Howard Wolfson, Communications Director for the Clinton Campaign Talks With Bill

This is a rush transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," July 24, 2007. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

BILL O’REILLY, HOST: Now for the top story tonight, another view of this. Joining us from Washington, Howard Wolfson, a top advisor to Senator Clinton. On Mrs. Clinton's website stands this statement: "Tell Bill O'Reilly to stop smearing grassroots progressives." That after our reporting on JetBlue sponsoring the Kos convention.

So Mr. Wolfson, you want to explain that?

HOWARD WOLFSON, CLINTON COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: Sure. And I hope that all of your viewers will go to our website, and sign the petition.

Bill, I think it's unfortunate that in the last week or so, you have cherry picked some comments on the DailyKos site that you or I or others might find objectionable and have decided to smear an entire community, hundreds of thousands of people who go to the site every day, who talk to one another, who participate vigorously in our democracy, and are urging Democratic presidential candidates to stay away from their yearly conference.

And unfortunately, with all due respect for you, the days where you can dictate where Senator Clinton and other Democrats go, who we talk to, are over.

O'REILLY: OK, that's fine. So you like the DailyKos, do you?

WOLFSON: You know, I like the idea that there are hundreds of thousands of progressives, hundreds of thousands of committed Democrats, and progressives who come, who communicate with one another…

O'REILLY: And you like this place.

WOLFSON: …who have a vigorous exchange of ideas.


WOLFSON: I like the fact that people are committed.

O'REILLY: Can't do that on the Hillary Clinton website or any other blogs? You have to do it there?



WOLFSON: No, you don't have to do it there, but lots of people do. And that's a good thing.

O'REILLY: Now I have an issue — a viewer warning right now because I'm about to read some of the postings about Senator Hillary Clinton on the DailyKos. This is what they allow to be put up there. These are objectionable, ladies and gentlemen. You might want to turn the channel right now. And then you can react after I'm finished. I'm not going to read them all, but…

WOLFSON: It would take a while.

O'REILLY: …this is what the DailyKos posts about Hillary Clinton. Hillary George Wallace Clinton F you and you're a sucking appeasing any way the wind blows careerist slag. We're looking at President George W. Bush with breasts, only they didn't use the word breasts.

Hillary is not the answer. She is owned and operated by right wing crazies. She is for more war, more attack, weaponizing Israel. Hillary Rodham Clinton, just trust me, wink, wink, F that and F her. Hillary got stains on her dress, too.

Hillary Rodham Clinton is a walking, talking repudiation of everything that Kos and the net roots have worked for over the past four years. I have nothing but contempt for this evil woman, Hillary Clinton. Damn her to hell.

This is what's posted on the DailyKos that you're sticking up for, Mr. Wolfson. You want to explain that?

WOLFSON: Well, I'm not going to stick up for those comments in particular. In truth, we do come in for our fair share of criticism.

O'REILLY: No, no, but this isn't criticism. These are brutal personal attacks…

WOLFSON: Yes, and…

O'REILLY: …that the DailyKos trades in and that you're going to their convention. Now…


O'REILLY: …what's the difference between David Duke and the hate stuff that he puts on his website with his bloggers and this? What is the difference?

WOLFSON: Well, that's a good question. And the crucial difference is that David Duke's entire organization is rooted in hate and racism.

O'REILLY: And the DailyKos is not?

WOLFSON: …and anti-Semitism. No, it certainly is not.


WOLFSON: It is primarily hundreds of thousands, as I said, good American citizens who are participating in our democracy.

O'REILLY: And why do they permit this - why do they permit it then?

WOLFSON: You know, I haven't seen those particular posts. There are posts that disagree with Senator Clinton on policy. I think it's perfectly appropriate to disagree with her on policy.

O'REILLY: So do I. You're going to disagree with anybody.

WOLFSON: Absolutely. We're not going to agree with everything that everybody posts comments on.

O'REILLY: It's not a matter of agreeing. This is what's on this website every day. Tony Snow deserves to have cancer. The pope is a primate.

WOLFSON: You are cherry picking...

O'REILLY: I'm not cherry picking anything.

WOLFSON: …comments that are objectionable…

O'REILLY: This is what they do.

WOLFSON: …and attempting to smear an entire community of people. And it's wrong.

O'REILLY: It's only about the Kos, not about any community of people. It's about them.

WOLFSON: It's hundreds of thousands of American citizens…

O'REILLY: And you're going to their convention.

WOLFSON: …who are participating in democracy in the most basic and vital way.

O'REILLY: All right.

WOLFSON: We're just talking to one another.

O'REILLY: You're making an enormous mistake because people, independent voters, which you need to have Mrs. Clinton — Senator Clinton elected president, they are going to decide the election. All right? The Democrats.

WOLFSON: Bill, you talk to people all the time that you don't agree with who say objectionable things.

O'REILLY: This is a pattern of behavior.

WOLFSON: You've had people on your show who've said objectionable things.


WOLFSON: Yes, and you've had people on your show…

O'REILLY: And they're challenged.

WOLFSON: …with a pattern of behavior of saying objectionable things.

O'REILLY: They're absolutely challenged.

WOLFSON: And there are things that we don't agree with on DailyKos, of course. But you are cherry picking the most extreme examples.

O'REILLY: I just read you — and you want me — I can read you 30 more.

WOLFSON: Sure. There are millions of comments on that site over the last several years. Millions. Could you find some that are objectionable? Sure you can.

O'REILLY: These are — every respectable blog in the country…

WOLFSON: There are people who say objectionable things every day.

O'REILLY: …every respectable blog in the country, and you know this, because I think Hillary Clinton's website is respectable.

WOLFSON: Thank you.

O'REILLY: Every respectable blog in the country does not permit this hatred. Even…

WOLFSON: Bill, even your website has things on it that you would find objectionable.

O'REILLY: That's bull. Look, we know what you're going to say because the Kos planted someone in there. But when we see objectionable things, we take it off immediately. They traffic in it.

WOLFSON: That's it.

O'REILLY: And there's where you're making a mistake.


O'REILLY: You're pandering to these people by showing up there.

WOLFSON: It is not pandering to talk to hundreds of thousands of people who are committed Democrats, committed progressives, who are interested in turning this country around and changing it for the better.

O'REILLY: All right.

WOLFSON: Are there some we disagree with? You bet. But we're not going to be drawn into an argument with them, with all due respect, by you.

O'REILLY: All right, Mr. Wolfson.

WOLFSON: And we're not going to let you determine who we talk to.

O'REILLY: I appreciate — you can talk to anybody you want.

WOLFSON: Thank you, sir.

O'REILLY: But if you're going to deal with a hate website, which is what this is, then the accusations, there they are. And then people can decide for themselves. I want them to go and see this stuff.

WOLFSON: Sure. People can decide about you…

O'REILLY: Absolutely.

WOLFSON: …based on who your guests are.

O'REILLY: And they have decided. We're the dominant cable news operation in the United States.

WOLFSON: And DailyKos is one of the most trafficked websites in the country.

O'REILLY: All right, hate site. Mr. Wolfson, thanks very much. We appreciate it. Nice to speak with you.

WOLFSON: Thank you.

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