keep in mind now, when they was alleging that Hillary Clinton had a body double, the left was quiet about that. remember, this is salacious gossip. This is what we consider fake news. They want to know why we think they are fake, this is why because they always are conjuring up this kind of foolishness that try to smear our First Lady instead of uplifting her, which is so sad.

SILK, HOST, FOX NATION: That's right, and keep in mind, the left seems to be full of conspiracy theory.

WATTERS: Do you guys have any body doubles?

DIAMOND: No. ain't nobody be like Diamond. No, no. There will never be another one of me. That's right.

WATTERS: I was a body double for David Schwimmer one time on "Friends." But I gained a little weight and they kicked me off.


SILK: Okay.

WATTERS: All right, now, the next topic I want to talk to you guys about that is Bill de Blasio, meatless Mondays. He doesn't want students eating any meat on Monday because of global warming.

Listen to this guy.


DE BLASIO: This is important on so many levels, but I've got to say, if you're thinking about our kids individually, we want them to be as healthy as they can be and we want them to learn as well as they can learn and meatless Mondays will help. It will create more balance in their lives.

We are talking about our climate, the existential threat of global warming. This is something we do that's another contribution to addressing global warming, striking more of a balance in our whole society.


WATTERS: So kids don't have tacos on Monday and the Earth's temperature is going to drop? Ladies, do you guys buy that or not?

DIAMOND: Okay, first of all, I get tired of them talking about this climate change, global warming, we can't help what Mother Nature do. You can put all of these things in place and still Mother Nature would take its course.

As far as Meatless Monday, leave our children's lunches alone. Michelle Obama messed with their lunches and the kids wouldn't eat it. Leave it alone. And we are not concerned about Meatless Monday. We are concerned about that $850 million that was lost under his wife? What happened to the $850 million? That's what we want him to talk about. Not that Meatless Monday. We don't want to know where's the beef? Where's the money?

SILK: Where's the money?

WATTERS: Okay, I am not sure we'll ever find it, but we will keep looking. Also, this college admissions scandal really getting nasty. One of the daughters of, I believe, Lori Loughlin was involved in it. Here is what she said as she was going to school. Listen to this.


OLIVIA JADE GIANNULLI, DAUGHTER OF LORI LOUGHLIN: And then the whole college thing, yes, I'm going. I'm living in a dorm with a roommate. I do want the experience of like game days and partying. I don't really care about school as you guys all know.


WATTERS: So they greased some administrator to get her into school and she doesn't even want to be in school. She just wants to party.

DIAMOND: This is what's -- okay, self-entitlement. When children are raised to have a sense of entitlement, like you're supposed to do certain things for me, this is what you create that. You created that. When you don't teach your kids to work hard, this is what you create. But I blame the parents for scamming their way to the top and kicking everybody in the face at the bottom is so sad. It's disrespectful and it's embarrassing.

I'm embarrassed for them and people keep saying white privilege, no, this is about green privilege. If you have the money, you can buy whatever you want, even your own education, even you being smart.

SILK: That's right.

WATTERS: That's right. That's right. Money does solve a lot of problem. All right, ladies, Diamond and Silk who cannot have enough money because the "Chit-Chat Tour" is blowing up. We'll see you guys next week.

All right, next, "Who is Right and Who is Wrong" with Abby and Carley. Coming up next.


WATTERS: We've spent a lot of time talking about Beto's crazy hand today, so it begs to ask, is the hand thing good or bad for Beto. Joining me now for today's installment of "Who's Right and Who's Wrong," Fox Nation host Abby Hornacek and Fox News "24/7 Headline" reporter, Carley Shimkus.

Carley, when you see Beto the hands going all around, the jazz hands and what not, is it mesmerizing or is it distracting?

CARLEY SHIMKUS, REPORTER: I didn't notice it until President Trump pointed it out.

WATTERS: Are you blind, Carley?

SHIMKUS: Listen, he has a way of honing in on the one thing that everybody is subconsciously thinking and then it becomes the only thing that people focus on. And there is no greater example of that than low energy Jeb.


SHIMKUS: And I really feel like that changed the way people --

WATTERS: Low energy Jeb. Look at him here. Look at him here. What is this?

SHIMKUS: Yes, so much so that Jimmy Fallon did a parody of his announcement video and he was doing the crazy hand gestures, too, so it's even made late night.

WATTERS: Do you like the hand thing or not?

ABBY HORNACEK, HOST, FOX NATION: You know, I have to be really aware of this, too, because I'm tall so I have large hands, and I've talked with my hands before.

WATTERS: You could hit someone and knock him out.

HORNACEK: I can knock him out or if I put it up by my face, it's the same size as my face, you know.

WATTERS: So, yes, be careful on set, you might knock Carley.

HORNACEK: Right, I know. I am okay with it if he's using it. I noticed, I watched the video a few times and he is doing this to every time he lists something, I'm okay with that.

SHIMKUS: He's young, he's fresh.

HORNACEK: But when he does it too many times, it's a little distracting.

WATTERS: He's high energy.

SHIMKUS: Yes, he's high energy. That's right. Yes, so, there are probably worse things than his hand gestures.

WATTERS: Okay, well, we'll find out because we know more about it. All right, so Russell Westbrook, he is on the thunder. He got into it with one of the fans at Utah Jazz game. Watch this.


WATTERS: Yes, so you and your wife.


WATTERS: So, Abby, you know, you are a basketball person here. What is the standard for behavior as a fan? How far can you go? Because this guy was saying horrible things.

HORNACEK: Yes, here is the thing, when you enter a sporting event as an athlete, as a coach, as an owner you know that you are going to get heckled, but I never it's okay as a fan to go for personal attacks. Because it's kind of like social media, right, when you're a troll, there is this invisible barrier between you and Jesse Watters. I can say whatever I want to Jesse Watters because he is not going to come after me.

I think fans have this --

WATTERS: Well, you'd be surprised. I know where you work. You're on my floor now here at Fox. I'll hunt you down.

HORNACEK: Right, I know. I'll make sure that I use a fake account.

WATTERS: But what about this though, I mean, what about the home court advantage? This is something the other players have to deal with. It's going to get ugly.

SHIMKUS: The "you and your wife," I think the wife --

HORNACEK: His reaction was not okay.

WATTERS: Okay, now let's talk about St. Patrick's Day. Everyone is going to be celebrating this weekend. Is it an excuse to get sloppy drunk? Yes or no?

SHIMKUS: Just a one word answer?

WATTERS: Go ahead.



SHIMKUS: Yes, I don't know.

WATTERS: You don't know. Are you even Irish?

SHIMKUS: No, I don't have any Irish in me. I know that some Irish people are offended by St. Patrick's Day because they feel like it promotes a negative stereotype of them drinking too much.

WATTERS: But they like to drink on St. Patrick's Day and you should see New York City around this time of the year. You can't even walk.

HORNACEK: I mean, how do you resist green beer? I don't know. But I do think that it's okay that you celebrate. It's a celebration. Everyone should be happy.

SHIMKUS: Yes, I think getting offended by St. Patrick's Day is --

WATTERS: Right, and non-Irish people are allowed to partake.

SHIMKUS: Remember when Max Kellerman like in ESPN said that the Notre Dame Fighting Irish guy was offensive?

WATTERS: The leprechaun?

SHIMKUS: The leperchaun.

WATTERS: Well, he's soft. Okay, I want to read the results of the last thing we did, should men spend a lot of money on gifts for their significant other on Valentine's Day? Yes, 15%; no, 85%.

SHIMKUS: But what is the demographic?

WATTERS: Four thousand votes. You guys were right.

SHIMKUS: Fifteen percent of women answered that poll, 85% --

WATTERS: That's right. Abby and Carley, thank you, guys very much.

SHIMKUS: Thank you.

HORNACEK: Thank you.

WATTERS: Up next, "Last Call."


WATTERS: Time now for "Last Call." Amazing newly restored footage released this week showing the first detonation of a nuclear bomb.

YouTube page Adam Central released a clip from the Trinity Test which took place on July 26th, 1945 in a remote part of the New Mexico desert. It was the world's first nuclear weapons test. It was developed by staffers of the Manhattan Project.

The explosion created by the plutonium bomb, so powerful it shattered glass more than 125 miles away. Wow.

That's all for us tonight. Be sure to follow me on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. And remember, I'm Watters and this is my world.

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