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    VAN SUSTEREN: Next, more with Speaker Gingrich. The Speaker and Governor Sarah Palin join forces against New York Mayor Bloomberg! Here's at tease. The Speaker says there should be no mosque at Ground Zero until there is a church in Saudi Arabia. You want to hear this!

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    VAN SUSTEREN: Continuing with former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich.

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    VAN SUSTEREN: Mr. Speaker, a lot of controversy. At least, certainly, you object to this mosque being built two blocks from Ground Zero.

    GINGRICH: Well, I think it's outrageous. Here you have people who have proposed to build a 13-story mosque at the edge of the World Trade Center area at a time, by the way, when the Greek Orthodox church in nine years has not been able to get its church rebuilt. They didn't propose -- they say they're interfaith. They didn't propose, Let's build a mosque, church and synagogue. They said, Let's build a 13-story mosque and a community center, which they initially called the Cordoba House, which is named for a city in Spain where a conquering Muslim army replaced a church with a mosque. I mean, it was a very direct reminder historically that this is all about conquest. This is about who wins.

    And I -- I -- I frankly find it very offensive, first of all, that they we're so stupid that they can use that kind of a title and we didn't notice it. Second, that -- you know, there are over 100 mosques in New York City. I favor religious freedom. I'm quite happy if they'd come and said, We want to build a community center near Central Park, we'd like to build a community center near Columbia University. But they didn't. They said right at the edge of a place where, let's be clear, thousands of Americans were killed in an attack by radical Islamists.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Well, why do you think Mayor Bloomberg is in favor? Attorney general of the state Andrew Cuomo is in favor of it.

    GINGRICH: Look, in Cuomo's case, he's the attorney general. I don't understand why he's afraid to ask the people who want to build this, Where's the money coming from? Non-profits report...

    VAN SUSTEREN: Where is it coming from?

    GINGRICH: We don't know.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Are they obliged to tell us?

    GINGRICH: Well, they're talking about bringing in $100 million to build this, and I think we ought to find out, Where does the money come from?

    But in addition, I find it very offensive to get lectured about religious liberty at a time when there are no churches and no synagogues in Saudi Arabia and when no Christian and no Jew can walk into Mecca. And the idea that somebody who's not -- certainly not saying, Why don't we have an interfaith facility -- I mean, I'd love to have these folks say, Let's build a church and a synagogue in Mecca, or rather in Saudi Arabia, and that would balance off our having an interfaith mosque (INAUDIBLE) They're not saying that. It is entirely one-sided and it is entirely, I think, a kind of triumphalism that we should not tolerate.

     

     

    VAN SUSTEREN: Well, what -- what makes you -- I mean, why would Mayor Bloomberg be in favor of it? Because he certainly doesn't want, I mean, insult the...

    GINGRICH: I think you should ask. I mean, I can't -- I can't imagine...

    VAN SUSTEREN: (INAUDIBLE) what he said -- in fact, Governor -- the interesting thing is that Sarah Palin came out against it. And Mayor Bloomberg responded, saying that the -- that efforts to derail the mosque are un-American.

    GINGRICH: See, and I just think that's baloney. I mean, I -- I -- look, I like Mike a lot. He's a very good mayor. I don't know why he's taking this position. The idea of a 13-story building set up by a group many of whom, frankly, are very hostile to our civilization -- and I'm talking now about the people who organized this, many of whom are apologists for sharia, which is a form of law that I think we cannot allow in this country, period.

    And I think that we have to recognize this is a fundamental choice here, and the radical Islamists -- not -- not Muslims who want to live their own lives and co-exist with Christians and Jews, the radical Islamists who are triumphalists who want to dominate the rest of us need to be confronted by us. And this mosque is an illustration of what they're trying to do.

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right, another hot button topic. Oliver Stone, Oscar-winning director -- he is -- he has decried what he says -- the Jewish lobby's control over Washington's foreign policy, and he said Hitler's actions should be put in context.

    GINGRICH: You know, I think this puts the Academy in Hollywood right in the middle of a big problem. Anyone who says Hitler's acts have to be put in context I think should be ostracized.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Is he delusional?

    GINGRICH: I don't know what he is, but I -- Adolf Hitler was an evil person. What he did was an evil series of actions...

    VAN SUSTEREN: I don't think he doubts that. He -- I mean, that...

    GINGRICH: Then what does he mean by "put in context"?

    VAN SUSTEREN: I -- I'm not going to be an apologist for Oliver Stone, that's for sure!

    GINGRICH: Look, Callista and I filmed at Auschwitz and -- when we did our movie on Pope John Paul II. And it's horrifying. And I would just say that -- that I don't know what Stone's excuse is. I don't know if he was quoted out of context. I don't know if he didn't really say it...

    VAN SUSTEREN: Let's hope it's out of context. Let's hope his -- his...

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    GINGRICH: But I think he owes the country a real explanation. And I think unless it's an apology and a fundamental restatement that the Academy has to do something to take Stone head on because I can't -- I don't see how Hollywood can tolerate somebody who is an apologist for Hitler.

    VAN SUSTEREN: And of course, he said the Jewish lobby's control over Washington's foreign policy.

    GINGRICH: Which I just think is -- again, this the kind of language that I find totally unacceptable and frankly totally untrue.

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Former governor of Vermont said -- Howard Dean said yesterday about you, They, meaning the Republican Party, desperately need some intellectual leadership. Now, I suppose you don't -- do you agree with Howard Dean on this?

    GINGRICH: Well, I think -- I think the Republican Party has a number of great leaders, including people like Paul Ryan, Mitch Daniels, Tim Pawlenty. I think that there are lots of Republicans who -- they may not have Howard Dean's particular ideology, but they could certainly match...

    VAN SUSTEREN: But you loved it! Come on! You loved it!