This is a rush transcript from "The Five," December 23, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST: You wouldn't believe it
Anyway, hello, everyone, I'm Juan Williams along with Lisa Boothe, Eric Bolling, Gillian Turner and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5:00 in New York City, and this is "The Five."
Europe's most wanted terrorist has been wiped off the face of the earth. The Berlin truck attacker was killed in dramatic shootout with Italian police overnight, a live report from Germany straight ahead.
But first, to a new tweet from President-elect Donald Trump, it's got everyone talking about it, this one raising a lot of questions about his nuclear ambitions for America. On Twitter he wrote, "The United States was greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes."
An expansion would break with a decade's long policy to reduce atomic stockpiling. Here was incoming Press Secretary Sean Spicer on the subject this morning.
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SEAN SPICER, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Russia, China and others are talking about expanding their nuclear capability. In his point which I think a lot of people are leaving off at the end of that tweet is unless they come to their senses. And I think countries need to know that under Donald Trump presidency, business as usual is over. He is going to act. He is going protect America. And if they increase their neutral capability, America will act.
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WILLIAMS: Mr. Trump is reportedly open to an arms race, according to an off camera interview did he this very morning with another cable channel. So, how is Russia responding? President Vladimir Putin shrugged it off today.
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VLADIMIR PUTIN PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION (through translator): Regarding the newly elected President Trump, there was nothing new. He was saying during his campaign about the importance of strengthening the nuclear aspect of the United States, about the strengthening of military forces. There is nothing unusual.
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WILLIAMS: So, Greg, we see Vladimir Putin saying, no big deal.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Well, you know what, can I address the whole idea of tweeting? Donald Trump is an addict. But he is not addicted to drugs or alcohol, he is addicted to tweeting, I know, because I'm an addict too. I understand what he is going through.
People say it's a great and awesome communication device, oh everything. But they say it's an awesome communication device but I don't think that's why he does it. I don't think it's for us, I think for him. To him it's like a video game, predicated on attention, so he will send out a tweet to see what he gets back in return. It really is like playing a video game and he is always trying to beat his previous score. Like maybe he'll get 27,000 retweets when he says this about Hillary but maybe will get 50,000 retweets if he says this about Russia.
So it's to him, I think he is trying to get better. And we have to wonder, you know, will we suffer from Donald Trump tweeting exhaustion in a couple years if he keeps doing this because we react every single time, because it's news.
WILLIAMS: Just a quick followup with that. You realize he is going to be president of the United States.
GUTFELD: Right. And we also -- we don't know if this is for real or his opening bid, you know? I mean, it could become the boy who cried bluff.
WILLIAMS: Well, so that's why I want to ask Eric because, Eric, we both know a lot of the players here but -- so Sean Spicer goes on air and says, "Business as usual is over. If other countries act to increase their nuclear supplies, the United States is going to respond". But then Jason Miller, who is the communications director says, "Wait, no, no. All Donald Trump is trying to say is, you know, we don't want the threat of nuclear proliferation to get out of control and so he is laying a marker down and saying, don't do that.
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Are you confused?
WILLIAMS: Yes.
BOLLING: Success, there it is. Donald Trump achieved what he wants. He wants to keep everyone off guard, on their heels.
WILLIAMS: Even his own staff?
BOLLING: Not just one -- no, his own staff? They know what their things.
WILLIAMS: Spicer has a different message than Miller.
BOLLING: Do you think Sean Spicer and Jason Miller didn't know the other one was going to say that, what they're going say.
WILLIAMS: I don't know. I don't know.
BOLLING: Here is the deal. Donald Trump made this comment, very provocative comment. The world took it, ran with it. The left goes, "Oh my God, the end of the world is coming. World War Three, nuclear proliferation, we're all dead". And then, they start playing with -- us. Hey, this is what he means.
This is what he means. Juan, you are confused. I think world leaders are confused. And for once, I'm thrilled that the world doesn't know what we're about instead of Barack Obama who was anti-nuclear, anti-war, anti- everything and anti-confrontational to the point where we were being walked over by other countries. I love this idea.
LISA BOOTHE, CO-HOST: I think, isn't this -- I believe this is posturing from President-elect Trump, because I think what you seeing if you seeing, you know, Russia act more aggressively, Iran acts more aggressively, China acts more aggressive. Was it Russia, Putin was just recently talking about strengthening their nuclear arms. So I think this is him flexing America's muscle and, you know, sort of laying that marker down.
We're going to see a marked departure under President-elect Trump than the foreign policy we saw from President Obama. We already saw that just recently with him taking the call from the president of Taiwan as well. And like, it wasn't that long ago when Hillary Clinton was the one that was trying to reset relations with Russia, because I know Donald Trump has also been hit recently for the exchange with Vladimir Putin recently. It was not long ago they were trying to set -- reset relations.
Also, you look at the fact the media essentially gave a free pass to President Obama with his Iran deal, which failed to really sink teeth in trying to stop Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Meanwhile, we gave them everything. We've giving them $100 billion in sanction relief while, you know, simultaneously removing trade restrictions as well.
WILLIAMS: Let me just pick up on something Eric was talking about with Gillian. Because, Gillian, is this how -- the left, as Eric was saying, is sort of bullocks by all -- I mean, is this how an arms race starts? And also, Eric says it's a good thing our enemies are confused. I'm wondering is it really a good thing to have world leaders confused about U.S. policy with regard to nuclear weapons?
GILLIAN TURNER, CO-HOST: It's not. I actually think it's quite dangerous. I think that there's something to be said for not broadcasting certain types of U.S. foreign policy plans, say, battle plans and the like. But I think that one of the major complaints that our allies around the world had throughout the course of this administration, I don't think you're going to come across anyone who is going to tell you that foreign policy was a strength of the current administration. Part of that reason is that even our closest allies are confused by us. Meaning, we renege on a lot of commitments we make around the world. We renege on a lot of engagement that has traditionally been going on.
WILLIAMS: Under Obama?
TURNER: I fear that President Trump is going to pull us back from those types of things further. I do agree with Lisa that I don't think this is a lot more than president-elect Trump flexing his muscle at the outset, news flash to everyone to everyone if you didn't know already, most traditional U.S. foreign policies that we've got are going to be reversed very quickly.
And so this is him kind of giving the flare signal that he is starting. He is going to come out of the gate running on this. He wants to try and backtrack on a lot of these things as soon as he can or escalate.
WILLIAMS: So Putin says, you know what, I'm responding to the fact that the U.S. missile defense is now more secure than ever and I want stronger nukes. Then Trump responds to Putin, is that what's going on here?
TURNER: Well, it has been a little bit of this escalation which is --
WILLIAMS: Well, that's worrisome.
TURNER: -- that's part of their personal dynamic. I don't know that once President Trump is dealing with President Putin as a counterpart, as a foreign head of state, this is going to go down in the same way. Remember, he's got a lot more flexibility and freedom right now because he is not sitting in the oval office.
WILLIAMS: What's your concern?
BOLLING: I don't like -- we had 3,000 people killed at the World Trade Center. We had a plane fly into the Pentagon, another plane that was attempted to -- probably heading for the White House go down and we never used a nuclear weapon. We could have. There have been plenty of opportunities. Peace through strength, Ronald Reagan coined the term, and why not tell the world we are going to be the strongest in the planet.
WILLIAMS: Greg?
GUTFELD: I think there's a nostalgia. We're experiencing a nostalgia for a simpler time before jihad when the big boys had the big toys. And I think that there's one avenue here. We're living in a different time where historically an adversary like Russia we would look askew at now might unite together under the apocalyptic threat of Islam.
You know, Putin has a lot of flaws. USSR before it became Russia had a lot of flaws. Millions died under Stalin. Putin is not going to blow up the world. Putin does not adhere to an apocalyptic version of 72 virgins. He just wants to live and make Russia as powerful as possible and there's a flaw in that. When you compare evil and evil, sometimes your enemy becomes your friend when dealing with something as crazy as Islamism.
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BOOTHE: Real quick. What's worse though, President-elect Trump sending out a tweet sort of laying down the marker and I think trying to, you know, sort of flex his muscle a little bit or a deal like the Iran deal which for a lot of accounts is in a decimal failure. It really sets the groundwork and the failed policy more substantially than a tweet does. So I think that's the point I was trying to make earlier is the Iran deal by comparison is much worse, but people barely blinked an eye.
WILLIAMS: Well, let me just quickly say, what about the cost? It would be billions of dollars at a time when President-elect Trump says he wants to cut spending, right, and cut taxes. Now, you're going to say, "Oh, here some billions."
BOLLING: The liberals worried --
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-- all of a sudden there's a cost.
WILLIAMS: No, you can pick on me but isn't that an inconsistency?
BOLLING: No. I think there's nothing inconsistent about Donald Trump. He said we're going to build the strongest military. In fact, he wanted to pull all the sequester clamps that we had on military spending. He wants to restrengthen all of our military.
TURNER: But it's not the first time he said this on nukes either. Remember, a year ago he was talking about when he was interviewed -- I forget who he was talking to but they said, "Would you remove the threat of using a nuclear weapon against our western European allies? Would you take that option off the table? And he said, "No".
People freaked out at the time. This is not the first time he said something like incendiary about our nuclear capability. So it's kind of part of a pattern.
WILLIAMS: Yesterday, he said, "You know what, we want to cut spending, Boeing, Lockheed." Now, all of a sudden the spending, that's why I raise the question --
BOLLING: It's not wasteful spending. He doesn't see spending money on our military as wasteful spending if spend the right way.
WILLIAMS: And one last note, Trump had -- I'm sorry, Putin had a long press conference today in which he said the Democrats need to learn how to lose with dignity.
BOLLING: Yes.
WILLIAMS: Coming up -- I'll let you laugh with that. Coming up, a massive global manhunt for the Berlin truck attacker is over. Europe's most wanted terrorist dead. How authorities caught up with him and took him down next in a live report from Berlin.
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BOLLING: The worldwide manhunt for the Berlin truck terrorist is over, 24- year-old Anis Amri was killed in a shootout overnight in Milan, in a video surface of the jihadi pledging allegiance to ISIS. Details now from Fox's Greg Palkot live in Berlin. Give us the latest, Greg.
GREG PALKOT, FOREIGN AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Eric, we are learning more but there are more questions following the killing a 24-year-old Tunisian man Anis Amri, the Berlin truck attacker. Official are trying to figure out how Amri made that 600 mile trip from Berlin to Milan via France. Borders were supposed to be tightened up but there also open, as soon as he got there, while he was the most man in Europe, gunned down by a routine police foot patrol in Milan. That video release is underscoring is a close I.P. connection to this hacker, the release time just after he was killed. And finally, the big question, whether he has support of an ISIS network and how he was able to operate in Germany for 18 long months before the attack.
Critics say, he took advantage of a German immigration policy that had swamped officials to deadly affect.
BOLLING: Thank you, Greg, very much.
President-elect Donald Trump tweeting about the Berlin attacker a short time ago saying, "The terrorist who killed so many people in Germany said just before crime, "By God's will, we will slaughter you pigs, I swear we will slaughter you. This is a purely religious threat, which turned into reality. Such hatred, when will the U.S. and all countries fight back?"
Now, Gillian, let's talk a little bit about what this terrorist did, Amri. He was a Tunisian who killed 12 people in Berlin, then traveled to France and then over to Italy. Part of the problem is that those wide open borders.
TURNER: Absolutely, the (inaudible) countries are wide open. Once you penetrate one of the countries, you kind of have free reign. You can go wherever you would like. And it's very hard for the E.U. to monitor you.
But what's amazing to me about this, this guy, is the fact that he was -- he was not supposed to be in the country anyway. He was somebody who had been denied safe haven inside Germany. But they were actually unable to deport him because of the sort of administrative holdup which was the fact that he didn't have a passport.
So the idea being, it's great that you have decided you want to extradite this perp from the country, but you have to have a willing recipient country. As long as he didn't have this passport, they couldn't get rid of him. So he was stuck inside the country, which is when he committed this heinous, heinous crime. Shocking.
BOLLING: And, Greg, in another country, three charged foiled plot to attack Melbourne, Australia on Christmas.
GUTFELD: Right. First off, I feel really bad for this guy. Right now, he is finding out that the 72 virgins are sheep. It's a big problem for him.
Yes, OK, I'm glad you brought up the Australian plot because four of the five plotters were born there. So extreme vetting wouldn't have stopped them. So now, you have the two parts of the table of terror. You know, one you've got the ISIS trained attack, which is Berlin. Then you have longer term cells that patiently wait. The third is the home growner, which is the -- four of the five. And then, you have the cultural shift towards kind of a darker, primitive way of thinking over the long term.
So, you have to look at terror that way, that you will have home grown, you will have people who cross borders. It's just not enough to say extreme vetting. You have to look at where this toxic doctrine infiltrates. It hits people who were born there, too.
BOLLING: Your thoughts, Mr. Juan?
WILLIAMS: You know, I was struck by just reading about him that he had been in jail in Italy four years after setting fires. I mean, clearly, he is only -- what --
BOLLING: 24.
WILLIAMS: 24, so he has been in jail in trouble from the time he was a teen, disconnected from his family. But the thing that really strikes home is, two, picking up on Gillian's point, one, crossing the border so easily. Secondly, if he is poor and jobless, how he is getting money to move around? So then, I'm thinking back, he must have some connection, right? I mean, that's like a red flag, right?
BOLLING: I would say --
GUTFELD: A lot of red flags.
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BOLLING: Go ahead, Lisa, your thoughts.
BOOTHE: Well, I think everyone is king of laying out sort of what this does is pinpoint the complexities that we face as a world really in fighting terrorism. The fact that this guy had, you know, multiple names, you know, coming from at least three different nationalities and the various documents that he had, the fact that he was on the radar of the United States, of Germany with suspected ties to ISIS.
And it also does really puts a spotlight on immigration policy. You look at a country like Germany that let him more than 1 million migrants. And you just go back the past few months. And there's, you know, suicide bomb out of the, you know, wine restaurant, a Syrian refugee hacking a pregnant woman in July, in Afghani refugee hacking a passenger on train in July. You have -- having into the New Year's Eve, you have the mass rapes that happened in Cologne, Germany. And so, it really puts a spotlight. And I think what is interesting is Angela Merkel recently promised to re-examine those policies.
BOLLING: Oh now, she wants to --
BOOTHE: And I think that she also going to reengage Donald Trump as well with this issue.
BOLLING: 1,000 refugees -- opened up shop in Germany. Does Angela Merkel survive this?
GUTFELD: I don't know. It's tough because she was trying to placate kind of a liberal guilt ridden feeling that her country has as him was talking about post Nazi-Germany to say we aren't like this anymore. So she bent over backwards. And now, she's probably going to pay for it.
But, again, the urgent threat is the marriage of apocalyptic terror with apocalyptic technology. It's not the fact that they want you dead, is that they have a better means of making you dead.
BOLLING: So it's not jobs and climate change?
TURNER: But the other -- even if Greg sort of hit this a little bit a minute ago. It's not just about the refugees, right? Germany has a real problem with this issue anyway. There's literally hundreds of German citizens who have traveled to Syria over the past two years to join ranks with ISIS. They have trained and dozens of them are already backed in the country. Even if you take the refugees, the 750,000 of them out of the equation, Germany is still vulnerable. That's something else Merkel going to have to contend with.
BOLLING: Any of those trainees are going to make their way to ours. We are taking a lot of refugees.
Ahead, next on "The Five", it's no secret President-elect Trump has had a contentious relationship with the media. Will he do away with press briefings when he takes office? His newly tap press secretary answers that question next. And later, Facebook Friday the Christmas edition, post your questions at facebook.com/fivefmt, make them good. Back in a minute.
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BOOTHE: It was a repeated pledge made on the campaign trail by candidate Trump.
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PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: When we win on November 8th, we are going to Washington and we will drain the swamp, so true.
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BOOTHE: So true. On Wednesday, Trump adviser Newt Gingrich said President-elect Trump has moved on from that slogan.
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NEWT GINGRICH, TRUMP ADVISER: I'm told he now disclaims that. He now says it was cute but he doesn't want to use it anymore. Maybe he feels that as president, you know, as the next president of the United States that he should be marginally more dignified than talking about alligators in swamps.
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BOOTHE: Well, Mr. Trump was not happy about that. He chided Newt that someone incorrectly stated that the phrase drain the swamp was no longer being used by me. Actually, we will be using -- we will be always using DTS. That led to this public apology from Gingrich.
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GINGRICH: I want to report that I made a big boo-boo. I talked this morning with President-elect Donald Trump. And he reminded me he likes draining the swamp. I mischaracterized it the other day. He intends to drain the swamp. He thinks taking on Boeing and the price is an example of draining the swamp. He thinks taking on Boeing, and the price is an example of draining the swamp. And so I want all of you to know, I goofed. Draining the swamp is in. The alligator should be worried. When I make a mistake, I will be straightforward and tell you. I blew that one.
BOOTHE: Let's talk about that boo-boo. Eric, do you think that -- are you happy with the steps that Donald Trump has taken to drain the swamp so far?
BOLLING: I don't know but i love the fact he is going to stay with draining the swamp. It was a huge cry at his events. He drain the swamp.
BOOTHE: Or DTS.
BOLLING: EJT will DTS, and I think he's --
BOOTHE: Oh, I like those accruements. Great, what do you make of those?
GUTFELD: Newt got neutered. It's scary how lockstep everybody has to be. Like if you step out of line, it's not good. You know, it's like you can't even disagree. And also, I don't find it attractive hearing an older man say boo-boo, sounds a bit weird. It's like a medical issue. I left a big boo-boo. I don't know. It bothered me. I give Newt credit for being Newt.
TURNER: But you could forgive him for thinking he wasn't going to say drain the swamp anymore because Donald Trump himself said in November at a rally I think in North Carolina that he didn't even like it. He only started using it once he said inadvertently and then it took off. So I don't really understand why the apology was necessary.
BOOTHE: Juan, what do you think?
WILLIAMS: Here's the bigger problem, Corey Lewandowski said about the same time, it's going to be a low priority, this drain the swamp. Now, let's stop and think about what's going on here. Donald Trump has named billionaires to his cabinet. A lot of Goldman Sachs people, people who have been lobbyists, right, all the generals that he was putting down, so how has he drained the swamp?
GUTFELD: The swamp is Wall Street, I keep telling you, Juan.
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WILLIAMS: I'm glad you are here. I really -- this goes back to the --
BOLLING: The other slogan I liked it even better.
BOOTHE: We're going to get -- OK. The president --
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BOOTHE: OK. The president-elect also railed against the so-called dishonest media a lot on the campaign trail. And yesterday, incoming White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer gave his first interview to Fox News after being tapped for the job. HE address he addressed how the administration was likely going to deal with the press.
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SPICER: The press has a right to go out and write stories and communicate things. But I think similarly in what Donald Trump has proven both as a candidate and now as president-elect is that when people are wrong, he is going to hold them accountable. He is going to correct the record.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You had hinted with Megyn Kelly on this program last week, maybe daily press briefings aren't needed. Are you going to do away with those?
SPICER: I think it's not a question of getting rid of certain things. Maybe we add certain things.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So were there be daily press people.
SPICER: I believe that we'll have daily briefings. Maybe we add an element to them. Maybe not everything is on camera. Maybe we bring more people into the process. There's an amazing group of folks.
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BOOTHE: Greg, what do you think about this potential changing of the daily interaction with the media?
GUTFELD: I've never seen a guy work so hard before his official job has started. Sean has hit the ground running. We're missing the big story here. Did you hear why Bob Corker didn't get the Secretary of State job, because he was short. Did you see this? Donald Trump was concerned that at 5'7", he couldn't be secretary of state, even though Churchill was 5'7", Gandhi was 5'4", James Madison was 5'4", Putin was -- yes, but you know who wasn't? It was all Bin Laden, Bin Laden, was 6'4". I have a theory --
BOOTHE: You are really good at answering questions you want --
GUTFELD: If Bin Laden had been shorted, Rob O'Neill probably wouldn't have been shot in the head and he would be alive.
BOOTHE: Eric, what do you think about this?
BOLLING: I think -- listen, Juan asked the question what about Jason Miller, what about Hope Hicks, what about Dan Scavino, and what about Sean Spicer?
Look, this is not a derogatory comment. This is a new world in media. Donald Trump is a media empire himself. You need a team of people getting out there and talking about what his initiatives are going to be, and he tweets.
So, I think they're all -- we are and they are all figuring out what's going to go forward. And Greg is right. Sean is working harder than he probably thought he was going to have to work from day one. But he is very capable.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: No vacation.
LISA BOOTHE, CO-HOST: Gillian?
GILLIAN TURNER, CO-HOST: Yeah. So, Sean also said that the president-elect, when he is president, is going to make sure that he corrects the record.
So, I would post it, if I was advising President Trump. You can either spend four years setting the record straight and correcting journalists when you think that they have said something mistaken about you, or you can be the president.
That's actually supposed to be Sean Spicer's job. So, I think that that's a little misguided, the idea that the president is going to be personally involved in punching back in journalists.
WILLIAMS: He has benefited by vilifying the press. And I think that he wants to continue to do that. So, he goes around the press with the tweeting and the rallies.
And now, I think as you get to Washington, you know, there's more of a structure where you are held accountable on a daily basis. I like Sean Spicer's ideas, by the way, maybe more off camera and where I used to be a White House correspondent.
We'll just go into press secretary's office. Things would be settled big things have talked about before you get out on camera and things, certain things are said that -- or not said.
BOLLING: That's the swamp.
WILLIAMS: No, that's not the swamp.
BOLLING: Sure it is.
WILLIAMS: Because it leads to stories Eric, in a more of a competent --
BOLLING: What you're talking about what you're going to be or what you're going to ask a press secretary. And they tell you, OK.
WILLIAMS: By the way, this goes way back. People ask questions and these questions get set up all administrations, but because the administration wants to protect itself in front of the camera and specially when the president is there in a press conference. And by the way, when is the last time Donald Trump held a press conference?
TURNER: A long time ago now.
BOOTHE: All right.
WILLIAMS: I wonder if maybe we should check with Hillary Clinton.
GUTFELD: -- big press conference coming up.
TURNER: It looks this is getting out of hand.
BOOTHE: All right.
Up next, a Clinton supporter harasses Ivanka Trump and her family on a flight that was about to take off from New York, City.
The heckler was ejected from the plane. We'll tell you about what happened when "The Five" returns.
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TURNER: Yesterday, Ivanka Trump and her family boarded a flight out of New York to head to Hawaii for Christmas vacation.
There was turbulence even before takeoff when an anti-Trump lawyer heckled the president-elect's daughter reportedly claiming her father is ruining the country and geared at her three small children.
He and his husband were ejected from the jet. The husband practically confirmed earlier on Twitter that there was a plan to harass Ivanka and family before boarding.
So, the first thing I thought when I was reading this earlier, I don't know about you guys, is where on earth was her security detail? I thought that the entire Trump family, to include young and older children, since the primaries had had secret service detail. So, where are these guys?
WILLIAMS: But secret service doesn't protect you just because somebody said something.
TURNER: No. But if the reports that he was like heckling and he kind of got aggressive --
WILLIAMS: This is where -- this is where you people go off the rails. First of all --
GUTFELD: I don't think.
TURNER: They're very collective.
WILLIAMS: This is not about the children. Everybody's oh, the children. And her husband was there and all the guys said was that her father's ruining the country. In fact, his argument after JetBlue threw him out was, "Hey, why are you throwing me out for simply expressing my opinion?"
GUTFELD: Because he's a putz.
WILLIAMS: Yeah I agree with that --
GURFELD: She's an a-hole.
WILLIAMS: Good with that.
GUTFELD: OK. Now, can I tell you what I learned and what I love about this story is that social networks are good because they can -- people confess their crimes as they occur.
So, while this guy is going, his husband is saying, oh, there he goes. He's going to go with it. So, you've got nailed and he tried to delete it, but it was too late.
And also, he -- this is how this twit Twitter has trained people to be jerks. He thought that he could use the same behavior that he uses on Twitter in real life. It doesn't work that way. You can't be -- what you can be online you can't be in person. So, you've paid the price.
And they were also mad at the Trumps because they were a flying coach. I said, what kind of jerks are you? You're mad at him because they're rich. And then you're mad at him for being in coat. Go screw yourself.
BOLLING: I think this is actually -- I disagree with you, being only one. These are disgusting. These people are horrible people for doing what they did. And it is about the children. It's about Ivanka's children who were there. And also, the child that one of them was holding while this guy was being a jerk.
WILLIAMS: Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, listen. I mean, here --
BOOTHE: The husband.
BOLLING: The husband was holding their kids, while the other idiot was --
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WILLIAMS: Well, the kids have nothing to do with it. You are just trying to --
BOLLING: No, no, no. Juan, next time you are on a flight going back to D.C., can you imagine someone heckling you and harassing you?
GUTFELD: Just he (inaudible) you.
TURNER: It happens to Lisa on M-track all the time.
WILLIAMS: And you all --
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BOLLING: You've said the record but, if you are on a flight with three kids, three young kids, all you want to do is get the kids in the seat and get in the air and get in the other side.
BOOTHE: Why -- why Juan are you standing up for this guy? This guy is such a jerk. He tweeted out --
WILLIAMS: I agree with what Greg said. What I just don't agree with the idea that, oh, he is so fragile. He can't say something --
BOOTHE: Nobody said she's fragile. She's a strong business woman. It's the point being. It's the fact that this guy, according to his husband, identified that he was going to go after Ivanka Trump and attack her.
He tweeted out and connected Donald Trump, said that he was the banality of evil which has not the connotations through out. I mean, this guy is insane that he had attacked her on the plane with her kids nearby.
GUTFELD: Did he say he was going to harass her?
TURNER: Yeah. He said, my husband is off to go harass her.
BOOTHE: Like the guy has run. He saw her and --
TURNER: -- kicking this guy off the plane.
WILLIAMS: Well -- All right. So, what are you going to do? Did he use profanity? I didn't hear any of what. Did he say something that the children --
BOOTHE: So, but are there --
BOLLING: What did Ivanka do? She did nothing. She did nothing and stood there and he stay at that and they composed themselves and they got -- And in fact, fortunately, they got this city that's --
WILLIAMS: Hats off to Ivanka who said I don't want to make a big deal out of this. But you guys want to make this like the end of the earth. Oh my God, somebody --
BOOTHE: We're just saying he is a jerk. How can you not --
GUTFELD: You know, perhaps, if it wasn't Ivanka and it was a Muslim cleric, it would be far different.
BOLLING: Or how is this, if it was a gay couple who was being harassed, we would be going ballistic. The left would be going, can you believe the intolerance of a Trump -- if it was a Trump supporter harassing a gay couple. Think about that for one second.
WILLIAMS: Yeah. I see that --
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BOLLING: You tell me that that wouldn't be --
WILLIAMS: Of course it would. Because guess what, the Trump people have a reputation for this kind of behavior.
GUTFELD: -- it's tailed the story that they were on JetBlue. That's the story. The Trumps were flying JetBlue.
TURNER: Preparing the lead.
GUTFELD: That's the lead.
TURNER: But, do we think there should be -- OK. Again, we're on an airplane, right. We're not walking down the street. If someone wants to walk up to Ivanka Trump and get in her face and yell at her, I feel like there's a higher threshold for that out in public. When you're on an airline, everybody --
BOOTHE: There's nowhere to go, yes. He's literally not --
TURNER: They kick people off planes all the time for doing much less, like being drunk or like, I don't know. You hear these stories about women getting kicked off because they're wearing short skirts. I think this guy have to go.
WILLIAMS: I think we have a unanimous glorious here on that one, that JetBlue was right to push him off.
BOOTHE: Yeah. I'm just glad Juan is not in-charge of who gets on the plane.
TURNER: There was no way you couldn't check that.
WILLIAMS: Yeah.
GUTFELD: Now, Juan actually. But, as Juan is pretty strict about he gets on planes.
WILLIAMS: Yes, that's right.
TURNER: Oh, that's OK. All right.
GUTFELD: Ask NPR. I couldn't resist.
WILLIAMS: Thank you.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
BOOTHE: All right. Don't go away because Facebook Friday, the Christmas edition is next. You're not going to want to miss it.
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GUTFELD: Clipper. Facebook Friday, Christmas edition refers a programming note, set your DVRs for this Monday. You'll catch -- or you'll want to catch our Christmas special.
We'll be opening presents and all that stuff 5:00 p.m. Eastern. OK now, to our questions. We'll go it this way Gillian. This way from Joe T., "What was your favorite toy as a child or best Christmas present as a kid that had the biggest influence?"
TURNER: Jem.
GUTFELD: What's that?
TURNER: 100 percent Jem.
GUTFELD: What is it?
TURNER: It's a doll. There was an even a movie last year called "Jem and the Holograms."
GUTFELD: It must be terrible, the movie was terrible.
TURNER: I didn't see it. I'm going to see it on Netflix but not -- if you want to experience Jem you can just log on to eBay and buy one from like the '80s when I was a kid for $500.
GUTFELD: Wow, 500? That's a day. I will get two.
TURNER: Run, don't walk.
BOLLING: If I'd be work like $1000 in three years.
TURNER: Is that? It's a good investment, really.
GUTFELD: Eric, do you have to do that?
BOLLING: I was in the Rubik's Cube until it became too easy from -- I'm kidding. Look, I'm a geek. I was in basketball. I was 24/7 basketball or my bike. That's all I cared about playing hoops in and riding in my bike.
GUTFELD: Juan, did you have toys growing up?
TURNER: Simple needs.
WILLIAMS: Not a lot.
GUTFELD: In the asylum they kept you in.
WILLIAMS: Yeah they get asylum. It's kind of a difficult question for me. Because my mom didn't believe in gifts and so it really -- I really didn't dig it. And but other relatives would do things like shirts and I just thought, I want toys.
GUTFELD: Yeah. How about you Lisa?
BOOTHE: My parents' love. I do love them but no.
TURNER: World peace.
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GUTFELD: You got some lots of friends.
BOOTHE: Definitely a Barbie mobile. It taught me everything I needed to know about driving.
GUTFELD: Yeah, you know, Dana got one and could actually drive it. Pretty neat -- you know, the weirdest book -- a weirdest present, my parents got me the People's Almanac. Do you remember that book which is like this thick? Then it was called People's Almanac. And my parents didn't look at it as if there was a whole definition of sexual terms in there.
BOLLING: Oh no.
GUTFELD: And so they gave it to me when I was seven and I learned everything.
BOOTHE: So, that's what happened.
GUTFELD: Yes, yes, what a mistake that was. Genevieve, we'll start this way. See as -- what Christmas movie is your favorite and least favorite?
BOOTHE: I like "Elf" because I like sugar and that's something I share with the main character. Least favorite, I don't know if there's a least favorite.
GUTFELD: Oh, come on. "Love Actually."
BOOTHE: I like that.
GUTFELD: The worst film ever made. But that's from me.
TURNER: What are those day, you have -- do you risk like that --
GUTFELD: Yeah. Well, that was actually made by Satanists. It's a totally a satanic film.
BOOTHE: Won't you say that way.
BOLLING: One of the guys -- I have never seen this movie because you say it's horrible. So I don't see it. When the guy is in it it's the guy from "Walking Dead" Rick from "Walking Dead."
GUTFELD: Really?
BOLLING: One of my favorite actors on the planet.
GUTFELD: Satanist walking dead. They come together.
BOOTHE: When he put it that way.
TURNER: And one of the actors passed away last year which was that --
GUTFELD: A way to bring it down. But wait, can we just go get through this in order? All right, and you can save you stories for later. Juan?
WILLIAMS: Where I have in a two that I just think are classics. I like to watch "Wonderful Life" right. That's a great one. And then "Miracle on 34th Street" with the whole idea of santa, you know, going against the establishment and saying, "Let's go, go to the ---
GUTFELD: That's the way you look at it.
WILLIAMS: I do, I like it a lot.
GUTFELD: Yeah, Santa is a revolutionary because he's in red.
WILLIAMS: Yes.
GUTFELD: Like your commie tie.
WILLIAMS: Yeah, there you go.
GUTFELD: All right.
BOLLING: I think it's -- they depress me.
GUTFELD: Yes.
BOLLING: Christmas movies make me sad. I don't why, I can't watch them except for "Bad Santa." I just -- I love it.
GUTFELD: That's a great film.
BOOTHE: That's a good one.
GUTFELD: Great film. What about you, that worst.
TURNER: I'm tied on best between "Home Alone."
GUTFELD: Good.
TURNER: And "Meet Me in Saint Louis," which is not really a Christmas movie but there's at amazing Christmas scene in there when Judy Garland sings Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas and it's like, I can't even -- I can't.
GUTFELD: You cry?
TURNER: I know that's one of the most annoying words of the year -- of expressions of the year, I can't. But I said it.
GUTFELD: Right.
TURNER: Those are my two favorites.
GUTFELD: Obviously, the worst is "Love Actually" which I talked about it at length on the show. My favorite is "Deliverance." The end, you become -- you appreciate like, you know, they are sitting around the table and John Voight starts crying and that's really what the holidays are about. It's surviving the holiday, surviving the holidays, being there, having some food with some strangers.
BOLLING: Great music there.
GUTFELD: All the music is amazing. I love it.
TURNER: Did you see SNL with the "Love Actually" spoof last week?
GUTFELD: No. I don't want to that.
TURNER: You have to Google that.
GUTFELD: That's passed my bedtime.
TURNER: Just Google. You don't .
GUTFELD: All right, this is from Facky.
TURNER: I know Facky.
GUTFELD: Do you?
TURNER: Yeah, he's great.
GUTFELD: All right, let's -- I will start with Juan. What is your favorite Christmas song?
WILLIAMS: Yeah actually, "The New York Times" had a piece about this recently. Do you know "Dan Fogelberg Song?" It's something like "Old Lang Syne," it's about meeting an old girlfriend in a grocery store --
GUTFELD: Right, yeah.
WILLIAMS: -- on Christmas Eve. And it turned out was true.
GUTFELD: Oh my god, Juan.
WILLIAMS: This guy died and he really had gone to it, I mean that he was a rock star. And they run into each other. And she is like, yeah, hey, well, you know.
GUTFELD: And then how did it end?
WILLIAMS: They were drinking a six-pack in her car.
GUTFELD: You can do that right, to get anybody. What about you .
WILLIAMS: But by the way, before I go, I look, you know Phil Specter is in jail right?
GUTFELD: Of course.
WILLIAMS: When Phil Specter's Christmas album is my favorite. This is the world of sound.
GUTFELD: I've got a liberal would like a murder's album. How about there Lisa?
BOOTHE: I like "Oh Holy Night." but I'm also going to say, "Baby It's Cold Outside" just to get people had their exploding about somehow now, is like a rape. Like a Britney song, Christmas song and they can't enjoy it anymore apparently.
GUTFELD: I just don't like the song in general. But it had nothing to do with that.
WILLIAMS: Why don't you like it?
GUTFELD: I don't know. It's a two, it's a man or woman singing?
WILLIAMS: Yes.
GUTFELD: I don't like that.
TURNER: I don't get how it's rapy (ph) song.
BOOTHE They're saying because he like .
GUTFELD: Is leading or she got inside? Everyone (ph) come inside? TURNER: She's trying to get her to come inside.
WILLIAMS: It's a seduction.
GUTFELD: I find it offensive.
TURNER: All right, so people are offended by it now.
BOLLING: You got to move the student. What's your favorite Christmas song?
TURNER: I think I'm going to go with "Have yourself a Merry Little Christmas", because I'm boring and I said that a minute ago.
BOLLING: I don't like them. I don't like any of them. Like Christmas is kind of cool. But I just don't like them.
WILLIAMS: What is wrong with you?
BOLLING: I don't know.
GUTFELD: I hate, you know, "White Christmas" is about cocaine. It's terrible. I'm going to (inaudible), I'm with my favorite Christmas -- my favorite Christmas song is the theme from "Deliverance." So there you go. All right.
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GUTFELD: No, it just made me figure it.
This is from Diane G. What was the worst Christmas gift you ever received, Gillian?
TURNER: I got the boot one Christmas. I got broken up with. That was my worst Christmas.
GUTFELD: You were dumped on Christmas?
TURNER: Yeah. I was in college. It was really unfortunate.
GUTFELD: What was his reason?
TURNER: I don't care to repeat it.
GUTFELD: Where is he now? Do you laugh at him?
TURNER: I don't know where he is.
GUTFELD: See? That's great.
TURNER: I don't know. He is not communicated.
GUTFELD: Probably in jail.
TURNER: I hope so.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
TURNER: He just there. If he's not in jail, he deserves it.
GUTFELD: He's probably an ISIS. Eric?
BOLLING: The worst Christmas gift I ever got. I don't know. Can you help me out here?.
WILLIAMS: I don't know. I was trying to think. I mean, I'm a positive person. I don't want to hear Greg's questions like that. He doesn't like -- you don't like Christmas music. Now they want and now your worst gift. Oh my god.
BOOTHE: I know these two are really just like -- I was so excited about Christmas.
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BOLLING: I think the greatest day and year for me is January 1, because it's holiday is done.
BOOTHE: Is done?
BOLLING: And we can just start over.
GUTFELD: Hey, don't you remember as a kid how you hated getting clothing?
WILLIAMS: Yeah, that's the thing I weren't.
TURNER: No way, I loved it. Not until you're like 10.
GUTFELD: I've got like shirts and I was sad when I got them that I would often cry.
BOOTHE: Or like knitted scarf, the worst.
WILLIAMS: Gloves.
GUTFELD: Really knitted. Because when my mom was knitting it, she wasn't, you know. The arm would be really long, because that was when that got late into the evening. And the arm just kept getting long.
BOLLING: It wasn't the arm.
BOOTHE: Oh, my goodness.
GUTFELD: One more thing is up next.
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WILLIAMS: It's time now for "1 More Thing." I'm going to kick it off by having a Christmas card of sorts with pictures for all the people behind the scenes here at FOX who keep us going on "The Five." So here are some of my friends behind the scenes. Now, there's Perkins, who is one of the messengers.
GUTFELD: He is great.
WILLIAMS: Terrific. And there's Hadija, who is one of the receptionists on 17th.
GUTFELD: Lovely.
WILLIAMS: My gosh, there's Rafeed (ph) who keeps the lobby looking spectacular.
GUTFELD: Awesome guy.
WILLIAMS: Oh my gosh and there's George who was on the bus trip with us, security keeps us safe here at Fox. And guess what, there the entire team from "The Five." And now you see the on air personalities, but so many as folks, the producers, wonderful folks and they really are a loving group. So Merry Christmas to one and all.
BOLLING: Unbelievable. We forgot. Can you spin the camera around? Come on, spin the camera. Grab one of those cameras. Scott take one of those cameras. There you go.
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BOLLING: There's everybody, all right.
GUTFELD: Aren't you glad you wore pants? First time you got to wear pants.
BOLLING: Yeah wants a good --
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WILLIAMS: Gregory, you're up.
GUTFELD: Shameless plot, short story, it's Dana Perino, Greg Gutfeld, Larry Getlen, January 28th, 2017, Warner Theater, Washington D.C. tickets available at Ticket Master. It's a lot of fun. We talked politics and everything after the inauguration is going to be a blast.
All right. Now to this new thing. Greg's sexist news. All right, this was on MSNBC earlier.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But first, going rouge. The holiday box office is feeling the force in the latest Star Wars movie, your preview of that and the other flicks out there next.
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GUTFELD: So let's get this straight because there's a woman starring in the latest Star Wars, instead of writing going rogue (ph), you write going rouge. If Fox had done this, could you imagine the outcry, MSNBC or should I pronounce it MSogyny --
WILLIAMS: Did they make a mistake? Or they do it intentionally?
GUTFELD: I don't know. Who cares? The camera.
WILLIAMS: All right, Eric Boeing.
BOLLING: So, tonight, I'm going to finish a week of Hannity off tonight, the great week with them with Newt Gingrich is going to be on and John Bolton, we're going to weighing in on that U.N. Security Council vote, kind of sticking a knife in Israel's back. So we'll do that. But also today, Tiger Woods played golf with Donald Trump at the Trump International Golf Course down in Florida. And go to Twitter and hit me up. I want to know what you think was said on the golf course.
I mean, you guys have great ideas. We'll check it out and place them on Monday.
WILLIAMS: Right away you got ask posting about the mustache controversy.
BOOTHE: We have followup on that.
BOLLING: Lisa.
BOOTHE: All right, so quarter back Matthew Stafford as the Detroit Lions is giving back to his local community and what he did was essentially play Santa to two families of Detroit police officers who were killed in the line of duty. Myron Jarrett leaves behind a wife and four children and Ken Steil leaves behind a wife and two kids. And I just thought it was good to highlight someone who is giving back to his community, especially at this time in Christmas and also just our hearts grow out to the families that won't have their loved ones with them this Christmas.
WILLIAMS: That's sweet. Jillian, you are up.
TURNER: I don't want to go after Lisa.
BOOTHE: So it's like she's selfless and Christmassy. And I'm doing a shameless plug. But it's a shameless plug for my mom. She has got a new book out. She's quite a well renounced author and illustrator of children's book.
WILLIAMS: Really?
TURNER: She published almost 200, there she is. She looks just like me. She's got her latest out now. I think we're going to get a screen shot of it. It is called "I Just Want to Say Goodnight." You can buy it in bookstores on in Amazon.
BOOTHE: Very cool.
TURNER: Any around the country. She has another one that just came out a few months ago called "I Hear a Pickle" which has had rave reviews, and is nominated for Caldecott Awards.
BOLLING: Really.
BOOTHE: Go Gillian's mom. That's awesome.
TURNER: Yeah, so if you have kids in your life that you need to get gifts for this Christmas, you should hit it up.
WILLIAMS: I have kids in my life. So I will make a stop at the bookstore.
TURNER: Thank you.
WILLIAMS: It's called "I Hear a Pickle"?
GUTFELD: That's great.
TURNER: Yeah. And then the most recent one -- don't say anything. The most recent one is called "I Just Want to Say Goodnight." It's very sweet, it's about a little African girl saying goodnight to all the animals where she lives.
BOOTHE: Or you might get some extra special Christmas presents, there's something now.
BOLLING: Lisa and Juan we will be together with us.
BOOTHE: Oh yeah, but do you get out.
WILLIAMS: Hey, you know what? Merry Christmas. That's it for us. Don't forget to tune in Monday. Therefore, our Christmas Special at 5:00 p.m. Eastern. To all of you, have a very merry Christmas, everyone, happy Hanukkah to all who celebrate. "Special Report," up next.
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