PAUL: No, since I suggested a better way, I would go back.

HAYES: So you would not have authorized that? So Usama bin Laden would be alive today?

PAUL: No. No. Let me answer. I said there was a better way. And the better way is what I said after 9/11. I voted for the authority, I voted for the funds. Go after them, couple hundred of our special forces, had him trapped, and walked away at Tora Bora. And wasted 10 years --

HAYES: That didn't happen. I'm talking about in 2011.

PAUL: Well, I'm saying he's a bad guy, we should have done it. A better way was doing it 10 years ago instead of going in and wasting all these American lives.

HAYES: So you would not -- because that didn't happen, in 2011 you would not have authorized that raid into Pakistan?

PAUL: Well, I think since KSM was delivered to us by Pakistanis that we should at least talk to them. Sure. I mean what is so terrible about that?

(CROSSTALK)

PAUL: I said this was a risky way because now we are lobbying missiles over there. Our drones are bombing. At the same time we're giving money to the government. There's a civil war going on. And we created this because we support a government that is very unpopular and that's what it leads to. Now we have Karzai saying, you know what, when the war breaks out we're supporting Pakistan against America.

BAIER: Sorry to interrupt you. We have a hard break to hit. We have much more to talk about. We'll continue this discussion. Juan has a great question. "Special Report" online continues right after the show. Next up, one show with a suggestion for Congressman Paul.

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