NORTH: I think it is worse. I think it's worst in large part because if we don't recognize who your enemy is -- and this was written 2000 years ago -- you will lose. We have not recognized the enemy to be radical Islam. We've created all kinds of names for it like Al Qaeda and Hamas and Islamic Jihad, but in fact, it is radical Islam. It's not war against all Muslims. It's radical Islam. What we've failed to do is to define the enemy so you know how to combat it.

HANNITY: But how widespread do you think this is, because I think it's far more widespread than people are willing to acknowledge.

NORTH: I will tell you what they're advertising for right now are martyrs that will blow themselves up in American missions not in the Middle East, but in other countries.

For example, I mean, it's easy to get in and out of Venezuela where we do have a diplomatic mission. It's easy to get in if you're a member of Hamas and Hezbollah because we've tracked people down there. If that kind of thing starts happening on a global scale of going after our diplomats, our military bases, and our commercial interests, we're up the creek, buddy.

HANNITY: But everybody had it wrong about Egypt and the Arab Spring. I said the Muslim Brotherhood would come in power. You said it, but very few people saw what was coming. What do you see coming next?

NORTH: I see the growth of an Islamic threat, the potency of which is behind -- what's behind it is Iran.

HANNITY: How does Israel survive that?

NORTH: Well, look, to a certain extent, everybody is right. If enough pressure is brought to bear against Iran, there would be an uprising.

HANNITY: But there's not.

NORTH: I understand. You asked me what if, so I'm saying if there was enough pressure brought to bear against Iran, you would not have the outcome forecast in the book. You would not have the outcome that's played out as we see it today in the Middle East.

Iran is the problem. Bringing pressure on Israel to stop defending itself is the wrong approach. What they ought to be doing is taking the fight to Iran because ultimately the Turks and the Egyptians and the Saudis are all threatened by Iran.

HANNITY: Why do I look at the world and economically I see we're back in the 1930s. Why do I see also we've got the rise of extremism and we still have, you know, why do I see Obama as the Neville Chamberlain of our time. Is that unfair?

NORTH: Two reasons. Number one, it's not flattery. You and I know each other well. You're a student of history. You know the history. Number two, we are repeating the same steps, appeasement and denial. We denied for years what Hitler's goal was for the Jewish people and what his goals were for the people of Europe. We denied it. He wrote a book about it in 1923 and said if I get to power, this is what I want to do. Everybody said we don't believe it so we didn't.

We're in that same situation today with the leadership that we have in Washington.

HANNITY: The same goal, the annihilation of Israel as a state, and they are serious and they are taking the step to achieve it. And the United States is either in denial and sitting on the sidelines and Iran keeps building their weapons of mass destruction coupled with fanaticism equals what?

NORTH: And they've told us what the target is, the great Satan and the little Satan. Tel Aviv is going to be target number one for an Iranian nuclear weapon. The folks in Jerusalem, in Bibi Netanyahu's administration, they understand that.

HANNITY: Why would they even negotiate at this point a cease-fire when all that is going to happen is -- because these cowards, what they're doing is they are hiding behind mosques and schools and hospitals where they fire the weapons. They'll be a retreat, reload, rearm, and then they'll come back again with a bigger weapon.

NORTH: So why would the Israelis accommodate that?

HANNITY: Right.

NORTH: Because they're being told very quietly by the government of the United States under the table that if you continue to press this, the parts chain to maintain your air force that you will need to defend your country against Iran, that parts chain is going to slow down.

HANNITY: Doesn't there come a point of no return, though?

NORTH: Yes and that's why above every public building in Israel, not all of them, but many of them, are the words "never again." It's not a political slogan. It's because they remember what happened.

HANNITY: But couldn't again happen? Why do I fear it could?

NORTH: Well, we ought to be very concerned. We ought to be standing up to the Iranians.

HANNITY: I agree with you.

NORTH: Instead of bashing the Israelis. Again, I'm not trying to beat the drum. I don't have the gift of prophecy.

HANNITY: This is as close as you get. We got a roll. You're going to be at the Huntington Book Revue (ph) tomorrow.

NORTH: Yes. You're going to be there tomorrow.

HANNITY: It's 6:30.

NORTH: You got it. See you there.

HANNITY: I am?

NORTH: Yes. He will be there, ladies and gentlemen.

HANNITY: I've got a job to do, you know. Thank you.

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