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Mothers of sons killed by illegals weigh in on rape scandal; Ingraham holds Republicans accountable on health reform

Laura Wilkerson and Sabine Durden react to the controversial case on 'Hannity'

 

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," March 21, 2017. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: And welcome to "Hannity." So in just a few minutes, Laura Ingraham, Jay Sekulow, Sheriff David Clarke will a join us, a lot happening tonight in the news, the repeal and replace bill, the Gorsuch confirmation hearings and more fall-out from James Comey's testimony yesterday.

But first, a very important issue that few in the media will ever discuss.  Now, the president remains steadfast in his commandments to fix the illegal immigration crisis in the country. Now, whether it's building a border wall, ending sanctuary cities or the deportation of violent criminal illegal immigrants, any action to restore law and order must be swift because American lives are being lost and are at risk.

Now, it's time to put an end to America's illegal immigration crisis, and it is a crisis, and that is tonight's "Opening Monologue."

All right, so remember from the very first day that Donald Trump announced he was running for president, combating violent crime carried out by illegal immigrants has been one of his top concerns. You may remember when he said this way back in 2015. Take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, JUNE 16, 2015)

DONALD TRUMP, R-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems.

When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. (sic) They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

It's coming from more than Mexico. It's coming from all over South and Latin America, and it's coming probably -- probably from the Middle East.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HANNITY: All right, following those candid remarks, then candidate Donald Trump, remember, he was mocked, he was ridiculed, he was blasted. He was demeaned by the alt-left propaganda destroy Trump press.

Now, here's a small sampling of some of what took place when he said that.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS)

JORGE RAMOS, UNIVISION NEWS ANCHOR, CNN, AUG. 25, 2015: When you say that immigrants from Mexico are criminals and rapists, isn't that spreading hate?

The things that he considers just blunt talk, it is clearly offensive.

ANA MARIA SALAZAR, LATIN AMERICAN POLITICAL ACTIVIST, CNN, JULY 25, 2015: I'm outraged, Michaela.

I can't understand how is it possible that a presidential candidate for the United -- who wants to be president of the United States can speak and use hate language.

FELIZ SANCHEZ, NATIONAL HISPANIC FOUNDATION FOR THE ARTS, MSNBC, JUNE 30, 2015: The natural reaction is to think that he's a clown, let's ignore him.

Say something derogatory to a Latino, and they accept it. That is the disrespect that the Latino community felt. That's what bubbled up in social media.

(END VIDEO CLIPS)

HANNITY: Now, sadly, despite this outrage from the biased press, well, violent crimes that are carried out by illegal immigrants continue to take place, including just last week, when according to reports, two immigrants from Central America, 18-year-old illegal immigrant Henry Sanchez Milian, pictured right there, and 17-year-old Jose Montano, they allegedly brutally raped a 14-year-old girl in a bathroom stall.

Now, this was at a high school in Maryland. Now, despite their age, the pair of alleged rapists were attending high school as 9th graders. They're here illegally, at least one of them.

So this terrible crime is just the latest in a long list of Americans who are victims because of illegal immigration.

Now, during the presidential election, the murder of Kate Steinle became, well, national news. Why? Because in 2015, she was murdered in the sanctuary city of San Francisco by an illegal immigrant who had been deported five times. We're not protecting the American people.

Now, of course, these high- profile incidences, well, it's only the tip of the iceberg. Last year right here on this program, we held a town hall with then-candidate Trump, and we had mothers whose children were killed at the hands of illegal immigrants. Just for a second imagine if this were, God forbid, your child.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS, AUG. 23, 2016)

LAURA WILKERSON, SON KILLED BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT: My son was an integral part of a community, and his life was cut short by a repeat criminal.

SABINE DURDEN, SON KILLED BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS: And as the illegal drove by, he shot into the passenger side. My son was sitting at a red light, waiting for it to turn green. He was less than a mile from his home.

(END VIDEO CLIPS)

HANNITY: Now, for years, right here on this program, we have been raising real concerns about illegal immigration. We've been down to the border numerous times. Back in 2014, remember? I was with Governor Rick Perry down in Texas, and we sat in on a border security briefing. Listen to these crime statistics.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, JULY 10, 2014)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Criminal aliens have been responsible about 642,000 offenses, criminal offenses.

HANNITY: Governor, I've been down to the border eight times now, eight times, and I'm learning things here today that I never knew of, and I like to consider myself pretty informed on this issue. 642,000 crimes in seven years haven't -- that we have brave men and women that are literally using military tactics to fight what they consider to be cartels.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HANNITY: 642,000 crimes committed against Texans alone. Then between 2011 and February 2017, in the state of Texas, well, illegal immigrants were responsible for 1,162 homicide charges, 68,151 assault charges and 6,098 sexual assault charges.

Now, of course, Texas, that's not the only state impacted by criminal illegal immigrants. In 2015, 36.6 percent of all federal sentences were given to illegal aliens, including convictions for drug trafficking, kidnapping, and yes, murder.

Now, what I'm about to tell you, you're not going to hear this in the mainstream media. Between 2013 and 2015, despite the dangers we just showed you, the Obama administration released 86,288 criminal illegal immigrants right back into the general U.S. population.

Now, thankfully, the era of Obama is over. We have a new president, and he has a new attitude. Watch this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, LOUSIVILLE, KY., MARCH 20)

TRUMP: I met with many American families whose loved ones -- sons and daughters, husbands and wives -- were viciously killed by illegal immigrants.

(BOOS)

TRUMP: These American victims and their families were ignored by the media. The media doesn't want to talk about it.

(BOOS)

TRUMP: They don't want to talk about it. They were ignored by the consultants. They were ignored by Washington. But these Americans were not ignored by me. There were not ignored by you. You showed that on November 8th. There were not ignored by you, and they will never be ignored by any of us!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HANNITY: So President Trump is right, was right. We can never forget those whose lives were destroyed by illegal immigrants.

Here now with reaction, Laura Wilkerson. Look at her case, her son, Joshua, brutally beaten and killed by an illegal immigrant in 2010. Also with us, Sabine Durden, her son, Dominic, also killed by a drunk driver in 2012, the driver an illegal immigrant.

Thank you both for joining us again. I appreciate it. You know, we've got a lot of news today. And Laura, I've known you now for some time. And we're going to talk about Neil Gorsuch. We're going to talk about the health care bill, and we're going to talk about all the other news of the day, James Comey.

But I read this story and I thought of you. I thought of the town hall that I did. I thought of the thousands of other parents in your situation.  And this will get no media play, but people will make fun of the president or then candidate Donald Trump.

What do you have to say to those people that have not lived through what you've lived through?

DURDEN: It disgusts me. I'm so disgusted by what I hear about this rape.  This poor child of 14 years old is forever scarred. She will be forever -- live her life here on a different plane. I equate it to like having a stroke and a heart attack at the same time. She's going to have night terrors. She's going to wake up screaming in the middle of the night.  She's going to be right back in that cubicle where they raped her any time of day or night. It's going to live in her brain for the next couple of years. And then if it does...

(CROSSTALK)

HANNITY: And Laura, and think back when Donald Trump came down that escalator, announcing he was going to run for president, and he made those initial comments, some, are rapists, some are murderers, and the brutal, vicious, vile -- That's racist. That's wrong. That's inappropriate -- he wasn't wrong. It's true. There are a lot of good people who cross the border illegally. They just want a better life. I get it. But there are a lot of people that don't belong here.

WILKERSON: He was not wrong. He was right, exactly right about what he said. And I agree with him still today. And you can see this is another case of it.

But I want to tell you that girl is going to do (ph) something for the rest of her life. She will never be the same. And I'm sure the two kids who came over were undocumented children by themselves. You cannot mix the cultures and some of the things together and have it mesh. It's not working. They need to be out. They're criminals for being here in this country in the first place, and they need to be gone.

HANNITY: I see this and I'm thinking nobody is going to talk about it in the mainstream media. You know, I don't know what the coverage was at the time...

DURDEN: No...

HANNITY: Go ahead.

DURDEN: And like Laura said, this young lady is changed forever, her family, her friends. She will never be the same. She will never grow up as she would have without this happening.

And what does it take for people on the left or on the right? Does it take your child in an urn, like my son, my only child? Does it take that for somebody to wake up and get behind our president to stop this insanity with the illegal crossing our borders, harming our citizens? When are we going to come first?

Get behind President Trump...

HANNITY: You're never going to be the same either, are you.

DURDEN: No, never. I won't ever be a grandmother or a mother-in-law. My life completely changed. I moved because I couldn't handle California anymore.

HANNITY: Yes. It's so sad. We lost Laura.

DURDEN: It has to stop!

HANNITY: Thank you, Sabine. Thank you. You're in our prayers. The media needs to start telling the truth instead of...

DURDEN: Yes, they do.

HANNITY: ... putting on one commentator after another that says these outrageous things.

Also here with reaction, author of the best-selling book "Cop Under Fire: Moving Beyond Hashtags of Race, Crime and Politics for a Better America," Milwaukee County sheriff David Clarke.

Sheriff, I've got to imagine as part of your daily job, you have to deal with people that suffer like these parents and probably, there have been those moments you have to tell them, oh, sorry, your son and daughter is dead, sorry they're not alive. What happened? They got killed. And then in the case if it's an illegal immigrant, then you say, why does our government not protect the American people?

DAVID CLARKE, MILWAUKEE COUNTY SHERIFF: Sean, it rips my heart out to listen to those angel moms. And may God comfort them in their time of grief.

Look, this stuff is avoidable, that stuff that angers me. We're talking about some failed policies, these sanctuary cities. We're not asking much.  When I say we, I'm talking about ICE officials. We're talking about this anti-detainer policy that many of these sanctuary cities adhere to, where they will not hang onto individuals until ICE can get the paperwork together and the case together to schedule them for deportation. That's not asking a lot just to hang onto them.

These things are avoidable. I heard about that rape case, that young 14- year-old girl, these subhuman creeps. And the thing that angered me is one of those guys was out awaiting a deportation hearing. That's why I said these anti-detainer policies -- we don't need to change the law. We're not asking local officials -- ICE anyway, is not asking local officials to enforce immigration. They're just talking -- asking them to honor a detainer, a lawful piece of paper that says, Hold onto this individual until we can get the deportation scheduled.

These things are killing communities. They're killing cities. It is a -- obviously, it's become a haven for criminal activity, these sanctuary cities.

HANNITY: How do you...

CLARKE: This is going to come to an end. I thank God every day since the November election that Donald Trump is the president of the United States.  We are going to get our arms around this thing. I've made it clear I'm going to help him. I've made the application to participate in a 287G program. But even before that, up to this time to through the Obama years, when he suspended the 287G, I have still been working with ICE. And when ICE has given me a detainer for the last eight years under Obama, I have honored that detainer.

These guys are career criminals. You put them back out -- you mentioned Kate Steinle -- only to go out and re-victimize other people. I don't know how any law enforcement official or public official or mayor or governor can sit back with a straight face and say our communities are stronger because of illegal immigration.

These two moms that you just talked to, their state failed them. Their local community failed them. But we're going to do everything that we can to make sure that not too many more people have to go through what they're suffering right now.

HANNITY: All right, Sheriff, good to hear your insight on this. Really appreciate it. And then putting aside the trillions of dollars on health care costs, criminal justice system, the educational system, just imagine for one second if that's your son or daughter killed or raped. Mainstream media going to ignore this?

Up next, a very busy news tonight right here on "Hannity." Democrats tried. They failed to trip up Judge Neil Gorsuch at his confirmation hearing today. But that will not stop them from trying. I've got a mini- monologue to explain. Also, we'll get reaction from Leonard Leo, Jay Sekulow.

Also, President Trump went to Capitol Hill this morning to speak with Republican lawmakers about the GOP "Obama care" replacement plan. Laura Ingraham will join us tonight. We'll get her insight, and so much more straight ahead.

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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TRUMP: Judge Neil Gorsuch's hearing is now under way in the Senate, and I urge members of both parties to swiftly approve his nomination. He is an outstanding man from an outstanding family, with an unbelievably wonderful wife. They should approve.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HANNITY: All right, so that was President Trump last night praising Judge Neil Gorsuch, who today faced questions at his Senate confirmation hearing.  Now, it was hard for Democrats to lay a glove on Judge Gorsuch, but that won't stop them from trying to smear, slander and besmirch him. And that is tonight's mini-monologue.

All right, so today, Judge Gorsuch, he took the Democrats' gotcha questions all in stride. He used lot of humor during the grilling. Take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. PATRICK LEAHY, D-VT.: If you were on the court, which side would you have voted with?

NEIL GORSUCH, SUPREME COURT NOMINEE: Senator, I admire the various ways...

(LAUGHTER)

GORSUCH: You really -- you -- you -- I -- I -- you'd be a formidable companion in the courtroom.

LEAHY: I'm just a -- I'm a lawyer from a small town.

GORSUCH: Yes, right. I've heard that story. Whenever a lawyer says, I'm just a lawyer from a small town, watch out. He's about -- last time -- you got to watch your -- you got to watch your wallet because it's gone quickly, in my experience.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HANNITY: All right, so Judge Gorsuch and the Republicans, they better be ready for an all-out brawl because Democrats -- they're going to continue to launch a vicious onslaught of attacks. That's their history. Now, despite the judge's stellar record on the bench, the Democrats are still angry over the election results which led to Gorsuch's nomination.

Now, the left -- they're perfectly willing to use dirty, disgraceful political tactics all to try and derail a Republican Supreme Court nominee.  This is nothing new, and history points this out.

Now, for example, look at Judge Robert Bork. Back in 1987, he was nominated to the Supreme Court by President Ronald Reagan. The Democrats led by Senator Ted Kennedy used scare tactics, smear tactics to destroy the nomination. Take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1987)

SEN. TED KENNEDY, D-MASS.: Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens' doors in midnight raids, and school children could not be taught about evolution.  Writers and artists would be censured at the whim of government.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HANNITY: All right, all smears, all lies. And after Kennedy's stunt on the Senate floor, Democrats, they were able to block the nomination, and that's how we ended up with the term "being Borked."

Now, then there's case of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. During his Senate hearings -- this was back in 1991 -- Democrats rolled out his former colleague, Anita Hill, to make sexual harassment allegations against him. This process was so nasty, Justice Thomas called it a, quote, "high-tech lynching." Watch this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, OCT. 11, 1991)

CLARENCE THOMAS, THEN-SUPREME COURT NOMINEE: This is a circus. It's a national disgrace. And from my standpoint as a black American, as far as I'm concerned, it is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas. And it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HANNITY: All right, Democrats, they proved time and time again they will stoop to new lows to get anything they want. Now, Judge Gorsuch and Republicans, you better be ready for a knock-down, drag-out fight from the left because that's how they roll.

Joining us with reaction, from the American Center for Law and Justice, Jay Sekulow, and one of the people who advised President Trump on his Supreme Court decision, Leonard Leo.

Leonard, let's start with you. You know judge Gorsuch, and I know that Jay argued in front of Judge Gorsuch. He showed a lot of great humor today, great knowledge of the law, a terrific scholar. Clearly, he was approved unanimously back, you know, when he got onto the 10th circuit. I didn't think they laid a glove on him, and I thought he handled it really well today, but I wouldn't expect that's going to be the case by the end of this.

LEONARD LEO, ADVISER TO PRESIDENT TRUMP ON THE SUPREME COURT I agree. You know, if Senate Democrats aren't going to give President Trump 60 votes for Judge Neil Gorsuch, then frankly, Sean, there isn't any Republican Supreme Court nominee they'll ever support because today's performance by Judge Gorsuch was absolutely flawless.

And he stuck to his guns. You know, he understands the proper role of a judge. And he's not going to make commitments or promises to Democrats on all the sacred cow issues that they care about and that they need the courts for. And that's really what today's hearing was all about, him constantly being pressed on those issues.

HANNITY: You know, here's what I expect, Jay. And I've spent a lot of time taking a deep dive in my mind on this. Republicans are way -- they play way too fair -- Elena Kagan, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Justice Sotomayor -- they knew they were going to be left-wing activists on the court. They allowed an up or down vote.

As far as I'm concerned, they might as well just end the filibuster rule anyway now, use the nuclear option, end it, because if Democrats -- you know, if they don't use it on this nominee, they will use it on the next nominee, period, end of sentence. So what's the point? They -- liberals get every justice they want. Republicans cave. So why don't they just now fight the way the Democrats do?

JAY SEKULOW, AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE: Because, you know, here's what happens. I mean, and you're right. The fact is that Republicans will say, I don't agree with this person's judicial philosophy, that's not the question, it's whether they're qualified or not. In a perfect world, that would be wonderful. We don't live in the perfect world.

Two things. One, Judge Gorsuch will be Justice Gorsuch in a few weeks, whether it is the nuclear option or any other device that they have to utilize to get it done. This is someone who showed himself again today not only eminently qualified, as the ABA recognized, but also despite three attempts by Senator Leahy -- three times he tried to get Judge Gorsuch to say how he would rule in the executive order case involving refugee asylums, knowing full well that that case is likely to go before the Supreme Court and before Judge Gorsuch, who would then be Justice Gorsuch.  And the judge was correct in saying, I'm not going to tell you how I'm going to rule in a case.

But that shows you where they wanted to go. They want to know that ruling.  The want to know the decision. But the Republicans are going to have to make sure that this nominee is confirmed, Sean, no matter what has to be utilized, whether it's the nuclear option, which, let's face it, the Democrats have already opened that door. This man is eminently qualified, well qualified.

HANNITY: All right...

SEKULOW: He'll be confirmed. He needs to be.

HANNITY: Leonard, here's my question. Conservatives have been burned time and time again, David Souter, recent example. Judge Roberts, the Chief Justice -- he was a disappointment on "Obama care." Can you -- are you -- can you assure conservatives tonight he is really an originalist like Justice Scalia, like Clarence Thomas?

LEO: Absolutely, Sean. There are a couple of things you can see in Judge Gorsuch's work that makes that clear. First of all, he's participated in over 2,600 cases. He's got over 700 opinions. You see two really important things in his opinions. First, you see a real deep commitment to applying the law as it's written -- text, history and structure. And you see that consistently an opinion after opinion.

But even more importantly than that, Sean, what you see in a lot of his opinions is a real dedication to enforcing the structural limits on government power contained in our Constitution.

HANNITY: All right, guys. Appreciate it. We'll cover any problems as they occur.

Coming up, President Trump -- he went to Capitol Hill this morning to speak with Republican lawmakers about the GOP "Obama care" replacement plan.  Laura Ingraham joins us with reaction. That's next.

Also tonight, Colonel Oliver North is here as we continue on this busy news night straight ahead.

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ANITA VOGEL, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Live from America's news headquarters I'm Anita Vogel.

President Trump will attend the NATO conference in Brussels in May. That's according to a just released statement from the White House. President Trump has been critical of the alliance in the past, accusing other member nations of not paying their fair shares.

Wall Street has seen its biggest daily loss in five months. The Dow fell 237 points, the S&P dropped 29, while the NASDAQ tumbled 107 points. The selloff comes amid concerns whether the GOP backed health care bill can pass Thursday's house vote.

A friend of the Charleston, South Carolina, church shooter heading to prison. Joey Meek was sentenced to 27 months for failing to tell authorities about Dylann Roof's plan. Roof opened fire inside the church in 2015, killing nine of its African-American members.

I'm Anita Vogel. Back to "Hannity."

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TRUMP: The House bill ends the ObamaCare nightmare and gives health care decisions back to the state and back to the American people.

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HANNITY: All right, that was President Trump earlier today. Now, this morning he went to Capitol Hill. He meant with Republicans to disclose the legislation to repeal and replace ObamaCare. The president believes the legislation will pass on Thursday.

Joining me now, editor in chief of Lifezette, Fox News contributor, a hugely successful national syndicated radio host, Laura Ingraham is back with us. So they definitely made progress. Tom Price said this is a three-step process. And then of course it's got to go to the Senate. Then it's going to come back and they're going to get into conference together.

All right, so the Freedom Conference guys said they want two things to get on board otherwise they have 35 or so members against, repeal the ObamaCare mandates, and essential health benefits, and then they said the rest they can go along with, with the understanding that the Health and Human Services secretary has the authority on his own and to do a lot of the things that they specifically asked for on their wish list. That will happen. Your thoughts?

LAURA INGRAHAM, EDITOR IN CHIEF, LIFEZETTE.COM: Mark Meadows just a few hours ago said that right now, they don't have the votes. This is last- minute bargaining I think you're seeing going on, Sean. And I do think that as we're watching this play out, its brinksmanship right to the end.  When either joking or half-serious, Donald Trump says you guys are going to lose your seats, some of those guys on Capitol Hill took it as an implicit threat, like you don't support me, I'm not good to help you, I'm not going to campaign for you.

So it's a little disturbing that this early on in the administration the Trump folks have to resort to the arm-twisting. That's what happens, but it doesn't usually happen this early in the administration, so that's a little concerning. I think better groundwork could have been done on the health care bill by the Ryan people in the White House to get this to really where it was supposed to be, a full repeal and at the same time a full replace, which is not what's happening.

HANNITY: Look, I have talked to every side on this, even the 2015 bill that I know a lot of the Freedom Caucus members wanted, that was not a full repeal in essence. It was more than what we have. This will not be. And it all comes back to reconciliation, the way the bill was passed, the way they have to work within it in the Senate. I understand all of those things.

The more important issue to me is as we get to phase two and three, get to the Senate, then we get into conference, nobody will know for a long time with this bill is going to look like because the Senate doesn't take it up until next week, and that's frustrating for those of us that are trying to understand it.

INGRAHAM: And I think the phase three, certainly as I understand it and as Tom Cotton has explained it, that's kind of a pipe dream. The idea that phase three is going to garner 60 votes, if that's the case where you're going to have across state lines and you're going to break the anti- competitive behavior of all these drug companies, health care companies, you're going to bring prices down with real competition, if you have the votes to do it now, then just do a simultaneous repeal bill as you -- a replace bill as you repeal the other legislation. You know what I'm saying? If phase three is going to happen, then do it now and push the Democrats to the wall on that competitiveness issue, which I think you can break the Democrats your way with enough public pressure that I think could be brought to bear. But this kind of staggered approach, Tom Price is going to do this regulatory stuff -- maybe.

HANNITY: You and I like to hold these guys accountable, and I don't really care what party they're a part of. To me after eight years, they just didn't seem ready. They weren't prepared.

INGRAHAM: They were not prepared.

HANNITY: They didn't build consensus before they rolled it out. And I hope they learn from it because we've got two budgets to pass, we've got tax reform, we've got a lot of work to do here. And you know, if it ends up being a mishmash, here's the bottom line. If they don't get this right, they broke it, they own that, and they will take all of the political heat they would rightly deserve. So at the end of the day they better be right because they're forcing the president to get behind it.

INGRAHAM: You're making a point, Sean, you're making a great point. And I think it would have been better instead of just handing it all off to Paul Ryan, the White House came in and said this has to be done with -- five things have to be done, or three things have to be done. This has to be done. We'll work around the edges with you on the replacement bill, but this repeal has to happen and we're going to immediately have a two year phase in period.

And these pro competition measures have got to be immediately on the table for the American public to see, and we're going to argue that and we're going to litigate that and we're going to move on that for the next two years, and we are going to win on that. That would've been a better way to go I think. That's my view.

HANNITY: If they get there in the end that's fine, but if they get there and they don't have -- if people end up paying more money for inferior care --

INGRAHAM: That will happen under this legislation. Under this legislation now, that will happen.

HANNITY: That's the fix that they were trying to work on today, and again, we'll know more by the end of tomorrow. We'll have more with Laura Ingraham right after the break. We'll talk about James Comey from yesterday.

Also later tonight, the department of homeland security along with the TSA, they have issued an electronics ban for devices larger than cellphones, and this from flights coming into the U.S. from 10 specific airports from eight to Middle Eastern and North African countries. We'll get reaction tonight from Colonel Oliver North. What might that fear of a ban and the need for a ban be about? That's scary, straight ahead.

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REP. DEVIN NUNES, R-CALIF.: Do you have any evidence that Russia's cyber actors changed vote tallies in the state of Michigan?

ADM. MICHAEL ROGERS, NSA DIRECTOR: No I do not, but I would highlight we're a foreign intelligence organization, not a domestic intelligence organization. So it would be fair to say we are probably not the best organization to provide a more complete answer.

NUNES: How about the state of Pennsylvania?  

ROGERS: No, sir.

NUNES: The state of Wisconsin?

ROGERS: No, sir.

NUNES: state of Florida?

ROGERS: No, sir.

NUNES: State of North Carolina?

ROGERS: No, sir.

NUNES: State of Ohio?

ROGERS: No, sir.

NUNES: So you have no intelligence to suggest or evidence to suggest any votes were changed?

ROGERS: Nothing generated by the National Security Agency, sir.

NUNES: Director Comey, do you have any evidence at the FBI that any votes were changed in the states that I mentioned to Admiral Rogers?

JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR: No.

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HANNITY: That was FBI Director James Comey, Admiral Rogers both saying Russia did not influence the vote tallies in the 2016 election, just like James Clapper, national director of intelligence. Here with reaction, Laura Ingraham.

I watched this yesterday and then I watched the media coverage of all of this.

INGRAHAM: Oh, my God.

HANNITY: I'm thinking it's hilarious because it's the media that said of Trump Tower was wiretapped. The media said all that. All those guys say it doesn't impact the election. They said they've hacked us and tried to influence past elections, about trying to influence the 2018 election, the 2020 election. Why is the media obsessed about this with no evidence for eight months?

INGRAHAM: They were hoping this was going to be the smoking gun, as Maxine Waters tweeted yesterday, I think it was yesterday, "Get ready, we're one step closer to impeachment." It's just the most ridiculous commentary and breathless reporting from the media, Sean, who are desperate to try to find some Russian web of spies working with, I don't know, just pick your Trump staffer. And nothing has come to the fore.

The big reveal yesterday was something Trump already conceded in that Tucker Carlson interview when he said The New York Times is reporting that some of my former associates or aides had been surveilled. What did Comey say? I have no knowledge of any wiretaps of Trump Tower, and none of the other intelligence agencies do either. That was the big get from yesterday's hearing? I just thought it was a big nothing.

HANNITY: But it's even deeper than that. We have been reporting this for two weeks, you know this because you've been on and watching Sara Carter and John Solomon. They said yes -- they didn't say "wiretapping." Now, are we playing word games? Is the FBI director playing word games? Not wiretapped. But was their surveillance? Were there two warrants? Was the Trump server surveilled, the Trump Tower server surveilled? The answer appears to be yes. And as an ancillary look at the pings from a Russian bank, big deal. And you would think they are allowing this conspiracy theory, the media, to go on for another year, another eight months? When do they say definitively nothing happened?

INGRAHAM: It certainly does lend belief to this idea that intelligence has become in some circles really politicized. The real shocker is that in a hotly contested election year, the FBI director was briefing the president of the United States on an ongoing investigation involving an opposition candidate. And we don't really know what happened at that briefing. He wouldn't go into that yesterday. But it was very strange that the president gets briefed but the congressional leaders weren't briefed until yesterday or the day before yesterday.

HANNITY: How did Hillary Clinton find out? Remember she tweeted out. How did Harry Reid find out?

INGRAHAM: Exactly. But he would not answer those questions because earlier in the interview, in the hearing, he said, well, regularly we inform the White House and the other intelligence agencies and the Congressional, the gang of eight in the intelligence committee, we regularly apprise them of counter-intel investigations like this on a quarterly basis. If it started last July, why is it taking formal basis until now for them to have revealed it? It's very curious. I thought he got really squirrelly when that Albany congresswoman asked him about that.

HANNITY: I think when we get to the end of this we're going to find a lot of politics, and I think you're right. I think probably a lot of people not only in the intelligence community but maybe even within the FBI and the CIA have in fact been politicized. That is a danger to the entire country. And I don't say that lightly. I'm saying a very small few. Not the majority. And there are a few.

INGRAHAM: And that issue that you've been hitting ever night almost of the leak, everyone on these other cable networks, Republicans are obsessed with leaks. The only crime that we know that has been committed definitively is leaking Mike Flynn's name to the media. That's a felony. We know that was committed. There is an aggressive lack of curiosity on the part of liberal journalists and so-called Republican commentators on this subject.

HANNITY: Journalism is dead. They want to destroy Trump. That's her only agenda 24/7.

INGRAHAM: Impeachment, baby. That's what they want, impeachment, that's all they want.

HANNITY: Was it Maxine Waters? Yes, Maxine Waters today said the time is here now. OK, 60 days in, let's get rid of them.

INGRAHAM: She has to get more interesting fantasies. That's a real snore.

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HANNITY: I'm not touching that. I'm not going anywhere near that.

INGRAHAM: I put it out there. You have clean hands on that one, don't worry. I'll take all the heat for that.

HANNITY: You get all the heat for that. Thanks, Laura.

And coming up, the DHS, the TSA issued an electronics ban for devices larger than a cell phone for passengers coming into the U.S. from 10 specific airports in eight Middle Eastern and North African countries.  Even key Democrats are praising this move. Does that vindicate the president and his temporary travel ban? Up next we get reaction from Colonel Oliver North, and more straight ahead.

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HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." Today the DHS and TSA announced it would then electronic devices larger than a cell phone from fights coming into the U.S. from 10 select airports in eight Middle Eastern and North African countries. The countries on the list are Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, and Morocco. And even the Democrats are praising this move. After being briefed by the department of homeland security, the ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee, Democratic Congressman Adam Schiff praised the decision in a statement reading in part, quote, "I full support the new security precautions implemented by the department over the weekend."

The devices are not allowed to be brought into the cabin but can be checked. So does this electronics ban prove that more extreme vetting is needed? Here with reaction the host of "War Stories," Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North. You know what I love. You tell stories, for example. As a Marine how many times did you go to through waterboarding ?

LT. COL. OLIVER NORTH, "WAR STORIES" HOST: I water boarded probably 100 people myself and was water boarded going through survival school.

HANNITY: By fellow marines.

NORTH: Yes.

HANNITY: That's illegal. We can't do that to people that want to plot, plan, scheme, and kill us.

NORTH: It didn't used to be torture, Sean.

HANNITY: I still don't believe it is. And if you want to believe in waterboarding, all you have to do is watch somebody steal your kid and you capture the person that was assisting, and then they know where your kid's come, I think most people might resort to waterboarding to get the information where the child is.

All right, so what do you think of this ban. Why is it important, especially if we're going to allow cell phones, does it matter if you don't allow the larger devices?

NORTH: The size of the explosive matters. But it's smart to be paying attention to this clearly new intelligence, as you pointed out, for flights in the U.S. and U.K. And ever since 9/11/01, jihadis have been attempting to bring down an aircraft. Five different events -- underwear, shoes, liquids, a printer, twice with underwear, by the way. There's a fascination there that I don't want to explore too closely. But they've been trying to do it. So the aircraft security measures put in place on Saturday, by the way, it's not going to be immediate, Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, and Morocco, are not on the travel ban. That's for Syria, Iran, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, and Sudan.

HANNITY: Colonel, can I ask you a question? Why is Saudi Arabia not on the travel ban? Why are most of these countries?

NORTH: I think in part because the countries that are on the travel ban, it's separate now completely from those who are banned from carrying a cell phone aboard an aircraft. Those countries, Syria, Iran, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, and Sudan, are literally failed states. They have little or no possibility of doing a vetting process in those countries. So the only real crossover between the measures taken for aircraft and the travel ban is to remind critics of the travel ban that the jihad is not over and it's not likely to be anytime soon.

HANNITY: Colonel, what don't we extremely vet everybody from every country and let anybody who wants to be a guest or pay for their own vetting? Fair idea?

NORTH: You can expect a reprisal coming back in their direction, on the other hand.

HANNITY: Fine, that's fair.

NORTH: I look at the cost of an airline ticket today and I say how many people would still do it if they had to pay an extra $250, 300 every time they got on an airplane? The reality of it is that the intelligence that we've now got ever since 9/11/01 is clearly focused on the threat. Now it's an electronic device. But the adage of the age is we have to be right 100 times, 100 percent of the time, and the terrorists only have to be right once.

HANNITY: Well said. All right, Colonel, safe home. Good to see you, my friend.

NORTH: Appreciate you.

HANNITY: And up next, we need your help, a very important "Question of the Day." And these messages are getting meaner by the night, I'm not sure why.  Maybe it's something I'm doing wrong. The "Hannity" hotline coming up.

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HANNITY: All right, time for the "Question of the Day." Tonight, a very important question. Do you think Democrats were fair to Judge Neil Gorsuch today? Not really, but it's going to get worse. But we want your opinion.  Go to Facebook.com/SeanHannity, @SeanHannity on Twitter, let us know what you think.

Time to play some of the messages. Hit me with your best shot you left for me on the "Hannity" hotline. Let's hit it.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was wondering why you always throw the football at the end of every show. Do you like football, or do you have a favorite team?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I hate Hannity. I can't stand the jerk.

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HANNITY: Wow. Well, I throw the football because it's fun and we throw the football before the show sometimes, after the show other times, and we do it for a good time. And to the woman who hates me, I don't think I can do anything to make you like me. I will not lose sleep over it.

Anyway, want to say something to me, nice, mean doesn't matter, call the number on your screen, 877-225-8587. That's all the time we have this evening. As always, thank you for being with us. We'll see you back here tomorrow night.

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