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This is a rush transcript from "The Five," April 21, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: This is a Fox News alert. We lost one of the most talented musicians in American history today.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to talk with this thing called life.


BOLLING: The world is in shock by the news of Prince Rogers Nelson's dead at the age of 57, the cause of death still a mystery. TMZ reported Prince was experiencing flu-like symptoms and had visited a Walgreen's numerous times in the days leading up to his death. Deputy is called to his studio found the star unresponsive in an elevator. First responders were unable to resuscitate him. Let's get the very latest now from Shep at the Fox News deck. Shep?

SHEPARD SMITH, "SHEPARD SMITH REPORTING" ANCHOR: Eric, the first call came in 9:43 a.m. local time in Carver County, Minnesota, just outside Minneapolis. Sheriff deputy reporting to, responding that is to a local report of an unresponsive adult male at Paisley Park Studios, the home of Prince, the music legend. Here is a live look at the home now. We'll take a look as people gather outside to pay tribute. It's been a rainy day there off and on. Prince lived there, recorded music there, hosted parties and concerts there. Today, they found him unresponsive in an elevator there. Reports of the emergency call caught fire on Twitter. People tweeting, don't let it be Prince. Don't let it be the legend who left such a remarkable imprint on music. Sadly, it was. Deputies say they tried to give him CPR, but were unable to revive him. And at 10:07 local time Minneapolis, they pronounced Prince dead. We cannot know yet what killed him. The local investigators are doing their thing and they'll figure it out. Prince has, had troubles of late. TMZ reported that his plane made an emergency landing last week so he could go to a hospital on the way back from a concert. At the time, the word was he had a very bad case of flu. Doctors released him, he returned home, then on Saturday night there was a bit of a party there, sort of a pick-up party. He's said to have played music there. People were who are at his house said it was like normal. Then this morning, that's exactly where investigators found him, at that house, outside Minneapolis, the scene of so much happiness and creativity in the past, now one of mourning. Prince was but 57-years-old. His musical influence is timeless, back to you.

BOLLING: Thank you, Shep. Prince rose to fame in the early '80s, disco had been slowly dying. Rock was trying to hold on to its popularity. Then along came Prince, a young man with a ton of vocal range. His songs sounded very pop, but his guitar, which most people who've only heard his music played on radio or MTV, will never know. That guitar was a big emotional and very soulful guitar. That broke out during his live performances, arguably one of the best of all time. Just listen to it during his iconic performance at the Super Bowl 2007.


PRINCE ROGER NELSON, MUSICIAN (singing): I never meant to cause you any sorrow. I never meant to cause you any pain. I only wanted to one time to see you laughing baby. I only wanted to see you, see you laughing in the purple rain. Purple rain, purple rain, purple rain, purple rain, that's all right. Come on now, purple rain, purple rain, oh yeah. Doesn't it feel good? I only want to see you, see you -- can I play this guitar?


BOLLING: All right. KG, let's start with you. A hundred -- more than a hundred million albums sold. Grammy awards, what a star we lost today.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: I literally just one of my favorite musicians of all time that so many memories my life, as it's all of us do. You know, associated with Prince, those times, you know, in college, everything with his music with certain songs and it's just -- it's really so sad because he wasn't somebody that need somebody to back him up. This guy had all the talent right there in his body, and his voice, and his incredible command of variety of, you know, multiple musical instruments. You really didn't know anybody quite like him.

BOLLING: Kennedy -- welcome.

Thank you.

BOLLING: Prince, kind of a Michael Jackson with pop, yet, then he could pull a Carlos Santana with that guitar.

LISA KENNEDY MONTGOMERY, GUEST CO-HOST: Absolutely. And people also compare the guitar and the style to Jimi Hendrix. And you're absolutely right about that when you're talking about him in your intro, the musicianship that he displayed, that's something that you almost have to be a virtuoso to appreciate. And it's one of the things that are lost on a lot of its million years, certainly like mine, but you do appreciate the scope of his career and the depth of his music in song-writing. And as you played that clip from the Super Bowl from 2007 -- delirious, that's the biggest venue you can play.


MONTGOMERY: And he made it so intimate and immediate, which is an almost impossible thing to do.

BOLLING: Dana, one of the interesting things about Prince was that he never got involved in the L.A. scene. A lot of musicians they get fame and they go straight to L.A. and it goes right to their head. He stayed in Minneapolis.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Yeah, he seemed so like he's so grounded, right? And I don't -- I was a fan, I don't know a lot about him. I was admiring all that you knew about him in terms of record sold. And this is what I do remember hearing about him, that he was a very generous mentor to other potentially, you know, people who wanted to play music or wanted to write music or wanted to be in the music business that he was always willing to lend a hand and help somebody get involved in the business. So I looked, of course, I was a fan, I loved all the music, the movie "Under the Cherry Moon" I mean, that was a great movie. So yeah, he'll be missed. But if you would have asked me how old is Prince -- you asked me that today. I don't think I could have even come close to the ballpark, because he was kind of ageless.


PERINO: He's always like mature from like a really young age.

BOLLING: And that was really the interesting thing about Prince. I remember growing up, you didn't know, you couldn't place him in anything. You couldn't place him in the music genre, you couldn't place him -- some people would say, "I'm not sure if he's black or white, he has both black parents." Some would say, "I'm not sure if he's gay or straight." He was married before, but he never -- you will never able to pinpoint Prince down.

EBONI WILLIAMS, GUEST CO-HOST: No. You're right Eric. He -- Prince represent from me, somebody who transcended everything. All of those boxes, all those categories, all those kind of generations. And the thing that spoke to me, Kennedy, you talked about, you know, his Super Bowl performance being so intimate. We watched the Super Bowl performances in current years and they're fantastic and I have no problems with what Beyonce and Bruno Mars and Coldplay and all these artists do. But there's so much going on that sometimes I miss the true musicianship. And that's really what I appreciate from Prince. And also this, I remember the Warner Brothers fight where Prince was fighting so hard for his individual, you know --


WILLIAMS: But his ownership rights over his music.

PERINO: Right.

WILLIAMS: And I think he just represented such liberation for artists, and I will always have so much respect for that.

BOLLING: Can I bring Kennedy back in here. He dropped his first album when he was 18-years-old.

MONTGOMERY: Yeah, he was a young record producer.

BOLLING: Almost been 40 years he's been playing.

MONTGOMERY: Yeah. Now he was the youngest record producer that had had ever produced a full album at Warner Brothers, and that was his record "For You." It came out when he was 19-years-old, he played all of the instruments on it, completely self-taught. And you know, there weren't a ton of hits on that, he didn't have his first hit until two years later with "I Wanna Be Your Lover." And that's the first song, you know, you think, Oh yeah, I remember that song. And then of course, 1999 came out "Little Red Corvette" and "Delirious." And that's when it really started to build, and then he exploded with "Purple Rain."



BOLLING: . he also collaborated with just about everyone. He played with everyone from the Rolling Stones to Lenny Kravitz across the board. He liked to play with people.

GUILFOYLE: And he was the love advice. I mean, everybody wanted to be able to perform, like yeah, with Prince. That was like really kind -- I think a high moment for so many musicians. And that's why you see such universal like grief and loss over this incredible American music icon, this legend. I mean, his music is just fantastic. He can just -- it never gets old.


WILLIAMS: Yeah, I thought Eric Clapton. No, sorry, I just.


WILLIAMS: . read this on Twitter.


WILLIAMS: And it -- did you see that?

BOLLING: That was amazing.

WILLIAMS: Eric Clapton was asked --

BOLLING: As my guitar, gentleman.

WILLIAMS: How does it feel to be? --



BOLLING: That was a phenomenal quote.



GUILFOYLE: What was it?

WILLIAMS: So Eric Clapton was asked, how does it feel to be the best guitarist in the world? And he said, I don't know, ask Prince.

GUILFOYLE: Yeah, very nice.


BOLLING: That was -- I don't know if you remembered that performances, Clapton and Prince --


BOLLING: And there was one that I can't remember --

MONTGOMERY: The George Harrison (inaudible).

BOLLING: Exactly.


BOLLING: What a phenomenal. You can check it out on YouTube. Dana, parents, he had a mother who was a vocalist and a father who was a pianist. He had the DNA.

PERINO: Right. So that's the talent genes, and then he made the most of them. The other thing about him is America can be really proud of him, right. And so music and pop culture, it's so important to us in our daily lives and it keeps us entertained. But it also is something, don't forget about music diplomacy. And Prince is somebody that one, the Americans could be proud of. But everyone in the world loved Prince. And so I think that as his music, of course, is going to live on, that's something that we should kind of remember is that he helped bring a lot of people together in the world.

BOLLING: Can I relay one quick story? This had to be the mid -- early to mid '90s. I'm in a restaurant down here in Soho called Boom at the time, it's called now, small venue -- not even a venue, a small restaurant, maybe 15 tables max. Prince is sitting in the back with -- there was a friend of his who brought musicians into places, Prince got up at around 10 o'clock and just started singing.


BOLLING: He didn't have a guitar; just started singing in the back and there were maybe 20 or 25 people in the restaurant. He would do that type of thing.

MONTGOMERY: Yeah, and it was incredible. And you hear these stories where he really loved to jam with musicians. You know whether it's rock or funk or jazz musicians. That's when he was happiest, and that's when he was fullest. And you know, you hear a lot about how he was such a shy person, but he was able to express himself completely in that music and in the company of other musicians. I'm sure, you know, and at someone like that who is so incredibly talented on so many instruments, it's got to be difficult to be in a band with a guy like that.

BOLLING: Yeah, all right. We want to go now to KMSP reporter Ted Haller at Prince's home in Chanhassen, Minnesota. Tell us what you have the very latest story?

TED HALLER, KMSP REPORTER: Well Eric, it's a quiet, kind of serene scene here in Chanhassen with one exception, and that's the people showing up here with their boom boxes and their radios and blasting their favorite Prince songs. But for those who have never been out here, Chanhassen and Paisley Park, particularly, it's a unique place. It's a compound, it's where Prince both lived, but he also -- he recorded music out here. He would have concerts. Other artists would have concerts here. And it's also where Prince would have these last-second overnight parties where he would just open up this building to strangers, to come here and party with Prince overnight. And he had one of those parties this last Saturday, in fact, which was a day after that plane making that emergency landing and we started to have these health concerns about Prince and talking to people who were here Saturday night. They said Prince, he seemed himself. Which means a little mysterious, but that's sort of the -- you know, the allure of Prince here. So the people who really knew Prince and have been following him closely the last few days here, they're surprised. They're in shock by this news. And right now, the choice for fans showing up here to try to pay their respects is to bring flowers and purple flowers, specifically, for the purple one. Eric?

BOLLING: All right. Thank you, Ted. So Eboni, if you go to YouTube and you type in Prince, you don't see a vast amount of YouTube videos. He kept a lot of that stuff for himself. He wasn't about making, you know, the extra buck of putting everything out everywhere. And as they just pointed out, as recently as Saturday, he was playing in his own private studio for a group of people.

WILLIAMS: Yeah, and that's what I'm saying Eric. I really love and respect that he represented just kind of like some integrity around this kind of issue, right? You know in the world today we have so many musicians that don't really seem to -- to me, value that in that same way, and I really love that about Prince that he was very steadfast about it. He was very clear on his ownership of his intellectual property, if you will. And that was important to him. And we look at the streaming and Spotify; we see Taylor Swift and other artist kind of following through it now. But I think he was really the pioneer behind that kind of ownership.

BOLLING: And he had a wide range of things he could cover in a song.


BOLLING: Is that not -- is that correct?

MONTGOMERY: No. That's absolutely right. And the -- it's really interesting to hear some of the songs that he's written. You think he's doing cover songs of Chaka Khan and Sinead O'Connor. But those are songs that he has written like "Nothing Compares 2 U."

PERINO: And also --

GUILFOYLE: And that's true -- yeah.

PERINO: Like having you here for the extra tease, but music videos, I mean Prince really, I think helped a lot like -- really, a lot of the different types of music videos that he would have where there was acting.


PERINO: He was a good actor as well.

MONTGOMERY: When you look at "Purple Rain."

PERINO: I'm not guessing.


MONTGOMERY: You can argue that the "Purple Rain," you know that first rock opera was really an extended long-form music video.


MONTGOMERY: Because it had all of those elements, there was dramatic, there was acting, there was music. There was a love story. There was a music rivalry. All of that stuff happening in one place. And it's (inaudible), because today we talk about politicians in terms of branding. You know on Donald Trump may be the best branded politician we've seen in this modern era and you know, President Obama really branded himself. And Prince was a master that, of branding his look and his music.


MONTGOMERY: And the visual and all of those things. You really figure that out from an early point in the MTV --

BOLLING: KG, last thought, we hear songs like "1999" "Kiss" "Little Red Corvette" "Purple Rain" "When Doves Cry".


BOLLING: My favorite.

GUILFOYLE: So many memories. BOLLING: It brings you back to that time.

GUILFOYLE: Well brings me back getting into a lot of trouble with my brother.


GUILFOYLE: Right? He loves to ride the versa-climber and I would sing the words and move on it, and my brother was like, that's it.


GUILFOYLE: Dad had to sent to same college as (inaudible) dad, but this and the gym -- that's Prince for you.

BOLLING: We're going to --

GUILFOYLE: Just do it.


BOLLING: We're going to leave it right there. Make sure you go find some of these live venues that he's played and listen to that guitar. It's fantastic. Much more ahead on the death of an international music icon, Prince, dead at age 57 -- we'll be back in a moment.


PRINCE: Maybe I'm just too demanding. Maybe I'm just like my father, too bold. Maybe you're just like mother, she never satisfied (she's never satisfied). Why do we scream at each other? This is what it sounds like when the doves cry.



GUILFOYLE: Welcome back to "The Five," and if you're just tuning in, the world got some very sad news today, Prince, the singer, songwriter and legendary artist passed away at his home at the age of 57. We'll return to that breaking news in a few moments. But now, to the presidential race, the two frontrunners took part in dueling town halls this morning, Donald Trump on the "Today Show," Hillary Clinton on GMA. Here are some of the highlights from Clinton's appearance.


HILLARY CLINTON, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am not going to be responding to all the crazy stuff he said. And I have said to groups that Sanders supporters that they may not support me now, I totally understand that. But I support them.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you going to release your Wall Street transcripts?

HILARY: Now there's a new request to release transcripts of speeches that have been given. When everybody agrees to do that, I will, as well. My greatest regret was voting to give President Bush authority in Iraq. It did not turn out the way that I had it would, based on what he had said. And I regret that.


GUILFOYLE: And here is Trump.


DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: When people see that I'm going bring jobs back to this country, when they see that I'm gonna strengthen up the military, when they see --


TRUMP: When they see that I'm going to have strong borders like nobody else can have and we will build a wall and Mexico will pay for the wall. We would have been better off if we never, if we never look at the Middle East for the last 15 years. North Carolina, what they're going through with all of the business that's leaving and all of the strife and it's on both sides. You leave it the way it is.


GUILFOYLE: Who are best -- no, I was just kidding. Who said it best? Who had -- what do you think?


GUILFOYLE: A little bit of a better communication during the town hall that might have been advanced their career.


PERINO: OK, on Hillary Clinton. I think it is true that she was very gracious in 2008 when she finally threw in the towel and it was clear that Barack Obama was going to be the nominee. She gave a speech on the convention floor and not just then, but leading up to the convention and she campaigned hard for him. But she would say -- I know that you want to vote for me as your nominee. That's not going to happen. I'm asking you, let's give our support behind President Obama, and then she becomes the secretary of state; like extremely gracious. I think the democrats are counting on Bernie Sanders doing something similar for Hillary Clinton, maybe in the not too distant future. I do disagree with her strongly on this whole thing about her biggest regret being the vote for the Iraq war. I think she should own that vote based on the information that they had at the time. Those votes made a lot of sense. Now you can regret how the war was conducted. You can regret that the WMD wasn't found. You can regret, regret a lot of things, but that vote was a solid one, and I don't think she should apologize for it.

GUILFOYLE: Yeah, and a lot of people made the same vote. So what's the problem?

WILLIAMS: That's right. Well the problem, I agree with you Kimberly, people made the same mistake. She would probably say that's very much responsibly -- as responsible for her 2008 loss. Because President Barack Obama, you know, that was such a big part of a lot of people's enthusiasm around him when he was the anti-Iraq guy, and that was so successful for him. So I'm sure she still feels --

PERINO: But he --


PERINO: Can I just push back a little bit on that.

WILLIAMS: Sure, sure.

PERINO: So she was in a different position. She was the United States senator.


PERINO: She was on a foreign policy committee or Armed Services, one of the two. And so she had the direct say, she had -- she knew all the info, she got the same briefing that everybody else did. Barack Obama, the way that he was able to, you know object to the Iraq war, was when he was voting present in the Illinois General Assembly.


PERINO: That's not a hard vote. I mean, she actually took a hard vote. Actually, but it wasn't that hard, based on the information she had. Even John Kerry voted for it. I think she should own it.

WILLIAMS: I think --




WILLIAMS: I just think that you're exactly right, Dana. But this is like the beauty of why Donald Trump, I think, was able to come up a little better this town hall, because he doesn't have a political record. When you've got a real political record, it is harder.

MONTGOMERY: I think that's also what worked to President Obama's benefit.

WILLIAMS: I agree.

MONTGOMERY: Is he didn't have that war vote on the --


MONTGOMERY: On the Iraq war.


MONTGOMERY: And you know, I listened to her and I'm like, are you actually running against George W. Bush? Are you doing the same thing that Barack Obama did.


MONTGOMERY: . in two presidential cycles in a row, because that tune has been played and we want to hear something else. You know, Donald Trump, to your point, Eboni, he doesn't have a voting record at all. He can say whatever he wants about the Middle East.


MONTGOMERY: And people can dig up interviews. And if he says something anecdotally, he can say, that was just a (inaudible) conversation.


MONTGOMERY: That's not how I really felt about something like that, but I also don't --

GUILFOYLE: So Bolling, you know what just happened to you?

BOLLING: I got --

GUILFOYLE: Outnumbered.

BOLLING: Outnumbered.


BOLLING: I got outnumbered. But that's OK, I just like --

GUILFOYLE: It's just have been the ladies to take care of --


BOLLING: I mean it's just really lucky guy right now.


BOLLING: Very lucky enough.

PERINO: But it's a fascinating conversation.

BOLLING: Oh yes, it is.


BOLLING: Can I just weigh in on the way it seems -- the way it feels like it's playing out right now. So Hillary goes on this town hall, does her thing this morning, and gets asked the one question that's going to be her Achilles going into a general election. So that was good. I thought that was fantastic.

PERINO: The transcripts.

BOLLING: The transcripts. I mean there's no going around that you have to produce some eventually, because if that's the line she's going to use, well everyone else has to produce transcripts, I'm sure they all will. Every single one of them --

PERINO: But also -- but if it's --

BOLLING: And what?

PERINO: But if it's Trump or Cruz, they can say, I don't have any.

BOLLING: Right -- or Bernie, or anyone. So that's --


BOLLING: So that's the point. But here's what he -- here's the wait it plays out for me, that Dana is right. I think within a very short period of time.


BOLLING: Bernie Sanders is going to get behind Hillary, because he wants to be the liberal superhero, right?

GUILFOYLE: He's got to. He's run that runway on that.

BOLLING: And what happens next, though? Think about this, Elizabeth Warren who's played laid back for a long time, gets jumps into that, that boat, also. That becomes a very powerful boat. That becomes Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. You have basically the whole spectrum of the left behind one candidate. On the other hand --


BOLLING: You have -- (inaudible).


BOLLING: On the other hand, you've got Trump out here, who gets asked about abortion, about immigration, about ISIS, and gets -- gets kind of beat up a little bit in that interview. Matt Lauer wasn't giving him any breaks, neither were the others, so he has that going on, and everyone is.


BOLLING: . picking apart every word he says on it. At some point, the GOP has to take a cue from the democrats and say, get behind someone.


BOLLING: . and let's all fight this thing out together.

GUILFOYLE: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one behind the wheel. All right, Dana, you love the song "Girl Crush," right?

PERINO: That's what I want to hear -- I do love that song.

GUILFOYLE: You do love it. Well, we all have --

PERINO: I sang it to you once.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, you did.


GUILFOYLE: And a most (inaudible) for me too, and a lot of people have a girl crush on Melania Trump. So Melania and Hillary -- yeah, Kennedy, Hilary Clinton both spoke this morning about habits that they would like to see their husbands give up -- stop it hubbies. Here are both of them on that.


SAVANNAH GUTHRIE, "TODAY" CO-HOST: What's the one habit you wish he'd give up?


MELANIA TRUMP, WIFE OF DONALD TRUMP: Let's see -- re-tweeting.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What would you say is Bill's most annoying habit?

CLINTON: No matter how tired he is he always feels like he has to read before he falls asleep. So he used to have the light on.


CLINTON: But he always falls asleep. So that means I have to get up, go around and turn the light off on the other side of the bed.




GUILFOYLE: Isn't that so interesting. You all probably have at all a little private thoughts.

PERINO: I bet those are two good answers, though.



GUILFOYLE: She gave good ones.

PERINO: Not an easy, not an easy question for Hillary Clinton.



GUILFOYLE: Not at all.

PERINO: Everyone is gonna go, oh, my god --


PERINO: And I thought that was --


GUILFOYLE: Give up cigars.

MONTGOMERY: I thought that she was going to talk about hot sauce in her purse again. You know, just ABB, Anything But Bill.


WILLIAMS: Well, I believe that she didn't talk about hot sauce, if you were -- definitely not. I didn't hear about that.


MONTGOMERY: And George Stephanopoulos with the knowing look there?

GUILFOYLE: Yeah, I mean that's the --



PERINO: It's like oh, I know, he leaves the light on all the time. He drives me crazy.

GUILFOYLE: She right. And feasting on -- oh, McDonald's, yeah.

BOLLING: And good luck on getting Donald Trump to stop tweeting.

GUILFOYLE: Yeah, exactly.

PERINO: John F. Kennedy (ph) is not tweeting for two weeks.

BOLLING: He did?

PERINO: I (inaudible). I deleted his Twitter account --


PERINO: With his permission.


PERINO: And I think he put it back, though.

GUILFOYLE: Good thing he's a "Five" fan. All right, we have to go, but that was very, very fun. All right, next, we return to the breaking news outside Minneapolis today, Prince, the legendary musician and performer, was found dead at the age of 57, we continue to look back at his remarkable life and career. Stay tuned.



PRINCE: I think I'm beginning, as I was coming into my own persona and understanding of who I was, I never talk down to my audience. And when you don't talk down to your audience, then they can grow with you. And I give them a lot of credit to be able to hang with me this long, because I've gone through a lot of changes, but they've allowed me to grow. And thus, we can tackle some serious subjects and try to just be better human beings, all of us.


KENNEDY: All right. That was Prince, from back in 2013 in a rare TV interview with Tavis Smiley. The music giant was found dead today at his home in suburban Minneapolis. He was only 57 years old. Still no word on the cause of his death, but we know he was briefly hospitalized on Friday while battling the flu.

Kimberly, you had texted me earlier. We were trying to figure out...


KENNEDY: ... as lay people, as fans of his music, saddened by his passing, what possibly could have taken him down. And you know, there have been a couple of prophetic things that people have talked about, including his autobiography that was supposed to come out next year. He said it was going to be from his very first memory all the way up to the 2007 Super Bowl. You know, we obviously don't know the cause of death. But do you get the feeling that somehow he knew he was not going to live a long life?

GUILFOYLE: Yes, and he had started working on those memoirs, and the report was that he had accomplished and completed, like 50 pages of it. And so now you wonder what will happen as you listen to tape recordings or something.

But also, did you hear this report earlier, Kennedy, that he had made a statement, when he was playing -- "Pray for me -- wait a few days before you do that."

BOLLING: Before you waste your prayers.

GUILFOYLE: So that he kind of suggested that he knew something wasn't quite right or he had a sense or a feeling about it. You know, people are wondering, did he have some kind of long-term illness or genetic issue that was exacerbated by the flu? That could have caused some heart failure or something like that, when he was in the elevator. Perhaps he was going downstairs to get help.

It reminded me of when the big breaking news happened, with Michael Jackson, and there were so many questions that -- forensic and medical ones that people had to find out exactly what was the cause of death. And with celebrity cases, you really have to get to the bottom of it. Because otherwise, there's no rest. Because the theories and the conspiracies and the speculation go on and on.

KENNEDY: Now -- absolutely right. Now, Eric, we've also heard about this vault, where he had possibly hundreds of songs.


KENNEDY: You know, he lived, essentially, in his studio. He built this $10 million complex in the '80s so he could write and record whenever he wanted. He stayed up all night long working, and you have to imagine that there's some incredible stuff in there. And maybe that is the one silver lining here for music fans. Geraldo again...

GUILFOYLE: He'll get involved.

BOLLING: He'll actually find something in this vault.

GUILFOYLE: Geraldo's on his way.

BOLLING: Prophetic, as we...

KENNEDY: ... lost record.

BOLLING: ... talk about what Kimberly just said.

But also, I find this story fascinating. A lot of people who don't follow Prince or haven't followed Prince, when he came out with the symbol, everyone thought, well, how egotistical is this guy? He's just going to use a symbol instead of a name. But there's a back-story to that.


BOLLING: He had a huge fight ongoing with his record label, and they were fighting over the name "Prince." He wanted to own it; the record label said they owned it. So he said, "I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to start calling myself this symbol" just to throw a wrench in the system. And I thought that was so fascinating, and he never really explained that well, because he didn't really care. It was just about "I'm going to do this for me, not for you."

GUILFOYLE: But a brilliant legal move when you think about it.


GUILFOYLE: And he was able to do that, and then when the contract was up with the company, he was able to take the name back and use it. But it just shows, I mean, a great artist is creative like that.

WILLIAMS: And a political statement, too, because I believe it was the Grammys red carpet one year around this time, you're talking about, Eric. He had "plague" written on his face, and I think we all pretty much knew where he stood...

KENNEDY: And that was at the height of the Warner Brothers fight. And he would perform like that, as well.

It's interesting. He had a couple of parallels with another musical hero of mine who has also passed on, Frank Zappa. You know, they delivered as many records as they could in a short period of time. Very prolific, musical geniuses; and they also are connected by politics.

It was Prince's song "Darling Nikki" that Tipper Gore responded to. She was so offended by it she started the Parents Music Resource Center; and that led to congressional hearings about the First Amendment.

So even though, you know, you talked about the transcendent power of music that crosses politics, crosses culture. And here...

PERINO: He pushed the envelope, right? And so he got attention for that. And what a consequential life.

And it wasn't just young people at the time that admired him. I remember recently going to "The Etta James Show." She, Etta James, the great legend, she did a cover of "Purple Rain." And if you haven't heard that, you can look it up on the Internets [SIC], that the former vice president's wife, husband...

KENNEDY: Invented.

PERINO: ... invented for all of us to enjoy.

KENNEDY: Tipper and Al Gore. The gift that keeps on giving.

BOLLING: You brought it all back together.

PERINO: But the thing I had to -- a memory of, the Etta James thing. I've got to figure out how to get that in there.

But I would say, yes, obviously, he did not shy away from the -- not just political controversies, but taking on big business. And that music industry has changed dramatically from when he first produced his first solo album. Now it's actually a little bit easier to do that because of technology.


PERINO: But still big record companies -- that's like the whole show "Nashville" about that.

KENNEDY: Yes. And that's exactly what he did. He saw the future and started distributing his own music online. A visionary to the end.

All right. More to come on the death of Prince, ahead, but next on "The Five," we'll return to the presidential race. We'll be back in a moment. Stay here.



PERINO: We've got more to come on the death of music legend Prince in a moment, but now to some news on the presidential race.

If Hillary Clinton wins the Democratic nomination, she's going to have an uphill battle shaking off her high unfavorability with voters. DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz had a hard time explaining those poor numbers last night.


MEGYN KELLY, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Her negatives are going up. I mean, they always go up in these contests, but her negatives ae pretty high.

REP. DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ (D-FL), DNC CHAIR: You do the head-to-head match-up, and neither one of our candidates beats any of the Republican candidates.

And when you are looking at energy and enthusiasm, that's really what is helping voters decide whether they're going to go out and be motivated enough to vote for a candidate, work for a candidate. Organize, knock on doors, make phone calls. And so those are the kinds of stats that I want to see when it comes to the momentum that either one of our candidates is going to have going into a general election.


PERINO: Wasserman-Schultz also didn't help the front-runner much when she seemed to dodge a question about Hillary's controversial C.P.-time joke.


WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: I've been asked over and over to comment on different aspects or things that each of our candidates have said. I just think it's not appropriate for me to weigh in on things like that. It's -- that's better asked of the candidates themselves and the people that are specifically advocating on behalf of those candidates. I focus on the general election.


PERINO: So I was sitting there, Eric. I was on right after Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and I'm listening to her answer that question about the C.P.-time joke. And I'm thinking, "I'm trying really hard not to feel sorry for her right now, but she's kind of stuck in between a rock and a hard place."

The thing I thought about that, too, is that it got to the character point. Hillary Clinton blamed that on Bill de Blasio. Even as she had participated. They had rehearsed it, and she was fully a part of it.

BOLLING: Sure. I think the question had to be asked, and I think she handled it well.

PERINO: What else was she going to say?

BOLLING: She can't speak. For her to throw an opinion out there could -- you know, could be viewed as either favorable or unfavorable.

PERINO: And the Bernie people would be mad.


On the unfavorables, Hillary -- oddly enough, Donald Trump on the GOP side and Hillary Clinton on the Democrat side have the highest unfavorables; yet they're leading the races. So I think -- look, and they're both high; they're both extremely high. So I'm not sure that that's exactly resonating. I don't think that's an advantage for either side.

KENNEDY: Can I ask you something about that, though? And this is something that I've noticed with their unfavorables. It seems like Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have the same momentum shifts. You know, they both come to New York, they both do really well. They both have these high, astronomically high unfavorables, but now they're the presumptive nominees for their respective parties.

They both had several hard weeks. You know, you look at Wisconsin for Ted Cruz, Donald Trump had several setbacks, with Corey Lewandowski and the abortion issue and a couple of other things. And Hillary Clinton losing seven out of eight states to Bernie Sanders.

Are we going to see that throughout the election until November?

PERINO: Well, I think that if Bernie Sanders does do the -- what Hillary Clinton did for Obama in 2008, and he says, "Look, I want you to be gracious, and I want you to support her, in all the things," if he's going to go out and campaign for her, I think that the Democrats could probably heal up pretty quickly, don't you think, Eboni?

WILLIAMS: I think if he does that, you're right, Dana. I think the difference is -- is during the course of that primary in 2008, as nasty as it was between Hillary and Barack, he didn't come out as damaged around the character issues. You know, Bernie is really getting her on the trustworthiness an just how unfavorable.

PERINO: And without even trying.

WILLIAMS: Without even trying, and that's really hurting her. So she's saying, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, dude, pump the brakes. You are really leaving me in critical condition going into November." And I think Barack Obama didn't have that problem. So that's the distinction I see.

PERINO: But I have a theory -- go ahead, Kimberly -- that I don't think it's so much Sanders that has been driving down Hillary's numbers. You have a super PAC like America Rising, which is -- goes after Hillary for -- consistently for about 18 months, and from the beginning they said, "She is untrustworthy, she is not likable. You are not going to be able to trust her." And I think that that has really driven down her numbers. Not so what Bernie Sanders has done. Because he never even -- remember he said, "I'm not going to after you on emails"? And even in debates, he doesn't attack her on being untrustworthy.

GUILFOYLE: Yes. I mean, that's going to have, you know, a deleterious impact and effect on the people's perception of her over time, because you keep hearing it over and over again. And eventually, it just, like, penetrates, and it bleeds in.

So she's going to have a tough time with that. She's been getting hit hard for a while.

But as some may say, the best is yet to come. Because now when you'll see people unloading opposition research, other things on her, the narrative, the thread has already been, like, laid out so people will say, "It makes sense. I've kind of heard this." And then if they can back it up with facts and specifics, that could, you know, really hurt her even further when people say, "Well, maybe I have an issue with Trump, but you know what? Hillary Clinton has all of these other problems." It could be...

PERINO: We've probably, like, never seen this before. We're going to make history, possibly, this election.

All right. Ahead, a lot of celebrities are reacting to the news of Prince's death. Here's some of their reflections on the late music legend. That's next.


WILLIAMS: Welcome back to "The Five," and we return to the shocking and very, very tragic news today of the loss of a music pioneer, Prince.

Tributes have been pouring in on social media from his colleagues and other celebrities. Here's a tweet from singer Katy Perry: "And just like that, the world lost a lot of magic. Rest in peace, Prince. Thanks for giving us so much."

Whoopi Goldberg writes, "This is what it sounds like when doves cry. Prince, rest in peace. Condolences to his family and to us all."

And singer, Darius Rucker: "Once again, heaven's band got even more incredible. One of my absolute idols, Prince. Thank you for showing me what true greatness is."

PERINO: Nice. Very nice.

WILLIAMS: You know, this kind of loss, I'm actually still very much in shock. You know, here on the East Coast, we just kind of got this news a few hours ago. I was at lunch, and I actually wasn't touching my phone, trying to do good lunch etiquette, turned it over and see the updates and the alerts, and I couldn't believe it.

So faith helps me out a lot of times in stuff like this. And one of the things that I believe is that sometimes people leave this earth when they have given us all they have to give. An artist gives so very much.

So I always say my favorite Prince song -- and I'm going to ask everybody at the table to go around, we actually bumped in with it: "The Most Beautiful Girl in the World." That is, like, my all-time favorite Prince song. They used to play it at pageants, and I love it.

K.G., what's yours?

GUILFOYLE: You're always the winner.

WILLIAMS: No, I'm not always.


PERINO: You're a winner.

GUILFOYLE: In our hearts. And at this table you are.

So many favorite songs, many that we cannot say the name of. But you know them. But I also love "Little Red Corvette." That was one of my favorites. And then "Kiss." I like that one.

WILLIAMS: Oh, that's a good song.

KENNEDY: I love "Little Red Corvette," and it's one of my favorite karaoke songs. It's genius, and it always gets the crowd going.

GUILFOYLE: Karaoke at Kennedy's.

PERINO: To be a little different, I will say "Raspberry Beret." That's a great song.

WILLIAMS: That is a great one -- E.

BOLLING: So here's the deal. I don't like the three-minute pop songs on the radio. But you take any one of these songs and you listen to Prince live or with the collaboration with Clapton -- whether it be Clapton or Lenny Kravitz or he just -- just goes off on his guitar.


BOLLING: I mean, that -- his skill, I think he's a great piano player; he's a great vocalist; but his guitar is -- was one of the best.

WILLIAMS: The music riffs, I love it. All right. "One More Thing" is up next.


BOLLING: All right. Time for "One More Thing." Kennedy had a really funny joke in the break. I'm not sure she's going to give it to you or not. But Kimberly, you're first.

GUILFOYLE: All right. Well, it's time for...


GUILFOYLE: Kimberly's Royal News


GUILFOYLE: What's happening around here, wheels fall off the bus?

OK. So you know we love the queen, because you heard that from me yesterday. But today is the actual 90th birthday. And so we had a nice little celebration here. She wore a kiri (ph) grass green coat -- that's how they're describing it -- for her birthday appearance in London. And she and Prince Philip were cheered by well-wishers during her special birthday walkabout in Windsor.

And in particular interest to me, in another highly featured segment called "Kimberly's Food Court," we would have a feast -- feast, Sean; maybe another time -- of the orange drizzle cake with vanilla butter cream and orange marmalade inside. This is the special cake that the queen requested.

PERINO: No one can make cakes like the British. They make good cakes.

BOLLING: You're up, Dana.

PERINO: OK. So you know I love a contest. A little contest. The Scripps National Spelling Bee. Do you know that for the last two years there's been a tie?


PERINO: So they had to figure out what they are going to do. So get this: now, they're changing the system. They used to have a pre-determined list of 25 words. Now, they're going up to 75 words. So these kids that are competing. Apparently, the former spellers and the current ones all applaud the changes. And the spelling bee is going to take place May 24 through the 26th. And we will bring you that breaking news...


PERINO: ... when it happens.

BOLLING: So they can memorize 25 words?

GUILFOYLE: That's so interesting.

BOLLING: Is that that is?

PERINO: Like 25. Which is why -- so they had to make it harder. So now they're going to 75 words.

GUILFOYLE: They should have just had Steve Harvey call the winner. Right, Eboni?

BOLLING: They're yelling at me. I'll get this in here very quickly. Guess what happens Saturday? "The Five," we have a special live show on Saturday. Special weekend edition of "The Five." We're going to break down the upcoming five, big five-state, 172 delegate races coming up.

GUILFOYLE: My God. We're like Prince. We just have a symbol, "The Five." We just have a symbol like Prince.

PERINO: Do we have to dress up or can we wear our Saturday attire?

GUILFOYLE: Isn't it the same?

KENNEDY: Jammies and ascots?

BOLLING: OK. Eboni is up.

WILLIAMS: All right. So this is really exciting. Everybody has to get into the Olympic spirit. I mean, we're about 100 days out from the games that are going to be in Brazil. And they have now lit the torch. So it's going to be a relay. They're going to run it. They would go right there in Olympia, Greece.


WILLIAMS: You know, it's going to be really -- there's a lot going on.

PERINO: Is that burning citronella? I hope so.

WILLIAMS: I hope so, because it smells good and you're kind of wearing a very citron color.

PERINO: It fights mosquitoes.

WILLIAMS: It smells good, fragrant and purposeful.

BOLLING: There we go.


Hit the buzzer.

BOLLING: Goodness gracious. You're up.

KENNEDY: Why thank you, Eric. Tonight, it will be a very special edition of "Kennedy" on the FOX Business Network, 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 Pacific. We will be discussing the life and death of Prince the entire hour with experts, reporters and writers who knew him, who met him, including Frank Zappa's son. We'll talk about some of the parallels of their lives. Neil Straus, the New York Times best-selling author who recently interviewed Prince, and many other commentators who have dipped in and out of his life. And they will be giving us a broad and beautiful portrait. So make sure you set your DVR for that.

PERINO: Or just watch.


KENNEDY: It's the cool show.

BOLLING: All right. We're going to leave it right there. Set your DVR so you never miss an episode of "The Five." That's it for us. "Special Report" coming up right now.

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