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This is a rush transcript from "The Five," November 22, 2011. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Welcome back to "The Five." Bob is in my shot.
So, Occupy Wall Street now plans to occupy the Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving, which makes me wonder, how do you occupy one day? If you can do, can you occupy certain hours or even seconds?
Technically, aren't we all occupying life? Wow! Should I blow your mind right now? No? OK.
Anyway, hey say they want to raise awareness for income equality and corporate greed. That is code for we might stand outside we might stand outside Neiman Marcus and yell at you.
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Oh, no.
GUTFELD: The point is, to boycott and/or picket large retailers in order to hurt profits which will then subvert the stock market. The protesters heroically claim they are only targeting big companies, which actually hurts more people that way and really, how many 1 percenters work at Target?
But they've also already damaged many small businesses near their occupations, driven out customers with trash, feces and drug use and other well-documented health and crime risks.
So for the last folks who actually think the occupiers are a positive force, I believe I can count them on Bob's toes. He has 12 of them. I ask you to explain how the movement still gets a pass from the Main Street media and Obama -- maybe because bitterly targeting our way of life seems way cooler than buying a pair of magenta corduroy overalls at Wal-Mart. I wear a medium, America.
BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: What's magenta?
GUTFELD: I'll show you later.
BECKEL: OK.
GUTFELD: Hey, Andrea, here's the thing, is this -- how can the movement be positive? They're not making everything. All they want to do is break the system. And isn't this proof that our economy is in trouble and this is what they do is boycott?
ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: Yes. And all they're going to do is tick off the shoppers.
GUTFELD: Yes.
TANTAROS: And as you said, if they're trying to hurt profits, they're -- have you seen the shoppers from Black Friday? They're serious. They're tough.
GUTFELD: There could be violence.
GUILFOYLE: Yes.
TANTAROS: But that's what they want. They want mayhem. They want violence. This way, when cops do something about it, by using, say, pepper spray, which had people up in arms, they whine and they complain, oh, wait a minute. Look, you can't occupy the university. You can't occupy a store. It's unlawful.
And, really, the Democrats make such a mistake by supporting this.
GUILFOYLE: I agree.
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: I have to say -- here, I'm giving a round of applause. Let me go with this.
TANTAROS: What are you doing?
BOLLING: Occupy, you guys did the right thing. Take six. Camera six. Fantastic.
Here is what they did today, Greg? They occupied Obama's speech. That was fantastic. How great was that? They finally woke up and realize everything you're against, corporate greed and all that, cronyism, is going on from the White House directly to all the Obama cronies, whether it's the congress people who are trading illegally or all the transfers of payment of our money to green energy program that aren't working. That's what you need to occupy. Good job.
(CROSSTALK)
BECKEL: First you lost your hat. Now you lost your mind.
BOLLING: They found the real place to occupy. It's the White House.
GUTFELD: You have to agree. This is a bit much.
BECKEL: Listen, I'm going to surprise you all here and tell you that I think this is a bad idea because it affects jobs. I don't think you ought to be affecting jobs by going and protesting in front of store where people are trying to make a decent -- trying to make a living. Not a very decent living. I might say that if you get in the way of these two going to Neiman Marcus --
TANTAROS: That's my point. Occupy Wall Street
(CROSSTALK)
BECKEL: If you see stiletto heels, it's going to be right through you buddy. Now that I said that, now that I made this concession -- can I now see the poll?
GUTFELD: No poll. No poll.
BECKEL: No poll?
GUTFELD: Obama in New Hampshire was heckled. I want to play it and then let's talk this, if we will.
GUILFOYLE: Sure.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: OK, guys.
(CHANTING)
OBAMA: I appreciate you guys making your point, let me go ahead and make mine, all right? And I'll listen to you and you listen to me.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUTFELD: I didn't get it. That's what Eric was talking about when he got up. But I wanted to show people, that's what he was talking about. Kimberly, what happens when the occupiers are now turning on President Obama? Is it his time to finally say enough is enough?
GUILFOYLE: OK. But are you kidding? He is the president of the United States. They are angry about the state of the economy and what is going on in the world, and given to big business, this and that. And, you know, they feel they could be entitled to this stuff. It's under his watch. This is his mess.
GUTFELD: I want to show a poll.
(CROSSTALK)
TANTAROS: They're his base.
GUILFOYLE: It's just ridiculous.
(CROSSTALK)
GUILFOYLE: But it's just so hypocritical. If it was George Bush, president right now, let me tell you something -- they'd be going bananas about it.
BECKEL: That's because George Bush is responsible for this stuff.
Hey, listen, on the pepper spray thing, I got to say one thing here. I have been hit by pepper spray in demonstrations. It's not fun.
GUTFELD: That was on a date.
BECKEL: By the way, those thugs who did these things, cops who did this, look at this. They are thugs. They are thugs. The cops are thugs. They should not have used pepper spray.
GUTFELD: Can we add? Can we talk about what pepper spray is use for? It's to prevent the police from actually making physical contact and causing injury. They try to find new alternative ways to do thing. These kids were warned. They didn't move.
And, by the way, the whole movement is about creating confrontation. Whole point of occupy Wall Street. So, people can get filmed getting involved with the cops.
GUILFOYLE: Right.
GUTFELD: And it worked. But we're not dumb enough to see -- I am not going to see this as the victims. The cops don't want to do it either, Bob. They don't want to be --
(CROSSTALK)
BECKEL: Oh, no.
GUTFELD: Do you think a police officer gets up in the morning and goes, I want to use pepper spray --
BECKEL: I think that a lot of these cops are so tired of these people that they would be more than happy to --
GUTFELD: Wouldn't you be tired of them?
BECKEL: No.
GUILFOYLE: The problem is they're at university, right?
BECKEL: They are breaking the law. So is most of Wall Street.
BOLLING: They should spray them with, like, you know, that water spray, clean them up a little bit.
TANTAROS: Bob, why where are you pepper sprayed? Tell us.
BECKEL: It was the anti-Vietnam War protest. And tear gassed and pepper sprayed.
BOLLING: You and Jane Fonda?
BECKEL: Yes, Jane is a good friend of mine.
GUILFOYLE: And Che?
BECKEL: Nothing wrong with Che. He was a good man.
GUTFELD: Do we want to go to the Newt Gingrich -- let's quickly, this is what Newt had to say Saturday at the forum in Iowa about Occupy Wall Street.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
NEWT GINGRICH, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: They take over a public park they didn't pay for, to go nearby to use bathrooms they didn't pay for, to instruct those who are going to work to pay their taxes to sustain the bathroom and to sustain the park. That is a pretty good symptom of how much the left has collapsed as a moral system in this country. And why you need to reassert something as simple as saying to them: Go get a job right after you take a bath.
(APPLAUSE)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUTFELD: You agree, don't you, Bob?
BECKEL: I disagree. I thought Newt was doing a pretty good job and he was finally getting rid of the old Newt. That disgraceful comment -- first of all, I used to hear that when I protest the Vietnam War, "Go get a bath," from the same people that killed 50,000 Americans.
GUTFELD: Oh, c'mon!
BECKEL: Number one. And number two, when he says go get a job, Newt, you are saying there are no jobs. Where are do they supposed to get jobs? Do you have a clue, Newt? No, you don't have a clue.
GUTFELD: Here's the deal, from the beginning, I made a simple point, behind get Obama's jobs programs. The movement was started by anarchists to create confrontation. That's all it is. The only people left right there are there to film and foment violence.
BECKEL: That's what they said about the Vietnam War protests.
GUTFELD: By the way, every -- how many people in your age bracket were at the protests?
BECKEL: A lot. A lot.
GUTFELD: If we count it up, there'd be 500 million who claimed to be there.
BECKEL: You were too short to be drafted.
Who is taking us out? Greg, go ahead.
GUILFOYLE: They're going to PhotoShop themselves in.
GUTFELD: The short insult was unnecessary.
BECKEL: I know. That's OK.
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