• With: Troy Hayden, KSAZ Anchor; OTR Legal Panel (Ted Williams, Bernie Grimm, Jim Hammer)

    This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," May 8, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

    GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: This is a "FOX News Alert." And you are just about to hear from convicted killer Jodi Arias, today an Arizona jury finding Arias guilty of first degree murder. And tonight, Arias is in a fight for her own life. She could now face execution. You will hear from Arias right here in seconds.

    But first, the verdict.


    UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We, the jury, duly empanelled and sworn in the above-entitled action upon our oath do find the defendant as to count one, first degree murder, guilty.


    VAN SUSTEREN: So what is Jodi Arias's reaction to the guilty verdict? KSAZ Fox Phoenix Anchor Troy Hayden asked her, and Troy joins us.

    Troy, first of all, how did you get this interview with Jodi Arias?

    TROY HAYDEN, KSAZ ANCHOR: I worked her pretty hard, Greta, over the last four months. I met her in mid-January. We talked at length at that point and kind of made a connection, as far as a journalist and an inmate could do that.

    And she said that if I did certain things her way and didn't show her on video that night -- we got some video of her -- I said I wouldn't do that. She said, If you don't do that, when the verdict comes in you, can get the interview.

    I don't know if I could believe her or not, but she came through.

    VAN SUSTEREN: What about her lawyers? Did they try to run interference?

    HAYDEN: No, not a word about it. She didn't say a word about it and we didn't ask her. We just plowed through and got the interview. It was down -- just 20 minutes after the verdict, we were down in some holding cells down below the courthouse. It was kind of eerie because there was a lot of people down there. It was very, very quiet.

    Jodi walked out. I shook her hand. I could tell she was upset. She had been weeping. And I said, Are you sure you're ready to do this? And she said yes, and we did it.

    VAN SUSTEREN: What did you think of her, I mean, as you were there? I mean, did any -- any sort of thought? I mean, the woman had just been convicted of first degree murder, now going into a penalty phase, maybe an execution.

    HAYDEN: Right. No, the whole thing makes me sad. ... It's like you said it on your show before. It's just -- you know, Travis Alexander's life is gone. His family's turned upside down. Now Jodi Arias's family is turned upside down. And she's a waste of a life now if she gets the death penalty.

    I think she's ill. I think that she can be very pleasant, as she was when I spoke with her today, but obviously, she has the ability to kill somebody in this horrible, horrible way.

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right, Troy, well, let's -- let's begin to listen to part of your interview. Here is Troy speaking with Jodi Arias.


    HAYDEN: Just a couple minutes ago, you heard the verdict from the jury. What are your thoughts?

    JODI ARIAS, CONVICTED OF MURDER: I think I just went blank. Just -- I don't know. I just feel overwhelmed. I think I just need to take it a day at a time.

    HAYDEN: Was it unexpected, you think, this verdict?

    ARIAS: It was unexpected for me, yes, because there was no premeditation on my part. I can see how things look that way. But I didn't expect the premeditation. I could see maybe the felony murder because of how the law is written, but I didn't -- the whole time, I was fairly confident I wouldn't get premeditation because there was no premeditation.

    HAYDEN: It seemed -- and you got a lot of questions from the jury. It seemed like some of the jurors didn't believe what you were telling them, didn't believe your story. What are your thoughts on that?

    ARIAS: I can understand that, I think, because of what I was -- the lies that I told in the beginning to try to cover up this, cover up that, and hide things that I didn't want to be known, made public.

    HAYDEN: Are you focusing on the core or are you focusing on what could be the worst outcome for you?

    ARIAS: Well, the worst outcome for me would be natural life. I would much rather die sooner than later. Longevity runs in my family, and I don't want to spend the rest of my natural life in one place. You know, I'm pretty healthy. I don't smoke. And I probably would live a long time, so that's not something I'm looking forward to.

    I said years ago that I'd rather get death than life, and that still is true today. I believe death is the ultimate freedom, so I'd rather just have my freedom as soon as I can get it.

    HAYDEN: So you're saying you actually prefer getting the death penalty than being in prison for life.

    ARIAS: Yes.

    HAYDEN: The Alexander family, especially the two sisters and the younger brother -- if you could say something to them, what would you like to say to them?

    ARIAS: I hope that, now that a verdict has been rendered, that they're able to find peace, some sense of peace. I don't think they'll ever find the peace that they would like, but maybe they -- maybe they'll be able to have greater peace now, or some semblance of it, and be able to move on with their lives and remember their brother the way they want to.


    VAN SUSTEREN: Now, we're going to have much more of that interview ahead. But first, Jodi Arias says she would prefer a death sentence to life in prison. Well, will she get her wish?

    Joining us, our legal panel. In San Francisco, former prosecutor Jim Hammer, and here in Washington, defense lawyers Bernie Grimm and Ted Williams. And Troy Hayden is still with us in Phoenix. And the panel can ask Troy questions, if they have them.

    But let me go first to Jim. Jim, she says she would prefer death to natural life. Just a ploy, or do you think this is speaking from the heart?

    JIM HAMMER, FORMER PROSECUTOR: I think she's speaking from the heart. And frankly, I think she gave one of the best arguments against the death penalty. I think -- and having seen people -- if you go to lifer -- life row in San Quentin or other places around the country, they live the rest of their natural lives in a small cell, 8 by 10 feet. They get a little time outside. And they die old people.

    Scott Peterson will never have fans again, never have people visit him. I think it is the worst punishment possible. I sort of hope the jury doesn't give her death and makes her think for the rest of her life about what she's done.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Bernie?