Parents speak out after son was killed by suspected illegal immigrant in Tennessee
22-year-old Pierce Corcoran was killed by a suspected illegal immigrant driver; his parents Wendy and DJ Corcoran speak out on 'Hannity.'
This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," January 7, 2019. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
SEAN HANNITY, HOST: Welcome to "Hannity."
Tomorrow night, 24 hours from right now, in this hour, President Trump will deliver a prime time addressed to all Americans speaking about the crisis at our Southern border.
And that brings us to our first "Hannity" Watch tonight. As we speak, a partial government shutdown is still in effect as Democrats bury their heads in the sand, close their eyes and pretend that America's borders are totally safe and secure. They are not. In fact, Democrats are adamantly refusing to give border patrol agents the tools they desperately need, and are asking for.
And that is a strategic wall on the southern border, but now, even one top Democrat tonight admitting that President Trump does in fact have the power to build a wall without any congressional approval whatsoever. Take a look.
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GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS, ABC NEWS ANCHOR: Does President Trump have the ability or the authority to declare a national emergency to have the military build has his wall?
REP. ADAM SMITH, D-WA.: Well, unfortunately, the short answer is yes. There's a provision in law that says the president can declare an emergency. It's been done a number of times. But, primarily, it's been done to build facilities in Afghanistan and Iraq. In this case, I think the president would be wide open to a court challenge saying, where is the emergency?
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HANNITY: All right. Where is the emergency? We will answer that question. Pay attention to the following statistics, that of course the hate Trump media, hate Trump Democrats, they are not telling you. They're ignoring.
Now, in the past two years alone, criminal aliens -- they have been responsible for approximately, look at this number -- 235,000 violation or less of the law, including 4,000 homicides, 30,000 sex crimes and get this, over 100,000 violent assaults. In just 2018, 17,000 individuals with criminal records, they were apprehended at the border and the crisis goes much, much deeper.
In towns and cities all across the country, we know about the opioid crisis, 300 Americans are killed every single week from heroin, 90 percent of that heroin is flooding across our southern border, and that death toll by the way is equal -- think about this -- to the number of American troops killed every week in Vietnam during the year 1968, that was the war's deadliest year.
And over a ten-year period, total Americans killed from illegal drugs coming across the southern border will be nearly three times higher than the total number of U.S. troops killed in Vietnam. There is your crisis, by any definition.
But don't expect to see this on any other network. Of course, Donald Trump wants something and they are just against it. Instead of reporting facts and truths, they seem content with just trashing Trump voters, blaming us for seeing the truth. Over on fake news CNN, Rick Wilson first trashed Trump supporters, suggesting that we didn't have teeth, and now, he's saying we are not sophisticated enough, we're not smart enough to understand the issue involving border security. Take a look.
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RICK WILSON: The idea of a physical wall, Donald Trump love selling this to his base and again, these are people who are not sophisticated, they are not bright. They knew not understand the complexity --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Here we go with condescending to us --
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's why we want our wall.
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WILSON: Donald Trump's target audience, he's a con man who works on sophisticated people very successfully.
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HANNITY: And while fake news CNN insults our intelligence, conspiracy TV MSNBC, they are referring to Americans, we the people, as cowards. Take a look.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The concern of a lot of Republicans is they can see the Trump is driving them off the cliff but they look at the short-term and they fear not the general election in 2020, but they fear the potential that Trump backed candidate could primary them and beat them even before they got to November. Is that fear, panic, cowardice or stupidity? It's all of those things but it is the thing that I think has been the governing dynamic in Republican politics for the last year.
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HANNITY: Remember last week, I was talking about, well, we had the hate Trump, you have the hate Trump media, and I told you about the information crisis. I went in to great detail?
Personal attacks will never stop this show from reporting truths. And for us and most Americans, this is not a political game. We are seeing this is about life and death. This is about innocent, brave, law-abiding Americans and legal immigrants literally dying because our borders are not secure.
Now, we know the story of Officer Singh. He was gunned down by an illegal immigration just after Christmas. He was just put to rest this weekend. His 5-month-old son -- he will never know his father. That's life and death.
And the person responsible for that heinous attack had a criminal track record. He should have been turned over to ICE. He should have been deported. But in California, well, they have sanctuary cities, but the whole state is a sanctuary state, and those policies prevented that from happening. Government policies are now literally aiding and abetting lawbreaking and paving the way for future crimes.
Why do you think the government would act and aid and abet criminals?
And like every other Democrat, you have the outgoing governor of California, Jerry Brown, burying his head in the sand but really, he ought to be taking responsibility. Take a look.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The county sheriff has come out, you know, pretty critical of the sanctuary state policies that you signed into law in 2017. What do you make of that criticism? And do you think perhaps a side effect of those laws is that more bad actors might fall through the cracks?
GOV. JERRY BROWN, D-CALIF.: No, I don't think so.
He was arrested and brought into jail even before the sanctuary law was enacted. So, ICE, the immigration people could have gone out and gotten him. The police or the sheriff could have told the immigration service. I think people now are looking to blame somebody, because of the terrible things that have happened, but it had nothing to do with the law in California.
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HANNITY: No, sanctuary states literally prevent criminals that would normally have been handed over to ICE, it makes it illegal. That means they go free.
What happened to Office Singh is all too common an occurrence.
Now, have you heard the name of Pierce Corcoran? On December 29, he was killed by a suspected illegal immigrant driving without a license, without insurance and on the wrong side of the highway. Pierce was only 22 years old. Tonight on this show, his parents will join us right after the opening monologue.
Also tonight, the American people and the public need to start asking some really important tough questions. How many of our fellow citizens have been murdered because of unsecured borders? Now, if that's not a national emergency, I don't know how he would ever define one.
And by the way, this emergency is taking place on both sides of the border. Here are the facts: 60,000 inadmissible or illegal immigrants are turned away from our borders every single month. A record number of migrants are overwhelming American detention facilities causing them to be dangerously overcrowded and one out of every three migrant women, those who try to make the trip to our southern border sadly, tragically, evil occurs and they are assaulted sexually.
And last month alone, 20,000 children were smuggled or traffic right here into the United States and thousands more have died on that arduous, difficult, hard journey across the border. President Trump was long warned about this incredibly serious situation but, what was Nancy Pelosi's reaction to devastating facts?
According to the Fox News during a briefing with our Homeland Secretary Nielsen, Pelosi said, I reject your facts, to which Nielsen responded, quote, these aren't my facts, these are the facts, during recent border negotiations.
All right. So, this weekend, the vice president Pence, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, well, they didn't bother to show up for the vice president. Instead, Nancy and Chuck, they were too busy. They sent their aides to negotiate with the vice president of the United States. That's how seriously they are taking what is now a deadly issue.
And then, of course, arrogantly offering, oh, we'll give you a dollar for the border wall. Well, if that's their attitude, Nancy Pelosi's, is she going to offer the families who lost loved ones any financial compensation? Is that how we now define compassion and that liberalism? What does she have to say to all the angel moms and angel dads and kids? What will she say when Officer Singh's son is 16 years old or looking going into college?
We showed you the numbers. Drugs are pouring across our borders, leading to even more death and more destruction. This is not about the 98 percent of people that want a better life, because they come from countries of poverty and want opportunity and freedom that we all take for granted. We are not worried about them. We are just asking that they come legally. It's about the 2 percent, those that are committing crimes, human trafficking and drug trafficking, violent offenders.
But even the thousands of good honest immigrants coming across our border because they do want a better life are -- they trafficked themselves. Human trafficking, assaults happened, even killed during that dangerous trek all through Mexico. Without a doubt, this is a national emergency, it's time to build the wall.
The president is right to fight to protect American lives. But how do you negotiate with people? They won't even sit down. They send their aides to negotiate with the vice president. People who won't even recognize that the problem that exists, people who reject truth and simple facts and care more about political optics than the lives and the well-being of Americans.
And while Democrats try their best to ignore very real, serious crises, continue to obsess about one of their favorite fantasies. All they want to talk about, Donald Trump, impeachment, Donald Trump, impeachment, which is we explained last week is not going to happen.
Now, in the Senate, they won't get two-thirds of Republican senators. All they will do is distract and divide the American people and they won't be serving their constituents.
As to one day after being sworn in, freshman Democratic Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib went on a vulgar grant vowing to impeach the MF-er, the president. Over the weekend, she doubled down on her idiotic remarks, once again calling for his impeachment, said that Trump has, quote, "met his match."
The radical far left, and the new Congress is off to a great start. Their new rising star, New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is continuing to try and sell America on this far left, radical vision for America, portraying socialism as some sort of path to paradise, arguing that we should let facts get in the way. Really? Take a look.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When people hear the word socialism, they think Soviet Union, Cuba, Venezuela. Is that what you had in mind?
REP. ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ, D-N.Y.: Of course not. What we had in mind, and what my policies most closely resemble is what we see in the U.K., in Norway and Finland and Sweden.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "The Washington Post" recently awarded you for Pinocchios for misstating some statistics about Pentagon spending.
OCASIO-CORTEZ: If people want to really blow up one figure here or word they are, I would argue they are missing the forest for the trees. There are lots of people more concerned about being precisely and semantically correct than about being morally right.
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HANNITY: It's only a $21 trillion mistake, why you pay attention to facts and figures.
So ask yourself, why is she so afraid to explain how to pay for it? Because the only way to pay for it is with your money, and she wants to raise taxes. She's already thrown her support behind -- get this -- a 70 percent tax rate for American citizens.
But remember, the bottom 50 percent of wage earners pay less than 3 percent of income taxes already. And by the way, keep in mind, she will definitely need a lot more of your money if she wants to accomplish the radical agenda so don't be fooled.
Pay for massive entitlements like government run health care, government mandated climate shaming, government funded college for all, it will require massive, heavy taxes on all Americans, not just them millionaires and billionaires that are so often demonized. Interestingly, even "The View's" Whoopi Goldberg had some pretty choice words for the freshman congresswoman's big plans. Let's take a look.
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WHOOPI GOLDBERG, CO-HOST: I would encourage you to sit still for a minute and learn the job, because there are people in that party who have been working with their tails off for this country.
JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST: And they know a lot. They've been around.
GOLDBERG: And you could learn some stuff.
Before you start pooping on people and what they've done, you've got to do something, too.
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HANNITY: And, by the way, Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez, you are welcome on this show. If you want to have a real debate, we'll give you the full hour. I'm going to give you three bonus hours of my radio show, on 600 of the biggest stations in the country.
But we won't hold our breath, shall we? Right, of course, she first needs to denounce her many radical followers to what disgusting attacks on the House Minority Whip Steve Scalise. Over the weekend, Congressman Scalise - - he was hit with a wave of extremely disturbing comments from supporters of Ocasio-Cortez during a Twitter exchange on tax reform. Now some are sending violent messages about, remember, the attempted assassination of a GOP congressman by a far left radical James Hodgkinson in 2017, Scalise was shot, nearly died, seriously injured. Comments including, quote, kick his cane, snipe his ass. Wow.
And now following that incident, Congressman Scalise tweeted, quote, well, happy to continue this debate on the floor of the people's house, but it's clearly not productive to engage here with some of your radical followers. #Stayclassy.
Congressman Scalise will join us later in the show.
Now, of course, this is all part of the Democratic Party's hard turn to the left. A lot of this now is based on hatred. A lot of it is now obsession, fixation, every second, every minute, every hour of every day. Hate Trump.
One of the champions of the far left, Elizabeth Warren, she is now seeing her 2020 presidential hopes with her right before her eyes. During a visit to Iowa over the weekend, the progressive hopeful from Massachusetts was again pressed on her now infamous DNA debacle and she has now come up with a brand-new excuse for her Native American lies, telling the audience, quote, "tribal citizenship is very different from ancestry."
Senator, just stop while you are ahead and admit it, you were caught deceiving voters, your employers and your friends and everybody else. Now, even your own congressional colleagues, they seem to be taking notice.
New report from "Politico", Democratic senators, they are keeping their distance and withholding any endorsements, especially as a former vice president, crazy Uncle Joe Biden, is reportedly on the verge of making his final decision on 2020. We'll have a lot more later in the show on all this.
But, first, we turn our attention back to the heart wrenching out of Tennessee. Twenty-two-year-old Pierce Corcoran senselessly killed by a suspected illegal.
And joining us now are Pierce's parents, DJ and Wendy Corcoran.
I don't know -- I've met many angel moms, dads and families in the course of the show. This is all fresh to you.
Wendy, we'll start with you. I don't know how any parent deals with this.
WENDY CORCORAN, MOTHER OF PIERCE KENNEDY CORCORAN: It's been the hardest thing of our lives. I can't even explain it.
HANNITY: You wrote some very powerful words about responsibility. I want you to explain from a parent's point of view because the president is saying this is a national emergency, do you agree with him?
W. CORCORAN: Yes. I mean, I think we are taking it seriously. I mean, we taught our children to be responsible, and we don't feel like anyone else is being expecting the same thing. He was 22 years old, and the man who was negligent in this case, he didn't abide by the same responsibility that our son did. And he is still not expected to.
HANNITY: You know, you wrote at the end, and I want to read this to our audience: We are all aware as a family that nothing can bring Pierce back but don't tell me that my son who lived in this country and followed its rules doesn't deserve better? For God's sakes, out of the respect of men and women who fight and fought to make this country such a desirable place to live, do the right thing. Come here legally and become a responsible citizen.
DJ, your wife wrote that. And I thought it was very powerful.
DJ CORCORAN, FATHER OF PIERCE KENNEDY CORCORAN: We stand by her words. We are not a hating people, we love and we rally behind people, the underdogs that come here to America and succeed legally, and that's what we want. I don't understand why that's so hard. And this shouldn't be political left- wing or right wing, it should just be America.
And we should -- we should really try to help those people come here legally and be responsible citizens.
HANNITY: You know --
DJ CORCORAN: We all came here at one time. The only people that are native, are the Native Americans and they all came here for a better life and I get that. But he's been here for 14 years and he made no attempt at all to become a legal, law-abiding citizen. He's lived in the shadows for all this time.
HANNITY: When you also hear of so many of -- so many instances, and I have become friends -- people have gone through your very situation, and over time, I have become friends with. Steve Ronnebeck is one of them. He lost his son Grant, the same age as your son, 22 years old and working overnight in a convenience store and a shot over a pack of cigarettes and killed, murdered.
And one of the things -- the illegal immigrant in that case had been in the criminal justice system. When you hear that not only are they here illegally which is one thing, but then they were in the justice system. Then in the case of Officer Singh, they have sanctuary policies that protect them when they are in jail from being handed over to ICE to be deported, then they commit other crimes. If it was me, I would in part blame the government for their failure.
I want to get your thoughts on that.
WENDY CORCORAN: Absolutely, absolutely. They are to blame. You cannot come here and not -- I mean, we are re-victimized by the system is what we feel like and we have just learned -- we've seen other people deal with this and feel for them, our hearts break for them. It's much more tragic in some ways.
And it's just -- it's unjust. Our son's life meant something. And our government makes it feel as if it didn't. That somebody who had no right to be here matters more.
DJ CORCORAN: In manufacturing, if you manufacture a product and it is killing people, and it is hurting them, they will issue a recall.
We have a system that has a flaw. We have a flaw in the system and, there needs to be a recall. There needs to be a do over, to say, look, we didn't foresee all of this and we need to stop the conveyor belt, stop the manufacturing. Look and see what that factor is and take control.
The government owes us, all of us, any person that is here paying their taxes and doing what they are supposed to be doing and abiding by the law, the government owes them not, I think.
HANNITY: Let me -- you are both living a nightmare. And I pray for both of you. I think the hardest thing in life to ever deal with is, I'm a parent, losing a child, is the hardest thing that people go through. That you're living this nightmare.
We are in the middle of a national debate. And we are trying to decide if the president is right in declaring a national emergency and securing the border and building a wall so that our agents, our border agents can do their job.
Because it so deeply impacts both of you. I think you have more of a right than anybody else, having been impacted by this to give us your thoughts. How would you like this solved?
DJ CORCORAN: I mean, I don't think that a -- my father told me one time, he said, a lock, a door, a wall, will keep an honest person out. If a criminal or somebody that wants to do something, harm or do something illegal, they will find a way in. The wall will stop some people from just coming over, but I think there needs to be something in place it's going to --
WENDY CORCORAN: Be a deterrent.
DJ CORCORAN: We had some friends over that were talking to us and said maybe we were looking at it wrong. Instead of punishing the people who are coming here trying to get a better life, to maybe start punishing the people that are employing them and enabling them and exploiting them and using them to their financial advantage to maybe start fining those people and then maybe --
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HANNITY: I don't disagree at all. Come in legally, a wall with a door.
DJ CORCORAN: Yes.
WENDY CORCORAN: Yes, exactly.
HANNITY: We pray for you and your family. We are so sorry. Such a beautiful young man, 22 years old, this shouldn't happen. This shouldn't in this country.
You're in our prayers.
WENDY CORCORAN: I shouldn't, for sure.
HANNITY: All right. When we come back, Geraldo Rivera and Dan Bongino, next.
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HANNITY: All right. President Trump, he will address the nation tomorrow, 9:00 Eastern, to talk about the crisis on the southern border and the current government shutdown.
Today, the Health and Human Services secretary -- I'm sorry, the Homeland Security Secretary Nielsen laid out the facts writing, quote: The threat is real. The number of terror watch lists that encountered at our southern border has increased over the last two years. The exact number is sensitive and details about these cases are extremely sensitive, and adding that, I'm sure that all Americans would agree that one terrorist reaching our borders is one too many. These are just the terror suspects that we know about who reach our borders, and thousands of terror watch list individuals transit our hemisphere each year, including last year, where DHS encountered more than 3,000 special interest aliens, individuals with suspicious travel patterns who may pose a national security threat.
Here to discuss, we have Fox News correspondent-at-large, Geraldo Rivera, and Secret Service agent Dan Bongino.
You know what, Geraldo, you and I -- we've come to areas of agreement on this. Border wall, you agreed with me. Finally, I got you to agree. We didn't agree in the beginning.
But Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer can't show up for a meeting for the vice president, they think it's funny to offer a dollar for the wall? What are they going to say to these parents of Pierce Corcoran that I just interviewed? And their son is dead.
Or the people that also aid and abet these people with their sanctuary cities and their sanctuary states, criminal aliens in our custody that are not handed over to ICE. This is -- you always say it's about both parties, it's not. It's about one party now that refuses to protect the American people, and I didn't mention drugs and I didn't mention human trafficking.
GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT-AT-LARGE: I love you brother, but you are looking at that family, the Corcoran family and what they've suffered. There are no words that I can offer that will give them any solace or any relief. I am so sorry.
HANNITY: Solve the problem.
RIVERA: Let me -- let me put a few sentences together here. I would feel equally upset and pained by their tragedy, where the killer Irish or Italian or Puerto Rican or Jewish, or old or young, or -- I think that to use these tragedies to try to make a political point is not useful at this point.
HANNITY: Geraldo, stop it. We have a dead 22-year-old kid, stop.
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Wait a minute. We have a dead police officer who has a five-month-old kid. It's not using, it's about when is a government going to protect them?
RIVERA: It is grotesquely unfair to use these anecdotes to--
HANNITY: It is grotesque, it's happening.
RIVERA: --to make it a political argument.
HANNITY: Geraldo protect the border.
RIVERA: You start - you started by saying we have agreement about the wall, the barrier, the fence, whatever you call it.
HANNITY: Fine.
RIVERA: I think that this is that now a political discussion. This is what the President has earned by his election--
HANNITY: --Nancy to show up.
RIVERA: --and his perseverance. He has earned the wall, the barrier, the fence, whatever you call it.
HANNITY: All right. Dan Bongino, how many people have to die?
RIVERA: Conversely the democrats have - let me finish one sentence.
HANNITY: How many people have to die.
RIVERA: --the democrats have earned amnesty for the Dreamers who are a longtime residents of United States.
HANNITY: Fine. Talk about Dreamers, talk about DACA. But show up - Vice President.
RIVERA: The vast majority--
HANNITY: Geraldo you are missing the point--
RIVERA: --of the undocumented here--
HANNITY: I said 98 percent are good people.
RIVERA: No, you are not letting me make a point.
HANNITY: All right. Let me go to Dan Bongino to be fair --
RIVERA: This is a political argument now, not an emotional argument.
HANNITY: No, it's about saving lives, that's not political. That's life and death. That's what the emergency is about. Dan Bongino?
BONGINO: This is fascinating, though. Geraldo, you are making a political point too. I mean, you are sitting here talking about all of the positive components of immigration and when Sean brings up one of the unbelievably true - not even negative, but tragic, horrific components of illegal immigration, the death of American citizens through crime by people who had no right to be here at all, all of a sudden it's a political point?
RIVERA: You know as well as I know that these people--
BONGINO: - Geraldo that is so gross and unfair.
RIVERA: --citizen commit. You know that they make neighborhood safer not more dangerous according to the statistics.
BONGINO: Geraldo, these guys - they should not be here.
RIVERA: Let's compromise. Let's compromise.
BONGINO: How you can use this statistic.
RIVERA: Stop wrenching--
BONGINO: 100 percent of the people shouldn't be here.
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HANNITY: Tell Nancy and shut--
RIVERA: --undocumented who brought their kids to school. Why don't you tell the story of the hardworking people? They are farm people, they're kitchen people--
BONGINO: Geraldo, argue my (point). A 100 percent of illegal immigrants shouldn't be here.
RIVERA: --the meat packers, the poultry processors. You tell the slanted story to make it emotional impact.
BONGINO: Geraldo, a 100 percent shouldn't be here. A 100 percent shouldn't be here. If one of them goes on to kill someone. The parents aren't interested in your college level statistics course. They are interested in the fact that the person shouldn't be here.
RIVERA: This isn't about - don't--
BONGINO: --will you not get it.
HANNITY: All right, slow down, slow down, slow down. Geraldo, I want to ask you this. I've become friends with - not only did I interview these - I can't imagine what these families going through. I can't imagine life without his father for this entire life, officer Singh's father.
But I also know Mr. Ronnebeck and I know Ms. Mendoza and I know Mrs. Wilkerson, and I've done Town Halls with Angel Moms and Dads. This keeps happening and I'm not even mentioning the 90% of heroin coming into our country--
RIVERA: But, Sean, don't you feel the same empathy for all families of violent crime? Don't you feel the same pain, the same--
HANNITY: Geraldo, listen, 98 percent want a better life.
RIVERA: --suffering for any of the victims of the 50,000 murders in this country. I feel equally upset.
HANNITY: Geraldo, if we can stop it - I want to stop it.
RIVERA: --peaceful, prosperous world.
HANNITY: Why don't we stop it? Tell your friend Nancy and Chucky to get their ass out of bed and show up.
RIVERA: I have - Dan is my brother, you are my brother. I wanted to stop. I want to compromise. I want the government to open. I want - the President gets his barrier, his fence, this wall. But Dreamers get their freedom. We stop talking about illegal immigrants as if they are all monsters--
HANNITY: How do we get it if they don't show up? How do you get it if they want to offer a dollar?
RIVERA: Well, you get it by rather than talking about these heart wrenching cases. You get it back being the--
HANNITY: Oh, don't talk about the truth? Don't discuss the reality, the hell they are living through?
RIVERA: This is - no, that is - is that the reality, what about all the ones that went to work today - all the undocumented that went to work today?
HANNITY: Geraldo, I'm conceding 98 percent are good people, but they are not doing legally.
RIVERA: 98 percent--
HANNITY: Dan.
BONGINO: Geraldo, what about people who are documented, like my wife and my mother-in-law who followed the rule? Why are you so concerned about people who broke the law, other than people - the millions who come here legally and the American citizens who finances--
RIVERA: The vast majority--
BONGINO: --aren't they entitled to anything? What is it?
RIVERA: As you know, as you--
BONGINO: No, no, Geraldo, I didn't interrupt you.
RIVERA: As you know the vast majority--
BONGINO: No, you went on and I did not interrupt you and you jump right in. Let me ask you this one question. Is there some global right to citizenship in the United States, is there any limiting factor you're willing to support here?
RIVERA: In the United States there is a right to humane compassionate treatment--
HANNITY: Dan you - Geraldo gets the last one.
RIVERA: And if you ask for an amnesty or refugee status, asylum you get a hearing, that's the constitution. We can't circumvent the constitution. We can't break our own laws.
BONGINO: Amnesty is not in the constitution. No, that's not.
HANNITY: Geraldo, we have our governments--
RIVERA: Asylum policies--
HANNITY: - we don't even kick out the ones we know are criminals, how stupid are we? What a - how dumb is that and how sad families lose their kids.
RIVERA: We must compromise. We must make peace.
HANNITY: Show up.
BONGINO: We need to secure our border, that's it.
HANNITY: Sit down at the table and show up and think about the families, and think about the future.
RIVERA: I agree. The three of us should--
HANNITY: We should do it, you're right. When we come back more vulgarity from the left. Absolutely vile words coming from fans of Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, we'll tell you about that next.
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HANNITY: As we continue our "Hannity Government Watch" tonight, Democrats refused to budge on securing the nation's border. The radical left appears to be growing more unhinged by the minute.
Over the weekend, Republican Congressman Steve Scalise, he faced violent, hateful, radical words from supporters of Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio- Cortez who made references to the assassination attempt on the GOP Congressmen by James Hodgkinson in 2017. Hateful words including "Kick his cane and snipe his ass". And we reached out to Ocasio-Cortez's office for comment, they haven't responded.
He's here with reaction and House Minority Whip, Louisiana Congressman, Steve Scalise. I'm not going to hold the Congresswoman responsible for what some of our crazy supporters say. And I like - as I did not hold Bernie Sanders is responsible as one of his supporters was involved in the shooting that nearly took your life.
But do you think there's an obligation when this is happening for people to step up and say to the people that support them, knock it off?
REP. STEVE SCALISE, R-LA.: Clearly, Sean, she ought to own up and just say, look, this isn't something that I condone and she doesn't, like you said, own this herself directly, but she shouldn't condone it either and you shouldn't look the other way. We shouldn't tolerate either side, our friends or our enemies in a political debate to encourage or incite a violence against another person.
And so, look, I was having a good debate about whether or not they should confiscate 70% of people's taxes at a marginal tax rate that I think is ridiculous and it's beyond. She talks about Sweden and these other socialist countries. Sweden, I think, has the highest European rate and theirs is about 61%.
She doesn't think that's enough. She wants to go to 70%, and probably wouldn't stop there. And I thought it was an important debate to go back and forth on and then you saw some of that stuff. And I said, look, I'm not going to - I'm not going to engage in that kind of violence.
HANNITY: Let me ask about the rhetoric, because you have this new Congresswoman saying, "We're going to impeach the MF'er". And Nancy Pelosi - well, she didn't seem to care very much about it. Then you have Congressman Hank Johnson comparing the President to Hitler and then you have other people on Hate Trump TV, "he needs his diaper changed".
Look, I'm not offended by words like so many others feign to be. But when it talks about violence, it gets to a line that, I think, we have a responsibility to call out.
SCALISE: It is. And, look, to me they're lines. There's a First Amendment and I fully respect that. But the First Amendment doesn't allow you to say fire in a movie theater. There are limits. And when you incite violence against someone else, that's not the way we act in this country.
And so, if you want to debate the merits then go ahead, that's what's great about this country. Frankly, if you're losing the debate, that's when you usually have to resort to name-calling and that's why so many on the left want to call names to Donald Trump, as opposed to try to argue whether or not we should have a secure border.
They don't want secure borders, but they don't want --
HANNITY: Here's what they see, though.
SCALISE: --look like they are for open borders.
HANNITY: Don't you think that this is a winning issue for the Republican and the President in light of drug trafficking, human trafficking, gangs, potential terrorists that Secretary Nielsen is warning. And then we have the sanctuary cities where we literally are protecting alien criminals that commit crimes in this country and we don't hand them over to ICE to deport them. Isn't that aiding and abetting future crime? Aren't you partly responsible for what they do?
SCALISE: Right. We've seen the violent crime that comes across the border every day. People that want to come here legally, there are a lot of legal ways to come here, and we still are the most generous nation in the world in letting people come to this country legally.
But you also see there's a dark side of people who want to bring drugs into our country. Last year ICE agents saved 900 children from human trafficking and sexual assault. It's really going on. We need to secure the border.
And by the way you saw Chuck Schumer for this in 2006 when Donald Trump wasn't President. Now he's President--
HANNITY: Yes.
SCALISE: --and Schumer doesn't want to build the same wall that he voted for. It's..
HANNITY: By the way, if that doesn't show he supported it, Hillary supported the wall, Obama supported the wall, so they are the ones politicizing the whole wall issue.
SCALISE: Obama voted for $25 billion wall. The President is asking for 5 billion.
HANNITY: Right. Well, they couldn't even show up and show the Vice President or the President the respect to even negotiate the issue, which I think, speaks volumes about them. And I think the President--
SCALISE: They ought to put an alternative on the table. If they don't want to secure the border--
HANNITY: Saving lives--
SCALISE: --a dollar is not a serious response. Put a real offer on the table and go and defend it with the American people. Don't say you're for border security and then oppose the very money it's going to take to secure our border.
HANNITY: Saving the country from the importation of drugs, human trafficking and violent criminals and protecting them, that's worth fighting over. And the President, thankfully, is holding strong.
All right. When we come back, "Hannity Watch" left-wing Hollywood, their liberal bias full display at the Golden Globes, but the conservatives, they're hitting back hard, we'll tell you how, next.
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HANNITY: All right. Time for update, "Hannity Watch" on Hollywood hatred. Last night Hollywood elites, they came together, showering themselves with praise. They do this like every other week at this time of year. It was the 76th Golden Globe Awards, tinsel town's finest managed.
They finally managed to avoid directly attacking the President at the ceremony. But actor Christian Bale, oh, he thanks Satan in his acceptance speech for inspiring his role as Dick Cheney and the movie "Vice" that nobody really went to. Take a look.
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CHRISTIAN BALE, ACTOR: - for all the competition. I will be cornering the market on charisma-free - what do you think, Mitch McConnell next? That could be good couldn't it? Thank you to "Satan", for giving me inspiration on how to play this role.
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HANNITY: Yes, you just referred to Satan. Hollywood wonders why their big salaries are going down and box office receipts are low. Former Vice President's daughter, Liz Cheney fired back this morning on twitter posting. "Satan probably inspired him to do this, too. Christian Bale arrested for assault on a mother and a sister".
And now with reaction, we have Conservative Commentator, Allie Stuckey, and The Hill's Joe Concha. Allie, let me just go down the greatest hits. Let's show our audience what I mean when I talk about Hollywood hate. Let's roll the tape.
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MADONNA, SINGER-SONGWRITER: Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
JOHNNY DEPP, ACTOR: When was the last time an actor assassinated a President?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's been a while.
DEPP: Maybe it's time.
ROBERT DE NIRO, ACTOR: How dare he say the things he does? Of course, I want to punch him in the face.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right.
ALEC BALDWIN, ACTOR: We change governments here at home in an orderly and formal way. In that orderly and formal way and lawful way we need to overthrow the government of the United States under Donald Trump.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Allie, I could go on for an hour playing this tape. There's a lot of hatred out there, why?
ALLIE BETH STUCKEY, "RELATABLE" PODCAST HOST: Right. Well, I think that Christian Bale's statement really - what it typifies what Hollywood feels about conservatives and about religion, especially Christianity. They think it's laughable. They mock it, and they also hate it.
And I think it also shows that their hatred, their vulgarity really has nothing to do with Donald Trump. What they've been telling us for the past two years, the Hollywood left, is that the reason they've stooped so low, the reason they're so vulgar, the reason they're so hateful, is because of Donald Trump. He has lowered the level of discourse.
But this movie "Vice", which was completely historically inaccurate in mocking George Bush and Dick Cheney, shows that the hatred of conservatives has lasted a long time. And I know we say this a lot, but that is quite literally why Trump won.
HANNITY: Joe, you're a special media correspondent, you study these guys for a living, you study Hollywood for living. It really is hatred, but in the course of hating this much, I don't see that they're advocating anything that benefits people in this country. And only in the end, I think, they hurt themselves.
JOE CONCHA, MEDIA REPORTER, THE HILL: Yes. Look, Christian Bale's a tremendous actor - "The Prestige", go watch it sometime, one of my favorite movies. He could go up there and talk about his craft or talk about a charity that maybe he supports. I don't know why we always have to go in this direction.
But here's the thing, you talked about hate. It's also repetitive as well, Sean's. At a point where people are tuning out, this Golden Globes telecast on NBC, ratings were down from the previous year.
Now what makes that remarkable is the fact that they had the Eagles, Bears NFL playoff game as a lead-in, which will get me nightmares until Easter, given the way that game ended. I'm a Bears fan.
But you know that 45 million people were watching the end of the Eagles/Bears game, how many stuck around for the Golden Globes? 18 million. In other words, 27 million people after the game said - saw the Golden Globes come on and said, "I'm not watching, because there's a predisposition that they're probably going to be insulted".
And look, this has been happening for a while now. I'll give you one more number that really puts this all in the context. 1998, The Oscars, how many people tuned in for that? 57 million. And how many tuned in last year 26.5 million. 30 million people gone, because--
HANNITY: That's amazing.
CONCHA: --they don't want to watch these award shows anymore where they know they're going to be insulted or we're going to be hearing about anything but movies.
HANNITY: Allie, it seems like American people are choosing. And in the end, they're not choosing these people with their arrogant political agenda?
STUCKEY: Right. Well, it's just not relatable anymore. It's not just that we disagree on lifestyle, it's not just that we disagree on policies, it's truly a collision of worldviews. We have nothing in common with these people, and we're tired of being condescended.
HANNITY: Yes. All right. Thank you both. Joe Concha is our new Media Special Correspondent. Allie, thank you as well. When we come back, Rush Limbaugh gives his take on the government while partial government shutdown. We'll get to that as "Hannity Border Watch" continues. Stay with us.
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HANNITY: All right. Rush is back from the holiday break. Today, he gave a harsh reality check for Democrats currently that are resisting the President on the border wall. Here is Rush.
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RUSH LIMBAUGH, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: --remains a one-man show, Donald Trump against the Democrat Party and the media, Donald Trump against fake news, Donald Trump against lying news and we are very fortunate the guy does not cave. We're very fortunate he's willing to put up with this.
93 percent of the American people say illegal immigration is a problem, 88 percent of Democrats. And the first act by the Democrats now who run the House of Representatives was to pass legislation or a tout legislation mocking this, lamenting, making fun of this.
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HANNITY: And the President is winning on the issue, safety, security, stopping drug, human trafficking. All right, that's all the time we have left this evening. Quick programming note, though. Tomorrow night 9:00 PM Eastern as we start the show, the President will be addressing the nation on this very important issue.
And after the President's address we will be joined by House Minority Leader Congressman Kevin McCarthy, Senator Lindsey Graham and many others. That's tomorrow 9:00 Eastern.
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