CROWDER: Congratulations.

SULLIVAN: Has been built by union labor. So, stop demonizing them, they're not the ones who should be stigmatized --

CROWDER: They were built by Americans.

SULLIVAN: -- and demonized. OK. The people who are causing this labor dispute is the leadership. And of course, at the end of it, it's the government.

CROWDER: It's the people of Michigan!

HANNITY: All right. Let me go to this specific issue --

CROWDER: It's the people of Michigan!

HANNITY: But let me go to this specific issue. Because you are one of the few union people that actually criticize leadership -- wait a minute. I agree with you. But here's the question. They are force -- you can't work at a company unless you join the union that you don't want to join, pay dues you don't want to pay and they take the leadership -- takes money and donates to political parties you don't want to donate to. What's wrong with the right-to-work? Why would you be against freedom of choice?

SULLIVAN: I think that's a little too extreme, the right-to-work, as far as altering. You know what I would be for? I think the way the unions are set up right now is almost like a dictatorship. It's a single-party rule. And I think right now, the GOP is missing out on a golden opportunity. I wish somebody from the Republican Party would reach out to unions and have a competing party to advocate representation -- I mean, just think about it.

HANNITY: You're one of the few union guys I've heard take on leadership. Because what they do to rank-and-file money, what they do with rank-and-file money is unconscionable.

SULLIVAN: I concur.

HANNITY: Wow. Steve, we'll give you the last word?

CROWDER: OK. Listen. Unions have become parasites in this country who eat their hosts alive. You look at GM, they looked for a new host-- the taxpayer. Right now in Michigan, these parasites are looking for a new host and that is forcing Michigan citizens who do not want them there to be pressed into unions that they don't want to join.

SULLIVAN: Stop blaming the rank-and-file union member. They are not the ones that are causing this. It's the leadership.

CROWDER: Yes, they are.

HANNITY: But some of them did attack Steven.

SULLIVAN: After Steven had his hands on his back and the guy got up not knowing who hit him --

CROWDER: They pulled down a tent with women and children! It's not me! It's hundreds of people who were in a tent! Come on, man! Let's be honest!

SULLIVAN: I know, there were flame throwers and cancer patients everywhere. Get a little more dramatic.

CROWDER: Yes, that's great.

HANNITY: We've got a break. Thank you both for being with us.

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