Being asked to leave a plane before your flight certainly is dramatic. Having the police waiting for you after a flight might even get you on the news.

But there’s a select few in-flight misbehavers whose actions are so egregious, so over-the-top, that airlines have deployed the nuclear option against them: a ban for life.

This is different from government no-fly lists designed to weed out potential terrorists. No, this is the case of a particular airline saying to particularly ill-behaved (and sometimes dangerous) passengers: “You’ve crossed a line, buddy, and you won’t never step foot on one of our planes again.” Celebrities like Snoop Dogg, Liam Gallagher, and Jonathan Rhys Meyers are rumored members of the “Banned For Life” airline club.

“If you’ve been bad you can get on one of these lists,” says author and travel writer Christopher Elliott, noting that car rental companies and hotels also issue lifetime bans in extreme circumstances. “It’s not something that the companies really like to talk about.”

That’s for sure. Yahoo Travel reached out to several airlines to ask about their “banned for life” policies and they responded with answers so vague and evasive, one would have thought they were asked about Area 51. “We don’t discuss our security procedures, which are in place to protect our customers and crew members,” was one airline’s answer in a statement that resembled most of the others. Given the airlines’ omertà regarding lifetime bans, it’s probably not surprising that they rarely publicly reveal who ends up on that blacklist (although sometimes they will if they’re really mad at the person they’ve banned).

The industry trade group Airlines for America did somewhat confirm the practice of lifetime bans: “Airlines implement these measures through their reservation systems,” a spokesperson told Yahoo Travel in an email. “Restricted travel is at the discretion of each individual airline if it is in the best interest of their customers and crew members in terms of safety and security. Because safety and security are always our highest priority, carriers can and will enforce measures to keep our customers and employees protected.”

So it seems that, yes, airlines do issue lifetime bans and reportedly have dropped that hammer on some bad, bad fliers — some famous, some infamous.