• With: Joe Concha, Jim Pinkerton, Judy Miller, Ellen Ratner, Richard Grenell

    This is a rush transcript from "Fox News Watch," June 29, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.


    JON SCOTT, HOST: On "Fox News Watch."

    PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: I'm not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker.

    SCOTT: The president displays his hands-off attitude regarding Edward Snowden, the man wanted for espionage charged with stealing U.S. secrets. The story getting major media attention, but is it enough?

    DAVID GREGORY, NBC NEWS ANCHOR: Why shouldn't you, Mr. Greenwald, be charged with a crime?

    SCOTT: Media takes shots at Glenn Greenwald. The journalist who reported the NSA secrets. Is he a fair target for the press? Or is there an agenda at work?

    UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A monumental decision by the Supreme Court.

    SCOTT: Big news from the highest court. The media reacts to key decisions on voting rights and then gay marriage.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you haven't been to a gay bar, you have to go to one ...

    PAULA DEEN: I is what I is.

    SCOTT: Celebrity chef Paula Deen fights accusations of being a racist. Are the media behind the smear?

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Knock, knock. Who is there?

    SCOTT: The George Zimmerman murder trail gets off to a questionable start. Then gets more interesting. The media go wall to wall with the coverage. But is all the attention adding to a racial divide?

    And a tip on how to protect yourself from government spying.


    SCOTT: On the panel this week, writer and Fox News contributor Judy Miller. Mediaite columnist Joe Concha, Jim Pinkerton, contributing editor of the American Conservative Magazine, Ellen Ratner, talk radio news service bureau chief. And Fox News contributor Richard Grenell. I'm Jon Scott. "Fox News Watch" is on right now.


    DAVID GREGORY, NBC NEWS: To the extent that you have aided and abetted Snowden, and even in his current movements, why shouldn't you, Mr. Greenwald, be charged with a crime?

    GLENN GREENWALD, THE GUARDIAN: I think it's pretty extraordinary that anybody who would call themselves a journalist would publicly muse about whether or not other journalists should be charged with felony. The assumption in your question, David, is completely without evidence, the idea that I've aided and abetted him in any way. This scandal that arose in Washington before our stories began was about the fact that the Obama administration is trying to criminalize investigative journalism by going through the emails and phone records of AP reporters, accusing a Fox News journalist, the theory that you just embraced, being a co-conspirator with felonies, for working with sources.


    SCOTT: NBC's David Gregory seemed not quite ready for Glenn Greenwald's answer to that question about his reporting on NSA's spying. Greenwald didn't stop there. After the program, he tweeted this. "Who needs the government to try to criminalize journalism when you have David Gregory to do it?" Journalist Frank Rich came to Greenwald's defense with this. "Is David Gregory a journalist? As a thought experiment, name one piece of news he has broken, one beat he's covered with distinction, and any memorable interviews he has conducted. His charge is preposterous. As a columnist who published Edward Snowden's leaks, Greenwald was doing the job of a journalist and the fact that he is an activist journalist is irrelevant to that journalistic function."

    So, Jim, when you think about Greenwald's line of questioning or Gregory's line of questioning Greenwald, was it out of line?

    JIM PINKERTON, THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE MAGAZINE: I think the question did have -- when did you stop beating your wife, tone to it. But look, whatever you think of Greenwald ideologically, he definitely merits now a place in the talking head hall of fame for the greatest smackdown of a questioner since Joe Louis knocked out Max Schmeling in back in the '30s.

    SCOTT: Lots of nodding heads on the panel, I might add.


    SCOTT: All right, Judy is one of them.

    MILLER: Nodding because -- this is what this fight has been all about. That is the effort by some people who want to go after leakers to criminalize them and criminalize us for helping them. So, by formulating the question in the way that he did, he played right into the hands of the government. Glenn Greenwald is an advocacy journalist. That does not mean he is not a journalist. And you can do more than say -- the gray house is on the street. And be a journalist.

    JOE CONCHA, MEDIAITE.COM COLUMNIST: If I'm a producer, an executive producer, I run a network. I want Glenn Greenwald exclusively. If I'm CNN, Fox ...


    CONCHA: ... MSNBC, sign this guy now. He has got three things that every producer, every anchor like you loves. He is candid, all right. He is conversational. And he is confrontational. So for him to land a kidney punch, like he did with David Gregory and then for Frank Rich, who wasn't going to be invite to CPAC anytime soon, you know, laying that right cloth later in the week. It was a bad week for the host of "Meet the Press."

    SCOTT: You can add quick. He is quick, too.

    ELLEN RATNER, BUREAU CHIEF OF TALK RADIO NEWS SERVICE: Well, you know, and he didn't stop there. He was interviewed by Erik Wemple of The Washington Post and he went after a CNBC's Andrew Sorkin, he is saying he called the beltway establishment media click. I mean he did not stop. It's gift that keeps giving.

    SCOTT: Rick, Greenwald has been accused of carrying water for President Obama. There was a big piece in the New York Daily News that looked into his, you know, history, his financial affairs. Tax problems, that kind of thing. Why has he become the story here?

    RICHARD GRENELL, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I think it is true. I think he is a big apologist for Obama. But, you know, I can comfortably and I think a lot of people can comfortably defend what Greenwald is doing, which is acting like a real journalist, bifurcating him from Snowden who clearly committed a crime. And so I wouldn't want to go after Greenwald. I want to go after Snowden. You know, exactly what Glenn said to David Gregory, it really applies to Jake Tapper and all of these other media types. It's an entrenched system in Washington where you have to ask permission to do things. Really, what they were saying is how dare you leak to an unapproved journalist because we are approved.

    SCOTT: Yeah. And my producer points out -- I meant to say, Gregory has been accused of carrying water for the Obama administration. Not ...

    MILLER: Right. But all this has done is changed the subject. We are not talking about the leaks and the implications of the leaks.

    SCOTT: So, Greenwald also tweeted this. "Has David Gregory ever publicly wondered if powerful D.C. officials should be prosecuted for things like illegal spying and lying to Congress?" And it is a valid question.

    PINKERTON: Right. And it is worth noting, again, that -- how the conversations carrying on for a week now on Twitter. I mean this is - this is now the -- the -- battlefield and -- Greenwald not only clocked Gregory on the show, but is continuing to win in the Twitter-sphere. Twitter- sphere.