Nancy Pelosi faces growing impeachment pressure
House Democrats split on impeachment push; reaction and analysis on 'The Five.'
This is a rush transcript from "The Five," May 21, 2019. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
GREG GUTFELD, HOST: Hi, I'm Greg Gutfeld with Emily Compagno, Juan Williams, Jesse Watters, and she needs a license to drive a Tonka truck, Dana Perino. “The Five.”
A new Gallup poll says four in ten Americans embrace some form of socialism. We should gasp at this, but I'm not surprised. It's not higher. Fact is, people who really know what socialism is, those who fled socialist countries, who fought the war to prevent socialism spread, who buried family members, they're getting old. Many are dying. The knowledge of such horror goes to the grave. And they're being replaced by the lowest form of life allowed on campus without a leash, socialist professors.
These tenure misinformation gate keepers keep socialism from being understood the way its sober survivors remember. And really, why would a socialist admit that their grime losing team killed millions of people. That's like a mosquito teaching you the consequences of malaria. Instead, these ghouls shifted emphasis on the so-called oppression of western civilization hoping their assembly line of trivial outrage drowns out the horrors of the past, and it's working.
We have socialists running for office. Some even winning. Touting a system that makes grandmothers from the old country weep. It's used to be said that the greatest tricks the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. No, the greatest trick is convincing the world socialism didn't happen. For it's no longer a vanquish murderist ideology, but a cute fuzzy thing that gets you free stuff. All ends, no means. Thanks to academia and media we witnessed one hell of a makeover. Charles Manson is now Santa Claus.
All right, so there's something disturbing going on, Jesse. There's a new Quinnipiac poll that Dana shared with us earlier. It's an interesting poll.
JESSE WATTERS, HOST: She loves the polls.
GUTFELD: She does. Biden went from 38 to 35, so his lead is shrinking. Sanders jumped from 11 percent to 16 percent, he's in second place. So we have Santa Claus, socialism, closing in and could be President of the United States.
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WATTERS: Yeah, I don't know if Bernie's rise is real. We'll have to see about that. But I think the poll about socialism is baloney. I don't think that many people really like socialism. That's why this survey about socialism are all over the map because no one really knows what it is.
But I would agree that the appeal of socialism is increasing for two reasons. One, social media is like a radical den of socialism inbreeding. It's just politicians and journalists chasing likes from politically correct complaint makers.
GUTFELD: Nice.
WATTERS: And it just riles everybody up until you have an alternative reality that's completely detached from the rest of the country. And socialism is a response to Donald Trump. You have Donald Trump who comes out as this brash capitalist, this winner, this nationalist, and they say we want to pivot to the exact opposite of that, and that's socialism.
So he has this winning campaign, make America great again, which wants to re-establish America as the number 1 in the world and not apologize for it. So the Democrats are still searching for a slogan. And what they want to do, whereas Donald Trump is still continuing as the change candidate, Democrats are just trying to go backwards and re-establish the old order, and they don't realize that Donald Trump is cannibalized 20 percent of their electoral map, 20 percent of their policies, and they're still trying to fight in the socialism wilderness out here on the left instead of fighter for the center.
GUTFELD: Emily, do you like charts or graphs?
EMILY COMPAGNO, HOST: Yeah.
GUTFELD: Oh, great. I know you would. Let's go to this graph. Surprise, the younger you are, the more likely you will embrace socialism, 18 to 34, 58 percent. Say it's a good thing. Once you get over 35 it drops to 40. And 55-plus it's still -- I still think it's high at 36 percent.
But we don't know how -- once you get to the next level, anybody who's been on this planet long enough to experience what happens tends to not like it. So maybe this is just being skewed by young people who have had it too good.
COMPAGNO: There's certainly that possibility, especially with that naivety that's built into it, and also that kind of rampant academic progressive push and socialism tendencies being pushed on campuses that you've just reference. Jesse, actually, I have to disagree with you.
WATTERS: Let's hear it.
COMPAGNO: All right.
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COMPAGNO: It's not hypothetical at all, right? I'm from the Bay Area. I live in Seattle now. Socialists have literally declared war on the Democratic establishment. And forget about the Republicans. Like, they're not even in the picture. The socialists have taken over those west coast cities and we see it so rampantly in my opinion with the homeless population and all of the things that stem from that. The public policy programs, the dependency programs that are in place.
Seattle spends a billion dollars a year on the 12,000 homeless. That's a $100,000 per person. To what end? To a growing population. There are so many stats and quotes that I can bust out, but the bottomline is that there's kind of this policy fight happening on the left and it forces and change people to feel like they have to have this compassion driven approach.
That all it does is undercut this reasonable kind of firm hard line thing. And it is a magnet policy for homeless or for other things. So the reality is, the west coast cities are living socialism in so many regards, and it's why these cities are being bankrupted and taken over and are failing to progress in any way.
GUTFELD: Juan, as a card caring socialist, how do you respond to that reasoned analysis?
JUAN WILLIAMS, HOST: I'm also Batman.
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WATTERS: You're Robert Pattinson then, too.
GUTFELD: Oh.
WATTERS: He's going to be the new Batman.
WILLIAMS: Is that right?
COMPAGNO: He is?
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GUTFELD: Look how excited she is.
WILLIAMS: You like that.
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WILLIAMS: As Batman, let me speak to the Joker.
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WILLIAMS: Because you said, oh, Trump is such a successful business -- you must have missed the idea that he was bankrupt several times. He relied on his daddy's money, but it's OK.
WATTERS: Juan, how golf clubs do you own?
WILLIAMS: Oh, I don't play golf. So I don't own golf clubs. Let me just tell you something.
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WILLIAMS: The problem here is -- and I think you are right on this point, Trump and the Republicans --
WATTERS: Yeah.
WILLIAMS: -- are responsible for the popularity of socialism. You know why?
WATTERS: Why is that?
WILLIAMS: Because they keep saying every good idea and policy that the Democrats come up with, oh, socialism. Just --
DANA PERINO, HOST: Wait, name one.
WILLIAMS: It's socialism. Blame everything on people like. Oh, let's fix healthcare for America. Let's do something about student debt. Huh, socialism. And then you know that graph you showed, Greg, about the ages? Huh, how interesting that seniors who get social security and Medicare say, oh, terrible thing, socialism. That's a socialist policy.
GUTFELD: It's not their money.
WILLIAMS: Oh, no, it's not. We put money into --
GUTFELD: No.
WILLIAMS: -- the social security --
GUTFELD: I put a lot of money to my social security. That's my money.
WILLIAMS: But it does not --
GUTFELD: It's not coming back. Exactly, socialism. I'll never seeing it again.
WILLIAMS: But I mean, to me, it's the young people who are putting in -- who are paying for those policies. I think they're less likely to see social security --
GUTFELD: I agree with you.
WILLIAMS: -- than the seniors.
GUTFELD: Another bad program.
WILLIAMS: But you look at the G.I. bill. You look at so many things. They are intended to mediate the excesses of capitalism which has embraced everything from child labor, to slavery, to monopoly --
WATTERS: Juan, it's 2019, man.
WILLIAMS: That's capitalism.
GUTFELD: It's 2019. Dana, if you look at campuses, though, you will not find a single sober analysis of socialism.
PERINO: And do you know what you'll find?
GUTFELD: What?
PERINO: You will still find Howard Zen's book --
GUTFELD: Right.
PERINO: -- as a best seller. So this is a guy who wrote the history -- basically says America's bad.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
PERINO: Capitalism is bad. But I wish I can remember the name of it. This weekend in the Wall Street Journal, Naomi Riley had an interview with a guy who's written a counter book.
GUTFELD: Right, right.
PERINO: I'm going to bring it up -- maybe in the commercial break somebody will find it for me. And he's a professor. He's like, no. Like, actually, all of this is good. And I wonder about young people, part of this is it just rebelling against their parents? Or like wanting to be different? Like, to find something else. And I do think there's this notion that Scandinavia is like the utopia.
GUTFELD: Right.
PERINO: And they think this is where -- and I actually -- like, go live there for a while.
GUTFELD: And also realize that most of their wealth was due to free markets and trade before they enacted these big governments --
PERINO: And also because of fossil fuel, oil and gas. That is actually how a lot of them have been able to fund their governments.
WILLIAMS: I just think, Dana, a lot of the young people are the biggest victims of income inequality.
GUTFELD: Caused by?
WILLIAMS: Caused by -- I mean, it's just like homelessness. You know, Emily is talking about homelessness. Why do you think -- why do we have so much homelessness, not just on the west coast --
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WILLIAMS: -- because we have a booming economy --
GUTFELD: Cities run by liberal mayors.
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WATTERS: So there's a booming economy?
WILLIAMS: The economy right now is hot.
WATTERS: OK, thank you.
GUTFELD: Thank you.
WATTERS: Let's just full stop. Let's wrap it up and do a sound bite.
WILLIAMS: Yeah. Thank you, President Obama. I know that hurt you Joker.
GUTFELD: All right. You know what? I'm happy. You're happy. Let's move on.
PERINO: I had a great point but I'll save it --
GUTFELD: No, no. One last point.
PERINO: The point about Medicare for all. Look at Bernie Sanders. He was number two in the Democratic National Committee last year.
GUTFELD: He is number two.
PERINO: A lot of people say that he would have been number one if it hasn't been rigged against him.
GUTFELD: Yes.
PERINO: But now he's 20 or more points behind Biden.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
PERINO: OK, why? But, you think Medicare for all. That actually has hurt the Democrats.
GUTFELD: Right.
PERINO: And so -- I don't think that this is the way that they want to go politically because if you start asking actual Democrats, do you like the healthcare plan that you have, they say yes.
GUTFELD: Yes. I think that was a good point.
PERINO: I don't know if it's really a good point. Now that I said it out loud it doesn't sound as good it did in my head.
GUTFELD: And it digs to our next segment about Biden. We have less time to bash him.
PERINO: OK, go for it.
GUTFELD: All right. A wall sighting at President Trump's rally and it looks like a big Joe Biden flip-flop on immigration, next on “The Five.”
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT: Give him my pen. Come on. Look at this guy.
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PERINO: President Trump having fun with a supporter on immigration at his rally last night, while Joe Biden is facing questions about his past positions. A 2007 clip resurfacing showing Biden criticizing sanctuary cities.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Would you allow these cities to ignore the federal law?
JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: The reason that cities ignore the federal law is the fact that there is no funding at the federal level to provide for the kind of enforcement on the federal level you need. Part of the problem is, you have to have a federal government that can enforce laws. This administration has been fundamentally derelict in not funding any of the requirements that are needed even to enforce the existing law.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes or no, would you allow the cities to ignore the federal law?
BIDEN: No.
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PERINO: Memories. Memories.
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PERINO: Oh, I remember that one. Jesse?
WATTERS: Yeah.
PERINO: Biden's past positions have not really hurt him so far in the polls, and I wonder when others on his left, within the Democratic candidate field are going to start taking swipes at him.
WATTERS: At the debates.
PERINO: They're going to wait.
WATTERS: They'll take him out at the debates, yeah.
PERINO: Take him out.
WATTERS: Yeah, they'll try to take him out. They have too. They have to take him out early. I think it's all about Pennsylvania because Trump only, as you've said the other day, only needs to win one of the three blue state, rust belt states that he won. He can afford to lose Wisconsin and Michigan but as long as he wins Pennsylvania. He's fine. And he's going to have such an overwhelming financial advantage and resource advantage with the RNC who is outraising the DNC by miles. And he's got the plane and he'll be there in Pennsylvania a lot.
So he's going to make Biden or whoever the nominee is defend their own turf. And they're not really going to try for Florida as much, or Ohio or North Carolina as much. They're going to be on the defensive. So there's a two-prong strategy in Pennsylvania. The one prong is my trade and immigrations policies have protected workers from cheap steel being dumped and from cheap labor. And if you look at the Pennsylvania economy, the jobless rate, all-time low, and payrolls are at an all-time high.
And you'll say about Joe Biden if he's the nominee, he abandoned you. He gave you NAFTA. He let China come into the WTO. He led illegals pour in, and manufacturing jobs were lost under Obama-Biden. So I think that's going to be pretty tough for Biden to rally against.
And the crowd size for Biden was so pathetic during his launch on a Saturday. He barely got 5,000 in Philadelphia, a town of millions. Trump had 20 to 30,000 out in the middle of nowhere in Pennsylvania.
PERINO: But a lovely place.
WATTERS: There is no Biden movement.
PERINO: But it was a lovely place.
WATTERS: Beautiful part of the state.
PERINO: And not only did he -- he'll make the case that Biden abandoned you, he actually -- we'll tell Pennsylvania it abandoned him physically. We have some sound from President Trump last night on that.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT: Don't forget, Biden deserted you. He's not from Pennsylvania. I guess he was born here, but he left you, folks. This guy talks about I know Scranton. I know -- well, I know the places better. He left you for another state and he didn't take care of you because he didn't take care of your jobs. He let other countries come in and rip off America.
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PERINO: Emily, Biden did leave when he was 11 years old.
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PERINO: But the point is he did leave. It's true.
COMPAGNO: And I think it resonated well there. But you know --
WATTERS: If he was tough, he would have told his parents to stay.
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PERINO: I've got aspirations to be president.
COMPAGNO: And Biden just tweeted a little bit ago, right, he responded to that. And he said, look, my dad lost his job. He got a job elsewhere. We have it here up on the screen. I've never forgotten where I came from. And then he made it about the working family. And he kind of did this whole thread where he's saying, you know, the hardest walk a parent has to do is up the stairs to tell his kid he's leaving. I think what Trump has on his side, especially on Pennsylvania, the kind of dovetail --
WATTERS: Are you going to disagree with me again?
COMPAGNO: No, I agree.
WATTERS: OK.
COMPAGNO: No, I'm taking it further. I'm raising you on it. Is that everything there I think he can tie back to his two-pronged messaging and also that Biden is the establishment candidate. So he's going to say, for example, like Pennsylvania is still in a disaster declaration for the opioid epidemic. They have not forgotten. That can be directly tied to the southern border crisis. It can be directly tied to China.
There's so many things that Trump can tie into and say what has Biden done for you these past 40 years that he's been serving this entire country? Something that he has on his side and will resonate, and especially going back to, you know, there are older voters in that audience and it resonated with them when he said, look, there was that exodus that happened, you know. Since then, there hasn't been something under Biden's watch that really fixed that.
PERINO: Greg, what do you think about President Trump treating Joe Biden as the frontrunner? Good idea at this point?
GUTFELD: I guess so. I don't know. I still think it's too early. I just keep -- forget about -- how anybody with experience is going to be haunted by the ghosts of infractions past. I actually liked old Biden. That old Biden, you know, when -- I was with him on immigration and I was with him on crime. I don't know what the new Biden is. It's like they move the goal posts of common sense and they replace it with the goal post of wokeness.
So everybody has got to change their stances now. And that's why somebody like Mayor Pete and Beto, who used to have the benefit of having no experience, they have no experience, they can't get you on anything, you know?
PERINO: Right, like President Obama.
GUTFELD: Yeah, President Obama --
WATTERS: And then you know they're changing their positions not based on facts or new reality. It's just changing because other people's feelings - -
GUTFELD: That's all it is. And it shows a lack of spine.
PERINO: Bernie Sanders did have an effect of moving a lot of the party to the left and the young people like it.
WILLIAMS: Well, I think the party has moved to the left. I don't know if it's just Bernie, but I think that's true. But I appreciate the idea that people change their positions, Jesse. I mean, gee, Donald Trump on abortion, huh? Or Donald Trump on the war in Iraq, huh? I guess --
WATTERS: Did he change?
WILLIAMS: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
PERINO: Yeah, he's pretty consistent on Iraq.
WATTERS: I've change too, Juan. I used to not like you, and now you home up.
WILLIAMS: Oh, no. Don't do it. Don't do it. Because if she disagrees with you, I want to disagree -- like, I want to get on the Emily bandwagon. But let me just say this. I think if we invited Donald Trump to the table to play poker with “The Five,” I'd take his money big time. You know why?
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WILLIAMS: No, no, let me finish.
WATTERS: You know the race card.
WILLIAMS: The race card?
WATTERS: Yeah.
WILLIAMS: No, you're the 1 percent black person. So here's what he does. He is right now -- it's like a tell, it's like a poker player and he keeps blinking. He's like what's -- I know what's going on. He thinks Joe Biden is a threat in Pennsylvania. That's why he's attacking Joe Biden like that. He's not attacking Kamala Harris.
He's not going after anybody else. He's going after Joe Biden. He's going after the media sometimes. Oh, just last night, he's going after the media again. He's going after Justin Amash. Why? There's a Republican who's fondly saying it's time to impeach this idiot. Yes.
PERINO: Whoa.
WILLIAMS: This is no --
WATTERS: He's not an idiot, Juan. He's the President of the United States.
WILLIAMS: What?
GUTFELD: By the way, his reasons for impeachment -- what were his reasons? Did anybody actually know what Amash --
PERINO: Because he read the report.
GUTFELD: Yeah, I know. It's like -- so what are you saying is like -- so that's an -- and he goes guilty of impeachable offenses. Please tell me more. Tell me more. And he has nothing. He's looking for a job.
PERINO: Well, maybe. That's interesting. We're going to have a chance to talk about it. Up next, Nancy Pelosi clashing with top Democrats over whether or not to impeach President Trump.
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WATTERS: Nancy Pelosi's impeachment problem getting a whole lot worse. She reportedly clashed with top Democrats during a tense standoff last night, and now Pelosi is calling for a special party meeting tomorrow to figure out how to deal with it. Despite the impeachment rift, Pelosi saying there's nothing to worry about.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Madam Speaker, are you feeling increase pressure to impeach the president in your caucus?
REP. NANCY PELOSI, D-CALIF.: No.
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WATTERS: But, apparently, Pelosi hasn't been listening to people like Jerry Nadler. He's fuming over former White House counsel Don McGahn skipping his committee's hearing and is ready to take things much further.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: First thing we're going to do is hold -- we're going to have to hold McGahn in contempt. You're dealing with a lawless president who is willing to go to any lengths to prevent testimony that might implicate him -- that does implicate him.
The constitute of the president and his lawless behavior is making it more and more difficult to ignore all alternatives including impeachment.
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WATTERS: OK, Juan, do you think impeachment is more of a problem for Pelosi or for President Trump?
WILLIAMS: Pelosi.
WATTERS: you do?
WILLIAMS: Yeah.
WATTERS: Wow.
WILLIAMS: Yeah. I just -- you know, to me, Pelosi's first choice and I think she's made this very clear to everybody is not to impeach.
WATTERS: Right.
WILLIAMS: She wanted to have a series of hearings. If the facts emerge that push people at that direction, fine. But otherwise, she wanted to pursue a Democratic agenda and she's been doing it, by the way, but doesn't get much attention. But I think that was her strategy, Jesse.
But what we see is, I think, Trump's not allowing the investigations to go forward with his blanket obstruction not only of people in terms of Don McGahn, but documents, the judge yesterday just had to say the financial records must be made approve -- available to the Congress. Of course, Trump immediately says that's a Obama judge. We're going to appeal. So that slow-walks it further.
I think he wants to be impeached by the House because he then will not be convicted by a Republican majority in the Senate, and then he will say to his grievance loving supporters, oh, you know, they beat me up, but I'm still standing. You know, they sent Mueller after me, I'm still standing. Now they impeach me, I'm still standing. So he becomes the victim for the conservatives who love their grievance.
WATTERS: You're nodding your head over here. Do you agree that Trump wants to be impeached in the House?
GUTFELD: I think that it's like that Tom Sawyer story where you trick the kid into painting the fence by exaggerating its therapeutic benefit. He's like, yeah, go for it. Yeah, do it then because it's like this is going to be the greatest. I think it's going to turn him -- I don't think it's about victimization. It's about -- It's about --
WILLIAMS: Was that Clark Kent?
GUTFELD: Yes. It's about being -- I realize his glasses are way too big. It's folk hero status when you go after somebody during -- he's got a great economy going. All this good stuff is happening, peace and prosperity, and you're impeaching him? It's going to turn him into Paul Bunyan.
But, I also have this, this is my new theory, Trump will get reelected because this is all theater. Literally, he has become a six theater AMC multiplex.
PERINO: Yes.
GUTFELD: He has over six movies playing as the same time. You show up at Trump theaters you've got in one theater, tweet storm.
WATTERS: Yeah.
GUTFELD: And in another one you've got North Korea, executive action. And another one you've got economy on fire. And then another one you have celebs melt down 3. Then in the other one you have the other theory of collusion psychosis. And then you have rally fever. And then you have family affairs, Rated R. And so you have so much to choose from, right. And the movies aren't violent. They're fun. Everybody is having a good time.
WATTERS: Popcorn.
GUTFELD: No. He's going to be re-elected because he is just making more movies.
WATTERS: Big Box Office at the White House for Donald Trump.
GUTFELD: Yes.
WATTERS: Tomorrow morning, Pelosi is going to get on this phone call. What do you think that's going to be like?
PERINO: Well, I think there is obviously pressure and the other thing is very interesting is that so far, she has been able to keep everybody pretty much in line. But now you see people who disagree with her willing to go out and do interviews, they're on the record, they're tweeting about it, they're openly in revolt. So, I think she had to have this phone call of course, every reporter you know is going to be on the phone call, so we'll also in some way, we'll find out everything on the phone call.
I think President Trump is already 98 percent under impeachment. And just making it official. Well maybe change a little bit, but they're already doing all of the things basically to impeach somebody. All the documents, all the testimony, all of that request. She has the support from the majority of her Democrats, but the natives are restless, because they're saying wait, she told us we have to win the majority in order to hold President Trump accountable, but now she's saying, we can't hold President Trump accountable because we have to keep the majority. And you can understand that their grassroots are frustrated.
WATTERS: Right, because she doesn't want people in swing districts. Democrats having to take a tough vote on impeachment. That's a really ugly vote on an election year.
COMPAGNO: Yes, and that mixed messaging. I feel like it's wrapped up in with that revolt and what did the constituents feel. So, there are a ton of people that are Democrats sorry that ran in 2018 and that was on - well, let's let the Mueller Report play out. The people who are crying about impeachment weren't the ones that were running--
WATTERS: Right.
COMPAGNO: In battles states or whatever. Right. So, there's that faction. So, now in that revolt revealing true colors, but also even people like for example Senator Warren who said oh well you know upholding the constitution like means more than the party. But if strategy - when strategy comes into play, it is so obvious because if it mattered to the Democrats actually getting to the truth or the bottom of everything then they would be making a greater deal about Mueller testifying and what impeachment does by the way is strengthen the power to compel. So, if they cared about--
WILLIAMS: Wait a second. I think they are making a big deal about Mueller I mean the whole idea--
COMPAGNO: No, it's all about McGahn now.
WILLIAMS: No, Mueller too. They're trying - they want Mueller to testify. Mueller is the one that's holding back. And I think Trump is also saying, he doesn't want McGahn to testify. This is about refusal to acknowledge the requirement of congressional oversight.
PERINO: But after Pelosi's phone call, they're going to then the Democrats are all going back to the White House to talk about infrastructure.
WATTERS: Oh, that's right.
WATTERS: I think McGann already testified for 30 hours.
COMPAGNO: Yes.
WILLIAMS: What?
WATTERS: To Mueller
WILLIAMS: Yes, but not--
WATTERS: Here we go.
COMPAGNO: But they wouldn't accept--
WATTERS: Up next, Hollywood liberals rage against President Trump and some new rants you haven't heard before
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COMPAGNO: Hollywood liberals still seething over President Trump. Longtime Trump hater Robert De Niro using an award show in Beverly Hills to unleash this foul-mouthed attack.
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ROBERT DE NIRO, ACTOR: You didn't think you were completely going to get away with it, without a F*** Trump moment did you?
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The individual who currently purports to lead America is not worthy of any tribute.
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Unless you think of his impeachment and imprisonment as a sort of tribute. Now that's how you can make America great again.
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COMPAGNO: And Dumb and Dumber star Jeff Daniels also slamming Trump and his supporters here.
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JEFF DANIELS, ACTOR: If the big gamble is to go all the way to November 2020, which I agree and lose is the end of democracy. That's what I see when I look at Trump's rallies. That's when I see the lies spewing at these people and people going, I've got to believe in something. At the end of the day. aside from - I don't want to pay taxes. It's race. It's race. This is about the Republican Party or a wing of it going, this is our last chance to save the party. And the only way they can do that was to tap the race button.
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COMPAGNO: OK. So, this was the first year of the American Icon Awards and the focus of it per the creator was to recognize and honor people who have made significant leadership contributions who make positive impact on society and inspire others.
GUTFELD: Why wasn't I there.
COMPAGNO: So, given that would you say that it's selfish and kind of shortsighted and detracts from that message for Robert De Niro and these celebrities to go up on stage and have kind of their personal vehement political messaging during an awards ceremony like that.
WILLIAMS: Not particularly. I mean clearly, we all know Hollywood is pretty much liberal. Right. We know New York State is liberal. We know California, New York voted for Hillary Clinton, right. So, it's no surprise people have the right to their opinions and they're going to have the right to express their opinions. This is America. They also have the right to their vote. But I would say that most of us can separate out Jeff Daniels, who is in a spectacular play right now on Broadway To Kill a Mockingbird. From his opinions and we can separate out Robert De Niro who I think by everyone's assessment is an astounding actor from his opinions.
But no, I think they have a right to express their opinions, because they don't see Trump as belonging in the same category, it's almost like a point of contrast as people who have you know distinguished themselves through great accomplishments.
COMPAGNO: So, Jesse, Juan mentioned Hollywood. But at the recipients also included athletes and musicians and it wasn't just Hollywood and there were a lot of celebs there that stayed quiet and apolitical. So, would you argue that that's a sign of disagreement actually?
WATTERS: Well, they have enough money and street credit in Hollywood to say whatever they want. They've earned it and they're great actors and I'll still watch their movies, I don't care. But if you combine what De Niro said with Daniels, it has every ingredient in the resistance pie. If you think about what they said, they have profanity, impeachment, the lock him up, the race card and the constitutional crisis. But they're - they lack so much introspection. They don't see the hypocrisy with what they're saying.
So, you have - they're yearning for civility, yet they use profanity. They're saying, we have to save democracy, but they want to short circuit it with impeachment. They say, lock him up. But three years ago, that was a slur against Hillary. And they're accusing Donald Trump of playing the race card they've played it for the last 10 years. That's the only card they play.
COMPAGNO: So, Dana is that going to have the same effect it did in 2016 which is like Hollywood getting involved alienates voter. It has the opposite effect they want to.
PERINO: It has never had an effect on me like I would - I appreciate a lot of their talents for what they do in entertainment. That's fantastic. But I've never gone to them for leadership when it comes to politics. What is interesting is that this past weekend there was a big national vote in Australia and by all accounts the left was going to sweep it. Turns out, the Conservatives kicked rear end.
GUTFELD: Watch your mouth.
PERINO: Everybody is like. How could this possibly happen.
GUTFELD: Yes.
PERINO: That must be because there are so many races in Australia. That must be the reason why. There is no other explanation. Actually, if you look at what happened like the working-class pushback against the climate agenda which was, we're going to put all of these curbs here in Australia. But we're not going to have to do - China is not going to have to do anything.
India is not going to have to do anything and they rebelled. And so, you have shy conservative voters, you have shy Trump voters and they think they're always surprised that there are actual conservatives out there. But they are - conservatives are able to separate entertainment from politics.
COMPAGNO: Greg, take us home.
GUTFELD: This is the other theater right. It’s celebrity meltdowns three. It's where it's like Shakespeare in the park for a rational emotional basket case. They can't see how funny and enjoyable it is for us. But Hollywood is a coked-up cesspool of misogyny and sex abuse. That's what it is. I don't take - no one should listen to them. Jeff Daniels is such a putz for what I've been saying that the end of democracy when people elect someone that's the end of it, it's because the guy you don't like, one.
Number two, about race I think wasn't it like 20 percent of people who voted for Obama switched voted for Trump. How does he argue that? I think this is more about elitism, classism. They're snobs. They don't like most of America and they don't like most of the Trump voters because they are Americans. And De Niro how stupid is he without a script. Isn't that amazing. I used to think, that guy is brilliant. But once you take the words away from him, he is so stupid. Impeachment will make America great again and everybody, I mean how. intellectually deprived he is. He's a coke addled simpleton (ph) you know without a script. It is hysterical.
WATTERS: Does he have a big coke problem.
GUTFELD: No, I just read that article that you sent me about last night of John Belushi and how De Niro was there and just basically partied with him and then split. And it's just like that's now. Now I just think of him as a really stupid guy.
WATTERS: Well, he's got the Irishman coming out that looks pretty good.
GUTFELD: I'm going to go see it.
WATTERS: You should go see it.
COMPAGNO: All right, you guys. Next up, an enormous Great White Shark spotted near America's biggest city has everybody buzzing. That's next on “The Five.”
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WILLIAMS: Just in time for Memorial Day weekend, quite the scare and the waters here on the East Coast. For the first time ever, a massive great white shark spotted in Long Island Sound just off the coast of Greenwich, Connecticut. Researchers are tracking the giant 10-footer named Cabot, that's now swimming near New York City. Oh! My gosh. The huge beast was tagged last year off the coast of Canada. And since then he's traveled as far south as Florida. So, Emily are you getting apoplectic here.
COMPAGNO: No. OK. So, earlier I was laughing because at the commercial break Jesse started saying that he was talking about a movie that was shot on his block. And I thought he was talking about the shark that was that the shark was shot. And so that's why I had that horrible expression that is kind of - and I know this is a little bit tangential, but I just wanted to--
GUTFELD: No, that was tangential.
COMPAGNO: I love this. And also, that do you guys remember--
WILLIAMS: Wait, what do you love?
COMPAGNO: The shark.
WILLIAMS: You love just--
GUTFELD: Do you like the idea of shooting a shark.
COMPAGNO: Yes.
GUTFELD: Shooting a shark.
COMPAGNO: Just like the beluga that we all love too. Anyway.
PERINO: I don't like it.
COMPAGNO: You don't?
PERINO: No, I never even had it. Absolutely not.
WILLIAMS: You never had what?
GUTFELD: Beluga caviar.
PERINO: No.
WILLIAMS: No, that's not what she said.
COMPAGNO: The one that we love. The one in Norway.
WATTERS: Guys, we're on television.
WILLIAMS: Baby Beluga spying the Russia.
COMPAGNO: Thank you.
GUTFELD: John Belushi.
COMPAGNO: What.
WILLIAMS: All right. I can tell we're off the rails already. But let me go to my number one draft pick. Jesse. So, what we have here is a situation where people are saying oh! my god, this shark could attack people because Memorial Day is coming, people go swimming. But in fact, you know in 2017, we had I think like 53 shark attacks on the whole country. No fatalities. So, I'm just thinking more people die from mosquito bites. More people die crossing the street, but everybody is upset about this shark in New York.
WATTERS: Well, the sharks names Cabot so he's not going to bite anybody. I don't know who named the shark. It's not very scary, should name it Damian or something like that. I swim off these waters. I was essentially fishing off the north shore over the weekend, I caught some pogoes (ph). I know how to deal with sharks. If a shark comes at you, you treat it like a bully. You punch it and you gouge its eyes, or you don't wear jewelry in the water when you swim because they think it's gills.
GUTFELD: That must be a problem.
WATTERS: Yes, I've got a lot of play. You also, you act big. OK. Don't play dead. That's how you wind up dead and then never swim at night, because you can't see the shark coming. And then if you do get bitten, you go right to the shore don't sit there and bleed and dawdle in the water because then you're going to have more sharks swarming. You're welcome.
WILLIAMS: Thank you. Thank you, doctor. You know what I would sum that up by saying?
WATTERS: What?
WILLIAMS: We're going to need a bigger boat. Dana.
PERINO: Not a problem for me. Don't go in the water.
WILLIAMS: You don't go swimming.
PERINO: No. And I would never go swim that far out. No.
WILLIAMS: What about bailing? Yes, you do that. But you don't ever go swimming?
PERINO: Not in the ocean. No.
WILLIAMS: Why?
PERINO: It's just freezing.
WILLIAMS: OK.
PERINO: And I'm not that comfortable.
GUTFELD: It's the ocean. It's the Earth's toilet. I like the beach. I hate the ocean. Look, to Juan's correct point. The shark is the first victim of fake news and you can put it all on Steven Spielberg with that movie changed the way people looked at sharks, because sharks don't kill that many people. In fact, I think in this segment alone, this four-minute segment more people have probably died in car accidents or accidental overdoses, blah-blah-blah. Shark coverage is a microcosm of Trump coverage. You have nonstop sightings, fear mongering, nonsensical hysteria, all created by the media who then makes these segments and we just keep recycling.
PERINO: I need a bigger movie theater.
GUTFELD: Yes, we are. We are. But sharks are great. Imagine if a shark got on land like a land shark and killed 27,000 to 30,000 people every year. That's a car.
COMPAGNO: Sharknado.
PERINO: Did you learn this last night?
GUTFELD: Yes, my traffic class, I took five hours.
WATTERS: I thought you were off because you were binging on Game of Thrones.
GUTFELD: No, no. I was binging on safety.
WATTERS: OK.
GUTFELD: Safety, binging on safety.
WILLIAMS: What were you going to say, Emily?
COMPAGNO: You guys are so good. OK, so in 1974 when Jaws was being filmed in Provincetown, a woman called Lady of the Dunes. Her body was found to this day she's not been identified. But Stephen King's son was watching a documentary on The Making of Jaws. Then he was watching Jaws, and he took over as an extra in the film. 2015, 40 years later. And so now they're like potentially going to identify the remains with her.
GUTFELD: So, wait, the remains were actually in Jaws? She was an extra in Jaws and then she died.
WILLIAMS: Can we do TV. All right, One More Thing is up next for your entertainment.
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GUTFELD: It's time for One More Thing. I go first with this. Animals Are Great. Let's start this, it's long. All right, sometimes when you're on your back and you need a friend to get you back on your feet. You hope that maybe there is a friend nearby.
COMPAGNO: Oh! My God.
GUTFELD: No one bothers me about this tape is that there are people filming this and could easily have solved the problem right there. Come on over and say, maybe I should help this little tortoise by the way that's Teddy tortoise and his buddy Clyde.
WATTERS: I have a feeling--
GUTFELD: They've been living together in Vermont. They had a bed and breakfast for a while. What?
WATTERS: I have the feeling that people are filming animal videos to make it on animals are great now. GUTFELD: There we go. And they run away into the mouth of a giant shark. All right. Turtle. Juan.
WILLIAMS: All right. Doesn't it give you chills when the little guy wins one. Let me introduce you to Tupac Mosley, the Memphis Tennessee high school valedictorian. He just got accepted into more than 40 colleges.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When I heard that I get 3 million, I was more than a--
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WILLIAMS: You know you heard that right. Mr. Mosley was offered more than $3 million dollars in college scholarships. Now if you really want to throw your graduation cap into the sky, listen to this. He's homeless. His family was evicted from their home in February. They could no longer afford their rent after his dad died. So, while going from place to place, he kept a 4.3 GPA. Now in the fall he's going to Tennessee State University. Talk about inspiring, talk about beating the odds. Way to go Mr. Mosley.
WATTERS: He gets an adversity score.
WILLIAMS: He would really gotten a lot of schools.
PERINO: All right. So, talk about a real missed connection. And as somebody who met their husband on an airplane, you're going to hear about this hate and her (ph), she's a tight end for the Baltimore Ravens. So, he thought he saw the love of his life on a flight back to Maryland over the weekend, but he never got the chance to talk to it, because a fan in the airport stopped him before he can approach the mystery woman.
So, he took the next logical step, he's gone to Twitter and he wrote to the gorgeous Tom Burnett on my flight to Baltimore. You walk incredibly fast and I couldn't catch up and here's hoping you have Twitter #theonegotaway. And so far, he hasn't heard from his potential soulmate. But we are hoping that we on THE FIVE and Fox News can help Hayden find this lady.
GUTFELD: Do you assume it's a lady, it's a bit much.
WILLIAMS: Here we go.
GUTFELD: Dana. God, what kind of world we live in. Where am I, Jesse?
WATTERS: All right. Big congratulations in order for my cousin Harper Watters who's featured in the Ralph Lauren ad campaign. It is called Pride collection and he's one of five models who was selected to be the face of Ralph Lauren's new pride collection. All gender neutral. T shirts, polo shirts, hoodie and everything goes to LGBTQ charities and I'm just a little upset. I'm not the best-looking Watters in the family.
GUTFELD: I'm sure he's really happy about your endorsement, Jesse. Great. Thanks. Now my friends hate me. Emily.
WATTERS: He's a professional ballerina by the way.
WILLIAMS: Ballerina.
WATTERS: So, I'm not only - I'm not the best looking. I'm not the best athlete either.
GUTFELD: All right, I'm sorry Emily.
COMPAGNO: Just real quick. This Florida high school student had got more than just -- oh, got it. We're going to cover it tomorrow potentially.
Jesse, who does your cousin dance for?
WATTERS: Houston Ballet.
COMPAGNO: Sneaky.
WATTERS: Hi, Bret.
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