• With: Alan Simpson, former National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform co-chair


    CAVUTO: Does that really eat away at you?

    SIMPSON: Oh, I’ll tell you, I can’t tell you what they must be doing in the offices of the AARP, scrunched down behind the desks, because the Social Security trustees -- these are Republicans and Democrats of high regard, Cabinet people, laymen -- they said that the drop dead date, which was always 2036...

    CAVUTO: Right. Right.

    SIMPSON: ... until last week, is now going to be 2033, and I haven’t heard a peep out of the AARP. These guys are fake. I mean, they’re monsters. They’re monsters.

    CAVUTO: So what is it that keeps them around? They just kowtow to groups that don’t like...


    CAVUTO: Because the one thing I have noticed about the AARP is, since I crossed a certain threshold, I get a card mailed to me. And I don’t want the card.


    CAVUTO: And then I get another card. I don’t want that card.

    I get another card. Who makes their cards? Because whoever does that is the guy you want doing what you want them to do, because that dude is very productive.

    SIMPSON: It’s like when I was in the Army. We always looked for the bugler.



    SIMPSON: We could give him...

    CAVUTO: He’s always on time.

    SIMPSON: We were -- but let me tell you, the AARP, I had a hearing on those cats when I was in the Senate.


    CAVUTO: They hate you, Alan. They hate you. They think you are not only the death of the AARP, but of everyone over 50 years old in this country.

    SIMPSON: That’s right.

    And I’ll tell you one thing. They are the most -- they’re only a bunch of marketers. Get their publication. I mean, really, they took out the big full-page ad about sex. I think I got and it looked like some dyed white-haired cat pouncing on some gal on a ladder.

    They’ve taken that ad out, but they still have the erectile dysfunction ads and all the rest of the stuff in there. It’s a beautiful magazine. It’s about how to get any kind of implement and charge it to Medicare or Medicaid, and we will take care of that for you. What a bunch of...


    CAVUTO: Are you saying things that like Viagra shouldn’t be paid for by Medicare...


    SIMPSON: Well, certainly. They should be paid for by eager senior citizens who are eager, and that’s the way it should be. Like -- well, I won’t get in to it, but certainly it’s an interesting enhancement.


    CAVUTO: Right. Sure. Well, it’s a way to counter stiff competition.

    SIMPSON: Well, it is.


    CAVUTO: So, finally, I just want to get a sense from you about this late campaign conversion...

    SIMPSON: Yes.

    CAVUTO: Either on the part of the president or Mitt Romney for your work and Erskine’s work. Both men ostensibly say they admire your bravery and your goals. Both have yet to 100 percent support it.

    Could you envision a late conversion on the part of either to your recommendations by Election Day?


    SIMPSON: No, not by Election Day. After Election Day, yes, but not before.


    CAVUTO: Who’s your candidate then? Who’s your candidate?

    SIMPSON: Well, you know, I’m a Republican. I have watched them scrap through there.

    CAVUTO: Right.