• This is a rush transcript from "Your World With Neil Cavuto," January 21, 2009. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

    NEIL CAVUTO, HOST: All right, Hillary Clinton is the next secretary of state, overwhelmingly approved in the United States Senate.

    There had been a dustup, you might recall, over whether her husband's ties, the Clinton Foundation's ties, to some foreign donors would represent a conflict of interests for her. The senator, now secretary of state-designate, had indicated they would go through hoops to make sure that such conflicts never arise. And, apparently, that was enough to satisfy the overwhelming number of senators, who felt that she deserved to be the secretary of state.

    Very quick reaction from Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is actually here on environmental issues. But this news popped up.

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    Your quick reaction to this.

    ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR., NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL: You know, I think Obama has himself a really good secretary of state. If you saw her at the confirmation, she was prepared. She is smart. She is quick. She is thoughtful.

    And she is — we know and you know that she is diplomatic personally. So, I think — I don't think he could have gotten a better choice.

    CAVUTO: Do you think that this whole Gitmo thing about eventually closing it puts her in a box? She had one view on this subject, Robert, against it — against Gitmo, but not against closing it — I think that was the ending campaign position — and now a president, a boss who says...


    KENNEDY: No, she is going to do what her boss wants her to do.

    CAVUTO: Yes.

    KENNEDY: And I think, in the long run — I saw the piece you had on before this about some of the technical problems it's going to cause.

    But, you know, Neil, I travel all over the world, and it has given this country such a black eye, that it's a — really, it's a public relations catastrophe for us. And the quicker we close it, the better.

    CAVUTO: But all these countries who criticize, it's weird. They don't want the prisoners either.

    KENNEDY: It's not only the countries. It's the people. It is just what it has come to symbolize, that this is a place where Americans torture people.

    CAVUTO: Yes, but where do these people go, then?

    KENNEDY: And that's what it is always now going to symbolize, because we crossed a line that we had never crossed in our history before. After World War II...


    CAVUTO: Well, someone crossed the line with us, right?

    KENNEDY: After World War II, we executed Japanese officers for water- boarding Americans. So, this is a place — we never tortured people. George Washington, during the Revolution, refused to torture British soldiers, even though they were torturing us, our soldiers, right here in New York Harbor.

    Abraham Lincoln, actually, when he was confronted with the idea of torturing people, he was so horrified that he created a commission that developed the humane standards for fair treatment of prisoners of war. And that later became the Geneva Conventions.


    CAVUTO: Understood. But you don't think this would be a divisive issue between the secretary of state and the new president?

    KENNEDY: No, I think absolutely that everybody I think who — will understand.



    KENNEDY: Anybody who has to deal with foreign governments and foreign populations is going to understand that this has got to go.

    CAVUTO: Understood.

    While I have got you here, then, your cousin Caroline front-runner for that supposed Senate seat that is opening up, what do you think of that?

    KENNEDY: I hope she gets it. There's an electorate of one. So, it's all up to David Paterson.

    CAVUTO: What do you think of the criticism she got?

    KENNEDY: We're in New York, Neil. Everybody gets criticized in New York.


    CAVUTO: Well, why not you? You have experience.

    KENNEDY: I couldn't do it. As we discussed before, I have six kids, and it's a lot mouths to feed. They all want to eat, and they all want to go to school.


    CAVUTO: I thought you were a Kennedy. You had money coming out the yin-yang. No?

    KENNEDY: Well, I have always had to make my own money.