John Bolton: Putin looked Trump in the eye and lied
This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," July 7, 2017. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: This is a "Fox News Alert," President Trump confronts Vladimir Putin over Russia's election interference, and the two leaders strike a deal on Syria.
I'm Laura Ingraham, in for Sean tonight.
Earlier today at the G-20 summit in Germany, President Trump and Putin met face to face for the first time. And after their sit down, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson explained what was said about election hacking. Listen to this.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
REX TILLERSON, SECRETARY OF STATE: The president opened the meeting with President Putin by raising the concerns of the American people regarding Russian interference in the 2016 election. They had a very robust and lengthy exchange on the subject. The president pressed President Putin on more than one occasion regarding Russian involvement. President Putin denied such involvement, as I think he has in the past.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
INGRAHAM: Shocking that he would deny that! Secretary Tillerson added that the Trump administration is pressing China over North Korea.
Here now with reaction is former U.S. ambassador to the U.N., Fox News contributor John Bolton. Mr. Ambassador, how you doing? Very summery today with your suit, from seersucker to Syria, all these problems we're facing.
Let's talk about this meeting with Putin. This went on for a couple of hours. Apparently, Melania Trump tried to break it up at one point. She was, like, let's go, let's go, let's go! Went on for another hour. Give me the highlights from your perspective, maybe some thoughts on -- on what was raised that isn't getting the headlines today.
JOHN BOLTON, FMR. U.S. AMB. TO U.N., FOX CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I think the fact that President Trump opened the meeting by talking about Russian interference in our election, and according to Secretary of State Tillerson, pressed it several times should be the end of the allegations about--
BOLTON: -- Russian collusion with the Trump campaign. Of course, it won't be, but--
BOLTON: -- just for reality's sake--
BOLTON: -- that was important. But even more important I think for the president was that Vladimir Putin denied any Russian interference in American elections. Now, everybody who has looked at the classified information says there's no doubt the Russians tried to affect the election. And that's something I think should be unacceptable to all Americans -- Russia, China--
BOLTON: -- forget it. So Vladimir Putin looked Donald Trump directly in the eye and lied to him. And I think that's the single most important takeaway coming out of this meeting.
INGRAHAM: Do you actually think that the -- the Soviet -- former Soviet KGB guy was going to say, Oh, yes, we have some kids that are hacking into U.S. systems? And we know you're doing the same thing to us. He's not going to say that! I mean, I lived in the former Soviet Union. This is not surprising at all that he looked right at him and lied. This is what they do.
BOLTON: I had -- I had no doubt about it.
BOLTON: But now that that's happened--
BOLTON: -- I want to wait for the next Democrat to say, you know, it's time for another arms control agreement--
INGRAHAM: Oh, I got it.
BOLTON: -- with Russia.
INGRAHAM: I got it. Yes. So you can't -- you can't trust them at face value. Though we can say the same thing about the Chinese. You could say the same thing about many of our so-called adversaries who are not enemies, correct?
BOLTON: You're right. And so that leads to the question, why do we keep trying to negotiate with them--
INGRAHAM: Why do we negotiate with China, John? You could say the same thing about doing the TPP, all the work we're doing with China on trade. I mean, are they telling the truth about -- about cheating on trade, about stealing our intellectual property? We're always willing to give China the benefit of the doubt, but it's Russophobia, Russophobia, Russophobia. I'm sorry, but I just think there's never any kind of, you know, equilibrium when it comes to the criticism -- not talking about you, but you know, some of other media outlets out there.
BOLTON: Right. Well, I'd love to have this conversation about China.
BOLTON: Maybe we can do this tomorrow after the Xi Jinping meeting.
BOLTON: But it's very significant as a learning experience both for the president and the former head of Exxon, who--
INGRAHAM: They said they had a good talk, though. They said--
BOLTON: You can have good talks with people who lie to you. It happens all the time.
INGRAHAM: Yes. No, it happens husbands, wives--
INGRAHAM: But let's talk about this Syria at least partial sectional regional ceasefire. You're skeptical. Why?
BOLTON: I'm very nervous about this for two reasons. One on the broad level, I think it was a mistake for Barack Obama to acquiesce in greater Russian presence militarily in Syria. I understand the physical reality now, but this deal goes a long way toward politically acquiescing and legitimizing in the Russian presence, and I think that's a mistake, number one.
Number two, I'm not at all sure that this ceasefire -- assuming it holds, and that's a big assumption -- doesn't mostly benefit the Assad regime. In other words, it gives them some calm on this particular front to enable them to move forward on another front.
INGRAHAM: Tillerson's not going to be rolled over on this (INAUDIBLE) I mean, do you think Tillerson or secretary or defense is going to go along with something they think is completely unworkable? I mean, they're pretty involved in all of this. I mean, not -- not -- not so much Mattis over there, but certainly Tillerson was. And he -- what he said was, It looks that we can build on this conversation for future progress.
BOLTON: What bothers me about it more than anything else, it sounds exactly like the Obama administration position. The secretary of state then went on to say, We expect Assad to leave. We'll have a transition period. We haven't quite worked out the details how that's going to happen. The Russians are never going to acquiesce in Assad leaving, as they have not for the past six years--
INGRAHAM: Oh, they want something, too, right?
BOLTON: If it endangers their presence in Syria.
INGRAHAM: But Tillerson said, We both have a common goal, just not the -- the agreed-upon route to get there.
BOLTON: That is exactly the language of Obama and John Kerry.
INGRAHAM: Well, and you could -- let -- let -- speaking of Obama, just for-- going down Memory Lane, let's recall what two prior presidents tried to do in our relationship with Russia. Let's watch.
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GEORGE W. BUSH, THEN-PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul. He's a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country. And I appreciated so very much the frank dialogue.
BARACK OBAMA, THEN-PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This is my last election (INAUDIBLE) I have more flexibility.
DMITRI MEDVEDEV, THEN-RUSSIAN PRESIDENT: I understand. I transmit this to
HILLARY CLINTON, THEN-SECRETARY OF STATE: (INAUDIBLE) a gift which represents what President Obama and Vice President Biden--
(END VIDEO CLIP)
INGRAHAM: Look (INAUDIBLE) Hillary with Lavrov. She gives the wrong button. He's, like, It is wrong translation. I mean, there has been botched attempt after botched attempt to reset the relationship with Russia.
I watched this today knowing full well the history of Russia, the very difficult relationship that we've had over the years, their own history, their own desire to reinvigorate the motherland, and so forth. I actually see this is very hopeful. I'm not looking at it through rose-colored glasses. So what's the alternative here? What is really the alternative with Russia? We're going to, like, go to war over Lithuania or the Ukraine? I don't think so.
BOLTON: Well, I think we always have to calculate what our national interest is.
BOLTON: Certainly, that's what Putin and Lavrov do. And those clips that you showed are three of the most painful moments in American foreign policy--
BOLTON: -- in the last--
INGRAHAM: They never get old!
BOLTON: -- 20 years.
INGRAHAM: I love all three!
BOLTON: Sad to say that--
INGRAHAM: It is wrong translation!
BOLTON: That's why I'm nervous about this Syria issue. That's why I'm nervous about what Secretary Tillerson also said about going back to the negotiating table with North Korea to roll back their nuclear program. The North Koreans have pledged four times in the past 25 years to give up the nuclear program--
INGRAHAM: (INAUDIBLE) ask you something. I had some guy -- a guy on my radio show today, Alan Punnelson (ph), who suggested that we should pull our troops out of South Korea and Japan. If it's thermonuclear war or -- or you know, pulling our troops out, pull out troops out. And he says time to pull up stakes. We've been there for 50 years. But there's actually a really strong current in American thought, popular thought to say we should do that. It's not something I would recommend, but--
BOLTON: No, there is, but it's giving China all of these--
INGRAHAM: Right! China gets the whole territory.
BOLTON: Or having nuclear war. You're not going to avoid nuclear war by pulling out. The Japanese would get nuclear weapons immediately. The fact is, I don't think America should be held hostage to an erratic regime like North Korea or the one in Iran holding nuclear weapons. But after 25 years of failed negotiation, that's very close to where we are.
INGRAHAM: Ambassador John Bolton, great to see you.
BOLTON: Glad you to be with you.
INGRAHAM: Thanks so much.
And here now with more reaction is retired U.S. Army Special Forces officer, Fox News contributor Michael Waltz.
MICHAEL WALTZ, FOX CONTRIBUTOR: Hi.
INGRAHAM: All right, Michael, you just heard the conversation. This is wild. A has been wild week from the Trump visit to Poland and the speech there, warm welcome from the Polish people, the Polish president, to this meeting today with Putin. As Ambassador Bolton said, he's going to be meeting with President Xi tomorrow. Give the grade so far of how this administration is doing.
WALTZ: Well, and don't forget our 4th of July present from Kim Jong-un, the ICBM test.
INGRAHAM: Oh, absolutely, the North Korean missile gift.
WALTZ: I share -- I share the ambassador's skepticism. Look, anyone who's dealt with the Russians, whether overseas or back in Washington, know that they never give anything for free, ever. And they always--
INGRAHAM: Well, who does?
WALTZ: And they--
INGRAHAM: But you guys keep saying this. Who gives anything up unless it's in their national interests--
INGRAHAM: -- the United States?
INGRAHAM: -- China? Absolutely not. We're dealing with a country that wants to assert its national interests. We have our own national interests. Trump and Tillerson are saying, What can we do together, even though we disagree on all this other stuff? And I say that is a good thing. The critics in the United States on the left -- not you guys -- but be damned because they're going to -- they don't want to talk to Russians at all. I mean, they always wanted us to talk to Russians in the `70s and `80s, but now that, you know, we have a chance to talk to them, they don't-- they want -- don't want us to talk to the Russians.
WALTZ: Yes, but the thing to remember, Laura, there is, you know, fine, we all act in our national interests. I'd say there's times that we actually do things on humanitarian grounds or -- you know, or for whatever reasons aside from just cold geopolitics.
But in this case, our interests and the Russian interests aren't aligned, and the piece that we're not talking about here is Iran. You know, Russia is aligned with Iran. They're linked at the hip in and Syria. And the agreement today was only -- read the readout -- was only Jordan, the United States and Russia, not the Assad regime and not the Iranians, and by extension, not Hezbollah that's on the ground.
So that area just operationally on the ground, the area that we're talking about is very limited. It's not where the Iranian militias and where Hezbollah is operating. They're worried about and will continue to create what's called the Shia crescent from Tehran all the way to Lebanon, so that they can hit Israel from a different front. So I'm just very concerned that we kind of have this false sense of security here--
INGRAHAM: No, I get it. No, no.
WALTZ: -- and the Assad regime and the Iranians are running amok.
INGRAHAM: Yes, here's -- here's my point, is that sometimes it's baby steps. I don't think anyone thought we were going to come out of this G-20 and they're going to be linking arms, saying, You're right, we're going to-- we're going to do regime change together--
WALTZ: Of course.
INGRAHAM: -- in Syria. That was never going to happen.
WALTZ: Yes, but--
INGRAHAM: We're going to have to use our leverage with Russia, the leverage that we have. Maybe it's -- (INAUDIBLE) natural gas is going to be part of it, maybe trade's going to be part of it. But we're going to have to use the leverage we have to deescalate a horrific situation in both North Korea and Syria. That is a heavy lift, given what we know Russia wants, which is different in some regards than what we want, although we'd both like to get rid of ISIS, which is a big deal.
WALTZ: That's fine, but again, you know, the Russians I think are going to feel like we -- make us feel like we got something over here, and meanwhile, they want us to forget about Crimea, forget about Ukraine, forget about a number of other things--
INGRAHAM: Mike, do you think--
WALTZ: -- they're doing that's not in our interests.
INGRAHAM: -- the American people want to go to war for Ukraine? Do you really -- are we going to send American troops into the Ukraine? I mean, I love the Ukraine. I've been there--
INGRAHAM: (INAUDIBLE) Soviets.
INGRAHAM: The idea that Donald Trump, who ran on non-interventionism, is going to -- on just to the issue of the Ukraine, get us involved in a huge military operation -- I just don't see it. I don't see the popular (ph) support for that.
WALTZ: Laura, nobody's saying go to war over Ukraine. Let me be clear. But at the same time, this line of thinking that is -- that you mentioned to the ambassador is incredibly dangerous. No one wanted to go to war over the Czech Republic, either, and the Sudetenland, when the Nazis started taking little pieces bit by bit. And we have this kind of notion in the West of, let's not confront. Let's not confront. It's not worth it. It's not worth. At some point, you have to draw a line, and at some point, it is in our interests--
INGRAHAM: Is Europe going to be part of drawing the line--
WALTZ: -- to stand up--
INGRAHAM: -- or is it -- is European going to have any involvement here?
WALTZ: Look -- look--
WALTZ: I am all for getting the Europeans--
INGRAHAM: Yes. They're not going to do anything--
WALTZ: -- to step up to the plate.
INGRAHAM: -- about the Ukraine.
WALTZ: I was in Afghanistan with them when they fell woefully short. And I'm all for getting them to pay for their own security. But with the United States in the lead. So you know, at some point--
INGRAHAM: Yes, I -- my only--
WALTZ: -- you've got to punch the bully in the nose.
INGRAHAM: I get what you're saying. Believe me. I understand it. My concern is it's not 19 -- it's not 1985. It's not 1995. We are $20 trillion in debt!
INGRAHAM: The more involved militarily we've gotten in the Middle East, the less powerful, less influential, less wealthy, you know -- you know, and more depleted our military has gotten.
WALTZ: But Laura--
INGRAHAM: So we got to get this economy going at home before we start, hey, we're going to stop (ph) the Ukraine, then we're going to -- I hope we get help from Europe. We might not get help. I think we're living in a different economic world, and we can -- we have to remember that. We can't just act like we're dealing with surpluses as far as the eye can see. The people have to pay for this.
WALTZ: Yes, I agree, but that's -- but that's taking a binary position, and the Obama administration took the same binary position. Either you're a warmonger and you want 200,000 troops on the ground, or let's just get out. And there's a lot of room in between.
You know, as a Green Beret, we were by, with and through local forces. There's proxies on the ground. There's cyber. There's covert means where we could affect the space in our national interest.
INGRAHAM: Well, I'm all for all that.
WALTZ: So this is not -- this not putting 200,000 boots on the ground for Crimea, but this is about using those other levers to take a stand against Putin's constant march towards, you know, challenging us as a superpower.
INGRAHAM: All right, I appreciate it, Mark. Thanks so much.
And in a disturbing video coming up, this leftist hero Muslim activist calls for jihad against the Trump administration. Brigitte Gabriel and an imam square off, up next.
And later -- New York City mayor Bill de Blasio's under fire for joining the anti-capitalist rabble-rousers who are causing chaos at the G-20 summit in Germany. Juan Williams, Matt Schlapp will be here later to weigh in.
That and much more straight ahead on "Hannity."
INGRAHAM: Welcome back to "Hannity." One of the left's favorite activists is now calling for jihad against President Trump. How nice. Linda Sarsour, the Islamophobia hustler who helped organize -- remember that anti-Trump women's march on Washington? -- is no under fire for comments she made at the annual Islamic Society of North America convention in Chicago. Watch this.
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LINDA SARSOUR, AMERICAN MUSLIM ACTIVIST: I hope that we, when we stand up to those who oppress our communities, that Allah accepts from us that as a form of jihad, that we are struggling against tyrants and rulers not only abroad in the Middle East or on the other side of the world, but here in these United States of America, where you have fascists and white supremacists and Islamophobes reigning in the White House. Our number one and top priority is to protect and defend our communities. It is not to assimilate and to please any other people in authority. Our top priority, even higher than all those priorities, is to please Allah and only Allah.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
INGRAHAM: Remember, this is the same Linda Sarsour that the Obama administration identified as a, quote, "champion of change." Isn't that sweet?
Joining us now is the founder of Act for America, Brigitte Gabriel, and from the Islamic House of Wisdom, Imam Mohammad Ali Elahi. It's great to see both of you.
Let's start with you, Imam Elahi. Wow, for her to say in that clip, Our -- you know, basically, Our goal is not to assimilate, we don't answer to, you know, any push for assimilation, we answer to, you know, the greater calling of Allah -- she uses the word "jihad" -- and I understand from Muslims that can mean striving and trying and struggling, but for most Americans to hear "jihad," it has a different connotation. She understands that, clearly. She's a sophisticated player.
Do you defend what she said about this president and really about this country in that sound bite?
IMAM MOHAMMAD ALI ELAHI, ISLAMIC HOUSE OF WISDOM: You know, "jihad" is an Arab word mentioned both in the Quran and (INAUDIBLE) Brigitte, she is from Lebanon. She knows Arabic, and she knows this word is mentioned also in the Bible. If you leave it for us, "jihad" means to be a better person, more honest, more truthful and more trustworthy.
But of course, if you leave this jihad for ISIS, leave the Quran for ISIS or Bible for KKK, they have different interpretation of it. I'm not--
ELAHI: I'm not representing for--
INGRAHAM: Pick (ph) me up--
ELAHI: -- you know, Linda, but I think she is expressing her frustrations.
INGRAHAM: Oh, yes (INAUDIBLE)
ELAHI: When we have a president that he is putting ban--
INGRAHAM: Yes, we're frustrated with (INAUDIBLE)
ELAHI: -- on six countries that they are victims of terrorism--
ELAHI: -- and rewarding the biggest founders of terrorism in the world--
INGRAHAM: Let me guess--
ELAHI: -- that brings frustrations, obviously.
INGRAHAM: Israel. OK. Imam, I -- here's what doesn't go over well with most Americans -- then I'm going to get to Brigitte -- Linda Sarsour getting up there and saying the fascist Islamophobe white supremacists in the Oval Office. That is so purposefully incendiary. And I would say if he weren't the president of the United States, he could sue for defamation because that's just garbage. That's meant to incite Muslims to whom she's speaking. It certainly isn't meant to build bridges. That is meant to incite, infuriate -- infuriate's fine, but incite is not good.
ELAHI: No, no, no, no. You cannot deny--
INGRAHAM: And she said "Our goal is not to assimilate"--
ELAHI: (INAUDIBLE) Islamophobia, right?
INGRAHAM: Her goal is sharia law, is it not? Her goal is not to assimilate, it's for sharia.
ELAHI: You know, when we have a president that one day, he comes and he says that Islam reminds us mercy and compassion, at the same time--
INGRAHAM: Does she sound merciful?
ELAHI: -- next day, he comes and he says that Islam hate us I mean, these contradiction, these Twitters of the president--
INGRAHAM: Did she sound merciful?
ELAHI: -- and (INAUDIBLE) the Islamophobia--
INGRAHAM: Imam! Imam! Imam!
INGRAHAM: This is not -- this is not -- this isn't -- we're not in a mosque here. This is not preaching, OK?
ELAHI: No, no.
INGRAHAM: This is a question.
ELAHI: I'm not preaching, I'm--
INGRAHAM: OK, I asked you a question.
ELAHI: -- telling the truth.
INGRAHAM: You just brought up--
ELAHI: I'm telling the truth.
INGRAHAM: -- the merciful point. Does she sound merciful to you?
ELAHI: You know, you should talk with Linda herself. I'm not represent of Linda. But the word of jihad that you mention --
ELAHI: -- I'm saying is up to interpretation.
INGRAHAM: Do you believe Muslims--
INGRAHAM: -- assimilate into American society, the rule of law, the Constitution, the Declaration?
ELAHI: It is about interaction. You know, it's about Muslim and non- Muslim interaction. And by the way, it's not only--
ELAHI: -- Linda's, you know, position. Lots of other Americans, they are disappointed of the administration. It's not about Muslim--
INGRAHAM: Disappointing? Oh, you know--
ELAHI: -- or Christian.
INGRAHAM: -- welcome to the club! Everybody's disappointed all the time. But we don't hear -- we don't hear immigrant groups come into the United States traditionally saying, we will not assimilate, not as -- not in the last 50 years. That has -- we come here to be part of America!
INGRAHAM: Let's get Brigitte in here. We got -- we went way long. Brigitte, look, what frustrates me is, like, I know Muslim Americans who hear this and they go crazy. They're, like, this -- She does not represent us. And they hate hearing her words because it is not representative of what they believe and the Quran that they believe. She doesn't want to assimilate. She wants to throw around these defamatory words. It's nastiness. It's hate. This is not positive stuff. And yet that's what she accuses President Trump of? I'm sorry.
BRIGITTE GABRIEL, ACT FOR AMERICA: It is. It's very radical. She was specifically inciting hatred and violence. If these words were coming out of any other person, you would have said, well, you know, that -- we overstepped the line.
But coming from Linda Sarsour, you have to understand her background. This is a lady that comes from a long line of terrorists. Her family members are as we speak sitting in Israeli jails for conviction of terrorism. When you look at her praising and her speech at ISNA, Imam Siraj Wahaj (ph), who was co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993, she called him her hero and her mentor. She called (ph) him how he talks to her, how she listens to his voice when she's lying in bed, thinking about issues that (INAUDIBLE) in this country.
And then she gives this speech at ISNA, which is the first organization--
ELAHI: Brigitte, Brigitte, you are--
GABRIEL: -- in the Muslim terrorist--
ELAHI: You are hate-monger number one in the United States!
GABRIEL: -- organization -- excuse me! You got your turn to speak. It is my turn. ISNA is the number one organization listed in the Muslim Brotherhood plan to destroy America! The Muslim Brotherhood is the oldest Islamic terrorist organization in the world!
And so when she -- when she speaks like that at ISNA, talking about urging Muslims not to assimilate, telling Muslims this is a jihad by basically rebelling against the administration, telling them that, Do not assimilate, you want to please only Allah and nothing but Allah, that is a call for violence to those who want to commit jihad against America--
ELAHI: You know, but--
GABRIEL: -- to the homegrown terrorists--
ELAHI: Can I say something?
GABRIEL: -- to the radicals who want to attack, to kill the president, as well as people like you--
GABRIEL: -- and me, Laura, who are law-abiding citizens!
INGRAHAM: Imam Elahi--
GABRIEL: The FBI and the Secret Service--
GABRIEL: -- should be monitoring her right now!
INGRAHAM: OK, hold on. One question. Imam Elahi, I know you take issue with probably a lot of what Brigitte just said. I do think there is common ground here between the Muslim community and conservatives, just on a whole bunch of issues. But I almost never see them working together. I'm just talking about whether it's on social issues or the family or religious liberty. It seems like the liberals are the ones who should be fighting with the Muslims on a lot of these issues.
But instead, we got women like Linda Sarsour, who I think drive a wedge between good Muslims who want to be part of the American society -- they do want to assimilate, and American citizens who are very welcoming and very generous, as long as you're not inciting violence, as long as you're patriotic and you -- you know, you want to be part of this great, crazy, representative democracy experiment. But she drives a wedge, and I don't think that's helpful.
ELAHI: You know, Laura, you know, first of all, the reason of the separation, people like this Brigitte that always talking about hate and hate-mongering and negative -- I mean, you know, Brigitte, you are coming from Lebanon--
INGRAHAM: One at a time. Let the Imam finish then, and then Brigitte can-
ELAHI: Let me finish. Let me finish. You're just coming from Lebanon, immigrated to this country almost the same years that immigrated to the United States, and you say that you believe in Bible, but always you are talking about hate and propaganda. What happened to love your neighbors or even love your enemies?
And this is really the reason. Yesterday, yes, Laura, we had an interfaith interaction at the Islamic House of Wisdom. We were talking about all the similarities, that we need to work together and build bridges because we as Muslims, we believe in Constitution. We believe in the Declaration of Independence that says all men are created equal--
INGRAHAM: OK, so why don't you denounce--
ELAHI: -- and talking about one nation--
INGRAHAM: -- her, then?
ELAHI: Like somebody like Brigitte isn't telling us that is all jokes (ph) and she doesn't believe. We believe all these values--
INGRAHAM: I actually -- I take you at your word--
INGRAHAM: Imam Elahi, hold on one second. I take you at your word, but my question is, when you hear someone like her, then why don't you denounce her? Why don't you just say, It's an outrage and I denounce what she says about not assimilating, about the white supremacy, about you know, the jihad against the -- why don't you denounce that? Why do you always make excuses for people like that?
ELAHI: You know, we need to talk. If it means to promote violence, we all, of course, you know, condemn that. But if that means to struggle against ignorance and arrogance and injustice and racism and poverty and war and--
INGRAHAM: OK, so you won't denounce her.
ELAHI: -- terrorism, we all are--
INGRAHAM: This is what I'm saying. You always make excuses.
ELAHI: (INAUDIBLE) we on the same page! We on the same page!
ELAHI: I mean, how can you put--
GABRIEL: All these executions (ph) -- all these executions (ph)--
ELAHI: -- them on those who are victims of terrorism, right, but then you go to Saudi Arabia and dance with the dictator and provide them with $110 billion of arms? That doesn't make sense!
INGRAHAM: Well, guess what? You know, if people -- (INAUDIBLE) if people don't like this country, if we're a white supremacist, evil, horrible, rotten country, I do not know why we have millions and millions of people who want to come here, including many people from Muslim countries. They seem to want to come here, want to settle all over the United States, and they come here and they say, we don't want to assimilate. We want to do jihad, da da da da. You know, I don't get it. Don't come here!
INGRAHAM: We're out of time. We're out of time. We could do this show for an hour. Brigitte, Imam Elahi, we really appreciate both of you. We'll have you back. Thank you very much.
And coming up -- radical leftist agitators wreaking havoc at the G-20 summit. New York mayor Bill de Blasio is defending his decision to join in on the protests! Isn't that great? Juan Williams, Matt Schlapp are here next to react.
And later, a shocking new Senate report details the unprecedented number of leaks coming from the State Department. Sekulow and Bob Massie (ph) join us later.
That and much more as "Hannity" continues.
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LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: And welcome back to "Hannity." Radical Euro leftists clash with police in Hamburg, Germany, as demonstrations turn violent yesterday ahead of the G-20 summit. Meanwhile New York City mayor Bill de Blasio is defending his decision to join those protests in Germany after coming under fire.
Joining me now with reaction is American Conservative Union chairman Matt Schlapp and co-host of "The Five" Juan Williams. Juan, we said, where's Juan. Why is he not here with us? And I said he doesn't want to be on set with us. He's in beautiful big apple New York.
All right, Juan, I've got to start with you because this is a hard one to defend, I think. We had had this horrific shooting of a wonderful, beautiful female police officer, single mom with three kids, broke my heart, shot in the back of the head, another fatal shooting of a police officer. The community in the Bronx coming together. Bill de Blasio I believe skipped out at least one of these events to honor this police officer, headed over to Europe. What about that decision?
JUAN WILLIAMS, SENIOR EDITOR, "THE HILL": I think he said he's going to the funeral, so that's what his statement is.
To my mind what's interesting here is that de Blasio went. I was surprised that he was going to Germany. He missed not only the whole upset in New York over the shooting of the officer but also the swearing in of some officers here, a new class of recruits. So I was just surprised that the reason he went was to join the protests. He can be anti-Trump and all. I understand that. That a major part ---
INGRAHAM: Doesn't he have job? Lots of these protestors don't have jobs, Juan.
WILLIAMS: He's a politician. That's what he is.
INGRAHAM: I'm just glad they had the water cannons out because by the looks of some of these people, they haven't showered in months. This is like the first time they've actually -- get a little soap on them as well.
MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: Don't make the mistake that this isn't a job.
INGRAHAM: This is. Some of them are paid protestors.
SCHLAPP: Some people are getting some payment for doing this.
INGRAHAM: So Schlapp, I see this, I say of course de Blasio is going over there. He believes in I.D. cards and city benefits are for people who are there illegally. It's a sanctuary city. So much of Europe is now a sanctuary continent.
SCHLAPP: It's really a recruiting trip. He wants everyone to come back.
INGRAHAM: He's probably handing out I.D. cards there. Here, you want food stamps, you want SNAP benefits, we got it all covered.
SCHLAPP: It's hash-tag resistance. It's everything you can do to connect yourself with the radical fringe. And I think politically it's a huge mistake for these Democrats because in the end we're a pretty practical country. We want to solve problems.
INGRAHAM: People don't like this. They don't like this.
SCHLAPP: People want to give the president a chance. On a foreign stage to be there protesting against your president, if nothing else at the least it's awfully tacky.
INGRAHAM: Imagine, Juan, if like Rudy Giuliani when he was major, he decided to go off at maybe one of the IMF protests because back then they had the IMF protests. They went on in Toronto when Obama was president. It's nothing new. It's been going on for years and years. But let's say Rudy decides to go over there, not that he would, and he starts to speak at some event critical of some liberal -- he would be trashed by the liberals, saying how could he go over there?
WILLIAMS: Laura, Laura, Laura, you can't trick me. I think Republicans like Giuliani would never be protesting against the big business, the industrialists, the anti-capitalists.
INGRAHAM: They all voted for Hillary. All those people voted for Hillary, all those big business people.
WILLIAMS: I don't think so. I think Goldman Sachs is pretty well represented in the Trump administration.
INGRAHAM: They gave her 500 g's in speeches. Didn't they give her all that money?
WILLIAMS: But I do think what's interesting to me is a lot of Trump people I think would identify with the anti-globalists, anti-free trade message coming from these protesters.
SCHLAPP: I think Juan has a good point.
INGRAHAM: With those stinky hats, those stinky knit caps, and the --
SCHLAPP: There's a lot of hypocrisy here. If there is any Republican or any president of the United States who is actually anti-globalist, it's Donald Trump. Look at the position he's taken on trade. And so actually I think this shows you that --
INGRAHAM: They are so dumb, they don't even understand. They are so dumb, they don't even understand. You're not going to get closer to the anti- globalization agenda than you are with Trump. Who else is going to be president of the United States is going to call into question these big trade deals? He killed the TPP. T-TIP is gone.
SCHLAPP: That's right.
INGRAHAM: What are they -- really, they're not just there for Trump. They're there for the free beer. You got the pot they handed out. That's the ganja smell. It's like a festival. This is a close to a varsity sports as any of these kids will ever have.
WILLIAMS: Well, the part that I don't like is the violence. We as Americans, we're all into peaceful protest, assembly, free speech. But the violence --
INGRAHAM: They did it in Seattle. They did it in Berkeley. This is happening in our country. We're allowing this junk to happen here.
SCHLAPP: We're not so into the peaceful all the time.
INGRAHAM: No. But the reporters are wearing those bicycle helmets. Have your seen those bike helmets they're wearing. They didn't have to wear those at the Tea Party rallies, Juan, because those things were peaceful. You got the Betsy Ross people. They're not throwing --
SCHLAPP: It's like a Mel Brooks movie to me.
INGRAHAM: It was a little much.
WILLIAMS: But I'm going to say I think Matt and I and you agree this anti- globalist sentiment, which is a Trump sentiment, is really what they supposedly represent. And I don't get it. They must have missed the message.
INGRAHAM: They represent free. They want everything free. Free, free, free, there's no end to the free money. All right, everybody, happy Friday. Good to see both of you.
And coming up, an explosive new Senate report finds that the Trump administration is facing an unprecedented wave of, wait for it, deep state leaks. Jay Sekulow, Bob Massi here next with reaction.
Later, the media is going nuts over comment President Trump is making overseas but they ignored all the times President Obama did the exact same thing. Charlie Hurt will weigh in on that stunning hypocrisy. Stay with us as "Hannity" continues.
INGRAHAM: Welcome back to "Hannity." President Trump has been very vocal about the unprecedented number of government leaks since taking office. And yesterday the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee released an explosive report that found that the Trump administration suffered from national security leaks at the rate of one per day between January 20th and May 25th, which is seven times higher than the previous two administrations.
Joining me now is the chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice, he's also an attorney for President Trump, Jay Sekulow, and Fox News legal analyst and host of "The Property Man" Bob Massi. Good to see you gentlemen. Let's start with you, Jay. When I first heard that, I said it's seven times more than the previous two presidents. I said no way, that's totally wrong. It has to be more than that. That's not very many. Given what we've seen every day in the New York Times," "The Washington Post," ABC, leak-o-rama. Yet as far as I can tell, Jay, we have one 20- something eight contractor down south who has been arrested.
JAY SEKULOW, AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE: Yes, that's right. And look, the leaks that are in this report are only representative of what they call significant national security leaks.
But let me read you a headlines from "Politico," because this one makes -- should make everybody that's watching right now realize what we're dealing with. Trump leaks crackdown sends chill through national security world, subtitled, agency officials says measure have been taken to isolate leakers creating a culture of fear. So by isolating leakers, the administration is creating a culture of fear. How about isolating the leakers and prosecute them. So I think what needs to happen now is the Department of Justice needs within its own unit a special that does nothing but go after these leakers, because Laura, you're right, that report is just the tip of the iceberg on those leaks, although significant --
INGRAHAM: I've got to ask Bob about this. Bob Massi, Jeff Sessions recused himself, which I think was a huge mistake, from this Russia investigation. He did not need to do that. He panicked, and that was a big, big mistake. So he recuses himself, but now is he then unable, or is he boxed-out of appointing what Jay I think properly said is a special division to investigate the leaks? I don't think so, right, because the leaks affect everything.
BOB MASSI, HOST, "THE PROPERTY MAN": No. No. The leaks affect everything. And I think he could do as he wants to do. No matter what he does, we know as Jay will tell you, you know, Laura, better than anybody is the fact that no matter what he does, yea or nay, it's going to be criticized. The level of the leaks, as you say, quantifiable, God only knows how many, but it also goes to the idea that the issue of concern of national security for our country, that they will go to whatever level they want to go to get back at this man as president. They don't care about our country the way they should, and that's the commentary. I would like to see as Jay has indicated something to be done, because somebody has to teach these people a lesson.
INGRAHAM: This is just, I mean, it's going to keep happening. People are emboldened because they know they can -- we say Comey did this. Comey gives a memo that he created, I assume on government time, gives it to a friend he knew was going to go to the New York Times, and boom, he gets a special counsel.
SEKULOW: Look, he had a conversation with the president of the United States that puts in a memo. So that's the president of the United States he's in a conversation with, he puts the memo together on his government computer, put it in his government desk, and leaks it out. But here's the thing with him, here's what we know about James Comey, the leaker in chief-- we know for a fact that he leaked information that he took as a government employee and then leaked it when he was terminated. If that was an FBI agent that did that, they'd be in jail.
INGRAHAM: Thank you so much. And coming up, the media is losing it over things that President Trump has said overseas, Bob just said, but didn't seem to care when President Obama did the exact same thing. Charlie Hurt up next with reaction, that and much more as "Hannity" continues.
INGRAHAM: Welcome back to "Hannity." The liberal media went crazy when President Trump bashed fake news and criticized President Obama over Russian election interference at a press conference yesterday in Poland. It turns out that members of the media have very short memories. Let's remind them that back in November, President Obama slammed fake news while in Peru. Watch this.
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OBAMA: The concern I have has less to do with any particular misinformation or propaganda that's being put out by any particular party, and a greater concern about the general misinformation from all kinds of sources, domestic, foreign, on social media that make it very difficult for voters to figure out what's true and what's not.
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INGRAHAM: And by the way, how many times did he slam Fox News, talk radio, cable TV, which means Fox News. And that's not all. Last May President Obama of course took shots at then candidate Donald Trump while overseas. Let's listen.
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OBAMA: I think it's fair to say that they are surprised by the Republican nominee. They are not sure how seriously to take some of his pronouncements. But they're rattled by him, and for good reason.
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INGRAHAM: They take him pretty seriously now, President Obama. Joining us now with for reaction, FOX News contributor Charlie Hurt. Charlie, I love going back to those old sound bites on a Friday night. This is fun. This is just a walk down memory lane. What's your take on this?
CHARLES HURT, POLITICAL COLUMNIST, WASHINGTON TIMES: Can you believe that Barack Obama was once regarded as some great orator? Just listening to him gasp on and on, it's just horrible.
INGRAHAM: I was like cut that sound bit to five seconds. It's so boring. But go ahead. The great master communicator.
HURT: Exactly, of course. In this situation from the other day where Donald Trump was asked a direct question. If he hadn't answered the question directly, they would have accused him of stonewalling. He can't win for losing with these people. They're going to attack him no matter what. And it's absolutely absurd. And don't forget, Laura, remember in 2008 when Obama was running the firs time, he had no credentials for anything.
HURT: He especially didn't have any credentials overseas. He took his entire campaign overseas.
INGRAHAM: He won the Nobel Prize for that.
HURT: That's right, he sure did. This is before he kicked me off of his campaign plane. So I went with him. We went to Jordan, Israel, we went to Germany.
INGRAHAM: The apology tour.
HURT: Exactly. That's where he started the apology tour. So this notion that politics still ends at the shores of our country, it's so over.
INGRAHAM: But what they were saying on CNN and MSNBC all day long was stuff like this. They would say, well, which is the real Trump, who was the real Trump? Is it the speech Trump, the prepared text Trump, or is it the off the cuff Trump. As if no president has ever given a prepared text speech in a foreign country and then stumbled a little bit when speaking off-the-cuff. We just heard that Barack Obama -- ah, if you take out the ahs and the pauses he says like five words.
HURT: It would be a very short speech.
Yes, but I get it that tactically maybe he shouldn't have done the press conference or maybe he should have been more disciplined. Whatever. The reason people like him so much, the reasons his supporters like him so much, is because he is a dynamic guy. I thought was the finest speech I've ever heard.
INGRAHAM: Tour de force.
HURT: It was spectacular. Yes, absolutely. And honestly, the press conference, I thought it was terrific. I love all his answers. He got the message across that he wanted to get across. And he engaged all the right people, and that always makes me very happy.
INGRAHAM: Charlie, great to see you as always.
We're going to have more "Hannity" after this break. Stay with us.
INGRAHAM: Welcome back to "Hannity." Sadly, that's all the time we have left tonight. But check out the new piece on Lifezette, my great website, on President Trump's Russian reset. You're going to want to read it. And follow me on Twitter over the weekend @IngrahamAngle, and reserve your copy of my new book. There it is, my first big book, by the way, in about seven years, I've been busy, "Billionaire at the Barricades." You're going to love it. It's a BarnesandNoble.com and Amazon.com, so order now.
And remember, just because July 4th is past does not mean that you have to put your flag in the closet. Fly it this weekend, too. It's a beautiful, beautiful symbol of our freedom. Sean will be back on Monday. We've missed him. But it's been fun here. We'll see you next week on "Hannity" when I'm a guest. Have a great, peaceful, and safe weekend.
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