Hannity: The abusively biased press doesn't get it; Gingrich: The secretary of state must be a great manager

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," December 5, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: And welcome to "Hannity." Former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich -- he'll be here in just a minute, but first, the left-wing mainstream media keeps proving just how completely out of touch they are.  And that's tonight's opening monologue.

Now, the abusively biased press, they just don't get it because outlets like the "Clinton News Network," NBC News, remember those people? They were caught colluding with the Clinton campaign. They don't know get what is really going on in this country.

Now, Donald Trump obviously gets it. That's probably one of the big reasons he won the election. And you, the American people, obviously get it.

But the alt left mainstream media, they don't have a clue, and they don't want to have one, either. Perfect example of this comes from Jeff Zucker's stenographer, CNN's Brian Stelter, that little pipsqueak. He has been arguably the most biased offender towards President-elect Trump. Let's take a look at just his latest smear.


BRIAN STELTER, SENIOR MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: Are we at the point where we have to talk about what it means to have an authoritarian as opposed to a democratic president treating the press this way?

STELTER: You talk to international correspondents who will say to you this is exactly what authoritarians do. This is what strongmen do. This is what happens in authoritarian regimes. I think we need to start using those words on TV at least to discuss the possibilities before us.

STELTER: The way Donald Trump lies has people rethinking some of the basic premises of journalism.

STELTER: When President-elect Trump lies so casually, so cynically, the news isn't so much the false thing he said, it's that he felt like he just could go ahead and say it, go ahead and lie to you. That's the story. Why does he bend and flex and twist and warp and distort the truth?  Personally, I'm curious because I think Trump does it differently than past presidents. His lies are different and deserve scrutiny.


HANNITY: See? You get it? CNN is not a real news network. And Stelter, well, he's completely biased, a purveyor of fake news that he complains about, and he's made it very clear how one-sided he really is.

Now, I don't remember him ever calling Hillary Clinton a liar. And by the way, I challenged him to do so on Twitter and maybe he should report on how his own network repeatedly colluded with the Clinton campaign.

Well, then you have a media freak-out over President-elect Donald Trump.  What did he do? He took a phone call, a congratulatory call from the leader of Taiwan. Now, they completely lost it over that one phone call, not an actual policy position. And the press, they also failed to report that every administration since 1979 has sold weapons to Taiwan.

Not to mention that, according to The Wall Street Journal, Bill Clinton, well, he let Taiwan's former president give a speech at Cornell University.  That was back in 1995.

And most importantly tonight, well, the media doesn't get it on the economy. Look at NBC, "Meet the Press," Chuck Todd. They wanted to turn a great story into a bad one by grilling Vice President-elect Mike Pence over the Carrier deal. Take a look at this exchange.


VICE PRESIDENT-ELECT MIKE PENCE: The only reason Carrier is staying in the United States is because Donald Trump was elected president of the United States. And the leadership at United Technologies and Carrier...

CHUCK TODD, MODERATOR: This is the government intervening in the private sector.

PENCE: No. What happened here...

TODD: Why is this not government intervening in the private sector?

PENCE: Well, first off, let's remember now more than 1,000 Hoosiers have certainty in their jobs and in their futures going into this Christmas season because of the leadership of Donald Trump.

TODD: 700 don't.

PENCE: And I couldn't be more grateful for that and the people of Indiana...

TODD: 700 don't.

PENCE: ... couldn't be more grateful for that. Well, look, I know the glass is half empty tendency of many in the media.

TODD: It's not about the media, sir.

PENCE: But what you saw here -- what you saw here...

TODD: Hitting the media is always crutch for you guys. This is not about the media...

PENCE: It's not -- it's not a crutch.


HANNITY: Interesting. Overpaid media elites like Chucky Todd, they don't care that jobs were saved and they probably never will. One of the best things I did in my life, I spent 20 years of my life doing blue collar work. Obviously, Chuck needs to go back and try it.

Now, fortunately, President-elect Donald Trump understands that the biased press, they're never going to be in his corner, they're never going to give him credit, which is why the president-elect says his focus will be on fixing the broken economy for you, the American people.

Now, he's going to follow through on his promises, he says, by cutting taxes, repatriating money, lowering the corporate tax to 15 percent, reducing regulation, repealing, replacing ObamaCare, moving towards energy independence and much more. And to really get the economy going, this will require thinking outside the box, not trusting Washington bureaucrats to come up with solutions they have failed so often in the past.

And last night, I was watching "60 Minutes." The program interviewed economic developer guy by the name of Joe Max Higgins. They call him the coach. He created 6,000 manufacturing jobs in one of the poorest parts of the country. It's called Mississippi's Golden Triangle. Watch this.


JOE MAX HIGGINS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPER: For some companies, offshore wasn't as great as they thought it was or as it was portrayed to be. Many of the companies said, "Hey, if it's going to be consumed in the U.S., we can produce U.S. cheaper and more efficiently than we can elsewhere and bring it in."

BILL WHITAKER, CBS NEWS: They save money by being here in Mississippi?


WHITAKER: Right away, he coached his small staff to the triangle's biggest win in 50 years. He outwits the competition with a bag full of tricks. He can twist your arm or kill you with kindness.

HIGGINS: I tell our staff if you leave our office and you didn't do something to make our place a better place today, then you need to find another job.


HANNITY: Now, the president-elect, he needs to take this concept and apply it on a national level to create jobs all over the country. Now, in fact, in my opinion, he should hire Joe Max Higgins to help him in places like Detroit and Cleveland and Baltimore and Chicago and all across the Rust Belt.

Now, if the president-elect -- if he builds it, so to speak, by creating the right economic climate, and businesses and jobs will then come, and then he'd have the opportunity to create one of the greatest economic booms perhaps America has ever seen.

Now, the president-elect may spend a trillion dollars, he's saying, to rebuild infrastructure. Now, to do it the right way, you have to take that money away from those wasteful, inefficient bureaucrats and give it to people like Joe Max Higgins, who would spend it wisely and actually deliver results, like he did to the Golden Triangle.

Joining us now with reaction, the author of the best-selling book "Treason," former speaker of the House, Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich.

This guy fascinated him. I sent you a note about him last night. What he did is he would fly over the golden triangle. They lost all these jobs.  They didn't have labor issues. He saw all this opportunity. He literally forced a local government to invest in roads, sewers and even a huge electrical bit (ph). And he was able to bring, for example, a helicopter plant there, a tire plant there, a steel-producing plant there. They put a special electric grid in just to entice them to come.

Now, if we're going to spend up to a trillion dollars in infrastructure, I want him spending it, not those 535 clowns in D.C. Am I wrong?


HANNITY: You're laughing at me.

GINGRICH: No, I'm not. I think you're onto something that's very, very big. And I happen this afternoon to be talking to Dr. Ben Carson, who sees the same vision for the inner city, of public-private partnerships, of breaking out of the bureaucracy, of getting people who are successful job creators to come in and work to actually develop areas where people have jobs where there are factories, where there's employment and where there are schools that succeed.

So I think the Trump administration is going to be very aggressive about reaching beyond the traditional bureaucracy. And you know, I have a very simple rule, which is to take the Wollman skating rink model, which is it took Trump $3 million and two-and-a-half months to do what the city of New York failed to do with $13 million in six years.

So take that formula -- (INAUDIBLE) a trillion dollars in effect under a Donald Trump, you might get that for $350 billion because he's going to spend it so much more aggressively in such a much tough-minded, Let's get it done, Let's be frugal, Let's be practical -- this is a guy who builds buildings, he doesn't just give speeches. And I think he's going to lead us to real job creation.

HANNITY: You know, I loved his idea from the beginning about allowing multinational corporation that park trillions of dollars overseas, repatriate that money, bring it back to America, 10 percent flat tax, one- time tax, bring it back.

What if he said, I'll make it a 5 percent tax, but you've got to nervous X million dollars in factories, manufacturing centers, job creation in Detroit, Milwaukee, Baltimore, Cleveland and Philadelphia and other cities that need it? Good idea?

GINGRICH: I think -- well, it's exactly what Jack Kemp was advocating years ago in creating enterprise zones, areas where you -- you dramatically limit the regulations. You make it fast and easy to start a job. You give a good tax advantage. You have a school that actually teaches people how to work, teaches them the skills they need for a job. You put that package together right, you can have very dramatic economic growth.

HANNITY: What do you think of the idea going forward that -- you call it Trumpism. Let me ask you this. You're about to give a speech to the Heritage Foundation. And I don't want you to give your whole speech away, but you define part of Trumpism, if you see something really stupid, change it. What is Trumpism? What are you defining as Trumpism?

GINGRICH: Well, first of all, I'm trying to learn from Trump by watching what he does. And this goes all the way back to his book "The Art of the Deal," which is where I first got the Wollman skating rink story. It comes from Rudy Giuliani telling me about the Ferry Point Park in Bronx, where Trump got a golf course built in 18 months, where neither Giuliani nor Bloomberg could get it done.

So I'm looking at, What is it this guy does? How does he think? What's he trying to do? And this trip to Indiana, the Carrier example is perfectly Trump-like. He sees a problem. He thinks there's an opportunity. He picks up the phone. He gets the job done, and now he moves on to the next topic.

HANNITY: But you know what some are saying...

GINGRICH: And you're going to see him over and over do that.

HANNITY: Some even conservatives say, Oh, that's economic fascism. Why?  Every -- all 50 governors in the country -- I used to have often Governor Perry, Governor Abbott, Governor Scott, Governor Jindal. You know why they keep coming to my New York studio? Because they were trying to entice businesses from New York and New Jersey to invest in their states. And guess what? They did! And it worked.

GINGRICH: Well, let me say two things about this. Trump is the first American president to realize that we're in a worldwide economic competition, just like the 50 states are in a competition.

I mean, these guys who yell free trade, have they ever tried doing business in Mexico? Have they tried doing business in China? What are they talking about?

You -- this is an interesting theoretical model. And I've read Adam Smith.  I'm happy to debate "The Wealth of Nations" any time because he actually has very clear places where he says it doesn't work. And even Smith thought you had to modify it.

But I think the guys who are sitting around these academic centers spouting off ideology are as much out of touch with reality as left-wingers who are sitting around similar centers spouting off their version of ideology.

Trump is, in the classic American sense, a pragmatist. William James once said that pragmatism was the one unique American contribution to philosophy. And what it means is, you look at the facts and the facts tell you how to act. You don't have some grand theory which tells you what the facts ought to be.

HANNITY: All right, we got to take a break. We'll have more with Newt Gingrich right after this.

And coming up -- President-elect Donald Trump's list for secretary of state is now growing. Who is he going to pick? We'll ask Newt Gingrich.

And also later tonight...


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He did talk unity at his big rally in Cincinnati.  The problem was, you know, he kind of dissed Hillary Clinton. The crowd chanted "Lock her up." The crowd was mostly white.


HANNITY: CNN continues to bash President-elect Donald Trump. We'll have the latest examples. And Michelle Malkin is back. She's in studio to respond to the out of control liberal bias in the media.

And much more tonight right here on "Hannity."



HANNITY: And welcome back to "Hannity." So the Trump transition team remains hard at work trying to fill key administrative roles. Earlier today, President-elect Trump -- he nominated Dr. Benjamin Carson as the Department of Housing and Urban Development secretary. And the president- elect is reportedly now expanding the field of potential secretary of state nominees, sending out more invitations to meet with even more people this week.

Back with reaction, former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich. He's moving so much faster than past presidents, but he's inviting everybody in. Like, I don't want Mitt Romney chosen because I think you need loyal people around you. Do you agree?

GINGRICH: I do agree. But I have to say the discipline, the way they're approaching this -- you know, they're way ahead of most presidents right now in the number of cabinet slots they've already chosen. And I know there are two or three more coming that they've already gotten locked down, that they know what they're doing.

And here is probably his hardest decision. I think what's happening as he looks at this -- and I really admire the disciplined way he's approached the secretary of state. Could have picked Rudy Giuliani, certainly my choice. Might have picked Mitt Romney, certainly not my choice. But he keeps looking at it, thinking about it, talking to people.

And I think we may discover that the model is what President Eisenhower did. He brought in John Foster Dulles, who was a great international lawyer. He wasn't a theoretician. He wasn't a creature of the State Department bureaucracy. But he was somebody who had actually worked internationally with big deals, getting things done.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the president-elect reach out to somebody in business who's running a large multi-national who's used to dealing with many, many different countries and who brings that tough- minded business approach to the State Department because remember, and I think you and I totally agree on this, you have to have a secretary of state who both fixes the State Department while representing the U.S. overseas. They've got to do both jobs, and I think it's important to have a great manager to do that.

HANNITY: I think the bureaucracy of the State Department -- that's where the swamp that needs to be drained is, or at least a big part of it.

Let me -- let me ask you about this Taiwan question and the media's coverage of this. Now, in '95, Bill Clinton let the president of Taiwan give a speech at Cornell. And then when George W. Bush was president, he allowed the president of Taiwan to visit in transit to countries in Latin America that maintained diplomatic relations with Taiwan.

You would think this is the biggest, I guess, presidential faux pas watching the news media this weekend because he took a congratulatory phone call from the president of Taiwan.

They -- you know, Dick Cheney actually made a statement. He said, you know, Trump could now transcend the media at this point. He doesn't need these guys anymore. Is it time to rethink the White House press office?

For example, does CNN really deserve a seat after being caught colluding with the Clinton campaign? Does NBC deserve a seat in the White House press office and dealing with the press secretary when we know they have an institutional bias? Or is it time to just throw them all out and start over?

GINGRICH: Well, those are two different questions. Let me say first of all about Taiwan. This was a deliberate, well thought out, specific signal. He accepted a phone call from the freely elected head of a democracy of 23 million people. And frankly, if it's OK for President Obama to go down and hang out with the Castro dictatorship, it ought to be OK for Donald Trump to talk to a democracy.

And he's also sending a very tough signal to Beijing. This ain't the old order. We're not going to let you push us around. You don't dictate to us, setting the stage for some very, very important negotiations.

In terms of the White House press office, I'd like to rethink it from the ground up. It ought to be the American people's press office. We ought to use things like Facebook, like Twitter, a variety of other opportunities to let, for one thing, reporters from all over the country ask questions, to let experts ask questions and to organize a whole new way of making that office serve not the elite media...

HANNITY: You know...

GINGRICH: ... not the politicians...

HANNITY: Listen...

GINGRICH: ... but serve the American people.

HANNITY: When Rudy Giuliani was mayor, he used to do a radio show every week and take calls from city residents. I'd offer my 550 radio stations and this -- my show -- let him take calls from people around the country, right? And if The New York Times gets through, God bless them.

GINGRICH: I think -- I somehow think they're not going to get through often on your show. But no, I think -- but you've got the right idea, which is this was not designed to be the news media's office.

HANNITY: That's what it's become.

GINGRICH: This was designed to be a way for the president of the United States to communicate with the people. And it's become a place where the filter of the news media in many ways distorts and blocks the ability to communicate directly with the American people. And I think it would be useful to rethink it from the ground up and not assume anything about what we've inherited from the past.

HANNITY: And it's become such a fake dog and phony pony show between the press secretary and the media and the hostility in that room. It's just -- it's frankly, a waste of everybody's time.

Mr. Speaker, good to see you. Thank you.

And up next tonight on this busy news night right here on "Hannity"...


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He did talk unity at his big rally in Cincinnati.  The problem was, you know, he kind of dissed Hillary Clinton. The crowd chanted "Lock her up." The crowd was mostly white.


HANNITY: Oh, really? We'll have more on the liberal mainstream media, their negative coverage of President-elect Trump. It is time for America to drain the alt left radical media swamp? Michelle Malkin -- she's join us.

And also coming up tonight...


JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: It is true that the earth is warming even as we have climate deniers in the world today. It's true that human beings are contributing to it at a rate that is absolutely awesome.


HANNITY: So the left have been whining about so-called fake news since the election. But remember, it's those on the left constantly pushing a fake narrative line to you about global warming. Billy Cunningham, Monica Crowley -- they'll weigh in, discuss that blatant double standard and much more tonight as we continue.


HANNITY: And welcome back to "Hannity." So earlier today, President-elect Donald Trump delivered a message to the mainstream media, now this time, regarding his Twitter account. The president-elect tweeted, quote, "If the press would cover me accurately and honorably, I would have far less reason to tweet." Sadly, well, I don't know if that will ever happen.

So doesn't the president-elect have a point? After all, you know, for weeks right here on this program, we have covered the overwhelmingly negative and unfair coverage of Donald Trump by the mainstream media, including the excessive Trump bashing over at the Clinton news network.  For example, take a look at some of CNN's coverage in just the past few days.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He did talks unity at his big rally in Cincinnati.  The problem was, you know, he kind of dissed Hillary Clinton. The crowd chanted "Lock her up." The crowd was mostly white.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Steve Bannon has a lot to answer for. He is the senior adviser to the president of the United States. He has a Web site that terrorists, white nationalist terrorists, consider to be their home base.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We have to be real and understand that the populism around Donald Trump's campaign was intrinsically tied to racism.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When I first heard that was tweeting about something that was on this broadcast, a number of tweets, again factually incorrect tweets last night, I kept thinking, Doesn't he have, like, a briefing book on ISIS to be reading?


HANNITY: All right, joining us now to discuss all the alt left radical media's blatantly bias, syndicated columnist, the host of the upcoming series, "Michelle Malkin Investigates" -- its on CRTV.com -- our -- I have not seen you. Today it's been so long. I miss you.


HANNITY: I'm so happy about your daughter doing much better. And it's great to see you.

MALKIN: Thank you.

HANNITY: And congrats on the new show.

MALKIN: Well, I appreciate that. I have a lot to celebrate this holiday season, not only...

HANNITY: Yes, including Hillary.

MALKIN: ... the election results!

HANNITY: I know.

MALKIN: Right?

HANNITY: And your daughter is doing great.

MALKIN: And seeing you, it's a joy!

HANNITY: OK. So OK, CNN colluded with the Clinton campaign.

MALKIN: Yes, they did.

HANNITY: And they got caught.

MALKIN: Yes, they did.

HANNITY: Then they colluded with the DNC to screw Trump by getting questions from the DNC for Trump.


HANNITY: Why did -- (INAUDIBLE) fake news. Isn't that fake news?

MALKIN: It is the textbook definition of fake news, manufactured narrative! This is something I've been covering for as long as I have been not only in mainstream journalism, I've worked in newspapers, I've worked on TV, but also in new media. And that is the key here.

You talked about Donald Trump using Twitter, using social media, circumventing the rest of the liberal media to get his message across.


MALKIN: And they hate him for it.

HANNITY: Dick Cheney says they don't need -- Trump doesn't need them!



MALKIN: That's right. And there's always been this sort of dependent relationship between most of these establishment politicians and the Washington, D.C., press corps. They matter less and less now, and in large part, it is because of citizen journalism and conservative bloggers.

Hey, I was part of that generation of the first wave of a conservative blogger...


MALKIN: ... with HotAir, with my own blog.


MALKIN: And you know what? We were the ones that called out the fake news manufacturers at CBS, who made up...

HANNITY: If they would be honest...

MALKIN: Remember? Remember when they made up...

HANNITY: I remember.

MALKIN: ... the National Guard documents?

HANNITY: Dan Rather.

MALKIN: Right. And now this guy has the nerve and the chutzpah to be lecturing us about fake news?

HANNITY: All right, so, look, I don't know what they think -- Christiane Amanpour was on PBS whining this weekend...


HANNITY: ... about freedom of the press is in jeopardy.


HANNITY: Freedom of the press -- you can say anything you want. You can be as opinionated as you want. You can report any way you want, lie as often as you do, you have all the freedom. But that doesn't mean you get access to every president, every vice president just because you work for a phony news organization!

Here's what she said.


CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN: Never in a million years could I have imagined myself on this stage in New York re-appealing for the safety and the freedom of the American press. And I base that on, obviously, Donald Trump's rhetoric against the press, calling us dishonest, despicable and all sorts of other epitaphs that were hurled around.

I have covered enough of my colleagues who have ended up, as I put it, in cages in kangaroo courts in places like Cairo or in Moscow, on trial for being inciters or sympathizers or associates or out and out flat-out terrorists. So I feel I have to stand up for my own tribe in the United States.



MALKIN: Her tribe?

HANNITY: Wow! Is she not -- is that not pompous and sanctimonious and self-righteous?

MALKIN: Yes. And it's the condescending attitude that is rendering them more and more irrelevant because, look, these people, especially on the left, do not think that anybody who doesn't think like them can practice journalism! It is not rocket science. It's not rocket science. It's not brain surgery. All you have to do is challenge authority. Question authority, isn't that what the left always says. Ask the questions nobody else will ask.

HANNITY: Who is stopping her? Who is going to stop her? Why doesn't she call out her own network for bias?

MALKIN: Exactly. These people have no intellectual honesty, no integrity.  The problem is never, in my mind, has ever been that there are partisans in the press. It's when poseurs. It's when they're fakers and phonies who have a pretense of objectivity --

HANNITY: You're so on your game tonight.

MALKIN: -- instead of copping to what their agenda is.

HANNITY: I am a talk show host. I'm a conservative. I don't hide it.  You don't hide it.

MALKIN: That's right.

HANNITY: They act like they're --

MALKIN: And they're colluding with the Democrats. They're always been a satellite organization, and that's what we're doing what we're doing at CRTV.

HANNITY: CRTV.com, "Michelle Malkin Investigates," four episodes come out on Monday.


HANNITY: Congratulations.

MALKIN: Thank you so much.

HANNITY: Up next tonight right here on "Hannity."


JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: It is true that the earth is warming even as we have climate deniers in the world today. It is true that human beings are contributing to it at a rate that is absolutely awesome.


HANNITY: For years John Kerry and other self-righteous liberals have been pushing a false global warming narrative. So why are they now suddenly offended by this fake news on the interview that they talk about? Monica Crowley, Bill Cunningham, a great American will all weigh in next. And I go one on one tonight with the one and only Geraldo Rivera over the Kate Steinle lawsuit as we continue.  


HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." So the left and the liberal mainstream media are having a meltdown over what they call the rise of fake news around the country, but they've turned a very blind eye to real fake news, by global warming being pressed by the press and the leftwing for years.  Let's take a look.


KERRY: It is true that the earth is warming even as we have climate deniers in the world today.

HILLARY CLINTON, D-FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Climate change is real, it's urgent, and America can take the lead in the world in addressing it, right?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's one thing to argue about how to lessen global warming. It's quite another to deny it's even happening. There is overwhelming evidence that our climate is changing and that we are in part to blame.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Climate change threatens to completely alter the way that we live, from the way we produce our food to where we live, how we live.

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: The debate is settled.  Climate change is a fact.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We face a genuine planetary emergency. We cannot just talk about it. We have to act on it. We have to solve it.


HANNITY: Joining us with reaction, nationally syndicated radio talk show host out of Cincinnati Bill Cunningham, Fox News contributor Monica Crowley. Bill Cunningham, according to Al Gore, wasn't the earth supposed to have been destroyed by now?

BILL CUNNINGHAM, NATIONAL SYNDICATED RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Sean Hannity, if you go back 15 or 20 years, Florida is under water right now, Alaska would be like a jungle, and we know that this isn't the case. What it fits is the simple principle. The Democrats want control of the economy, they want control of the jobs. Through the EPA they imposed a liberal orthodoxy. And if you or Monica or anyone disagrees with them, you'll be marginalized, you'll be slimed and called names.

A great newspaper, their motto really is "All of the news that fits they print." They think abortion is a sacrament. They think the southern border is fine. They think our relationship with China is A-OK. Normal people understand global warming has been going on and cooling for eons without human involvement. Earthquakes, sunspots, avalanches, tsunamis all affect weather. It's not manmade global warming.

HANNITY: Hey, Bill, if it's snows, global warming. If it doesn't snow, global warming. If there's an earthquake, global warming. If there's not one, global warming. It doesn't matter. They blame everything.

But in the 1970s, Monica Crowley, they were saying in TIME magazine the next ice age is coming. So we go from ice age to global warming now to climate change. So no matter what the climate is, they've got an excuse.

CROWLEY: Well, of course, because what this is for the left, and this has been the case now since they started to make this argument three decades ago plus, is a massive wealth redistribution scheme. It's also a critical part of secular progressivism --

HANNITY: This is important. How does this --

CROWLEY: -- where they turn the environment into God. So it's a way of separating Americans and westerners from God and organized religion --

HANNITY: Let me ask you this. Isn't it predicated on the belief that we're raping and pillaging the planet for profit and if we cut down a tree to build a house, somehow somebody is going to make a profit?

CROWLEY: Yes. But again, this is part of the secular progressive agenda and has been for a long time. It does turn the earth into God and replaces God. But more importantly, Sean, as I tried to say, it's about taking wealth from wealthy individuals in the western world and wealthy countries and transferring that wealth to the third world and elsewhere according to how the global elites see fit. This has nothing to do with the climate.  This has nothing to do with the environment.

HANNITY: This was Al Gore. Al Gore met with President-elect Trump at Trump Tower today and Ivanka Trump, and here's what he said afterwards.


AL GORE, VICE PRESIDENT: I had a lengthy and very productive session with the president-elect. It was a sincere search for areas of common ground. I had a meeting beforehand with Ivanka Trump. The bulk of the time was with President-elect Donald Trump. I found it an extremely interesting conversation, and to be continued.


HANNITY: OK, so he still believes in this. Bill Cunningham, in 2007 "Hannity" hidden cameras caught the big phony hypocrite getting off his Gulf Stream 3, which is one of the worst polluting planes in the sky, and there were two people on a 14-seat jet, him and Tipper. They get off the jet and they go right into their chauffeured limousine. Take a look.  There he is, there's Al Gore gets off of his private plane all the way from Tennessee to San Francisco, Bill Cunningham, off of it into his chauffeur driven limousine. How many carbon emission were released during that trip.  And I'm like, if it's so bad, why don't you lead by example.

CUNNINGHAM: Monica and I understand one simple thing. There's no money in global cooling. There's money in global warming. Like in Watergate, follow the money. Think of the billions of dollars transferred from wealthier nation to poorer nations. Think of the control of fossil fuels and natural gas and pipelines. Pipelines are great. They're safe. No matter what happens in North or South Dakota, either transport the stuff by rail or by truck or pipeline. Pipelines are great. They should be used more often. There's no money in global cooling. The money is in global warming. And ching-ching-ching, Al Gore is now a billionaire because of manmade global warming. It is a farce. It's not true. Sean Hannity, normal Americans know what's going on, and I'm normal.

HANNITY: Got to let you both go. Love you both. Bill Cunningham, you're a great American. God bless us and God bless the United States of America.

CROWLEY: Absolutely, Sean.

HANNITY: I stole your line, your goodbye line. All right, thank you.

Coming up, outrage growing tonight over a federal judge now considering dismissing a lawsuit that was filed by the parents of Kate Steinle over her death. I'll go one on one with Mr. Immigration himself Geraldo Rivera and much more, straight ahead.


HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." Outrage growing tonight over a federal judge who is now considering dismissing a lawsuit filed by the parents of Kate Steinle over her death last year. You remember Kate was allegedly shot and killed by an illegal immigrant in San Francisco, a sanctuary city.  The family is suing the city and two federal agencies, accusing them of wrongdoing.

Joining us now, FOX News senior correspondent Geraldo Rivera. I'm going to appeal to the guy I know, my friend, Geraldo. And you are the best family guy I've ever met. Even your ex-wives, seriously, they love you.

GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: They're still part of the family.

HANNITY: Everybody -- you love your children. If this was your child or family member and you found out this guy had been sent back five times, just released from jail, not deported, and in front of you killed your family member, you'd go nuts.

RIVERA: I would. I'd want to kill him with his own hands.

HANNITY: You would.

RIVERA: I would. I'd want to kill him. I'd a literally want to kill him.  But that's not the issue.

HANNITY: That is the issue.

RIVERA: You hurt me when you appeal to me with my heart than rather than me as a lawyer. I'm a lawyer also, and the essential question here -- and our heart -- it is so -- what happened to this young girl --

HANNITY: So you're going to freeze your heart and be a lawyer.

RIVERA: Because this family is facing a legal dilemma. They have sued the two federal agencies and they sued the sheriff of San Francisco for what happened to their beautiful, beautiful Kate. What happened to her was absolutely intolerable.

HANNITY: Is the government negligent? Here's the question legally. Are they partly responsible for that young woman's death? The answer is yes.

RIVERA: The answer is maybe.


RIVERA: And ironically the immigration aspect of it is the weakest part of the family's case. The strongest part -- and by no means is it strong. It hangs by a thread, but at least the judge is considering it, is whether or not the bureau of land management guy who left his loaded gun in his car was grossly negligent to the extent that the federal government would be liable. If he was, if the gun, for instance, was in plane site when Lopez Sanchez --

HANNITY: I don't want to get distracted. I want to ask you as a father, as a guy I know. This is important. If you were there and you found out it was illegal and he killed your daughter, you would lose it.

RIVERA: And I would lose it. I would lose it because he's a creep. He's the dirt under my feet.

HANNITY: He doesn't belong here.

RIVERA: He's a total scumbag.

HANNITY: He didn't belong here.

RIVERA: He didn't belong here, he should have been out of the country, all of that is true, Sean. But this is the issue of a lawsuit. Why does the lawsuit fail if it fails? And now as I said maybe the cop leaving the gun in the car is grotesque negligence enough. But now the sheriff released Lopez Sanchez despite the fact that the federal government said, hold this guy for us. He gets out of jail, a felony, repeat undocumented immigrant, so he goes to jail, does four years in the federal pen. He gets out. He gets involved in a marijuana beef. The cops bust him. Then they decide to drop the charges.

So here he is jail, he is in local jail, they drop the charges against him.  Let me just finish, 15 more seconds. So they drop the charges. Now they have no legal reason to hold him. The federal government said wait a second, wait a second, detain him because he's an illegal immigrant. But they have no arrest warrant. They never say to the sheriff we have an arrest warrant on Lopez Sanchez.

HANNITY: If they knew he was illegal.

RIVERA: Right, he's totally illegal.

HANNITY: But they are accomplices to what happened because of the negligent --

RIVERA: Emotionally yes, morally yes, legally no.

HANNITY: Legally yes.


HANNITY: The law says you have to go.

RIVERA: Remember, there's no warrant. ICE's issuance of detainers to seek to detain individuals without a warrant goes beyond its statutory authority to make warrantless arrests. It is illegal. It is illegal.

HANNITY: A sanctuary city by definition is violating, they're aiding, they're abetting, they're accomplices in breaking the law. Wait a minute.  That in and of itself makes them liable, culpable.

RIVERA: It may make them schmucks, but it doesn't make them lawbreakers.

HANNITY: Excuse me.

RIVERA: You are going to see an explosion of sanctuary cities, towns, colleges --

HANNITY: And you know what --


HANNITY: Let me secede from the union if they don't want to obey the law.

RIVERA: If you don't like it you have to try to pass a new law.

HANNITY: The law is what it is today that we send by illegal immigrants.  That's what the law states.

RIVERA: The law states according to three different federal judges that if you want a state or a city to detain an undocumented immigrant --

HANNITY: You have to have a warrant.

RIVERA: You must show them a warrant. Without a warrant you have no power to make them hold them.

HANNITY: He said 25 times he didn't have the constitutional authority for executive amnesty, and he went against his own interpretation of the constitution, the rule of law, separation of powers, coequal branches of government, and he did what he himself said is false because he knows he couldn't get the law changed.

RIVERA: You are one of the most decent people I know and you have a strong moral compass. But moral compasses and decency are not what we're talking about here. We're talking about the law. There is no way to require a sanctuary city to detain someone without an arrest warrant. If the federal government wanted the city of San Francisco to hold this guy, they should have gotten an arrest warrant.

HANNITY: Who did you vote for?


RIVERA: That is not what we're talking about.


HANNITY: Did you vote for Trump? Did you vote for Trump?

RIVERA: You know I love Donald Trump. You know I love him.

HANNITY: Do you love Hillary.

RIVERA: No, I have a totally different relationship with Hillary.

HANNITY: So you love Trump.

RIVERA: I love Trump. You and I are like brothers. And I defend him now, give Trump a chance. Who I voted for, my business.

HANNITY: Share it.


HANNITY: Share it with the world.

RIVERA: Buy with another drink.


HANNITY: I'll give you the gift certificate. You want it? Go eat.

Coming up, we need your help. A very important "Question of the Day" straight ahead.  


HANNITY: All right, time for our "Question of the Day." Who should President-elect Trump pick now as his secretary of state? A lot of people out there. We want to hear from you. Go to Facebook.com/SeanHannity, @SeanHannity on Twitter, let us know what you think.

That is all the time we have left this evening. We hope you'll set your DVR so you never miss an episode. But we'll see you back here tomorrow night. Kevin, this is yours.

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