Is the left using the New Zealand tragedy to shut down speech they don't like?
{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}This is a rush transcript from "The Ingraham Angle," March 15, 2019. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
LAURA INGRAHAM, HOST: I'm Laura Ingraham and this is “The Ingraham Angle” live from Washington tonight. We have a jam packed show, the Left rushes in to blame the acts of a madman, thousands of miles away on you guessed it, Donald Trump.
Tucker Carlson will be here later in the hour on how this is really about in the end, the suppression of free speech. And a follow up to our exclusive last night, leftist politicians in California refused to give comment after we exposed that they might have been responsible for an alleged illegal killer roaming the streets.
{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}Plus two Friday favorites, the worst in media this week and Raymond Arroyo was here for Friday Follies, Beto versus Trump, the Body Language Edition. But we begin tonight with a horrible tragic tragedy in New Zealand and a sad yet unsurprising rush to assign blame.
Now as you no doubt know by now, at least 49 Muslims were gunned down during Friday prayer in an evil act carried out by a lunatic whose name and face will not be discussed on this show. We're not going to show his face, we're not going to use his name because that's exactly what these people want.
Earlier today, President Trump spoke about this heinous act on Twitter and in the Oval Office.
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DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT: These sacred places of worship were turned into scenes of evil killing. You've all been seeing what's going on it's a horrible-horrible thing. I told the Prime Minister that the United States is with them all the way. 100%. Whatever they need, we will be there.
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{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}INGRAHAM: But whatever he said, it was never going to be enough for some.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If he labels it a terror attack or he you know, condemns it, will it ring hollow or will it make a difference?
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INGRAHAM: And worse, the temptation by some to not only dismiss the President's words of support but to attempt to tie him directly to this evil, that was truly sickening.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. President, are you listening? Do you have any idea that your words truly matter?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Other tough questions, whether the President is emboldening Right wing extremism with his immigration rhetoric.
{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He referred to the southern border as an invasion, the precise language used by the shooter in this case.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there someone out there tonight who's going to hear Trump's rhetoric and act on it?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a President who has given plenty of rhetorical ammunition. I think to terrorists like this.
{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Trump, your words matter, your policies matter. We hold you responsible for this growing anti-Muslim sentiment.
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INGRAHAM: Here to respond now is Attorney and RNC Committeewoman Harmeet Dhillon who just wrote a phenomenal piece on foxnews.com about all of this. Harmeet, this whole day has exposed some truly sick opinions on this issue, a horrific act of evil in New Zealand, 49 dead.
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HARMEET DHILLON, RNC NATIONAL COMMITTEEWOMAN For CA: Absolutely Laura, it's become a Pavlovian response in the media on the Left and you know, the mainstream media to blame the President for anything. I almost expected to Dana Bash hurting her ear that, what's that? Are aliens attacking the United States or attacking the earth? Then she would say, yes, this is related to Trump's foreign policy.
So I mean they have they have a knee jerk reaction to that but that's corrosive and their words matter Laura. We hear them blaming the President for his words, it's this reflexive blame and not looking at what the real problem is that I think is at the heart of what's going on here.
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And so they took the bait and they are doing exactly what the terrorists wanted.
INGRAHAM: And Kirsten Powers over at CNN was especially - especially in my view, off the mark and I'll leave it at that. Since it's a Friday during last but let's watch.
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KIRSTEN POWERS, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: I mean he does understand what he's doing. He does understand when he says these things that these people are energized. It is he chooses to not stop, he chooses to not condemn them, he chooses to not go out of his way to identify this threat in this country which is a large threat, which is a white nationalism.
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{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}INGRAHAM: So Donald Trump is actually endeavoring to inspire white nationalists, knows he's doing it and keeps doing it, Harmeet, that's the level of media discernment and careful thought and thinking, tonight.
DHILLON: It's - it's demagoguery, there's no other word for it. I mean Laura, in my piece I pointed out that two major attacks happened on U.S. soil against people of faith in Charleston against Christians and in Wisconsin against the Sikh community while President Obama was a President.
Nobody blamed Obama for that and they shouldn't, it's not the President's fault if we have haters, if we have disintegration of fellowship in our society and we have a lot of trouble, people doing these types of things. We need to confront the root causes and not just look at convenient targets.
{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}So I think they're really doing a big disservice to the President obviously, the President's supporters but you know, in the face of this grieving when we should be trying to come together as human beings of all people of faith and all people in this world to create this division is despicable.
It is not, I'm sure what some of them thought they went into journalism for but that's exactly what they are doing.
INGRAHAM: That's what they are and you know, I was remembering back as it were coming up to Palm Sunday in a few weeks and it was in April, April 9 2017 where 45 Coptic Christians were attacked, a bomb in Saint Mark's Cathedral which is the main Coptic church in Egypt.
{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}It was horrific, women, children exploded, you know, Catholic priest had been murdered during mass in Iraq. Christians have been killed and brutalized across the globe and mostly of course by Islamists, radical Muslims who take it upon themselves to kill any infidel, whether they're Muslim, Christian, Jews or whoever.
But it was a horrific act, it didn't result in a day long period of soul searching and recriminations on U.S. soil and of course we've had those types of attacks against Christians in the Middle East for two decades now plus it's it doesn't - you don't have the lower third blaming a political party or a political figure for, that's the difference. Harmeet, final thought.
DHILLON: Yes, I mean this is Trump Derangement Syndrome, you know, while it is, it is - it is dominant, we roll our eyes at it most days. On a day when so many people lost their lives and we have these types of cultural divisions and the terrorist wanted this to see our American journalists doing exactly what he wanted.
{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}It's really disappointing and I hope some of the moved past her initial hysteria and their initial reactions and try to look at what happened here and bring us all closer together and not look for convenient scapegoats.
INGRAHAM: No and everyone should read Harmeet's piece. I tweeted it out so just follow me on Twitter @IngrahamAngle, you can follow Harmeet Dhillon on Twitter and read it as well but it's on foxnews.com.
It's really important to read about what happened and what we should learn from this going forward, especially the high tech companies and their role in keeping this hatred out there as well. Harmeet, thank you so much and we are going to have more on this issue. Limiting speech in the face of tragedy, later on the hour, Tucker Carlson staying up late for us tonight.
{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}And now on to another tragedy right here in America. Now last night we brought you exclusive evidence that a California county not only ignored an ICE detainer request that left Carlos Eduardo Arevalo Carranza, let him go free but that they lied about it and then blamed ICE, Immigration Customs Enforcement.
As a result, a 59-year old woman is now dead, brutally murdered in her own home, she lived alone and the response from the county officials. Well, silence. Now we're now going to tick through a few names, central to this outrage. Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren whose district this happened in is refusing to come on this show or even give us a written comment.
Santa Clara county council, James Williams said this was all ICE's fault and that they should have gotten a warrant against Carranza. Now he's not speaking to THE INGRAHAM ANGLE tonight, however can't get them on the line and Santa Clara county supervisor Dave Cortese said that in general, ICE doesn't show up to take custody in a timely manner to avoid release into the community."
{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}He also won't talk to us. Santa Clara city councilwoman Pam Foley, whose district includes the neighborhood where Larson was killed had nothing to add beyond being, "deeply saddened by Larson's death. She declined to appear on the show tonight and finally Maricela Gutierrez, Executive director of the Services Immigrant Rights Network in California.
She says ICE cooperation, "would have a chilling effect on illegals coming forward to report crimes. What? She likewise refused to appear tonight. Now, here now to react Claude Arnold, former special agent in charge of ICE in Los Angeles, Joe Alioto Veronese, he's a Democrat running for DA in San Francisco and Mark Morgan, former Obama border patrol chief.
Mark, this complete lack of interest or the concern of an American citizen, brutally slain, stabbed apparently multiple times, it was a grisly - grisly scene in her home. What do those comments tell you tonight?
{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}MARK MORGAN, FMR BORDER PATROL CHIEF UNDER OBAMA : It's unbelievable. I mean, Laura, I watched your show the other night and I literally stood up and was clapping in short because where's the outrage?
Where is the country's outrage at this? And what is so outrageous is this could have been prevented. This woman is dead and it could have been prevented and why? Because of laws in sanctuary cities, that's exactly.
They want to protect people who are here illegally that are otherwise doing okay but the same time, this law is protecting an animal like this and he is, this individual who did this, he's an animal and the sanctuary cities protect somebody like this.
{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}INGRAHAM: He cut her up to pieces.
MORGAN: Horrible.
INGRAHAM: And Claude, the idea that these county officials, these Santa Clara county officials are silent, will not show their faces on TV, they rush to the sanctuary city rallies though and they blamed ICE.
{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}Now speak to their criticism, that ICE doesn't show up in a timely manner and could have issued a warrant rather than just placing a detainer and coming when they could get there.
CLAUDE ARNOLD, FMR SPEC AGENT-IN-CHARGE for ICE, LA: Well, Laura, they are just obfuscating the issue, that's what they're doing. The California sanctuary law is perverse, it's crazy that they've passed a law that requires a law enforcement who are sworn to serve and protect and uphold not only the laws of the state of California, but federal law and the constitution of the U.S., laws that force them to let public safety threats let loose in the community.
And this is what's going to happen, people are going to die and it has happened and it will continue to happen, it's crazy.
{{#rendered}} {{/rendered}}INGRAHAM: Joe, I want to go to you here because Gavin Newsom is on another network tonight, the Governor of California and was talking about you know, the issue of immigration and so forth and said this.
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GOV. GAVIN NEWSOM, D-CALIF.: The crisis that is not just manufactured in the context of the larger issue but is substantively manufactured with intentionality by the Trump administration that is metering those crossings, doing nothing to help support these people and actually creating the conditions that they're condemning.
This is a farce, it's political theater and the fact is California's not going to play part of that.
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INGRAHAM: Okay, Joe, so it's manufactured that by the end of this year, we'll have about 800,000 people who've crossed our border in between ports of entry, gaming the system, jumping ahead in line of other people who are waiting patiently to apply legally, claiming asylum, being released into the system, maybe an ankle bracelet slapped on but most of them won't show up. That's a manufactured crisis? Can you explain that comment from your governor?
Well, yes and I actually agree with Gavin on this one it. This is the President using this particular issue for political theater and it's nothing.
INGRAHAM: Hold on Joe, what is he using? Are you denying that that number of people are crossing the border? Are you denying that or is that just cool with you? They are all coming to your house?
JOE ALIOTO VERONESE, D-FORMER CA STATE SENATE CANDIDATE: No, no, no, I'm not denying numbers, absolutely not but what I'm denying is the fact that you know, when the President puts up videos of caravans and all of this and you know people -
INGRAHAM: Do they not exist?
VERONESE: Well, look, this has been an issue for years, this is not a new issue.
INGRAHAM: No, no, no.
VERONESE: I think that's what the governor is saying. He's trying to use this particular issue to build this wall, to get some more attention at the border. Look, we have problems at the border but the bigger problem here Laura is the fact that we got these broken laws whether it's immigration law, whether it's gun law, whether it's a sanctuary city law and the third rail issues because the Republicans and the Democrats, we're not you know - we shouldn't be let off the hook here.
We will not address the problems with these laws because it shows some sort of weakness and in the end, the person that really suffers is the victims.
INGRAHAM: A woman suffered, she was cut up like a cold cut.
VERONESE: That's exactly what.
INGRAHAM: She cut up, left for dead, lived alone and her last moments of life were in terror, that's what happened to her and we can't get an official from Santa Clara county to come on the show and explain what the hell happened here, okay?
So I got to say like I hear all the do-gooder, oh, it's not a crisis, Donald Trump. We had 76,000 people crossing our border. $82,000 a year, it cost the American taxpayer to take care of them for children, their healthcare, their education, their infrastructure, that in and of itself and Mark, most people listening they don't make $82,000 a year.
That's what it costs.
MORGAN: It's definitely a problem.
INGRAHAM: It's a crisis beyond crisis.
VERONESE: It's a problem Laura, but you've got the Senate and the Congress and the President that could get together that and fix the immigration issue.
INGRAHAM: Well, that's not fixing, we have border.
VERONESE: It's their problem, we need to fix it.
INGRAHAM: We have borders, don't cross the border illegally but we got to fix it by partly building that wall.
MORGAN: It's not a problem, it's a national emergency and you can't just look at one thing so what I will agree with him is, the asylum laws do need to be fixed, except you don't fix the stuff at the border and only focus on the laws, you need to do it all.
I mean think about just what happened this week as well. Two, 6-year old and a 9-year old was dropped over a physical barrier like a piece of trash.
INGRAHAM: And left.
MORGAN: Yes, and left and the cartels did it on purpose so that border patrol will be handling and saving the kids and then ten people went through and guess what, I would say that those 10, not all of them are Mr. Rogers. You're probably looking possibly in there someone else that's going to kill the next American citizen.
INGRAHAM: Oh, well, listen to this. Claude, I had to get you on this because to Mark's point and maybe even to Joe's point, The New York Times, Nick Confessore who is this front page reporter, God, really good writer. This is what he said this is all about. Just the white people, I guess.
NICK CONFESSORE, MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR: They're acutely aware of the fact that America is not going to me be a majority white country coming down the road. They're acutely aware of it, they're sensitive to it, that's what this is all about.
His base is people who foresee the day in which they are not the dominant group of people in America and they're freaked out about it.
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INGRAHAM: That is a New York Times, he's still working for the Times, I don't even remember if he's still working for the Times but that's it, that's the extent of the thought, Claude, that goes into this, it's all about a bunch of white people who it doesn't matter legal, illegal immigrants, they just want the country to be white.
To me that's the kind of poisonous rhetoric that is really harmful to our country today. Has nothing to do with that, maybe a few freaks think that way but the majority of Americans love all people, they want people to come in legally, legally and love our country like we do, period.
ARNOLD: It's absolutely ridiculous, the bottom line is that we have people coming to this country from Latin America because they're poor countries and they're coming here to work and to make money but if for some reason, God forbid, Canada became a very poor country and there were white Canadian streaming across the northern border illegally, we would treat it, exactly the same because those are our laws, right?
So it's just a ridiculous argument.
INGRAHAM: But I think we're going back to Joe, I think there are a lot of people on the left, a lot of activists on the left who just think the laws are racist. I mean, we really haven't gotten - we've gotten to the truth in a very circuitous way here. The laws themselves are racist because America is really living on stolen land, stolen from the Indians, stolen from the Mexicans, pillaged, obviously the original sin of slavery, that we have kind of a - I'm summarizing, you read this in all the universities.
We have - we have a corrupt founding so the whole thing has to be thrown out, that is the way a lot of Leftists think and that's what they're all about, tonight - today.
VERONESE: The criminal justice system is definitely has some institutional racism and there's no question about it. I mean, we see it - we see it in our bail system, we see it in our conviction rates, we see it - we even see it on death row which is why our governor here is refusing to enforce the death penalty now.
But there is institutional racism in our system, we need to route that out but you're absolutely right. I mean, the comment that that reporter made is a pretty ignorant comment. We all - there especially here in California, that ship is passed. We all come from at least, myself and a lot of people here in California, we're all immigrants.
At the end of the day, we're all immigrants that are here and so -
INGRAHAM: Yes, exactly.
VERONESE: It's a pretty ignorant comment.
INGRAHAM: All right, I think we - do we have the time? Do we have one more - one more time for one more thing? Yes? What was the thing? Bill Barr, oh, we have to play Bill Barr, that's right, sorry. So Attorney General, we haven't heard much from him. He spoke out tonight guys for today, late today about the national emergency. Important, watch.
BILL BARR, ATTORNEY GENERAL: Mr. President, your declaration of an emergency on the southern border was clearly authorized under the law and consistent with past President.
The humanitarian and security crisis we have on the border right now is exactly the kind of emergency that Presidents are permitted to address under the national emergency Act.
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INGRAHAM: Mark, the twelve Republicans who rebuked the President, not voting for the national emergency, words for them tonight.
MORGAN: It's absurd. You just heard Attorney Generally lay it out, you heard a law enforcement officers there, hundreds of year's experience laying out that it's a national emergency.
Border patrol, CBP again countless times laying out it's a national emergency, thank goodness that we have a President of United States who vetoed this. He's doing the right thing for the Americans.
INGRAHAM: Absolutely, veto, I celebrate it. All right, guys, thank you so much tonight and coming up, is the Left using the terror attack in New Zealand to silence speech? Tucker Carlson will be here to talk about that issue plus the worst media offenders of the week, “Ingraham Angle” has got its eyes on you, media people.
The tape you don't want to miss, next.
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INGRAHAM: All right, it's easy to become now about media bias these days so THE INGRAHAM ANGLE is keeping track of the worst offenders each week. Now joining me now, Jeffrey Lord, former CNN contributor and author of the forthcoming book, ‘Swamp wars,' along with Howie Kurtz, Fox news media analyst and host of the fabulous show, ‘Media Buzz'.
All right, panel, let's begin with Chris Cuomo trying to corner Kellyanne Conway over a recent interview by the President.
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CHRIS CUOMO, CNN HOST: Look, the President should have said -
KELLYANNE CONWAY, COUNCIL TO THE PRESIDENT: You always want to interrupt me -
CUOMO: - that the military and bikers and cops may get violent in his defense. I don't -
CONWAY: He didn't say that.
CUOMO: He said exactly that.
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INGRAHAM: Well, it wasn't quite right was it, Chris? Well, here's actually what Trump said. He said, "I can tell you, I have the support of the police, the support of the military, support of the Bikers for Trump. I have the tough people but they don't play it tough until they go to a certain point and then it would be very, very bad."
Jeff, why did the media try so hard to ascribe the most violent intentions of the President who is talking obviously kind of like a New Yorker there, what's going on?
JEFFREY LORD, CONTRIBUTOR, THE AMERICAN SPECTATOR: There's even more to this, Laura. The President was talking with Bright part about the the quest.
What's going on. There's even more to this is no and Laura the President was talking with Breitbart about the question, it had to do with the ‘viciousness' of the Left and the President began with the riff on his executive order on free speech on college campuses.
And I know you will recall this, the President clearly had on his mind. He had met Hayden Williams, the young man who was on the Berkeley campus, who was doing nothing but handing out literature or whatever and got punched in the face, unprovoked. You had him on your show. I met him.
That was clearly on the President's mind. Then he says what Chris Cuomo attributes to and there's one other thing. There's one other thing here about my old colleague there, Chris. When he was talking about Antifa quite a while ago. He said people who show up to fight bigots are not to be judged the same as the bigots and that punches are not equal morally.
INGRAHAM: Oh yes, all right, well, Howie, look, this is - this is a story that led all day long on all the networks, that aspect the tough one.
HOWARD KURTZ, HOST, MEDIA BUZZ: Well, the President did delete tweet of with the hours because in light of the -
INGRAHAM: Yes, well, the language - it wasn't - the context was, as Jeffrey just -
KURTZ: And he didn't say exactly that as Chris Cuomo said and Chris is a lawyer, he knows how to parse words.
INGRAHAM: Well, up next, some more disgusting reaction to New Zealand mass shooting. We played her earlier but she said something else outrageous tonight, this is a little over saturation, isn't it? But CNN's Kirsten Powers.
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POWERS: I think you can blame Donald Trump for really trafficking and bigotry and you know, Islamophobia, wanting to ban all Muslims as he said during the campaign so there are - they have maybe some things in common in terms of how they think about people.
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INGRAHAM: Howie.
KURTZ: You know when there's a terrible tragedy and even as the bodies are being drawn out you know, the finger pointers want to jump on and score political points and so even though this is happening on the other side of the world and has nothing whatsoever to do with President Trump, we could debate his rhetoric for hours, if you want but the idea that all - Trump did this and Trump inspired this and Trump set the tone for some crazed, madman in New Zealand, really makes me angry.
INGRAHAM: Well, Jeff, did Republicans do this to the Bernie Sanders supporter who shot up the baseball.
LORD: Exactly.
INGRAHAM: Did we sit around saying, well, Obama's people say this and then Pelosi said - it was a freak, it was an active evil and he wanted to kill a lot of people, thank God he didn't, but he badly injured Scalise, he happened to be a Bernie Sanders supporter and had a lot of wacky theories.
LORD: That's exactly right. Now, Laura, I was just about to say this is it if you recall the shooter in the Scalise shooting was a big fan of MSNBC and one of their anchors over there. Now when we hear the kind of arguments that we just made, what they're saying in essence is that MSNBC was responsible for the shooting of Steve Scalise, that is just crazy.
Bernie Sanders had nothing to do with it. You have to give people responsibility for their acts and when you don't do it, what you're doing affectively is encouraging it more of it and it's got to stop.
INGRAHAM: No, no, no. I mean and they want - we're going to get into this with Tucker but they want to take certain words and descriptions and even ideologies off the table like being pro sovereignty, they want that all gone. We'll get into that with Tucker.
All right, the college admissions scandal, this is another one, the biggest story of the week I think but before this obviously horrible active of evil in New Zealand but some folks may have wanted to sit out, commenting on it, watch.
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DON LEMON, CNN HOST: A lot of people will point out and you know what they have every right to do so that Donald Trump himself is a beneficiary of a system that's rigged in favor of the elite.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How much sympathy would you have for these parents who are embroiled in this alleged cheating scandal.
SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN, D-MASS: Zero.
INGRAHAM: Okay, Lemon links it to Trump. Warren has no sense of self- awareness here on fraud.
KURTZ: This just drives me nuts, the media have to make every story somehow about Trump. A meteor hits the earth, Trump should have shot it down, you know and Don Lemon who's good friends with Jussie Smollett who blamed Trump for a non-existing attack that he faked ought to know better than to play that particular card.
Really, he should blame Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman, the two actresses involved not dragging the President.
INGRAHAM: All right, Jeff, we have ten seconds.
LORD: Yes, Elizabeth Warren and the parents of these kids both know how to scam colleges quite clearly.
INGRAHAM: Oh, still ahead, thanks guys, is the Left using tragedy to squelch speech? Tucker Carlson is here tonight, he has an answer to that question. Plus decoding Beto's body language. Now Raymond Arroyo is going to be here with us. And it's going to be Trump versus Beto because Trump likes to you know, too.
But what do these different hand motion styles tell us about both people? It's very interesting, and Arroyo will be with us next, Friday Follies.
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INGRAHAM: It's Friday, and that means it's time for Friday Follies.
Of course, Beto's bizarre gestures, what do they mean? And is it appropriate for kids to strike from school over climate change? Joining us now with answers, Raymond Arroyo, Fox News contributor, "New York Times" bestselling author of the "Will Wilder" series, including the new "Amulet of Power." All right, Raymond, what on earth, it's like Betamax. It's coming back.
RAYMOND ARROYO, CONTRIBUTOR: Beto-max.
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INGRAHAM: Yes, exactly. It's coming back.
ARROYO: Well, he's clearly trying to signal something here, Laura. I did a lot of study of this over the last 24 hours, and I was trained in body language and gestures as an actor. So I'm not coming out of leftfield with this. Beto's gestures actually tell us a lot about him as a person. Now, it should be said, people use gestures when dealing with special concepts like direction.
INGRAHAM: You do that.
ARROYO: Or when dealing with abstractions. But Beto O'Rourke's gestures tell us something more. Watch.
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BETO O'ROURKE, D-PRESIDENT CANDIDATE: I just got a call from my wife Amy, who is back in El Paso, Texas, where she is raising, sometimes with my help, Ulysses, who is 12-year-old, Molly, whose 10, and their little brother Henry, who is eight-years-old. And she's getting them ready, feeding them, and then taking them to school. I even though this is the first day, miss them terribly. But I'll tell you this, it's those kids and it's your kids and it's your grandkids and the generations that follow that push us out into the country to do this incredibly important work together.
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ARROYO: There is something at play here, Laura. He beats out every word. But I'm going to tell you what's happening psychologically beneath the surface. He's a very inarticulate guy, and he's straining for the words, so he's using the gestures to fill the pauses. And he's almost trying to summon the next word out because this fills the gap.
INGRAHAM: That's exactly what he's doing.
ARROYO: He is a man, he has very halting speech. He's unsure of how he's communicating, and he's obviously not confident in what's coming out of his mouth. So this is filling in the gap. It's like a war happening between what he's saying and what his body is doing. It's fascinating. I watched hours of this today. And I watched him campaign --
INGRAHAM: People say Trump uses his hands, which he does, but Trump's hand motions --
ARROYO: We're going to get to that in a moment. Don't ruin that because we're going to get to that.
There was a British study, Laura, that showed that gesturing might foster creative thinking. If so, Beto might join Mensa at this point. Again, there are other people who wildly gesticulate, and, well, it doesn't always help.
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ARROYO: Again, you know what Mariah is doing here, and what often does --
INGRAHAM: Straining for the note.
ARROYO: Yes, she does this to fill in the notes that don't come. He's doing almost the same thing. It's an amazing phenomenon.
INGRAHAM: Mariah has done this for years. It's called the rainwater gesture. When she's singing, she does this. She does this. Just hit the note.
ARROYO: If you don't have the notes, you fill in with the gestures.
INGRAHAM: But his gestures go into odd places.
ARROYO: He's gangly and the body is out --
INGRAHAM: It's large. It's a --
ARROYO: Look, if the presidential thing doesn't work out for Beto, there is a back-up career, and I thought of this repeatedly. He could always be a signer. By the way, this is a fraudulent signer from Tampa. She was saying nothing, Laura, and they busted her. She's just making it up.
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INGRAHAM: She's just making it up. How horrible.
ARROYO: Anyway, rather than analyze the gestures of Beto, as they should have done yesterday, as we just did, the media went right to the political. Watch this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's been more than noted today that this president has his own vast collection of hand gestures.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT: Oh, he has small hands. I do? I looked. I said, I do.
This is fake news put out by the media.
Bing, bing, bong, and dat..
Bing, bong.
Bing, bing.
Bing, bing.
Bong, bong.
Bing, bing, bing.
You know what that is, right?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The verbal and manual stylings of our president say nothing of his newest challenger on the Democratic side.
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ARROYO: The difference here is Trump uses gestures to accentuate and underscore. He's not filling gaps or filling time. When he goes, bing, bing, he's actually using that to underscore --
INGRAHAM: It's like Don Rickles.
ARROYO: Right.
INGRAHAM: That sounds like Don Rickles.
All right, across the globe today, in some 500 cities, students decided to ditch school, convenient -- where do I go to sign up for that -- and protest climate change, and demand action. Here's a bit of the action from D.C. today.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We don't want coal. We don't want oil. We want to put the Green New Deal in act.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is time for us to stop watching. It is time for us to fight back. We are the generation that will lead international action.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Anybody with common sense and any sort of hope for our generation and for future generations should be here marching with us today.
There's just way too much proof that it's not a hoax.
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ARROYO: What happened to truancy, Laura Ingraham? What happened to -- you're not supposed to just leave school because you can.
INGRAHAM: But I will say, but celebrated by adults who indulge them.
ARROYO: Who encourage them.
INGRAHAM: Encourage them. And by the way, it's a lot easier than algebra two or pre-cal or calculus or statistics or microbiology.
ARROYO: But Laura, when we're beneath proficiency in reading, in math, in science in the United States.
INGRAHAM: You think the Koreans and the Indians are out there doing climate change?
ARROYO: They are too, but they are way above us academically. They can afford it.
INGRAHAM: They have time.
ARROYO: They can afford it. But here's the problem. Why are we training these kids to be professional activists? Train them to do something. Then you can get politically motivated because you have a stake in the system. I don't like this, using kids as tools.
INGRAHAM: No, no, no. But if you learn something, you go out in the world, and you study it and learn it, then fine. Or if you've just done something. But just I'm 14, pay attention to me. OK.
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ARROYO: "The New York Times" had this little opinion piece, it was a kid reading to adults in the library, teaching them about climate change.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The world is big and I am small. One day I wish to see it all. The earth is in trouble, hear our call. Goodbye New York and Miami, both cities swallowed by the sea. Whose fault is all this climate mess? You grown-ups must confess. It's no time for celebration. You totally screwed my generation.
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INGRAHAM: Lovely.
ARROYO: Move over Longfellow. He should go to elocution class because I didn't know what he was saying.
INGRAHAM: Byron and Keats all combined.
ARROYO: Write a report, read something about climate change, we don't need your activism.
INGRAHAM: No. No can do.
There is a tendency, by the way, for the left to use tragedy to not just win a political argument but to circumscribe, limit speech in the process. Tucker Carlson is here late on a Friday night to explain, next.
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INGRAHAM: Here's an important follow-up to one of the more under-covered stories of the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation hearing. Former Democratic Senate aide Jackson Cosko, he was accused of revealing the numbers and addresses of the Republican senators, remember. He has a more complicated background than first known. The Daily Caller News Foundation reporting that not only did he possess that sensitive Senate data, but he's also the son of a wealthy family from California who has, big surprise, close ties to Dianne Feinstein.
Now, remember, Senator Feinstein, who many believe timed that leak to the sexual assault allegations against Kavanaugh in order to destroy his nomination, yes, that Di Fi, well, the connections are hard to miss. The wealthy family, the ties to folks in power, it just represents another example in a long line of offenses to people on the right that people on the left would rather go unchallenged and have no repercussions, of course.
Between the college admissions scam we talked about earlier this week, the Covington Catholic story, the Smollett hoax, and so many others, offenses seem to be quickly excused so long as the victims are on the right.
So what should we take from all of this? We need real consequences and real repercussions in cases where the powerful are allowed to act, it seems, to a lot of us, with impunity, even to the point of criminality.
Also tonight, as we mentioned at the top of the show there is a tendency on the left to not just use tragedy to win political arguments, but to shut down speech they don't like. Now here's just one example of this tactic.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He referred to the southern border as an invasion, the precise language used by the shooter in this case and the shooter in the Tree of Life. And so even though he's been warned again and again about the consequences of his rhetoric, he continues to use it in the exact same breath in which he's expressing condolences.
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INGRAHAM: OK, in other words, stop advocating for border enforcement using strong language, stop talking about sovereignty, Donald Trump, and anyone else who believes the same way he does.
We're now joined by our own Tucker Carlson, of course the host of "Tucker Carlson Tonight" at 8:00 p.m. right here on Fox. Tucker, of course, you've gone through your deal this week. But it isn't enough to blame Trump. They want to go further than that, don't they? They want to circumscribe speech.
TUCKER CARLSON, HOST: Well, of course. And virtually every crisis or disaster or mass shooting, terror attack, even natural disaster, is used as a pretext to work toward a preexisting goal, which is to make it a more authoritarian society and get rid of the rights that are in the way of accumulating more power. The First and Second Amendments are first and second on that list.
INGRAHAM: The left was already moving against the NRA and Second Amendment rights. You've heard that all over the Internet, Tucker. And of course, that's happening in New Zealand, but let's focus on the United States.
The left was always priding itself, go back 30 years. They were the freedom party. Make love, not war. We're for happiness, love, all the smiley faces. But now the left is the anti-freedom party, and we're seeing this in so many ways. Obviously, on the speech front, they want to shut down people they don't like. They want to try to get them off the air or change the way they use language. But now when a freak, an evildoer, terrorist, in another country thousands of miles away, when he uses a phrase, now no one else can use that phrase. Where does this end up going, Tucker?
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CARLSON: You can't squelch ideas, actually, over time. And the Internet, for all of its unintended bad consequences, and there are certainly many, probably too many to count, the one thing that is heartening about the Internet is you can't really control it. It's just not built to be controlled. And so, this is fruitless. You can shut down this social media engine or you can kick these people off Twitter, you can deplatform people and not let them use PayPal. But in the end, if an idea seems right, people will be convinced by it.
I think what the left has lost the ability to do is make an argument, and the reason they have lost that ability is because they are in charge now. They were for free speech when they are on the outside looking in, fighting the establishment. Now they are the establishment, and so free speech is a threat to them, as it is to all establishments, by the way. They're not the first people in charge to clamp down. Woodrow Wilson put people in prison for disagreeing with the First World War. But it's so interesting that it has happened so quickly that the same boomer generation, the same people who were protesting in Berkeley in 64 for the free speech movement, are now telling us hate speech is real and you need to be punished if you disagree with them. It's amazing.
INGRAHAM: President Trump was asked about this in the Oval Office today, and he made some comments. Let's watch.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT: I don't really. I think it's a small group of people that have very, very serious problems. I guess if you look at what happened in New Zealand, perhaps that's the case. I don't know enough about it yet.
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INGRAHAM: OK, so Donald Trump comes out and makes some brief remarks. The lower third at CNN for, I think it seemed like it was an hour, maybe it was shorter than that, Tucker, was Donald Trump, basically, downplays white nationalism, or claims that white nationalism isn't on the rise. And I'm thinking, you might as well just mock him up in a white hood in a KKK outfit, OK, because that's what they were -- it wasn't even implying. It was explicit. Unbelievable.
CARLSON: Well, it's also boring. What does this story have to do with Trump? It was a Brit in New Zealand shooting up a mosque, two mosques. That has nothing to do with the United States, or Donald Trump. It's a measure of their monomania. Everything is about Trump. And I think that's one of the problems that I have with this moment is not only is it authoritarian, obviously, but it's just completely uninteresting. If everything is about Trump then there is no room for anything else. There's a lot of other stuff going on.
And you see what I'm saying? So rather than look at, why did this guy do this? We're not exactly sure. The manifesto obviously gives us a lot of clues, but none of that has to do with Trump. It's weird.
INGRAHAM: And Tucker, there was a moment where Peter Bergen, who is fairly well respected, he interviewed bin Laden years ago. He's a pretty interesting guy.
CARLSON: Yes, I agree.
INGRAHAM: But he was on CNN today -- I've interviewed him a bunch of time, I'm sure you have, too. But he's trying to equate New Zealand and the horrific act of terrorism there with the general populist movement in Europe, the pro-sovereignty movement. And I want you to listen closely to how he phrases it, because I think that's where ultimately this is going, to a totally ideological war because of the connection and the words used in this manifesto. Let's watch.
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PETER BERGEN, JOURNALIST: Look at the rise of white, essentially ultranationalist parties in Europe. These used to be very marginal five years ago. But Marine Le Pen is now a very powerful politician in France. Geert Wilders is a very powerful politician in Holland. Poland and Hungary are controlled by ultranationalist politicians. So the whole environment, it's not just simply white nationalists, violent extremists, but the whole environment in the west has become much more sympathetic to these ideas.
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INGRAHAM: Tucker, they are sympathetic to the mass killer because the elites failed Europe, and the standard of living of most people hasn't been going up, and they are frustrated with their governments. So they are making that connection now. That was probably the most infuriating comment of the day for me.
CARLSON: His point about nationalism is right, I think. I don't think it's a bad thing. Countries should be nationalist. Nation states should be nationalist states. Of course. They are nations. It doesn't mean -- exactly, they don't need to be violent or ethno-states or anything creepy like that. I personally reject all of that stuff, obviously.
But they should act in their own interest. That's not weird. Angela Merkel is weird. She's the anomaly, did a lot to destroy German. And if a resurgent right, a nationalist right emerges in Germany and it will make us all nervous, definitely me included, you can blame Angela Merkel.
So what's so interesting is a smart guy like Bergen, who actually I know him and I like him, he's a smart guy.
INGRAHAM: Yes, me, too.
CARLSON: But take the next step. Why is this happening? It's happening because the people in charge are morons and they govern for their own benefit. They're totally ideological and they can't change course even when the current course has been proven to be disastrous. So that's the real story.
INGRAHAM: The global elites screwed up, the people reacted, and sometimes they are going to overreact, and then they never take a moment and pause and say, gee, how can we do this better? How can we make a difference here? Unbelievable. Tucker, love having you on. I know you stayed up late. Thank you so much. We really appreciate.
CARLSON: Thanks a million, Laura. I appreciate it. Thank you.
INGRAHAM: Well, thanks for joining us late on a Friday night. We'll be right back with my Twitter smackdown of the day. This person just makes it so easy sometimes, but it's still fun.
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INGRAHAM: All right, it's time for my Twitter smackdown of the day. And of course, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeting up a storm today, including this, "Daily reminder that we have a Muslim ban in this country made out of the president's hostility to Muslim people with little to no supporting evidence, and a Republican Party that tolerates it. There is so much work to do. Repealing the ban is square one."
Well, I had to set her straight, obviously, and tweeted, "Ignorance must be bliss. The travel ban is not a Muslim ban. Obviously if it was it would have included the three biggest Muslim countries and it doesn't -- Indonesia, India, and Pakistan." If you didn't learn this in your Congressional orientation or any little reading that you do on the side, maybe you should go back to hit the books. So write it down. Facts are important.
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