Arpaio on immigration: Trump has the guts to do something
Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Jan Brewer compare Donald Trump's policies to the Democrats' on 'Hannity'
This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," May 13, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
SEAN HANNITY, HOST: Welcome to this special edition of "Hannity: Trump Versus the Left." Since the day that Donald Trump announced he was running for office, well, the left has been trying to vilify him and his positions. Tonight, for the hour, we're going to show you how radical liberals really compare to Donald Trump.
Let's take a look.
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DONALD TRUMP, R-PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I will build a great, great wall, and I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS, I-VT., D-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We don't need a wall and we don't need barbed wire.
PROTESTERS: Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon!
BARACK OBAMA, D-PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: ... Black Twitter to Black Lives Matter that America's eyes have been opened.
TRUMP: The police are the most mistreated people in this country. I will tell you that!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Black lives matter or do all lives matter? Let's put that question to Senator Sanders.
SANDERS: Black lives matter.
TRUMP: You're going to hear it once. All lives matter.
What I want to do is bring our jobs back from China, bring our jobs back from Mexico.
CLINTON: We're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.
TRUMP: It's going to get worse and worse, folks. We can be politically correct or we can be stupid!
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HANNITY: And here with reaction, the editor-in-chief of Lifezette.com, Fox News contributor Laura Ingraham.
All right, think about this. The left, OK, you see these rallies, the American flag. They're against the wall. Black lives matter or all lives? Well, they say black lives matter. I and you and Donald Trump say all lives matter, or even waterboarding the three people that we waterboarded which led to bin Laden, or you know, energy independence and not taking away coal miners' jobs and putting coal out of business.
They're very profound differences when you think about it, right?
LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, of course. I think the election really is going to be a choice between America as an independent, free and sovereign country, Sean, or America as just part of a global order. And clearly, the Clintons, the Obamas, the Democrat Party is happy to have America just be one other country.
Remember his famous -- or infamous comment about American exceptionalism? Yes, but there's Greek exceptionalism and British exceptionalism? Just an amazing comment from a president of the United States back in 2009, and that really did tell us a lot about how radically different the left's view of America as a special place is from, I think, ours and I think the overwhelming majority of Americans. So the choice is stark and it couldn't be more serious.
HANNITY: You know, and you think about this -- what do you say to those -- let me backtrack. I am not going to spend my time on radio and television trying to tell people who to vote for, but to me, on every major issue -- the economy, on spending, on judges, on immigration, on vets, on the military, on ISIS, saying the words "radical Islam," you just -- you know, education, right on down the list, energy -- there's such profound differences here, and yet some people are unwilling to acknowledge that. Why?
INGRAHAM: Well, I think there's a lot of reasons, probably complex. I mean, I think a lot of them have staked (ph) the Republican Party on globalization, and you know, for a lot of these fellows -- not all of them, but for a lot of these folks, they tied Bushism to conservatism, and they think if it's just done again, maybe by another person, it will work out better for America.
But America's just said no to that. It wouldn't be clearer, said no to McCain, who was an extension of Bush. They said no to Romney, who had a lot of problems, but he was pretty much an extension of the globalization, more, you know -- he was OK on trade, but on a lot of these issues, he was much closer to the establishment. People just said no to this.
HANNITY: All right, so Paul Ryan...
INGRAHAM: And I think they're angry about that.
HANNITY: Paul Ryan is going through all -- you know, making Trump jump through hoops to get his support, based on all the issues and the differences that exist between Trump and Hillary. Then you've got Lindsey Graham. He promised he'd support the nominee. No. Jeb Bush, same thing. Then you've got George Will urging Republicans to beat Donald Trump in all 50 states. Then Bill Kristol -- he's aligning with Senator Ben Sasse and Mitt Romney. I like Mitt Romney. We all supported Mitt Romney.
INGRAHAM: Yes, he's a nice person.
HANNITY: And they're talking about third party running against him. And I'm thinking, Wow, this is -- this is almost like sabotage. And I remember kind of biting the bullet and having to support Bob Dole and John McCain.
INGRAHAM: Remember those days? Yes, that was fun.
HANNITY: Yes, exactly.
INGRAHAM: I think, Sean, again, a lot of these folks -- they have goals and a lot of the goals are the same goals that we have. They want a smaller government. They want American growth back, job growth. They want a renewed sense of patriotism. They want a foreign policy that's meaningful so we're not the laughingstock of the world. They do want a bigger, better military -- better military, bigger military.
How will any of that become a reality, closer to reality under a Clinton administration? I mean, if we cease to be a free and independent country, if judges can rule by fiat from the bench of the Supreme Court...
HANNITY: How about that one issue...
INGRAHAM: ... all of those goals are going to be upended, all of them!
HANNITY: All right, so if he releases the names of conservative justices, as he said that he would -- I'm assuming he's going to -- in the vein of Scalia and Thomas, if he builds the wall and if he just does energy independence, those three things, America would be better off than another four years of Obama via Hillary Clinton.
INGRAHAM: It's almost like people -- the people who are, you know, the never -- I almost say never-Trumpers are never-thinkers now. I don't mean to be mean. But at some point, it becomes insanity.
They will not get closer to their ideals after four years of Hillary and they think after four years of Hillary, we'll probably have immigration amnesty. They'll probably cut some deal on that. We'll have more immigrants voting. Many of them are voting for bigger benefits. We know that from the polling.
So they think there's going to be some magic thing happen between now and 2020 where everyone is going to stand up and suddenly be, like, Oh, yes, Rubio's our guy, or I don't know...
HANNITY: Here's my question...
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HANNITY: That's a great point. I've thought deeply about this. Every time -- I don't know, and I defy anybody, if you're a Cruz supporter, a Rubio supporter, a Kasich supporter, whoever supporter -- let's walk through the electoral map together.
INGRAHAM: Right.
HANNITY: Tell me what states they would win. Tell me how they get to 270 because at the end of the day I don't know who's the most electable, but clearly, the voters thought Trump was, and they may be right if he's competing in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida...
INGRAHAM: Yes.
HANNITY: ... and maybe puts a state like New Jersey in play. That would be huge.
INGRAHAM: I mean, that's our system. That's who they chose overwhelmingly. And I know folks are bitter and unhappy, and it hurts to lose. I understand that. We've all lost in our life. It's not easy. But in the end, both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio -- they're young guys.
HANNITY: Agreed.
INGRAHAM: They have a really bright future in the party if they -- if they-- if they just hold -- keep their powder dry and if they learn some important lessons. I'm not trying to sound patronizing because they're both very smart guys. But they have to learn some lessons here.
Reagan became a better candidate after '76. He became a phenomenal candidate, and he learned and he got better and his communication got even more impressive and more powerful. So I think there's a lot of lessons. I think people are going to learn them sometimes slowly, maybe not as fast -- you and I are fast learners, Sean. Let's face it.
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HANNITY: And you're more impatient. You told me the other night.
INGRAHAM: I'm terrible. I'm terrible. But I think -- I think, in the end, if people learn the right lessons...
HANNITY: Agreed.
INGRAHAM: ... if they don't appear to be sabotaging Trump -- I mean, I think -- if they do appear to be sabotaging Trump, let's just put it this way, they're going to become irrelevant really fast and they're just not going to be part of the solution. And I think the rest of us are going to just say, God bless you, but get out of the way because we got to save the country.
HANNITY: I agree. There's a lot at stake this election. Laura, always appreciate your time.
INGRAHAM: Absolutely.
HANNITY: Thank you.
INGRAHAM: Good to see you.
HANNITY: Coming up next on this special edition of "Hannity"...
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TRUMP: We're going to have a strong border. Yes, we're going to have the wall. Who's going to pay for the wall?
AUDIENCE: Mexico!
TRUMP: A hundred percent, by the way, a hundred percent.
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HANNITY: Donald Trump -- he wants to build a border wall. And the left responds by waving Mexican flags outside of his rallies. Former governor Jan Brewer and Sheriff Joe Arpaio will weigh in on all of that.
And then later tonight...
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TRUMP: The police are the most mistreated people in this country. I will tell you that!
PROTESTERS: Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon! Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon! Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Donald Trump -- he says police are treated horribly in America. The left -- they spew vile anti-cop rhetoric on a regular basis. Bo Dietl, Eric Guster, the Reverend Darrell Scott will join us. All of that and more on this special edition of "Trump Versus the left" on "Hannity."
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TRUMP: Number one, you wouldn't even be talking and you wouldn't have asked that as the first question if it weren't for me when (ph) my opening when I talked about illegal immigration. It wouldn't even be a big subject. But we either have a country or we don't have a country. We have at least 11 million people in this country that came in illegally. They will go out. They will come back. Some will come back, the best, through a process. They have to come back legally.
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HANNITY: And welcome back to this special edition of "Hannity: Trump Versus the Left." Now, the presumptive GOP nominee has made the issue of illegal immigration a major topic in the 2016 race. And not surprisingly, well, Trump's proposal to secure America's borders has come under attack from the liberal left and politicians. Watch this.
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HILLARY CLINTON, D-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Instead of building walls, we need to be tearing down barriers.
I think we've done a really good job securing the border, and I think that those who say we haven't are not paying attention to everything that was done for the last 15 years under both President Bush and President Obama. Immigration from Mexico has dropped considerably. It's just not happening anymore.
SANDERS: The so-called immigration problem we face today, at this particular moment, is a trumped- up and exaggerated problem. We don't need a wall and we don't need barbed wire. We need to fix our broken criminal justice system.
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HANNITY: And left-wing open border agitators -- they've followed that lead and taken things even further by actually waving Mexican flags outside of Donald Trump's rallies.
Here to react, former Arizona governor Jan Brewer, Maricopa County sheriff, the one and only Joe Arpaio. OK, we've secured the border? We've done a good job of securing the border? So everything, Sheriff, that I'm hearing about the impact of illegal immigration on our criminal justice system, educational system, health care system, is a lie? That drug warehouse that I went to that was filled floor to ceiling with drugs -- that's not a problem?
Where does Hillary get that information from?
JOE ARPAIO, MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF: Well, I don't know. You know, she badmouthed me nationally, and also the other guy, Bernie, did, too, threatening when he becomes president, he's going to use his power to go after me. Let them do it. They're both not going to be president anyway.
But it is a big problem. You know, Donald Trump back in July opened the door for illegal immigration. In fact, that's when I supported him way back then. I knew he had the guts to do something, and I know something will be done. That's what we need. We have to cooperate with Mexico. But what's the big brainer (ph) about a wall? You know, you put the wall up, you keep the drugs from coming in, you keep illegal immigration from coming in. It's going to help...
HANNITY: And you keep ISIS from coming in. How's that? How about we keep ISIS and other enemies...
ARPAIO: Yes. OK. All right.
HANNITY: ... of America from coming in?
ARPAIO: OK, if they don't want to pay for it, take away their foreign aid. That's what I'd do when I was head of the DEA in Mexico City under Nixon. Hey, he threatened them with taking away their money. You'd be surprised how quickly they cooperate. And that can be done again today, wall or no wall. But I think we need the wall, anyway.
HANNITY: Governor, what do you make of how Democrats just totally lie and mischaracterize what's actually happening on the border? What is your response to what they say, We don't have a problem there?
JAN BREWER, R-FMR. ARIZONA GOVERNOR: Well, it's absolutely, Sean, outrageous. Fact of the matter is, they know that we have a huge problem. All of America know that we have a problem, given the fact that we have drug cartels all over this wonderful country of ours and we reap (ph) all the crime from them coming across our open borders.
They don't want the borders closed. We've known that for a long time. And everybody has their suspicions, but after sitting and listening to all this rhetoric, the bottom line is, is I would not be surprised that -- and people will agree with me on this, I think, that they have the borders open. They have illegal immigration. They call it immigration. It's illegal immigration.
HANNITY: Yes.
BREWER: And they're bringing people in here. Then you got a president -- then you got a president that gives them amnesty and DACA so they can stay in the country.
HANNITY: Yes.
BREWER: And then they can get their papers...
HANNITY: And Sheriff...
BREWER: ... and then they can vote, and then they can make our country left!
HANNITY: So Democrats, Sheriff, they want a voting bloc for generations. Republicans -- they want to cater to their big business buddies that want cheap labor. I actually think the Democrats are smarter because they're thinking more long term. And Republicans, they're not thinking about the American worker that's lost their job because illegal immigration is competing with Americans for jobs and driving down labor costs, right, and wages?
ARPAIO: Yes, but if you think that -- they wanted, you know, to sign up, what, a million immigrants that they think they're all going to vote Democrat. That's not true. I think Donald will get a good share of those people. So they're off base. Actually, a lot of them don't vote anyway. So that's just a little -- you know, a little rhetoric they're throwing out there against Donald Trump. So that's not going to work.
You know, we got to do something in Mexico City, Sean.
HANNITY: Yes.
ARPAIO: You know, I'm trying to get there to meet the president. Now they're saying they don't want me there, hooking me with Trump. I don't think that's right.
HANNITY: Yes.
ARPAIO: So a lot of politics involved. And you know that, I know that...
HANNITY: All right...
ARPAIO: ... the people...
HANNITY: ... Governor...
ARPAIO: ... know that.
HANNITY: ... you know the state of Arizona. Last time, it went Democrat. Will it go for Donald Trump this time?
BREWER: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely! No doubt.
HANNITY: No doubt at all?
BREWER: You know, there's a lot of -- none. None. People are fed up! They're fed up, and if you vote for Hillary, what are you going to do? You can have another four years of Barack Obama and his terrible policies? We need to turn this country around and we need to make America great again. And Mr. Trump can do that.
HANNITY: Well, we can all hope. Thank you both for being with us, and the job you're doing and your outspokenness.
And coming up next on this special edition of "Hannity"...
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TRUMP: By the way, the police are the most mistreated people in this country. I will tell you that!
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
TRUMP: All right, folks, you're going to hear it once. All lives matter.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
TRUMP: All lives matter.
OBAMA: ... because thanks in large part to the activism of young people like many of you, from Black Twitter to Black Lives Matter, that America's eyes have been opened.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Now, Donald Trump says all lives matter. He supports the police, while the left -- they back the anti-cop Black Lives Matter movement. Bo Dietl, Eric Guster and the Reverend Darrell Scott will react.
And then later tonight...
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TRUMP: We're going to bring back our jobs and we're going to keep our jobs.
CLINTON: ... because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Donald Trump wants to bring jobs back to America. Hillary -- well, she promised to destroy America's coal industry. We'll have reaction on this special edition of "Hannity: Donald Trump Versus the American Left" straight ahead.
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HANNITY: And welcome back to this special edition of "Hannity: Trump Versus the Left." Now, when it comes to the Black Lives Matters (sic) movement, Donald Trump and liberals have very different views. Take a look at where Trump stands.
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TRUMP: By way, the police are the most mistreated people in this country. I will tell you that.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
TRUMP: All right, folks, you're going to hear it once. All lives matter.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
TRUMP: All lives matter.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Now, Democrats are the complete opposite when it comes to the Black Lives Matter movement. And the support that they give the police -- well, they don't really give it, do they. Watch this.
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PROTESTERS: Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon! Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do we want?
PROTESTERS: Dead cops!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When do we want it?
PROTESTERS: Now!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Now, instead of condemning the Black Lives Matter movement for chanting anti-police rhetoric -- well, President Obama -- he praises them. Take a look.
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OBAMA: I'm so proud of the new guard of black civil rights leaders who understand this, that thanks in large part to the activism of young people like many of you, from Black Twitter to Black Lives Matter, that America's eyes have been opened.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Now, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have also backed this movement. Take a look.
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CLINTON: Young people have taken to the streets, dignified and determined, urging us to affirm the basic fact that black lives matter.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: I do believe in equal treatment for African-Americans who are right to proclaim the moral principle that black lives matter.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Here with reaction are former NYPD detective Bo Dietl, from the New Spirit Revival Center, the Reverend Darrell Scott, and attorney and political commentator Eric Guster.
All right, why would the president, Hillary and Bernie Sanders praise a group that chanted "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon" and talk about dead cops? Why would a president, why would presidential candidates praise that group? Don't you think that's inappropriate?
ERIC GUSTER, FOX CONTRIBUTOR: It's totally appropriate...
HANNITY: Totally appropriate?
GUSTER: What they said was inappropriate. That small little...
(CROSSTALK)
GUSTER: the 10-second clip, come on, Sean, you can do better than that.
HANNITY: "What do we want? Dead cops. When do we want them? Now."
GUSTER: What the president said at the Howard University commencement speech that you played a small clip of -- he was talking about...
HANNITY: Talking about.
GUSTER: ... being proactive with riots and being very proactive...
HANNITY: Excuse me!
GUSTER: ... in making sure...
HANNITY: He's invited -- he invited them to the White House!
GUSTER: No, no, no!
HANNITY: Hillary and Bernie praised this group!
GUSTER: And he told them to stop doing that.
HANNITY: Oh!
GUSTER: He told them do not interrupt. So you're saying...
HANNITY: How do you know what he told them? He never said that!
(CROSSTALK)
GUSTER: He also said that the president should not -- should not praise them, but he...
HANNITY: Pastor, let me ask you...
GUSTER: ... told them what to do.
REV. DARRELL SCOTT, NEW SPIRIT REVIVAL CENTER: Hillary -- Hillary Clinton...
GUSTER: You know that, Sean!
HANNITY: Does the president of the United States belong inviting people that say, "What do we want? Dead cops," "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon"?
GUSTER: He didn't invite them.
SCOTT: Listen, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders both said that because it's election time, and they're using Black Lives Matter as a slogan to get the black vote, pure and simple. If either of those were a commander-in- chief, they would respond a different way. And we know that.
There's a rogue element in police. We know that. There's a rogue element in the military. There's a rogue element in the Black Lives Matter. But we can't glamorize that rogue element simply for the sake of a mob mentality.
HANNITY: Bo, let me ask you, from a police perspective, are police hurt by that?
BO DIETL, FOX CONTRIBUTOR: Absolutely. The morale -- the morale in the police department is at the lowest I've ever seen across country. I'm in Vegas right now -- New York City. This president has been the most divisive president that we've ever had in race relationships. He could have brought us all together. He jumps ugly with Trayvon Martin. He jumps ugly with Ferguson, and that causes the problem.
Now we have people -- I seen the late -- the late '60s. I was around here. I seen the divisiveness then. Now it's at an all-time high, Sean. I just can't believe what has happened in the country. And they're using it -- like the reverend said, they're using it as a political tool right now.
And I guarantee you, when President Trump comes into office, it's going to end because he'll bring people together. He's sick and tired of this division also. People don't remember one thing. When something happens, who do you call? You call the police to help you. And where are they in Chicago, in Baltimore, the highest crime rates of murders in this country. And who are they run by? Democratic mayors! Where are they doing black lives...
(CROSSTALK)
DIETL: ... in Chicago and Baltimore!
GUSTER: ... we've seen in two decades.
(CROSSTALK)
HANNITY: Give me an example. Is he hanging out with people that call for dead cops? Is he inviting them to his house?
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He offered to pay the legal fees of people who...
HANNITY: Oh, stop!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... were punching out protesters.
(CROSSTALK)
HANNITY: "Pigs in a blanket," Eric, "Pigs in a blanket." "What do we want? Dead cops."
(CROSSTALK)
HANNITY: And your candidate supports that...
(CROSSTALK)
GUSTER: ... talking about a small fraction of a movement.
(CROSSTALK)
HANNITY: When we come back...
(CROSSTALK)
HANNITY: ... on this special edition of "Hannity"...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Darrell Scott...
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TRUMP: We're going to bring back our jobs and we're going to keep our jobs.
CLINTON: ...because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.
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HANNITY: Donald Trump -- he wants to bring jobs back to America while liberals like Hillary Clinton -- oh, she wants to kill off entire industries. This is how these people put food on their table. We'll get reaction.
Also tonight...
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TRUMP: Well, we have to be vigilant. There is a radical Islamic terrorism problem that, you know, our president doesn't even want to talk about.
OBAMA: Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism, it is an important part of promoting peace.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Now, Trump calls the terrorists what they really are, radical Islamists. But Democrats -- they don't do it. They're afraid to do so. Our panel will weigh in.
And more on this special edition of "Hannity: Trump Versus America's Left" straight ahead.
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PATRICIA STARK, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Live from America's news headquarters, I'm Patricia Stark.
The auction of the gun that was used to kill Trayvon Martin appears to have been hijacked. George Zimmerman started an auction for the gun used to kill the teen in 2012 with bids starting at $5,000. Bids are now up to $65 million but it seems most of the names used for the bid are fake. Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder and manslaughter in the case. The bid will be open for four more days.
The TSA says they are trying to cut down on long security lines at the airport. More officers will be allowed to work overtime and more security screeners will be hired. The announcement comes as travelers have stood in lines as long as two hours in some airports. Delays are expected to continue as the busy summer travel season approaches. Some airports are threatening to get rid of the TSA and replace them with private security services.
I'm Patricia Stark. And now back to "Hannity." For all your headlines, log on to FoxNews.com.
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TRUMP: We're going to bring back our jobs and we're going to keep our jobs. We're not going to let companies leave. Now, if they want to go to a different state, good luck, compete. But when they start going to different countries and in many cases countries that devalue their currency and make it impossible for our companies to compete, that's not going to happen.
You have millions of people out there that can't get jobs. We're going to bring our jobs back to our country, and we're not going to let people leave so easily anymore.
(APPLAUSE)
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SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: And welcome back to this special edition of "Hannity." Now, that was Donald Trump talking about his plans to bring jobs back to America. His proposals are different from the 2016 Democratic presidential candidates. For example, here is Hillary Clinton bragging she will kill America's coal industry if elected.
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CLINTON: I'm the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean, renewable energy as the key, into coal country, because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.
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HANNITY: If you thought that was bad, listen to Clinton's rival Senator Bernie Sanders, the socialist, explain how he is a Democratic socialist.
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SANDERS: So let me take this opportunity to define for you simply and straightforwardly what democratic socialism means to me. It means building on what Franklin Delano Roosevelt said when he fought for guaranteed economic rights for all Americans. And it builds on what Martin Luther King Jr. said in 1968 when he stated, and I quote, "This country has socialism for the rich and rugged individualism for the poor."
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HANNITY: Joining us now from the Fox Business Network, Charles Gasparino, the co-host of "The Five" Eric Bolling, Kimberly Guilfoyle. Let's take one industry right now, the energy specter, the energy industry. So Hillary wants to put coal miners and coal mining out of business. She doesn't support fracking. She doesn't support drilling. Just if the difference on that one big issue, how many jobs would be created and how good would it be for our national security if we move toward energy independence, which Donald Trump has told me repeatedly he wants to do?
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, FOX NEWS CO-HOST, "THE FIVE": Yes, I mean, we're way behind already thanks to this eight years of Barack Obama, the job-killing machine. Followed up, what, by Hillary Clinton? I mean, who even has that within their heart, their soul, to be somebody who literally takes food off of people's plates, OK, and money out of their wallets by saying I'm going to basically ruin your life. I want to put this industry out of business. That is not responsible. That is not someone who is going to create jobs. That is not someone who embraces the free market or the energy industry, fracking, et cetera. All of this is on the plate.
HANNITY: I interviewed the guy that confronted Hillary, this poor guy, Bo Copley is his name. I interviewed him.
GUILFOYLE: Yes.
HANNITY: And it's like how could I vote for somebody that says I want to kill your job, your industry, what puts food on your family's table? How dumb is that?
ERIC BOLLING, FOX NEWS CO-HOST, "THE FIVE": Jobs and the economy, number one by far across board, voters in America, CNN poll, Fox poll, exit polls everywhere.
GUILFOYLE: Yes.
BOLLING: President Obama when he first got into office, he was in I think San Francisco on the west coast and said if you build a coal-powered fired power plant, we will put you out of business. He said it --
HANNITY: He did it.
BOLLING: She took that ball and ran with it. So she's going to be the next Barack Obama. Four, eight more years of that.
GUILFOYLE: She spiked the ball.
BOLLING: Under Obama, 91 million people have given up looking for work.
HANNITY: And 95 million people out of the labor force.
BOLLING: Out of the labor force. If you bring that back in --
(CROSSTALK)
BOLLING: Hold on, Charlie. Hang on. So president Obama says --
CHARLIE GASPARINO, FOX BUSINESS NETWORK: Hang on?
BOLLING: -- I'm going to be elected on hope and change. People are dropping out of the labor force. They decided they changed their mind, they can't even look for a job anymore. They've dropped out. You want more of that, knock yourself out.
HANNITY: Charlie, let me throw another stat at you for those people who may still consider electing Hillary, who I think would duplicate Obama's policies, you have 20 percent of American families, not one single member of that family is in the labor force. If you look at young men between the ages of 18 and 34, you've got one in six either incarcerated or out of work. The country is dying.
GASPARINO: Listen, this is -- listen, you have between Hillary and Bernie Sanders, you literally have dumb and dumber. They've sold out the working class. By the way, the Democratic Party has done this for years. They've sold out the working class, working men and women in this country for environmentalists. That's their constituency. They're sticking to it.
I will say this, though, as bad as they are, what scares a lot of people about Donald Trump, OK, is if you listen to his -- some of his comments on taxes, on debt, on trade, particularly taxes, the last couple days, I mean, he was doing, every day he was doing a 180. I tell you, you need some consistency --
HANNITY: He clarified it, but he did another thing, Charlie. He also brought into his --
GASPARINO: Sean, he clarifies it every day. That's the problem. Every day he's clarifying. Where does he stand?
HANNITY: Charlie, I got it. I understand. But he also does have a plan. And he also brought in somebody I think is pretty smart, Larry Kudlow, to help fine tune his tax and economic policy.
GASPARINO: I know, right.
HANNITY: So I think -- listen, if you're expecting him to have talking points like every other politician, don't hold your breath. You're not going to survive.
GASPARINO: With all due respect, Sean, this is easy stuff. He has a tax plan. It's pretty simple where it was, what the rates were. Even before he got to the negotiating table, and this is what worries me as a free market person, he wasn't even at the negotiating table and he started talking up the lowest rate. He started saying maybe my rates should go up. By the way, that chapter was not in "The Art of the Deal."
BOLLING: Charlie, he said his rates -- he said maybe --
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HANNITY: Hang on.
BOLLING: -- lower his taxes across the board, Charlie.
GASPARINO: And Eric --
BOLLING: You're wrong.
(CROSSTALK)
HANNITY: One at a time.
BOLLING: Charlie, would you rather have 90 percent Bernie Sanders or maybe 65 percent Hillary Clinton, or 28 percent Donald Trump?
GASPARINO: Think about this.
BOLLING: Take your pick.
HANNITY: All right. I got to wrap this up. Charlie, let someone else talk.
GASPARINO: You're going to have a -- if Donald Trump gets elected president, you'll have a Republican Congress. He won't have to negotiate.
HANNITY: Kimberly Guilfoyle, last word. We got to break.
GUILFOYLE: I just don't understand where Charlie is going with this. I get you don't like the guy, but are you team Hillary? Because she's a job killer and destroyer and has no clue how to make a buck.
GASPARINO: Team nobody.
GUILFOYLE: That's a winning solution for America.
HANNITY: You might as well just vote for Hillary again. That's half a vote for her, Charlie. We got to go.
BOLLING: Write yourself in, Charlie.
HANNITY: Coming up next on this special edition of "Hannity."
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TRUMP: We have to be vigilant. There is a radical Islamic terrorism problem that our president doesn't want to talk about.
OBAMA: Islam is not part of the problem in combatting violent extremism. It is an important part of promoting peace.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Finally, somebody who is not afraid to use the term "radical Islam." That's Donald Trump. Democrats, they don't dare utter those words. When we come back, our panel will weigh in and much more as we continue this special edition of "Hannity: Trump Versus the Left," straight ahead.
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HANNITY: And welcome back to this special edition of "Hannity: Trump Versus the American Left." The FBI director and several top national security officials have all warned that ISIS does pose a growing risk to America's security and that the terror group is trying to infiltrate the refugee population coming to this country. In response, Donald Trump has proposed a temporary ban on foreign Muslims who cannot be properly vetted from entering the country. Trump is also not afraid to label our enemies for who they really are. Let's take a look.
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TRUMP: We have to be vigilant. There is a radical Islamic terrorism problem that, you know, our president doesn't even want to talk about. All you have to do is look at the world trade center, take a look at San Bernardino or Paris, what a disaster that was.
Again, it's temporary and ultimately it's my aim to have it lifted. Now, right now there is no ban, but I would like to see -- there has to be an idea, there has to be something, because there are some pretty bad things going on, and I have Muslim friends, great Muslim friends who are telling me you are so right. There's something going on we have to get to the bottom of it.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Meanwhile the Democrats, they just refuse to even utter the words "radical Islam." Watch this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you agree with that characterization, radical Islam?
CLINTON: I don't think we're at war with Islam. I don't think we're at war with all Muslims.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Radical Islam," is that a phrase you don't --
CLINTON: I think that you can talk about Islamists who clearly are also jihadists.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Very quickly, do either of you "radical Islam," do either of you use that phrase?
SANDERS: I don't think the term is what's important.
OBAMA: Our enemies respect no religious freedom. Al Qaeda's cause is not Islam.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Here with reaction from the Islamic House of Wisdom, Imam Mohammad Ali Elahi, Act for America founder Brigitte Gabriel, and Fox News national security analyst KT McFarland. Imam, is there such a thing as radical Islamic terrorism, sir?
IMAM MOHAMMAD ALI ELAHI, ISLAMIC HOUSE OF WISDOM: What Donald Trump said, too much talk --
HANNITY: I didn't ask you that question. My answer to the question is, is there such a thing as radical Islam?
ELAHI: I wonder who is the role model of Trump. Is it Jesus or Jefferson? Is it Bible --
HANNITY: We don't need your lectures. Imam, I'm not going to let you filibuster. I asked you a question, simple. Is there such a thing as radical Islamic terrorism, yes or no?
ELAHI: Radicalism is wrong whether Islamic --
HANNITY: Radical Islamic terrorism, does it exist? Do people kill in the name of Allah?
ELAHI: When the victims of radicalism and terrorism are Muslim, like yesterday, 90 Muslims --
HANNITY: I don't want a lecture. I don't really want to hear what you have to say because you won't answer the question. Brigitte Gabriel, that's part of the problem.
ELAHI: For the people --
BRIGITTE GABRIEL: This is part of the problem. Islam is radical.
HANNITY: This imam can't even admit -- he can't even say, neither can Clinton, neither can Bernie, neither can Obama. Why?
KT MCFARLAND, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: I understand why the imam isn't going to admit it. But what bothers me is the American left refuses to admit it. They have a catechism that America has not been a force for good in the world and they have a political correctness that they're not going to call anybody out because, after all, we don't want to offend anybody.
As a result of that, if you talk about American patriotism, there's something wrong with you. If their idea that the United States pollutes the planet, we have inequality of wealth, we're evil, we start wars. If somehow the United States leads from behind, takes a couple of steps back, the rest of the world comes forward in this kind of Kumbaya, happy global community. What's happened, though, we've seen what's happened when we step behind. China rising trying to grab the South China Sea, Russia doing the same thing, Iran doing the same thing, and radical Islam exploding.
HANNITY: It seems to be the modern evil in our time. Imam, I'll give you one more chance. Is there such a thing as radical Islam, yes or no?
ELAHI: They are not Muslim. They are not Islamic.
HANNITY: They're not, when they kill in the name of Allah?
ELAHI: Look at 90 people --
HANNITY: And they're promised 72 virgins in heaven?
ELAHI: Their victims are Muslims.
HANNITY: What does "Allahu Akbar" mean?
ELAHI: I don't care if they do it in the name of Jesus, they do it in the name of Moses, they are the same criminals. Look at the radicals in West Bank.
(CROSSTALK)
HANNITY: What's the name of that group? Can you name that group?
ELAHI: What about those who burn babies in the West Bank?
HANNITY: We've got to run. Thank you for being with us.
Coming up, Hillary Clinton claims she is a champion for women, but can her supporters actually name the things she's done to back that up? We have incredible video you don't want to miss coming up next.
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HANNITY: Welcome back to this special edition of "Hannity: Trump Versus the American Left." And Hillary Clinton claims she's a champion for women. Really? Watch this.
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CLINTON: The other day, Mr. Trump accused me of playing the quote, "woman card."
(BOOS)
CLINTON: If fighting for women's health care and paid family leave and equal pay is playing the woman card, then deal me in.
(APPLAUSE)
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HANNITY: She forget about smearing and besmirching and mischaracterizing all those women that came out against Bill. But anyway, she made those comments, but we sent David Webb to a Clinton rally to ask supporters to name one thing Hillary has done for women, just one. Watch.
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DAVID WEBB, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: What has Hillary Clinton done for women?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, she really supports women. I mean, from before the 1990s.
WEBB: But what has she actually done?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She's represented them well.
WEBB: What has she done for women?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's been an example of what women can achieve.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We women look at Hillary and we see ourselves. We don't see a man telling us what we can do, what we have done, what we can do.
WEBB: What has she done for women?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What she said.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's made women know that they can do anything they want to do and go into any field they want to go into. They're just as strong as men.
WEBB: What has she done for women?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Look at her record.
WEBB: Can you give some things?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't have any things for you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's broken the glass ceiling and she wants all women to do the same thing.
WEBB: Can you tell me what Hillary Clinton has done for women?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm not ready to do that.
(LAUGHTER)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: So sad. Here is reaction, radio talk show host, television host Dr. Gina Loudoun, and Fox News contributor Eboni Williams. They can't answer.
EBONI WILLIAMS, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: No. They can't.
HANNITY: She pays men at the Clinton Foundation, what, 38 cents more an hour than --
WILLIAMS: Sean, it's sad.
HANNITY: It's 38 percent more.
WILLIAMS: It doesn't give me any joy to say it because, here's the issue, right. She's been in such proximity to power, we're talking 30 plus years, very close to the top of the food chain of this country, and many women and men struggle to articulate one policy thing she's done to advance the causes of women. And women are no different than anyone else, you guys. As a part of the electorate they want something in return for their voter royalty and many feel like they're not getting in with Hillary Clinton.
DR. GINA LOUDON, PSYCHOLOGY EXPERT AND RADIO HOST: Women are concerned about the same things men are concerned about. I wrote a whole book about this. They're concerned about economic security. They're concerned about national security. I'll tell you, Sean, what Hillary Clinton has done for women. And that is that she has danced on the sexual assault of women that her own husband --
HANNITY: Is that going to resonate? I'll make sure by the time Election Day gets here that everyone understands about the Clinton women. I have my little plans. I'll make sure they know. Will young women be offended by that when they learn what we all know?
LOUDON: Of course they'll be offended. They don't know because they weren't around then, but when made aware of this, statistically if you watch the polling on this, statistically it does matter to them. It's not just that Bill Clinton did it and that she stood idly by and that she intimidated them and they paid Paula Jones $850,000. It's not just those things. It's that she's still -- why is she still today --
HANNITY: Eboni, is that going to resonate?
WILLIAMS: I don't know if it will because a lot of young women feel like I wasn't there for that. But I would advise the Clinton camp this if I was working for her. You've got to make your case. It's no more right to say you're good for women because you're a woman than it is good for a black candidate to say I'm good for blacks because I'm black or I'm good for Latinos because I'm Latino.
HANNITY: I'm good for Irish people. I'm Irish
WILLIAMS: Of course, No, but seriously --
HANNITY: I have great recommendations for eating. Seven course meal -- a six pack and a potato.
WILLIAMS: You're good for America, Sean.
HANNITY: By the way, if I wasn't Irish, I couldn't even say that joke. That's how politically correct this society is. But it's funny.
WILLIAMS: It's funny. But it really bothers I want Hillary Clinton, I want every candidate to earn every vote. And you can't just say because I represent you, you should vote for me.
HANNITY: I've got to end things here. Great piece, great job. Thank you.
WILLIAMS: Thank you, Sean.
HANNITY: That's all the time we have left this evening. Thanks for being with us. Have a great night.
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