• With: Sen. Ted Cruz

    This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," October 23, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

    GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX HOST: This is a FOX News alert. A seismic shift in ObamaCare sentiment on Capitol Hill. Now several Democratic lawmakers, President Obama's health care allies, are calling for heads to roll.

    But that's not all. Also breaking tonight, Democrats up for re- election in 2014 are scrambling to find solutions to the problem of that crumbling website, including many of them calling for the extension of the enrollment period.

    But there is more stunning news tonight. Some Democrats even calling for a delay of the individual mandate.

    Moments ago, we spoke with Senator Ted Cruz.

    (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

    VAN SUSTEREN: Senator, nice to see you, sir.

    SEN. TED CRUZ, R-TEXAS: Greta, it's always nice to be with you.

    VAN SUSTEREN: A lot of big news today Democrats having a different sentiment towards ObamaCare. At least a lot of them are calling for extension in enrollment period. Two Democrats have called for individual mandate to be extended one year or delayed one year. I imagine you are watching this with some sort of sense of -- what?

    CRUZ: Well, look, it's clear this thing isn't working. And it's becoming harder and harder for Democrats to defend. During the last two months, as we have been debating ObamaCare, very few have tried to debate it on the substance. And I think the American people are seeing it's not working. You have got the disasters with the website. But more broadly, you have got the impacts that are happening with jobs. It's the biggest job killer in the country. It's forcing people to part time work.

    VAN SUSTEREN: We haven't gotten to that. Whether you are right or wrong we haven't even gotten to that point. We are sort of at the implementation period. It seems to be the core part of it is, you know, if the website is a dud, that sort of puts, you know, the brakes on.

    CRUZ: One of the reasons the website is a dud is the directions the administration gave the programmers, was that they wanted to set it up where people couldn't see the prices until they had entered all of their personal information because they wanted to put the subsidies in to avoid sticker shock. So, you and are used to, if we want to go search for a plane we go on Orbits or what have you, we enter it in and see the prices immediately. These things are designed so you can't get the information until you put your personal and private information in it. That's one of the many problems these websites have.

    VAN SUSTEREN: What do you think the president is thinking tonight about it?

    CRUZ: You know, he has, so far, shown no willingness to compromise whatsoever. I mean, the pattern we have seen. He grants exemptions to his friends, his cronies. He grants exemptions to big business. He grants exemptions to members of Congress. I am convinced that it is likely, before the end of his term, he plans to grant an exemption to the unions. He hasn't done that yet, but I think that is their intention.

    VAN SUSTEREN: What do you predict is going to happen in light of -- there now seems to be a rather big shift in how many Democrats looking at it. Many, of course, are up for re-election.

    CRUZ: I think we are seeing momentum. It's ironic. All the people a few weeks ago saying there is no way you can win this fight. There is no way to stop ObamaCare. And they also said there is no way any Ds are going to flip. We are starting to see Democrats flip as this thing -- it's a train wreck. It's not working. And, in any political fight, when the truth is on your side, you are in a good situation. Here the truth is this thing isn't working.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Well, I know that here in the Senate you have had some of the Republicans, even your own Republican colleagues, aren't real wild about the strategy deployed. You were in Texas. You got a warm reception down there.

    CRUZ: It was breathtaking. It was really good to be home. We had rallies throughout the state. We had rallies in San Antonio and Houston and up in Dallas and it was incredible.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Do you ever feel like sort of a loner on this?

    CRUZ: Not remotely. Because I am doing my best to stand with the 26 million Texans who sent me here. To be honest, if given the choice between having the appreciation of Washington and being reviled in Texas or having the appreciation of Texas and being reviled in Washington, I will pick the latter 100 out of 100 times.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Do you think you are reviled here?

    CRUZ: In some quarters. But at the end of the day -- I don't work for the party bosses in this town. The people I work for are the 26 million Texans. The reaction at home, I can't tell you how many people said thank you. Thank you for listening to us and not everyone in Washington. And I think the key to our fiscal and economic challenges, the key to bringing back jobs and economic growth is we have got to get more elected officials in Washington listening to the people and not listening to the party powers and the bosses here in Washington.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Senator, nice to see you. Always nice to see you. Welcome back to Washington, by the way.

    CRUZ: It's great to be back. And fortunately, I'm flying back to Texas in the morning.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Nice to see you, sir.

    CRUZ: Take care.

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