• With: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

    And for a while, I have to tell you, when I came into office, there were too many countries that were turning a blind eye to it.

    We have worked very hard to get the international community, particularly the region, Europe and elsewhere, to say wait a minute, these guys need to be stopped on the terrorism front. They cannot be permitted to go forward.

    You know, when we found out about the plot to kill the, uh, ambassador from Saudi Arabia --

    VAN SUSTEREN: Here in Washington.

    CLINTON: -- here in Washington, you know, there was disbelief on the part of a lot of countries. And we produced evidence. This man pled guilty. No one should have any doubt that in addition to the nuclear threat, which I agree with Dr. Kissinger, is a potential turning point in history, not only because of what it would mean to Iran's attempts to intimidate their neighbors, but the arms race that it would instigate. But we have to also keep an eye on stopping them from their terrorism.

    VAN SUSTEREN: How did they get the money to do this? If we have sanctions on them and if they're behind supplying weapons or as the Yemen boat that was picked up the other day and behind Hezbollah and Hamas, where are they getting the money? Is it from Russia or does it help to fund these terrorists?

    CLINTON: Well, they are a rich country. They have a lot of economic wealth and strength that has been built up over many years. These sanctions are truly biting, but there are outlier countries that still, uh, try to evade the efforts that we all have made to make it as difficult as possible to do business with them.

    And we've shut down a lot of financial institutions. We have changed the behaviors of a lot of governments and others who thought they could get away with it. You know, but there are still, you know, rogue nations. There are still countries that are totally dependent upon Iranian, uh, resources.

    So I think we've done a very, uh, credible job of toughening and tightening the sanctions. But there's more to come. We'll be issuing more sanctions, identifying more people.

    But ultimately, what we want to see is Iran come to the negotiating table and the P5-plus-1 format and basically say they're, you know, going to have the most open, uh, inspections, they're not pursuing nuclear weapons. They claim that they're not. You know, they keep referring to the religious fatwa that, uh, the supreme leader issued, that they're not pursuing nuclear weapons --

    VAN SUSTEREN: You don't believe that.

    CLINTON: Well, you know, I'm from the trust-but-verify camp when it comes to Iran. You know, this is what they say. They continue to say it. But we have a body of evidence that points in the other direction. I mean if that is true, then why are they developing a missile program that has intercontinental ballistic capacity? You know, why are they adding centrifuges and more enrich uranium as a result?

    So, you know, they owe the international community, not just the United States, they owe the Security Council of the United Nations, they owe the International Atomic Energy Agency, they own the -- owe the EU and many others an explanation as to what it they're doing if they claim they're not pursuing nuclear weapons.


    VAN SUSTEREN: And we have much more with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Coming up, the deadly 9/11 terror attack at our Benghazi consulate. Should Americans now be worried about security at all our embassies overseas and consulates, or is something being done now to address the real and present dangers? Secretary Clinton answers that question.


    VAN SUSTEREN: Now more with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.


    VAN SUSTEREN: All right, a two part question on Benghazi. Number one is in light of what's happened, can Americans now feel safe or satisfied that we are moving to secure all our consulates and embassies for our diplomats overseas? That's the first thing. The second thing is, so do we go back to Benghazi?

    CLINTON: Well, as to the first question, you know, the accountability review board made a set of recommendations. We are embracing and implementing all of them, and making sure that we apply them.

    Now, it's not all a question of money. I am the first to say that. You know, you have to have the right people and the right job, making the right decisions. But money is a factor. And ever since the Bush administration, our requests for security monies from Congress have not been met. So you've had to make priority decisions. And it's been difficult.

    So I am determined to leave the State Department safer and stronger when I walk out the door. And I know that John Kerry will just pick up the ball and run with it.

    With respect to do we go back, you know, let me explain why we're there. This was the heart of the Libyan revolution. We knew that there were dangerous people, uh, in and around Benghazi. We also knew that there were a lot of loose weapons. And part of what we were doing there was trying to get leads on recovering those loose weapons. And we knew that there were smuggling routes that could go into Egypt, into Sinai, threaten Israel.

    So there were very important reasons why we were there, not just the State Department, but other government agencies. Whether or when we go back will depend upon the security situation, and what kind of, you know, security support diplomats would have.

    But I hasten to add, Greta, that, you know, I -- I have dangerous posts all over the world. We have people in incredibly, uh, high threat environments.

    VAN SUSTEREN: I've seen some of them.

    CLINTON: You have seen some of them. And they're there because we believe there being there is in America's national interests, particularly our security interests.

    VAN SUSTEREN: What about the women of Afghanistan? What can they expect as we leave?

    CLINTON: Well, they're going to, uh, have to be given, uh, support from their own government and people, as well as the international community.

    VAN SUSTEREN: It's grim for them.

    CLINTON: For a lot of women, life is much better. Girls are in school who never were before. Women are able to practice their professions and pursue their businesses. So for an increasing group of Afghan women, life is better. Still, there are all kinds of discrimination and difficulties. But for a large group of rural women, life has not changed very much.

    And what I worry about is that the security situation will keep a total lid on the aspirations and education of the rural women and begin to, uh, intimidate and drive out of the public space, uh, women who have seen their lives improve.

    And I think it's incumbent upon us and all the nations that have been in Afghanistan to do everything we can to, uh, prevent that from happening.

    VAN SUSTEREN: I'm getting a time signal, but I'm going to go over and probably get in trouble with your staff. But --


    VAN SUSTEREN: -- you know, we always see a secretary of state, we've seen your very public role. And I know the last four years has been a real high. And Chelsea Clinton got married during the last four years, but also your biggest supporter, your biggest fan, Dorothy Rodham, your mother, who was a big role model to you, and all of us in Washington who knew her, she was a real character, she died during these four years.

    CLINTON: Yes.

    VAN SUSTEREN: So there's highs and lows.

    CLINTON: There are. And, you know, my mother really enjoyed the company of you and your husband. And she was, at the age of, you know, 90 plus, so vital, so interested in people. She taught me so many lessons and I miss her every day, because I was fortunate that she was living with us here in Washington. So I got to see her, you know, every night I could come home or when I came back from a trip. And she was always so interested in what we were doing and what I had seen. I was lucky to have her for so long.

    VAN SUSTEREN: She was a character.