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Chef under fire for threatening to refuse service to patrons wearing MAGA hats
Published February 01, 2019
This is a rush transcript from "The Five," February 1, 2019. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
DANA PERINO, HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Katie Pavlich, Juan Williams, Jesse Watters, and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is “The Five.”
America, are you ready for this?
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SEN. CORY BOOKER, D-N.J.: This is about the closest I'll probably ever have in my life to an I am Spartacus moment.
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PERINO: Senator Cory Booker joining the already crowded 2020 Democratic presidential field. Booker on The View today explaining why he's running and also defending his Spartacus moment.
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BOOKER: I'm running to restore our sense of common purpose, to focus on the common pain that we have all over this country. We can do better.
That was one of my prouder moments sticking up for people. And when I was threatened to be thrown out of the Senate, I told the senator to bring it.
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PERINO: And 2020 hopeful, Elizabeth Warren, now apologizing to the Cherokee nation for taking a DNA test to prove she has Native American ancestry. Warren also continuing to go after billionaires.
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SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN, D-MASS.: I want these billionaires to stop being free loaders. I want them to pick up their fair share. That's how we make a system that works not just for the rich and for the powerful but works for all of us. All I'm asking for is a little slice from the tippy-tippy top.
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PERINO: And Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez causing controversy for calling for a 70 percent tax on the wealthiest Americans. But another freshman representative saying it needs to be even higher than that.
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REP. ILHAN OMAR, D-MINN.: You could increase the taxes that people are paying who are the extremely wealthy in our community, so 70 percent, 80 percent. We've had it as high as 90 percent.
I'm also one that really looks at the defense budget that we have. That has increased nearly 50 percent since 9/11.
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PERINO: All right, we have a lot to talk about, 2020. Jeff -- Jesse?
GREG GUTFELD, HOST: Jeff? Jesse. Jeff Wilson. Hey, Jeff Wilson in for Jesse Watters. Jeff Wilson, how are you, Jeff?
PERINO: Back to you in a jiffy.
JESSE WATTERS, HOST: Yes.
PERINO: All right, Jesse, so the left wing credentials of Senator Booker already coming under attack from the left because he's refusing to say that he would eliminate private insurance companies.
WATTERS: Oh, wow, really taking a stand there. He's actually a pretty pro-business --
PERINO: Yeah.
WATTERS: -- Democrat if those exists anymore. I found out that if he's elected president he will be the first single president and the first vegan president.
GUTFELD: No, he's -- James -- was it Buchanan?
PERINO: Is he vegan?
GUTFELD: No. He wasn't --
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GUTFELD: -- bachelor -- is Buchanan bachelor?
WATTERS: I have no idea.
KATIE PAVLICH, HOST: Yeah. Yeah. I think you're right. I think you're right.
GUTFELD: That Buchanan was a bachelor.
WATTERS: I have no idea. We can fact check that.
PERINO: There's never been a vegan.
GUTFELD: No, there's never been a vegan.
WATTERS: Never been a vegan. We're definitely sure about that. So, yeah, the Spartacus moment he became a laughing stock. That's going to be hard to live down. But Cory Booker is kind of created this mythology around himself. You know, he has this dramatic rescue in Newark. He did these P.R. stunts like hunger strikes and sleeping on the streets.
But he's got a very strange personal situation. He has -- there's a lot of rumors swirling around him. He had a sexual assault allegation. I don't really know how that's going to play out, but he definitely didn't give Kavanaugh the benefit of the doubt that his situation deserved.
The Newark story with Cory is not all it's cracked up to be. Crime spiked. He laid-off a ton of cops. It wasn't all, you know, sunshine and dandelions over there. It's a pretty rough city. And he definitely did not turn it around. To be said though, he has great chemistry with people on the street, can really work a room, and as I said before, very pro- growth Democrat.
PERINO: OK. I want you to take a look at the way he announced, Greg. It's February 1st.
GUTFELD: Right.
PERINO: Beginning of black history month and he released an ad that was actually quite good. Take a look.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I believe that we can build a country where no one is forgotten. No one is left behind, where our criminal justice system keeps us safe instead of shuffling more children into cages and coffins, where we see the faces of our leaders on television and feel pride not shame. It is not a matter of can we.
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GUTFELD: OK.
PERINO: Greg?
GUTFELD: So, I figured out how he talks.
WATTERS: Tell us.
GUTFELD: He enunciates as though he just ate a really hot slice of pizza. My God, this is a very hot slice of pizza. My mouth is on fire. My mouth is in flames. I -- get a doctor. That's how he sounds.
By the way, I think one of the key things that he has right now that the others don't is a bit of optimism. He seems like he's kind of positive. I think the danger the Democrats -- and we've showed those clips with the new congresswoman -- you don't want to be on the wrong side of a good thing.
And right now the Democrats are on the wrong side of a lot of good things. They're talking about socialism, not the economy, too much punitive redistribution, oppressive finger pointing. Everything about America they are critical of. So they're placing themselves on the wrong side of the American dream. And as long -- and you can separate yourself and become a contrast to this by being patriotic, being pro-American, pro-economy. I know you're laughing, Juan.
JUAN WILLIAMS, HOST: Yeah because -- who's not -- wait a second. What did you say? You think Cory Booker is not American, not pro-American.
PERINO: He didn't say that.
GUTFELD: You've just said the exact opposite.
WILLIAMS: I don't get it.
GUTFELD: No, because you're not listening. You're too busy hackling.
WILLIAMS: The way you separate yourself out is to be pro-American. Who's not pro-American?
GUTFELD: No.
PERINO: That's not what he said.
GUTFELD: That's not what I said.
WILLIAMS: Well, I don't understand it.
GUTFELD: All right. I said that he is a positive person in the sense that he's patriotic, that he's pro-American. That's my point about the contrast, OK?
WILLIAMS: Contrast to whom?
GUTFELD: To the rest of the party.
WILLIAMS: Oh, so the rest are not pro-American --
GUTFELD: Now you're listening.
WILLIAMS: Oh --
GUTFELD: Thank you, Juan.
WILLIAMS: -- maybe now you're trying to make sense for the first time.
GUTFELD: All right. So you're actually making a really good point. You've got to look -- don't look at the parties, look at the media's obsession with polarizing half of the country. They don't -- the media doesn't want a centrist --
PERINO: Right.
GUTFELD: -- because a centrist isn't a business model. You've got a hard left person, and to go up against Trump, that's a great business model. But if you have a centrist whether it's Bloomberg or Schultz, you can't make money. You can't make money off it.
PERINO: Nope. Well, to Juan, a friend of my said that Cory Booker wants to be the standard bearer for an angry party as a nice guy. And in fact, the first question he was asked at his press conference today was by a guy who covered him when he was mayor and he said the Democrats that he's talked to have said how can a message of love beat Trump? I think that was the point.
WILLIAMS: I don't think that too hard because that would be a uniter not a divider, right? Which is the Obama message, right? Hope not fear. And then you go back to actually George W. Bush, compassion. You can back to Bill Clinton, you know, the kid from hope. So I think it's possible to be a uniter and say I'm not fracturing the country like the incumbent.
But I just wanted to say to Jesse, I think I've known Cory Booker a little longer than you have. And I remember when he had to run against an incumbent black mayor in Newark, they've made a film about this, Sharpe James. And he was a guy who took him on and lost, got beaten before he became mayor.
Secondly, he cut the size of the government workforce in Newark. He drove down crime. I think this was before the state budget cuts required some police --
WATTERS: No, crime went up.
WILLIAMS: No, crime went down but then it went back up.
WATTERS: So, over all it went up.
WILLIAMS: No, no, no. But I'm just saying he came in and took steps that decreased the crime rate in a crime ridden city which is Newark, New Jersey.
WATTERS: OK. By the time he left, Newark was the third highest murder per-capita behind Detroit and New Orleans.
WILLIAMS: Because of larger -- that's like saying -- no, that's like saying when Obama came in the economy collapsed. That's not necessarily --
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WATTERS: No, I'm talking about the end of the term.
WILLIAMS: I'm just saying. All right. And the other thing I want to say is on an issue that's very important to me, school choice, school vouchers, guess what? Cory Booker is terrific. And I think conservatives need to be aware of this that he's the one who was willing to say we've got to do better by kids giving them more choice. Giving parents the power --
PERINO: But you're making -- you're helping to make Greg's point --
GUTFELD: Yes. You just made my point. That's OK.
PERINO: -- which is that Cory Booker is bucking the party on a lot of things. Let me ask you though, his first endorsement came in today, Senator Bob Menendez, has a little ethical problem, he just got reelected very handedly .
WATTERS: Did he endorse him with his shirt off?
PERINO: I don't think so. It's a little cold outside. They're not in Puerto Rico.
PAVLICH: Well, look, Bob Menendez is a powerful voice in the Senate. He's someone who's been there for a long time. Cory Booker needs endorsement in the Democratic Party. He's going to have a tough time getting ahead of the field. All of his work in the Senate has really been about, you know, asking tough questions or falsely accusing Brett Kavanaugh, not giving him any due process. It hasn't been about results legislation.
But what there is a record of that doesn't exist in Washington for Cory Booker is his record as mayor. When he left, violent crime in Newark -- violent crime meaning murder, assault, sexual assault -- went up by 33 percent. That's a pretty significant margin especially if you're trying to run against President Donald Trump who's been all about trying to reduce violent crime.
The other thing too is, yes, he has been for education. He is definitely for choosing schools, absolutely good. But there are a lot of questions about corruption during his time in Newark about giving out contracts to his politically affiliated buddies. There's a lot of money that was given by Facebook that kind of disappeared and didn't go to education as was promised.
And so -- and also, I think his comments on race. He has to be very careful about using race as a way to campaign while also not accusing the entire country and people he needs to vote for him in the middle of the country of being racist.
PERINO: Before we go --
WILLIAMS: Can I set a little standard here and just tell you the first mayor in 45 years in Newark not to leave under indictment. I mean, that's --
WATTERS: That's a low bar.
WILLIAMS: It's a low bar. But I just wanted to point out -- you know, if you talk about corruption in Newark, this ain't Cory Booker.
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PERINO: No. He has done -- there was one other development today -- we've talk about Elizabeth Warren and her candidacy a lot. She did make a call today to the Cherokee nation, Jesse, to apologize about the DNA test to prove she had Native American ancestry. And the Cherokee nation accepted the apology and hoped that this would put an end to this. What do you think?
WATTERS: Do you remember that book Choose Your Own Adventure --
PERINO: Yeah.
WATTERS: -- as a child? Do you know how if you made the wrong decision over and over and over again you would just lose? This is what she's done. She should've never had claimed she was a Native American.
PERINO: It's not about the DNA test.
WATTERS: She should've never had taken the DNA test, and then -- she should have never apologized.
PAVLICH: She should have never said she was a minority. She should have never listed herself as a minority to get ahead.
PERINO: What do you think, Greg?
GUTFELD: This bunch, they truly are a sorry bunch, so many apologies in the last month already. I think you have to apologize in order to become a candidate.
WILLIAMS: Well, I think there -- this is being misframed because I think what she apologized was -- the apology was about the Native Americans saying we'll determine who's a member of our tribe. It's not up to blood tests --
PERINO: That's what I've just said about the DNA test.
WILLIAMS: Yeah, so it's not -- she didn't apologize for taking the DNA test.
PERINO: Well, we don't actually know what she apologized for. You can see he letter.
WILLIAMS: She apologized for anyone who said that would be the basis of her inclusion as a member of that tribe.
PERINO: We have seen the letters. We know exactly what it was.
PAVLICH: That is splitting a pretty fine hair.
WILLIAMS: No.
PERINO: Next, a California chef facing backlash after saying he would refuse service to people wearing MAGA hats, believe it or not. Stay with us.
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PAVLICH: A California chef is now apologizing after getting burned for saying he would refuse service to customers who come in wearing a MAGA hat. The chef since deleting the tweet after making the threat where he also compared the hat to a swastika and a white hood.
CNN hosts talking about this issue last night after claiming they don't support these types of bans, they then said this.
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CHRIS CUOMO, CNN HOST: You can refuse service. You know, no shirt, no shoes, no service. How is this any different than the baker with the cake? Well, that was about refusing service to a group of people that should be a protected class.
DON LEMON, CNN HOST: Right.
CUOMO: And unless you could argue that Trump supporters should be a protected class, I don't think you have much of an argument on that. I don't want to fall into the trap of under selling the significance of the trigger of the expression to people.
LEMON: Your clothing tells a story about who you are, what you think about, and what you represent. That hat means everything from -- I would say the beginning of the campaign, maybe before, maybe that hat means the central part five (ph) to people, maybe it means birtherism to people, Maybe it means, you know, Mexicans are rapist to people.
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PAVLICH: Or maybe it just means make America great again, Greg.
GUTFELD: It's like they share one brain. It really is sweet. Look, we've talked about this before. It's not really about a hat. It's about the expansion of a target by the media.
And it is the media's responsibility. It's not -- it's not -- it's no longer about Trump and it's no longer about voting for Trump because if you're not part of the resistance that's enabling. You're just like a storm trooper, right? Remember, you're just like a Nazi if you're not part -- you know, the thing is -- it's not about Trump. It's not about a hat. It's not about voting anymore. It's about just -- any kind of extension to Trump.
So they have widened -- they widened the target now so that it's a cultural witch-hunt. You keep shaking your head, Juan, but we have so many examples of this. It's a cultural witch-hunt for anybody, and it's sanctioned by people like Lemon who say, OK, if you're not part of our group you're evil. This is really bad because we're demonizing half the country.
WILLIAMS: OK. So let me respond, say, the MAGA hats for a lot of people says, if you're not part of our group you're evil.
GUTFELD: Make America Great.
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WILLIAMS: And I think it is a provocative statement. Now, you know, on the face of it I say it's a piece of clothing. That's my -- the fact that I view it as a provocative piece of clothing --
GUTFELD: But why do you do that? Why do you that?
WILLIAMS: I think Don Lemon and I think Cuomo were on target.
GUTFELD: Where did you get the idea?
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WILLIAMS: Oh, where is the idea?
GUTFELD: No. I want to know.
WILLIAMS: I'll tell you, how about David Duke wearing it? How about Caesar say, I think, shooting people when they're riding on the Trump truck holding a MAGA hat.
GUTFELD: So when a racist drinks orange juice, do you then say no more orange juice to me?
WILLIAMS: No. But I'm saying --
GUTFELD: I can't drink orange juice because racist drink orange juice.
WILLIAMS: No. But I'm saying, I thought they made a very good point, Greg, when they said it's a protected class matter of discrimination. Protected class is by gender, by sex, my disability. It's not my political belief.
GUTFELD: I'm OK with them saying -- you know the chef, he's paying his price. That's the way the market should work. If you make a decision, then you pay the price.
WILLIAMS: So it's a free market decision. It's like Nike saying we're backing Colin Kaepernick right now. They've made a decision. This guy apologized. By the way, you know what he apologized to? He apologized to the people who work at the restaurant and his co-investors because it might cause someone not to come to the restaurant. He didn't apologize for saying MAGA hats are provocative.
PAVLICH: Yeah, he didn't -- he claims that he's apologizing. He has a right not to serve people he doesn't want to serve in his restaurants. It's a private business. He can do what he wants. But, Jesse, he didn't really apologize because he then went on to say in his apology that the hat symbolizes anger, hate, and violence. So, you know, it's like own it or not.
WATTERS: Well, if Kanye came in rocking the hat, I wonder if he'd serve Kanye West. I think he would. And the difference between the baker deal, I mean, the baker who is a Christian, when you're asked to bake a gay wedding cake and you're asked to say, you know -- you know, God bless, you know, Dick and John, and there's two guys in the middle, that he was arguing that you then complicit in making a cake that, you know, doesn't represent your Christian values. If you're just serving burgers and fries, you're not participating --
PAVLICH: Not forcing the chef to wear a MAGA hat.
WATTERS: Exactly. It's a totally different analogy. And then, you know, as someone with the authority on sweeping generalizations.
GUTFELD: Of course.
WATTERS: I think that what CNN is doing is to say that this hat represents this to so many people -- permission to make an analogy?
GUTFELD: I would love to see it.
WATTERS: If you have a New England Patriots hat --
PAVLICH: Oh, that's going to make --
WATTERS: -- to some people that might represent cheating, and Spygate, and double homicide, Hernandez, steroids --
PAVLICH: By some people, Jesse means him. Some people --
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WATTERS: To other people that could just mean the Patriots and winning. So I think when this country tells you don't wear this clothing, drive this car, stop saying Merry Christmas, baby it's cold outside is about rape. This is the reason Donald Trump became elected because we're so sick of people telling them what to do, how to think, and what to say.
PAVLICH: But, Dana, the media continues to allow these comparisons to fly without any context. So they continue to say that it represents a KKK hood without any context about what the KKK actually did, and saying that a MAGA hat is equal to that. I feel like that down plays the severity of what the KKK was and something that we have eradicated from most part in this country and not something that we actually condone.
GUTFELD: For yearbooks.
PAVLICH: Except for a yearbook for Democrats.
PERINO: The sweeping generalizations aren't necessarily just only Jesse's specialty.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
WATTERS: Whataboutism.
PERINO: We have that too. It's also another example of why grown people should get off Twitter. And if you think that this is -- he's going to have to apologize to your partners and your -- it's like Twitter is diminishing people's lives.
GUTFELD: And we have to all --
PERINO: Get off.
GUTFELD: -- commit and get off it then.
PERINO: Well, look, I don't --
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GUTFELD: -- every week.
WILLIAMS: I think it's a good idea.
GUTFELD: We should kill this business. For -- we should -- I don't know - - they're using us. We're not getting paid to tweet.
WATTERS: How am I going to promote my show?
GUTFELD: You know what?
PERINO: Nobody on Twitter --
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GUTFELD: Nobody on Twitter listens to any promos. In fact, they hate the promotions.
WATTERS: Really?
PERINO: That tweet about that last week was very funny.
GUTFELD: Yeah. It's like nobody likes to be told --
PERINO: But I saw it on Twitter.
PAVLICH: All right. This is actually social media is what we're talking about next. So, up next, could you give up social media for a month? Greg is going to mandate it. What happens when you do?
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WILLIAMS: Hello. If you're addicted to social media, listen up. A new study shows that staying off of Facebook for one month can improve your overall well-being. If you can do it, researchers say expect more in person time with your family and friends, an extra hour of down time for yourself, and a small bump, this is really important, in your daily mood and satisfaction with life.
Now, in the break, we were having a discussion at the table because we have a bunch of people who are addicted to social media. And I asked you, has it -- is it better to be on it or off it, what do you say?
PAVLICH: I think it's a good -- it's like everything else in moderation. But I have to say this study paid people to be off of it for a month. So if I was getting paid to be off of it, I would -- it would improve my mood to do that, I think.
WILLIAMS: It's a hundred bucks.
PAVLICH: I think it depends on how --
PERINO: I will take a hundred bucks.
PAVLICH: Yeah, exactly. I think it depends on how you use Facebook or social media. If you're using it to catch up with friends you don't get to see a lot or you're using it for your own personal reasons then it's good. If you're using it to have political fights with your cousins or your uncles on Facebook when you should actually be sitting down and having dinner with them instead, that probably puts your mood into a damper.
WILLIAMS: Well, Katie makes an important point, Jesse. It said that, in fact, polarization, political polarization among the group that abstained went way down, 10 percent down in that period.
WATTERS: Yeah, Limbaugh always says if you want to, you know, take a weekend off or a week off and just don't watch television, don't go on social media, you realize, you know, sky is not falling, the world is not ending. And generally, people around you, your neighbors, the people at the store are nice people. They're not trying to cut your throat out and scream about, you know, guns, abortion, and --
PERINO: Your MAGA hat.
WATTERS: And your MAGA hat, exactly. And what has it taught anybody anything, Juan, is that ignorance is bliss. I used to interview people on the street and ask them all types of questions about current events and they had no idea, but they were very happy people.
PAVLICH: They were.
WATTERS: And that's fine.
PAVLICH: That's because they were drunk half the time on a beach. That's why they're happy people. They're in the sun.
WILLIAMS: Was that an endorsement that most of these people are ignorant?
WATTERS: You can take it that way, Juan.
WILLIAMS: I thought -- what is your response?
WATTERS: Not ignorant, just uninformed.
PAVLICH: Uninformed.
WILLIAMS: Uninformed. Dana, what do you make of this? Could you do it, Dana?
PERINO: Yeah, especially if I got a hundred bucks. I could do it. But, OK, this is like --
GUTFELD: You could buy a Facebook ad.
PERINO: Of all the things that I think are the biggest threat to Facebook as a company is I don't think it's fake news, I don't think it's foreign influence. I think it is these studies that show people -- this is a product that can make you sick. It can make you unhappy. It can make you depressed.
And if you have more of this, I think that is actually -- it's not what Mark Zuckerberg imagined. This was going to bring everyone together and there's going to be utopia. I feel like of all the studies and all the things that they've had to deal with at Facebook, this would be the one to me that is the most troubling.
WATTERS: Can I just say one more thing just to not -- I don't mean to cut you off. I heard from a source that a lot of these executives at the social media companies don't allow their own children to have all the face time with the social media.
WILLIAMS: Yes. And I donŸ_Tt know --
PERINO: And this is the other thing I'm going to suggest. This was a study -- get off for a month. If you try this even if you don't get a hundred bucks, imagine how cool it would be if on a Saturday morning, once a month, you're like I'm going to check in and see what my friends from college are doing. I want to see the kid's picture, the baby and the dog pictures and which is like once a month, it would be something you really looked forward to and that you weren't wasting all your time with. And there is a startup opportunity out there. If you could figure out the way for us to be able to get news like we want it without the rest of the stuff, that business could really do well.
WILLIAMS: So, guess what Greg. So, you know on our network at 8 PM Tucker Carlson.
GUTFELD: Yes.
WILLIAMS: Tucker Carlson says that too much use of smartphones and social media leads to higher suicide rates, more loneliness and he says, why don't we have a law.
GUTFELD: There are no laws.
WILLIAMS: No laws.
GUTFELD: Hate laws, hate laws. I want a law against laws. We're blaming social media for something that is actually the fault of the media. See, if you get off Twitter, you're not the problem, right. You're not the one that is pushing narratives that make people angry. OK, So, the business model and I've said it before is the prison of two ideas.
For the media to make its money, we have to be at each other's throats. That's the bottom-line. So, when you go on Twitter, you're not just seeing people who are getting mad at each other for no reason. They're getting mad because they're reading things from wherever and half of it is wrong. I would say, it's inflammatory. I would say, most of it is wrong. That's why I said like where are you getting your ideas about the mega hat. It's because I'm going like why are people - why is that chef so angry.
Well, he read something that made him mad and it's a narrative. So, it's not social media's fault that there is online rage. It's the media that is pushing our buttons and we have to learn never to trust anything on social media, anything even if you see - I've learned this.
WILLIAMS: I agree with you, 100 percent. But I must say, I don't see why you're making the connection to media, because I think a lot of it is us. It's you know we have met the enemy, it's as we put out provocative statements thinking well, I'm going to become a star because everyone's reacting to me on Twitter.
GUTFELD: Well, that's true. We all love attention, but we've made this point that by human beings away from this thing actually are OK. Right. We get along. We don't really care who you voted for. We could like for example if you go - if you're fans of the Patriots, one fan could have voted for Obama. The other one could have been for McCain. That doesn't enter the picture when you're rooting for the Patriots. It's when you get on to social media, that's the pollutant, but the pollutant is driven by the media. The media makes everything bad. I wish we didn't have it.
WILLIAMS: Well, the counterpoint I saw this week was that where local newspapers go away, political polarization increases because people get their news from social media or National ...
GUTFELD: Narratives.
PAVLICH: Can I get one chip real quickly.
WILLIAMS: OK.
PAVLICH: I have a friend who doesn't want to be on social media during the day, so he locks his phone in one of those lockable food boxes from people who are dieting. And he puts it in the closet. So, he need help getting rid of your phone, that will help you.
GUTFELD: The problem is the cloud is still outside while your phone is locked. The cloud is still there, and you could come back and find out you're the one being attacked.
WILLIAMS: Yes, but at least you're not the one who's provoking you.
GUTFELD: Yes.
WILLIAMS: A man gets busted for faking this slip and fall Oh! My gosh. That more. Coming up on THE FIVE and Jesse Watters exclusive Fast Seven next.
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WATTERS: Welcome back. Time for the Fast Seven. First up, is it me or does Jennifer Lawrence look a little different.
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JENNIFER LAWRENCE, ACTOR: My favorite is probably Lisa Vanderpump. My least favorite, I don't want to have to say, I mean I don't want to have to say because who knows where you're going to run into these people.
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WATTERS: So, this creepy face swap of Jennifer Lawrence and actor Steve Buscemi. It's called deep fake and it's a video where a person's face and their voice are digitally manipulated. And this is a big threat they're saying, Greg.
GUTFELD: Well I looked at the media like when they discover new words. They're calling this deep fake. It's actually - this has been around for years. OK. Do you remember Jack Olo (ph) postcards. The postcard of a giant, the giant jack rabbit.
PAVLICH: Grandfather's motel.
GUTFELD: And also, I mean it's like - it's just photoshop, but it's really, really good photoshop. And we should be worried because what if a nefarious agent decides to place you in a sick illegal film, right and decides to ruin your life unless you pay him off. That's an industry waiting to happen, and I said this in the previous block, you cannot trust your eyes again.
WATTERS: So, like if something we see happens like a Covington esque story.
GUTFELD: Right.
WATTERS: And the Russians create some sort of really, really provocative incident and makes the whole country go crazy.
PAVLICH: I live with some fear that the Daily Briefing will be the first show that has a deep fake video that we take seriously and then view all these apologies. I think about this stuff a lot. What's interesting about the fakes and Photoshop, in 1995, I was in grad school and my thesis was about the doctrine of photographs and journalism. Remember that OJ Simpson. cover shot for Time magazine and it made him look nicer and then ...
GUTFELD: Yes.
PAVLICH: That was quaint by comparison.
GUTFELD: Yes.
PAVLICH: This is really dangerous and it's already happening especially with revenge ...
GUTFELD: Trump's pictures.
PAVLICH: Especially it's for women and then revenge porn, things like that this is happening.
PERINO: And domestically it's happening on stuff like that, but the national security community is very concerned about this, because they're worried about events like, events like terrorist attacks.
WATTERS: They're not worried about Steve Buscemi?
PERINO: No, they're not worried about Steve Buscemi or Lawrence or Jennifer Lawrence getting put on different face, just creepy enough, but they are worried about terrorist attacks or propaganda videos being so good that they actually look real and responding to something that didn't actually happen, which could create World War III.
WILLIAMS: In fact, you have now Republican Senator Ben Sasse saying, let's have legislation that makes it illegal to use these deep fakes as part of our political polarization malicious ideas. I don't know. PERINO: They're getting away with that though.
WATTERS: I like it because if I ever say anything really bad, I'll just claim I was deep fake.
PERINO: How do you know we're not deep fake now.
WATTERS: Who does this show. All right. Up next, the Oscars are this month and this guy could win for Best Actor. A New Jersey man caught on camera faking a workplace accident in order to file a phony insurance claim, forgetting about the cameras. He tosses a cup of ice on the ground and then pretends to fall on it. And he's been charged with insurance fraud and theft by deception. I think this was pretty slick. GUTFELD: OK. So, we said, we've bashed technology for the last 10 minutes. This is the positive part of technology in which we do have - we are a nation of narcs now, but we're also catching the creeps who are taking advantage of our better natures.
WILLIAMS: What do you think?
PAVLICH: I feel a little sorry for him.
WILLIAMS: Why?
PAVLICH: Not because he got busted, but because if you're that desperate, there is something seriously wrong with you. Like in here, if you're willing ...
WATTERS: He wasn't desperate maybe, he was just greedy.
PAVLICH: Well, isn't that the same thing.
WATTERS: Well, ask Elizabeth Warren. She says all billionaires are greedy. What do you think, Juan?
WILLIAMS: I just think that's pretty outrageous, bad behavior. And I think people shouldn't put up with it. And it's a rip off and literally a rip off of people have to pay insurance rates.
GUTFELD: Exactly.
PAVLICH: And for his fellow employees.
PERINO: And for the business for that to pay so much money for insurance, because people like this take advantage. Boo to him guy who got profits.
WATTERS: He's not wearing a mega hat. And finally going vegan could land you Beyonc, tickets for life. The pop star and her husband JayZ offering fans a chance to win tickets to their concerts for the next 30 years in exchange for adopting the diet for just one month. The couple hopes the contest will encourage people to reduce their environmental footprint by eating plant-based meal ...
PERINO: Corey Booker already does.
WATTERS: Corey Booker already has free tickets for life.
PAVLICH: Talking point.
WATTERS: There you go.
WILLIAMS: I think you have to convert, Katie. You can't just already be it, but I think this is great right. Because it's an incentive. They think that that's a better way to live and better for your health. And they're saying hey, we're put our money where our mouth is, and we want to encourage you. That's - what's wrong with that?
WATTERS: But how do you prove that the person actually ...
PAVLICH: Yes. Well, first of all, I don't believe that JayZ doesn't have meat.
WATTERS: Does JayZ even know that his wife offered free tickets.
PAVLICH: No.
WATTERS: This sounds like a real blushed up.
PAVLICH: But I find it hard to believe that he doesn't like - sneak a hamburger once in a while.
WATTERS: Yes. JayZ is not vegan.
PAVLICH: I don't see that.
WATTERS: I don't think so.
GUTFELD: I am with Juan. I can't believe I'm saying it, but I think this is actually a great way to get people. I mean I have misgivings about veganism, because I'm a meat eater. So, I do this - do this mental exercise, imagine being a cow in Idaho. All right, you're a cow in Idaho. One night you sneak into the farmhouse and you get on the Internet and you get your big hopes up there and you Google, cows in India and you look it up when you go, Holy crap. If I was born in India, I would be a god. I would be treated with reverence, but I am born in Idaho and I'm going to be like a thousand states.
PERINO: America.
GUTFELD: So, not by choice, but by pure luck, you were born here and you're going to be eaten. And that analogy could be how you inform all discussions on refugees.
WATTERS: You think the cow is going to Google India, if he gets a shot.
GUTFELD: Hey but imagine finding out Jesse that like you're living in a cannibalistic society, but over there Jesse Watters is beloved.
WATTERS: They want to eat me alive all the time. I think I am living in a cannibalistic side. Stay with us, Fan Mail Friday. Greg's excited. It's next.
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GUTFELD: I figured just do the David Lee Roth vocals only at Panama.
PAVLICH: That's good.
GUTFELD: Yes. Fan Mail Friday. All right. Great question from peacecat111. How do you decide what you're going to wear each day? PERINO: That's a good question.
GUTFELD: Yes, it is.
PERINO: Well, one of the things that you'll notice that Katie and I are both wearing red today. And the reason - the choice was easy for us today because it's a heart health awareness day. So, we kicked it off. I think you saw a lot of the ladies on Fox wearing red today and Juan jumped in red tie.
GUTFELD: I wore a black tie because my heart is black.
PERINO: I love turtleneck, so I kind of go by the weather.
GUTFELD: Oh! Interesting.
PERINO: What I am going to wear and also, I try to have like you can't wear the same color every day. So, I mean it's kind of complicated, but also there is a system.
GUTFELD: Yes.
PERINO: It's actually simple.
GUTFELD: OK. It's complicated, but it's simple, Jesse. What about you?
WATTERS: I'm not going to say something. I try to match my jacket to my tie to my shirt. That's it.
GUTFELD: That's great. Good for you.
WATTERS: It's not that complicated. GUTFELD: Juan, you're always quite a well-dressed.
WILLIAMS: No, that's because Fox gives me suits. But I think that the big question here is on a weekend because that's when I get to dress and the way I want it, but it turns out that often times like if you're meeting somebody or you've got to go and talk to somebody, you don't get the choice to how you dress. But if I was up to me, I'd wear a lot of sweatshirt, sweatpants, sweat suits.
GUTFELD: Maga hat.
WILLIAMS: I think not. We're going to discuss this. Greg and I are going to have peace on this issue one day.
PAVLICH: Juan will wear his Redskins hat during the weekends, when he is watching his team play, he does right now.
WILLIAMS: Katie. No, wait a minute. That was a low blow.
PAVLICH: Sorry.
WILLIAMS: Wait. Because they're not in a Super Bowl. I think you're a fan too.
PAVLICH: They're not in the Super Bowl. Of the Redskins.
WILLIAMS: Yes.
PAVLICH: I like the Patriots.
WILLIAMS: Oh! OK.
PAVLICH: And the Green Bay Packers. Anyway, back to my clothing choices.
GUTFELD: Yes.
PAVLICH: During the week for TV or DC professional things, I would say a solid colored dress that's hopefully length to the knee. But for the weekend, it's jeans with boots and like a T-shirt or like a leather jacket.
GUTFELD: Nice. Very good. You know what I do, in the morning I get up, I open the closet I grab whatever fits and then I walk home.
PAVLICH: Nice.
WILLIAMS: I'll tell you what. Mrs. Gutfeld.
GUTFELD: Another good question from simpson32. If Trump allowed you one tweet on his account, what would you say., I've got to go to Juan first. WILLIAMS: Hi Vlad. GUTFELD: Nice. Jesse?
WATTERS: Well, I'd have him tweet about my book that's gone out yet.
GUTFELD: Yes. That was - I was going to say, buy my book. He's never tweeted one of my books.
WATTERS: Because your books are not about him.
GUTFELD: That's right.
WATTERS: That's the problem.
GUTFELD: That's true. Katie, what would you have him tweet? PAVLICH: This account is on a one-month social media hiatus.
GUTFELD: Dang.
WILLIAMS: Would you give him 100 bucks.
PAVLICH: You guys don't need it.
PERINO: I was going in that direction because there is so many like likely voters who say if he just wouldn't tweet.
PAVLICH: Right.
PERINO: It would be helpful. I think I'd be like discontinued. PAVLICH: This account is closed.
GUTFELD: I would say, you know what, this would be my tweet if I could get on there. You know what, think I'm going to tweet more and just stop there. Right time. All right. One more thing is up next. Sorry.
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PAVLICH: Time now for One More Thing. I'm going to go first, because you know it's time for this. Dana, Sports Corner. OK, as everyone knows, I start off the year, New Year's Eve prediction. I predicted the Rams are going to take it all, of course and now they are in Super Bowl, so I have to do mascot theory. So, we've got the RAM and we've got Pat, Rampage the Ram and Pat the Patriot.
So, when it comes to foot speed, I think Rampage is going to toe to toe with New England and when they really get at it, see Pat doesn't have any headgear.
PERINO: Disadvantage.
PAVLICH: And Rampage has the horns. And so obviously this is going to keep his head safe, he's going to be able to win the game. I'm sorry to all the Brady fans, but this is just the way it is. Also, Andy Dalton of the Bengals was on my show today and he agreed with me. Well, not about the Ram thing. But that the Rams are going to win it all. OK. So, be back here on Monday to find out how I did. Juan.
WILLIAMS: As a happy fat American man, I have a tremendous interest ...
PAVLICH: Fat? No, what you are talking about.
WILLIAMS: Next weekend in football and food.
PAVLICH: You need to eat more.
WILLIAMS: So, I was thrilled this morning when I came across Google's list of the most popular Super Bowl snacks in every state. But before I tell you that let me just show you this because right here on the table, we have some of my favorite Super Bowl snacks, my kids call them the tos, Doritos Fritos Cheetos. I also like pistachios and nachos. But according to Google, the most popular Super Bowl party food maybe cake. Yes. Look at this map.
In Arizona, Florida, Louisiana, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Washington state, and Wyoming, the most popular snack for Super Bowl Sunday, cake. And how about this in New York and Texas, spinach dip. California, baked chicken. And folks in Iowa, you guys love your Irish stew. So, have a great Super Bowl party folks and stay near the Pepto Bismarck. PAVLICH: OK. Greg, you're next. GUTFELD: All right, you know what it is, Saturday 10 o'clock. The greatest show ever. No, just kidding. And we've got Kristina Partsinevelos, Jimmy Failla, Kat Timpf, Tyrus at 10 PM Fox News. Don't miss it, if you do, you're dead to me, says God. OK. Now, it's time for this. Greg's dog and kitten OK. You know the rules you're going to watch three videos, dogs and kittens fighting, you guys vote on it. Which one's the best. Let's go to video number one. Here you've got this cat. Look at this cat. Very aggressive, the dog seems to be handling it OK. Look at that. Form of that kitten. Pretty amazing. And then, he just wants to get scratched. There you go.
All right. Video number two, please. Here we go. Look at this one. Now this dog is a little more aggressive, but the kitten is not afraid, the kitten like what the heck is that, it's like the Pirates of the Caribbean. He's just looking down that's now. Feisty little. Here we go. And that leg in the background is a bit weird.
OK, let's go to the next one. Finally, I think that's - what's an Alaskan.
PAVLICH: Malamute.
GUTFELD: Malamute and that's a cat. So, this one looks like - well, I don't know what's going to happen. Something bad is going to happen I imagine. I don't know, we'll have to write out. No.
PAVLICH: They're cuddling now.
GUTFELD: That was terrible. All right. Shall we vote?
PAVLICH: Malamute.
GUTFELD: You take third video?
PAVLICH: Yes.
GUTFELD: Juan?
WILLIAMS: I take Mike Tyson with the ear biting, I think that's the second video. That's the first video.
GUTFELD: The first video.
WATTERS: I'm going to go to the first video.
GUTFELD: First video.
PERINO: I'll go two.
GUTFELD: Break. I'm going to go with the first video.
WATTERS: Yes.
GUTFELD: Excellent.
PERINO: The markings on the second cap are pretty good. Jesse?
WATTERS: Are you ready for the weekend?
GUTFELD: Ready for the weekend.
PERINO: Yes, I'm ready for the weekend.
WATTERS: This baby is ready for the weekend, check this out WATTERS: It's Friday, baby. Look at him feeling it. He's listening to David Lee Roth.
GUTFELD: I think he is.
WATTERS: All right. Also Saturday night, 8 PM Watters World. We have an exclusive sit down with the Trump insider who wrote the tell all about the White House experience and party bros, they're back. They analyze the best Super Bowl commercials. And we've got the bar. So, guys we've got Diamond and Silk. Herman Cain too.
GUTFELD: Wow.
PERINO: Wow.
WATTERS: And Huckabee's (ph).
PERINO: Two hour special. All right.
GUTFELD: How do you get all that packed into one show. It's scary.
PERINO: Katie. PAVLICH: All right. More dogs. The United States Postal Service has unveiled new stamps to be released later this year in honor of military working dogs. There are four different stamp designs that will feature a German shepherd, Labrador Retriever, Belgian Malinois. Is that how you say that. And a Dutch Shepherd. So, I think this is great because these dogs are trained to not only keep military members safe, but to keep people safe in airports and things like that too.
PERINO: Absolutely.
PAVLICH: Thank you, Postal Services.
PERINO: They work their tails off.
WATTERS: You're fine and sweet.
PERINO: It's so fun having you on the show. Hope you survive till next week.
GUTFELD: Very funny.
PERINO: That's it for us. See you back here on Monday. See if I win the production thing.
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