This is a rush transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," August 19, 2008. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you here to join Sailors Against War?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I think all sailors are against war, but sometimes we have to fight.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Soldiers Against Guns?
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The Don't Ask, Don't Tell brigade?
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ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: That was a clip from the new movie, "An American Carol." The film is not even out in theaters. It's already getting some buzz as the first comedy to take on the American left. Oh, no!
The film targets liberals from Rosie O'Donnell to Michael Moore, and offers a political message clothed in the comedic stylings of "Airplane" director David Zucker. The movie hits theaters October 3.
Joining us now is the director, producer, and co-writer of "An American Carol," David Zucker.
David, welcome back to the show. I was a big fan, by the way, of "Kentucky Fried Movie," but that was back when you were a liberal, right?
DAVID ZUCKER, FILM WRITER AND DIRECTOR: And did "R"-rated movies. But that was — that was way back. I was a liberal. Hell, I voted for Gore. I'm very — I'm very recent.
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COLMES: And your brother Jerry is a liberal, right? I mean, you know, it's like the family is...
ZUCKER: Yes, and he's appalled at what's happened to me.
COLMES: What happened? What did happen to you? How did this happen?
ZUCKER: Well, you know, I've been listening to talk radio too much, I guess, and you know, you guys have been working on me, you know, you, Dennis Prager...
COLMES: No, no, you're talking to — I'm Colmes. I've got a talk radio show on the progressive stations.
ZUCKER: I thought you were on the — anyway.
COLMES: I'm on KGL in Los Angeles where you are.
But OK. So this particular — now this film actually — that's actually kind of funny. You've got Michael Malone who, I guess, is the Michael Moore character, correct?
ZUCKER: Yes. Yes.
COLMES: And he's got — he joins an organization, MoveAlong.org.
ZUCKER: Right. From MoveOn.
COLMES: And they want to do away with the Fourth of July, which all of us liberals, of course, hate America and hate the Fourth of July, right?
ZUCKER: Well, that was more done to go along with the whole "Christmas Carol," Dickens, with — he had to say "bah humbug" to Christmas. So our guy says "bah humbug" to the Fourth of July.
COLMES: Very interesting. Now, you — you've talked about the difficulty conservatives have in Hollywood. I hear, you know, Gary Sinise says this. And Kelsey Grammer. And Jon Voight. And yet, there were all these Hollywood conservatives always complaining that there are no conservatives in Hollywood.
ZUCKER: Well, you know, it's just a real minority. I mean, there's - - you know, I had lunch today with a far-left blogger for the Huffington Post, as it happened. And I said, well, there's — you know, there's only 5 percent of Republicans in Hollywood.
And he said, "No, no," like I was crazy.
And I said, "Well, 10 percent."
And he said OK. But it's a definite minority.
COLMES: But didn't the Hollywood actor become a governor who happens to fashion himself as a Republican?
ZUCKER: Well, you can always cite this anecdotal information, you know. Like they can always say, well, Timothy McVeigh was a bomber. And that should equate with, you know, all the thousands of people, you know, killed by the Islamic terrorism.
SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Hey, David, it's Sean Hannity.
ZUCKER: HI, Sean.
HANNITY: This isn't the movie that you guys asked me to be in, is it?
ZUCKER: It is. This is the same one.
HANNITY: This is the same one?
ZUCKER: And you got — I don't know what happened, but we couldn't, you know — what does it take to get you in one of these movies?
HANNITY: You know what? I have a pretty busy work schedule, so I — I'm not sure if I'd want to go to a movie and see me on a big screen. I look bad enough on the small screen. But...
ZUCKER: I think it's that you don't want to stick your neck out as a Republican. You're just like all these other Hollywood...
HANNITY: Oh, yes, I'm really hiding in the closet, you know, on my political views. Nobody can really know where I stand on these — the issue.
ZUCKER: Why don't you come out here?
HANNITY: Why don't I come out?
I want to pick up, though, on Alan's theme. First of all, you know, liberals are so angry. One of the reasons most liberal hosts fail in radio, they have zero sense of humor. You know, everything is doctrinaire. They're so angry. It's like, Bush, Bush. But it's like there's Bush Derangement Syndrome.
And you know, I kind of enjoy making fun of Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton, and you know, I enjoy making fun of Al Gore. I really have a good time, although this is — these are serious times with Barack Obama. Do you find that, you know, the Hollywood political left is as angry as I do?
ZUCKER: I actually do, and they're all — all my friends are liberals, and some of them are just more angry than others. But sometimes, like, I'll send them — I'll e-mail them an article that I think, "Hey, this makes sense. It's Charles Krauthammer, and he's talking on this subject. This will convince you."
And then I get back — this is from a relative of mine. "Charles Krauthammer is a nut case," and so it's like all debate is gone. That's kind of — I do get an angry response.
ZUCKER: And I think they think we're bad people, although I don't mean to, you know — you know, overstate this or be a victim or anything. But I do think that Republicans just think Democrats are wrong, and I think a lot of — this isn't everybody, but I think a lot of Democrats, you know, just think that we're bad or, you know — that's...
HANNITY: I think — I think they think we're evil. You know, I mean, if you read, you know, the things — it's funny because there is this double standard out there in both radio and television.
You know, if I were to say on my 530 radio stations or right here on the FOX News Channel half the stuff that liberals say about me, lies told on a regular basis — and I don't really pay attention to it because I don't care — I would be probably thrown off the air, targeted for boycotts.
It's like this is how they let the liberals — they say they like free speech, but they want to silence anybody, Fairness Doctrine included. Anybody they disagree with.
ZUCKER: You know, I think you're right about the Fairness Doctrine is a very dangerous thing. It's one of the reasons why I want McCain to get in, but I just think that, you know, it's such a minority in Hollywood that they're just — I mean, they're just shocked to see that I'm — I've become a Republican. And then that I'm actually admitting it. And I don't think — certainly, for this election — I don't think McCain is that far right.
COLMES: You know what's really amazing?
HANNITY: What's really amazing?
COLMES: Thank you for asking, Sean.
HANNITY: I'm just dying to find out.
COLMES: I almost called you Jerry. I get you mixed up. But it's really amazing...
ZUCKER: In fact, Jerry is just — Jerry wants me to make it clear that I speak for only myself, not — not Jerry.
COLMES: It's funny how conservatives who have had how many — 20 of the 28 — last 28 years of the presidency and a number, the last — you know, 12 of the last 18 years or so of the House and Senate keep playing the victim, as though you're put upon. When you guys have been running everything in this country, and I would say into the ground for the last number of years.
ZUCKER: But Alan, I'm really not saying that we're a victim. I mean, Hollywood absolutely exists. You know, it's pure capitalism. If "American Carol," which opens on October 3, is a hit, then you know — then everybody will love me. If it isn't, you know, I'll just — I'll have trouble...
COLMES: It will be a hit because it's funny, not because it's left or right. If it's a good film and if it's entertaining, right?
ZUCKER: Absolutely. It's just — you know, it's funny. It's entertaining. I mean, I think so. And it will totally succeed or fail on that basis, and I'm looking forward to it.
COLMES: All right. Thank you very much.
HANNITY: Appreciate you being with us, David. Thanks very much.
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