This is a rush transcript from "On the Record ," September 18, 2007. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can you describe for us the noise you heard, Mr. Kaelin?

KATO KAELIN, SIMPSON HOUSE GUEST: It was — you know, my room has this wall. It was like that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: For the record, the witness thumped on the witness stand with his fist.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And you hit the witness stand, like, three times or so. Was that three noises that you heard?

KAELIN: I believe it was three noises. It was thumping.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It sounded like three thumps.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And where did the thumps seem to come from?

KAELIN: Right behind the bedroom wall.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What happened when you heard those thumps?

KAELIN: Well, I was on the phone, and I said — asked Rachel (ph), I said, I think we had an earthquake. Did we have an earthquake? And no, she'd said. And I noticed a picture had moved, so I was — started thinking that maybe it was a person back there.


GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Kato Kaelin was O.J. Simpson's house guest on June 12, 1994, the infamous night in question. He heard a loud thud that night, but little did he know at the time he would be a key witness for the prosecution in Simpson's murder trial. Kato Kaelin joins us. Nice to see you, Kato.

KAELIN: Greta, how are you? Had I known you were in Vegas, I would have flown up.

VAN SUSTEREN: I know. It's too bad. I should have tipped you off. Kato...


VAN SUSTEREN: ... it's been a long time. When you look at that videotape of you on the witness stand, what do you think?

KAELIN: Haircut.

VAN SUSTEREN: Haircut, yes.

KAELIN: It was a — Greta, that's — I am so glad that time is over in my life. You know, I look at it this way, Greta. If you think about it, it's like a trilogy for O.J. It really is. It's like sort of the "Godfather" I, II and II. It's the — it's the criminal trial. That's part I. It's the civil trial, and now he's going to have a robbery trial, kidnapping trial. Isn't it amazing?

And all this — all these negative things are sort of inevitable because always bad things kept happening. He had a 911 call from Sydney. He had a 911 from his girlfriend at the time, or maybe he's still with her, the pirating of DirecTV, the accident with the car in front, he got — you know, that guy had to call the police on him. All these bad things kept happening, and now look what's happening? He's at another trial. He's in jail.

VAN SUSTEREN: Indeed, he is in jail. In fact, in about 12 hours, he faces a judge to see whether or not he can get out of jail pending trial. Kato, when was the last time you spoke to O.J., and what did he have to say to you and what'd you say to him?

KAELIN: You know, I have no contact with really anybody in the trial anymore. The last time I saw O.J. was in the depositions for the civil trial, and believe it or not, Greta, it was in the men's room. And it was just us, and I was very uncomfortable. And all's he said to me was just, Answer everything honestly. And I took off. I washed my hands and then I took off.

VAN SUSTEREN: When you were living at Rockingham, what did you think of O.J.? Did you like him, think he was, you know — or dislike him? What'd you think of him?

KAELIN: Well, of course, before anything, I thought, This guy — This is a jolly guy who's charismatic. Everybody loves this guy. And of course, I knew it was O.J. Simpson from the Buffalo Bills. I was raised in Wisconsin, Green Bay Packers. I know football. So yes, I thought this guy was charismatic, and he seemed a very, very happy guy. I thought — you know, no way in a million years did I think, you know, what I think now, that, you know, possibly he's a — you know, a murderer and also a — going to be up for another crime.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did you hear the tape that TMZ.com has that — of — that he was over — that was taped in the hotel room? Did you hear that?

KAELIN: I did hear that. I heard, you know, with the swearing. And two things with that. First of all, Why is there tape, is what I always (INAUDIBLE) And someone — is this sort of a set-up or not? And also, I think someone knows how to push his buttons. And if someone can get him going, that'll push his buttons — very emotional, they can get him to go over the top, and I think that might have happened.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, let's switch gears for a second.


VAN SUSTEREN: Your life, Kato — in fact, on Gretawire.com, I couldn't resist linking to a YouTube video of you. In fact, if viewers want to see it, they can go at Gretawire at 4:30 yesterday, or they can go to YouTube. Tell us what this video is and what you're doing.

KAELIN: Oh, I did a commercial for a company called Ask.com. It's a search engine. And Greta, it is so funny. They hired 200 dancers. They molded my face, so they had all these Katos. It sort of has an "Eyes Wide Shut" look to it. And it's been wonderful for me, and it's where I always wanted to be, doing these great things. So it's a big great national commercial campaign for Ask.com. And they had me as the King Kato, and the girl finally found what she was looking for, me!

VAN SUSTEREN: Kato, do people still recognize you when you walk down the street?

KAELIN: Yes. You know, Greta, I've had a show on for two years, the "Eye for an Eye," which, by the way, is sort of ironic because it's a show where people are — they get the crime that they committed, and it's an eye for an eye. For instance, if someone parked handicapped that wasn't, we actually gave a guy an epidural. He had to do five things in a wheelchair. And I thought, Oh, my goodness, robbery with O.J. What a guest that would be. He'd be in our court, and he'd have a pretty bad revenge, I think.

VAN SUSTEREN: Kato, always nice to see you. Thank you.

KAELIN: I'm coming up there! You and me in the Bellagio, forget about it! We're crazy!

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, I can hardly wait. See you, Kato.

KAELIN: You're the best, Greta.

VAN SUSTEREN: Thank you, Kato.

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