Should Hefty Passengers Pay More to Fly?

This is a rush transcript from "Your World With Neil Cavuto," February 15, 2010. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

ERIC BOLLING, GUEST HOST: Michael Karolchyk says Southwest is absolutely right. He runs the Anti-Gym fitness club on the West Coast.

What about it, sir? You are siding with the airline here, and, you know, if you are fat, you should know it, and you should have to pay more, right?

MICHAEL KAROLCHYK, OWNER, THE ANTI-GYM: I absolutely am, Eric.

And you know what? Brandon keeps using that word discriminate, like fat people are some victim class. Where does he come up with that? No one made Mr. Smith, you know, have 100 too many burgers or 100 too many pizzas.

You know, if you're too large, you are taking up my space and invading my territory and taking away my rights. The pilot might have offended Mr. Smith, but there's two people that went like this. Eureka. Thank you, Mr. Pilot. I don't have my whole airline now being — trip being ruined by someone who sweating on top of me, taking all my area.

And you know what? That's what this is about. This is a business show, obviously, Eric, and we know for a fact that Mr. Brandon's solutions are ridiculous. If they want the seats double the size for people that are too lazy, the people that stuff their face and don't have discipline, than you and I and all the other people that take care of our bodies and have discipline have to pay double the price. I mean, that is ridiculous.

BOLLING: Well, let me ask you. So, let's take it one step further. Should there be a train, the sidewalk, should people, heavy people, fat people have pay more to walk on sidewalk, take a train?

KAROLCHYK: Well, you know what? Here is the thing.

If — Eric, the analogy is, everybody is paying to go on the sidewalk and they're taking up double the space, and there's a price for that? Absolutely. It's, you know, product in demand. And that's where they're going.

And you and I both know there are studies that show that the cost of fuel is almost 30 percent more in terms of fuel being used because of the obesity problem with airlines. So, we're not even charging them for that.

It's very simple. If you're too large, if you're...

(CROSSTALK)

BOLLING: Well, Michael, here is the only problem with that argument.

Southwest is very proud to tell everyone that they don't charge you for extra baggage. That's more weight going on the airplane. I'm sitting next to a guy with six bags, I'm paying more for his fuel, right?

KAROLCHYK: True. Yes. But I don't think they give you six bags. I think it's only two bags that they allow to have, Southwest.

BOLLING: So, two bags.

KAROLCHYK: OK.

BOLLING: No, but the point being, you can't give me the weight analogy, because there will be people who bring more weight on the airplane. And I'm paying — if I don't — if I bring a carry-on, I'm paying for that fuel.

KAROLCHYK: Eric, you tell me right now. You look at my eyes and tell me that, when you are on the airplane, and you see a 400 to 500-pound person walking down the aisle, that you are not like, please don't sit next to me. Please don't sit next to me.

And here's the reason why. If they didn't buy two seats, your experience has been destroyed. And you are also putting that passenger in a very precarious situation. We didn't it even address the safety issue.

The bottom line is, this gentleman, Mr. Smith, was going to take the aisle seat. So, God forbid if something happens with the plane, it goes down, even now with terrorists trying to get up and do something. You can't get out. You can't even go to the restroom, because this gentleman can barely get out of his seat.

BOLLING: All right.

KAROLCHYK: There is a reason.

BOLLING: Michael, what about the — what about the last — Mr. Brandon Macsata's suggestion of taking one or two rows and making them just a little bit wider? Is that such a bad thing?

KAROLCHYK: You know what? Here's the problem with this, Eric.

Where have we come in this country where that — we have men that — like Mr. Smith and all these other people that are going to be boycott Southwest for standing up and doing the right thing?

If you eat too much pie, maybe you are going to have pay more to fly.

BOLLING: All right.

KAROLCHYK: And you know what? And they can get all angry and upset, but the bottom line is this. You are not a victim if you are large. You made that decision. You can do something about it tomorrow.

BOLLING: Oh, you're going to hear it tonight. You are going to hear it.

Mr. Michael Karolchyk, thank you very much, Anti-Gym owner. Thank you very much.

(LAUGHTER)

KAROLCHYK: Thank you. No chubbies.

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