This is a rush transcript from "Glenn Beck," September 3, 2010. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
GLENN BECK, HOST: Hello, America. Glad you're here tonight.
We have — I think this is going to be an interesting show. Tonight, we've been doing our "Founding Fathers' Fridays," or — I don't even know what we call them anymore — but we've been doing those and I want to — I want to do something a little different tonight. I want to build off of what we started to build at the very beginning of the summer and that is on the faith of our Founding Fathers and what changed it, how did that happen.
We told you the story of George Whitefield. George Whitefield is a guy from England who just started — he was kicked out of all the churches because they were like — wait a minute, no, no, no, power goes to us. And he was saying to the people: No, power comes from God. And you don't really need anybody in between you and God. Listen to God, God will tell you what to do. Have a personal relationship with God.
Well, that changed things here in America because he came over on the boat and he decided — wow! I mean, America is going into spiritual darkness. It's what's called the First Great Awakening and it spread to all of the preachers. Those preachers preached that from 1740 until 1780. And that period inspired our Founders. A lot of the words that came right directly from the pulpit are in the founding documents.
Well, we talked a little bit about this on this program. And then, last Friday, 8/27 — the night before — my wife and I rented the Kennedy Center, and we invited a few people to speak, along with David Barton and I. And then we filled the Kennedy Center with preachers, pastors and rabbis. I think we had about 2,000 of them or something like that, and then we filled the rest of the Kennedy Center with just people, normal people. In fact, was anybody in the audience? You two were in that audience? None of them made this.
Tickets were really hard to come by. And we have been playing it now in the Insider Extreme at GlennBeck.com. But this is — people said, that attended, this was better than the 8/28 event because it really was the nuts and bolts of spirituality and what we need to do.
When Alveda King walked in, she looked pretty beat up that night. And she was — she was under threat and everything else for standing with me on the stage the next day. And she walked in to the Kennedy Center and I was walking toward the stage, and she walked in, she looked so tired. I said, "Alveda, get ready because you're going too feel it here." And she stood there for just a few minutes and we talked and she walked backstage and she said, "Whoa, I do feel something happening."
She told me the next day as she was getting ready to walk on stage, she said, "Glenn Beck, the next time you tell me to expect miracles and have something big happen, I'm going to believe you."
Something huge is happening in America. I believe it's the third Great Awakening. George Whitefield, the first one, led to the American Revolution. The second one started with the churches and led to the freeing of slaves with Abraham Lincoln. This one I think is going to change just as much.
It is — an awakening happens when people realize the stuff that they built their life on is meaningless. And there's corruption and everything else. And it's nothing political. It's spiritual in nature.
So, I'm going to go over the — well, here, let me take you here to the chalkboard. And I want to show you here the — this is what I talked about. I've been talking about this for a year.
The media is now — the media is now calling in because of the speech last week, they're like, is Glenn Beck becoming a preacher? No. When did this start? Last year. Faith, hope and charity. Thanks for watching.
Faith, hope and charity — this is the answer. People are going to the election booth I think and they're saying, hey, we got to elect a Republican or Democrat. No. No. No, no. The answer is faith, hope and charity.
Then I gave a 40-day challenge. This is what I said on the stage last Friday and I — I beg you to take this, because this is the answer. The end of the Declaration of Independence, my favorite line is: "With firm reliance on Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor." That's the key.
Jefferson loved codes and puzzles. And I believe that is a code.
That's the way out.
What does it mean, "With firm reliance on Divine Providence"? If you are going to have firm reliance on anything, you got to know it. You can't rely on something. You're not going to have firm reliance on a ladder if you — if it looks pretty rickety and you don't — you've never been before. Firm reliance means you trust it. You only trust it because you know it and you know it to be true.
Let me ask you: Why are you going to your church? Why are you going to your synagogue? Why are you doing anything? If you are, why? Is it because, well, you just always have? It's what your family always believed?
In times of great strife, that's not going to cut it. You have to have firm reliance on Divine Providence.
Divine Providence, by the way, is not manifest destiny. Divine Providence is — it's you're in the flow, you're doing things and you're trying to be a better person and you're in what the Founders called the stream of nature's God and nature's laws. And that's why, oh, coincidentally, it looks like something providential is happening. Well, it's because you're in the flow.
Manifest destiny, which our country went through and it's a horror show, is the perversion of that. And that is: Get out of my way, I'm on a mission from God. There is no humility in that and there is no God in that.
You have to know who God is and be humble enough listen to him and get into the flow and depend on him. If you know who God is, you'll know who you are. And you'll know that you have a purpose.
You're born at this time for a reason. I don't know what it is.
You're going to have to figure it out. But everybody has a reason to live.
The media will ridicule you if they say, I mean know, the Kellogg, I don't know, Institute or all I can think of is not the business school but the cornflake people. I wish it was the cornflake people. I like them better.
But the Kellogg Institute wanted to do a study on my company and they he said, because all the decisions you make appear to be wrong and yet they all work out. And I was talking to my business partner and I said, oh, they're going to be so sorely disappointed when they hear the answer because they'll never believe it.
The answer is, on how we make decisions, we pray on it. And then we just do it. It may seem wrong. A lot of times you're like, you got to be kidding me. But that's what happens.
Now, maybe it's all a coincidence that things work out or maybe there's something to relying on Divine Providence and knowing that God talks to each one of us. They'll make fun of you for saying, oh, I'm listening to God. Oh, are you? He's listening to voices.
No, no. He's just listening to that small still voice inside.
"With firm reliance on Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives" — that means you don't get to do all the stuff that you might think you wanted to do. It means that you're going to have to give some stuff up. You're going to have to volunteer. It means you're going to have to — maybe you can't retire at 65 because you got work to do.
It's not necessarily dying for what you believe in. It's like George Washington. When they knocked on his door after he retired and said, I'm going to be a farmer. They knocked on his door because the country was falling apart, and he answered the door and he said, "Have I not done yet enough for my country?"
No. No. God is never done with you.
Our lives, our fortunes — this means make the hard sacrifices. I have to tell you, the hardest thing for me to get my arms around was tithing. Tithe 10 percent. You got to be kidding me. My agent takes 10 percent. I have to give God 10 percent? What's left for little old me?
It was the best decision I ever made. You never feel charitable on Tax Day but you feel charitable when you turn in 10 percent. You do. It makes a difference. It makes you feel good. It will change you.
Prove me wrong. Try it. Try it.
And the best thing is, now, I can call up my agent and I can say, "Gosh, I'm really clear on what God did for me this week. What have you done?"
Fortunes and sacred honor. A lot of our founders, they lost their lives, they lost their fortunes, but they never lost their sacred honor. That means tell the truth, especially when it hurts you.
So, faith, hope, and charity and the 40-day, 40-night challenge. Find these things out. Make them true in your own life. That's our topic today. And I have three of my new favorite people:
Dave Roever is here. Dave is a decorated Vietnam veteran and the founder of the Roever Foundation. He is joining us, believe it or not, from Wasilla, Alaska, at Governor Palin's home.
Can we roll the tape of what happened earlier? Dave, you had the most high-powered, high-priced make-up artist ever.
DAVE ROEVER, VIETNAM VETERAN: I did. And —
BECK: She —
ROEVER: And as wonderful a person as I've ever known.
BECK: Yes. Sarah was — we were trying to find a studio because you were up in Alaska and we're trying to find a studio. And Sarah volunteered hers. And then when we said, we'll have a make-up artist come over and she's like, I'll do his make-up.
And then we also have, from Seattle, Rabbi Daniel Lapin, the founder of the American Alliance of Jews and Christians. He is in Seattle, Washington.
Hello, Rabbi. How are you?
RABBI DANIEL LAPIN, AMERICAN ALLIANCE OF JEWS AND CHRISTIANS: Hi, Glenn. How are you doing?
BECK: I'm very good. You were quite amazing. All three of you were, you were quite amazing on last Friday in the Kennedy Center.
And thank you for being here today.
And Miles McPherson, he is pastor of the Rock Church in San Diego. He is the author of a book called, "Do Something: Make Your Life Count." He's also former defensive back for the San Diego Chargers.
Miles, how are you?
PASTOR MILES MCPHERSON, THE ROCK CHURCH, SAN DIEGO: How are you doing?
BECK: OK. So, let — I mean, let me just start here and you guys just feel free to chime in at any time. There are people now that are starting to print that I'm building some political coalition, blah, blah, blah. This has nothing to do with politics.
But is there any disagreement here that if we do these things, everything will change?
MCPHERSON: Well, I can speak for myself. You talk about the Great Awakening. We all have to have a personal great awakening.
And I went through a period when I was using cocaine and living wild when I was playing in the NFL and I was doing all the things the world
says: chase money, women, drugs, happiness, fun, do what you want on your terms and it was killing me. I found myself in a crack house, with a crack pipe two feet away in my friend's hand watching my life go up in smoke.
And Christ came into my life and said, and when I found God, as you were talking about, and I found out who he made me and whom he created me to be, my life changed. I got off cocaine in one day. And God said, now, I'm going to show why I gave you the big mouth you have and you're going to talk about me.
And so, you know, I pastor a church, the Rock Church in San Diego, I want to say to everybody, hello, everybody in San Diego.
But if people find out who they got is God, we are made in image of God, you got to know whose image you're made in and what that means. Then your life will become fulfilled and your purpose clear would be very clear.
BECK: Rabbi, can you tell us a little bit about discovering God or made in image of God?
LAPIN: Well, yes, very much so. I mean, the — for me personally, a transformational moment was when I realized, after many years of studying the Bible, it was early 20s already before one of my revered teachers said to me, look, the Bible is not a dusty document about detailing legends of long forgotten cultures and people that are no longer on the planet. It is God's comprehensive matrix of all reality.
And that is the essence of the ancient Jewish wisdom that then wrapped my own life as I realized that even something like politics is nothing more than the practical application of our mostly deeply held values. And so, in shaping culture, and I do believe that the word "culture" which comes from the old word for religion. I mean, the word "cult," nowadays you think of Jim Jones and Kool-Aid, but originally, in English, cult is just another word for religion. Early Christianity was a cult, it was a religion.
Culture is the kind of society shaped by its religion. And I think one of the greatest cover-ups of the 20th century has been the extent to which people have forgotten and been made to forget the role of religion in sculpting the shape of the society. So, having the right fundamental values flows from their directly into the practical application of the area of politics.
So, what you were saying on Saturday, Glenn, was precisely to the point, which is that: focus on the things that really count. Let's pay attention to our boss, father in heaven. Follow the instructions and the practical application, what we need to do and the way we need to influence and bring along our friends and neighbors, will flow almost automatically from that.
BECK: Dave, my — the founder of my church said one time: Teach people correct principles and let them govern themselves. That's the way it should be. I mean, there's concern. I saw it in the paper, "Glenn Beck is talking about a theocracy." No. No. I'm a small government guy.
Teach people correct principles and they'll figure it out on their own.
ROEVER: Well, there is a school of thought that says, if you change the heart of a man, he will change his environment. The other school of thought is, if you change the environment, you'll change the heart of man. And the Bible says, the heart of man is deceitfully wicked above all things who can know it. I believe, until we change our heart, until God has a supreme rulership and he sits on the throne of our lives, I don't think we expect anything out of the culture but more corruption.
And let's just pray that —
BECK: OK. Let me —
ROEVER: Go ahead.
BECK: Let me — let me say with you on that. We live in a culture now that wants everything right now. And if we don't get it, well, then, it's somebody else's fault.
And, Dave, I mean, I know you have a great sense of humor about yourself and what you went through, but you are a remarkable individual.
If there's anyone, you had a phosphorous grenade go off as you were in Vietnam and that burns half the temperature of the sun. And, you know, you look the way you do. If there's anybody that could cry "poor me," it's you.
And that really is kind of where our culture is, is that we cry "poor me," all the time. What is the secret of — first, I guess, let me go here: What is the damage to the soul if you just say "poor me"? And then we'll go to, what's the secret of getting out?
ROEVER: The first thing the damage to the soul is, you are less than what God has created you to be. And when that grenade exploded and blew my face off and my fingers off, and mutilated my body, I was still the same guy that God created me to be. I mean, I look the same.
And when teenagers say, dude, what happened to your face? And I'll tell them, I was burned bobbing for French friends, they burst out in laughter. One of them even said to me, he said, did you get one?
ROEVER: These kids are saying, hey, he doesn't look the same, but look at his joy, look at the happiness, look at the excitement in his life.
And I'm not the best example, but I'm the only one I've got to refer back to. And that is to say that the joy of the Lord in my life is not based upon my physical appearance.
I see people uglier than me all the time that never were burned. I want to say, dude, what happened to your mother! You know you're ugly when you are born and the doctor slaps her.
So, I know that God had a plan for my life, that an injury didn't have the right to take away that joy.
ROEVER: God established in me his throne. The Bible says there's two places for throne of God. One is in heaven and the other is the heart of man. He built his throne in my heart. And the damage to my body will not distract from that. I don't want to talk too long here so I'll stop there.
If it comes back to me I have a thought for you.
BECK: All right. Well, hang on. Let me go back to Miles here, because the victim card is played a lot. And I know a ton of parents who will say about their kids, they'll be called by the school and they'll say, "Oh, it's not my kid." Yes, it is. It is your kid. It's my kid. It's all of our kids.
But we play the victim card and we — you know, we play it all the time.
How do we get out of that? How did you pull yourself out and say, no, there is a purpose for me?
MCPHERSON: You know, faith is a substance of things hopeful of the evidence of things not seen. We are created as creatures of faith. Every time you inhale, you take a step of faith. Every time you don't jump of building, you take a step of faith, because you trust there's something that you can't see that will affect your life.
Matter of fact, the greatest step of faith we take every day is loving somebody. We take our heart and we say, I'm trusting you with my heart. That's a type of faith.
So, we are created as creatures of faith. The problem is, faith is based on fact, not feeling. A lot of times, we base our faith on what we see others go through and what we think, versus not what's factual.
And so, when I was doing my thing, and when we were all doing our thing, we were basing our faith on things that people told us that weren't factual experiences — feelings, desires, lust — instead of facts. And when you put your faith in fact and see the facts always come through, God — as you said in the beginning — when you pray, you do — it works out. God is always faithful.
And so, when we find ourselves living self-destructive lives, it's because we're putting our faith in a lie. When we put our faith in the truth, things work out. That's the difference.
BECK: So, Rabbi, let me go here on faith, because I think this is our biggest problem in our country, is we have put our faith in things that are untrue.
We have bought the big lie. We have can't have it all. Character doesn't matter, et cetera, et cetera.
I want to — we have to take a break. And then I want to come back and start there. Why do those things matter? Why do those things matter?
Back in a second.
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