Trump swears off swearing as race heads to South Carolina
Palmetto State known for 'dirty trick' allegations
This is a rush transcript from "The Five," February 14, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Eric Bolling along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Juan Williams, Melissa Francis, and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 o'clock New York City and this is right here is "The Five."
Eight days until the South Carolina primary takes place on the GOP side and the three front-running -- frontrunners today announcing big shifts in the direction of their respective campaign strategies. Donald Trump's trademark is his bold brass style. He isn't one to mince words. That's part of his appeal to many voters, but he is vowing to clean up his language a bit after coming under criticism for cursing too much on the trail. He swears he's not going to swear again.
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DONALD TRUMP, GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I won't use foul language. I'm just not going to do it. You're all saying do it, do it, no. I'm not. Even if it is not a bad word, if it is a little bit off, they'll kill me. So I won't do it. I'll never do it again, actually. And I'll never even copy somebody what they asked me to say.
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BOLLING: All right. Trump's campaign is also now adopting an all positive strategy, pulling an ad that was running in South Carolina that attacked Ted Cruz. Cruz, however, isn't letting up accusing his opponent of a long- time pattern of sleaze.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Vera Cooking's home was all she had left, but it stood in Donald Trump's way, in the limousine, parking lot he wanted for his casino. To him, she was a nobody. So Trump schemed with Atlantic City government to force Cooking from her home using eminent domain. Trump bankrolled the politicians to scheme roll the little guy, a pattern of sleaze stretching back decades. Worst, Trump still supports eminent domain today.
TRUMP: Eminent domain is wonderful.
Yes, we have to use the power of eminent domain.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Trump used his power for personal gains. Imagine the damage he can do as president.
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BOLLING: Well, that didn't sit well. Trump says those are all lies.
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TRUMP: These ads are vicious and they say anything. They say anything. I just hope you don't believe the crap because it's all crap. OK? They're lies. I mean they're lies. They talk about eminent domain. Without eminent domain, you wouldn't have a road. Without eminent domain, you wouldn't have hospitals, you wouldn't have anything. By the way, without eminent domain, you wouldn't have the key stone pipeline.
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BOLLING: All right, Greg. Let's start with you. A good idea or a bad idea for Trump to pivot to an all positive?
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Look, swearing is like those -- I always compare them to those dried red pepper flakes you put on a pizza, you know, it's like you got to use it sparingly. So when you start relying on swearing too much then it loses its meaning and I think he saw the light, which was that focus group by Bloomberg, which everybody was aghast every time he swore. He should travel with a swear jar. I think that would be -- I think that would be a very fun little thing for him to do.
As for this ad, I'm not so sure the ad exists. I saw a little flash of it, but this is brilliant because we're still talking about the ad. We led the A block with an ad that we don't even see or we're not even sure it exists. So again, he's played the media like a violin because we're all talking about it. As for the Cruz ad, he is right about -- you know, he is right about hospitals and pipelines, but that's still not a casino parking lot. That's a private thing. The casino parking lot is a private thing, you know, pipelines for the country. Eminent domain is important for important matters but not for a casino pipeline.
BOLLING: Great. KG, the thoughts on these big shifts on strategies eight days out.
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Yeah. I mean, look, it actually worked well for him, you know, in New Hampshire when he was trying to be more positive and stop doing the attacks, you know, about two or three days before. So they said that worked well for them there and they're going to repeat that and they decided to pull the ads. But you know, Ted Cruz is the one doing the negative ads. So you know, he's going to have to deal with that. You have that coming up.
BOLLING: We'll have a little of that. Juan, just a quick thought on Trump's new kinder, gentler Donald?
JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST: I don't -- look. I mean, he is alpha male, Mr. Tough guy. You know, I think the cursing and the profanity which Rubio said he can't even tell his kid the last -- to use the word, you know, but I don't know how to get around this. But anyway, he can't use that word because he can't explain it to his own kids. I think that's a legit point. But on the other hand, if you are a Donald Trump fan, I think you say he is not a PC guy. He just tells it like it is and I like it. And so, I think it sells the Trump brand.
BOLLING: You think -- by the way, I think Sheppard Smith pointed out, there are already a few after posts no more swearing. I swear that slipped out.
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MELISSA FRANCIS, CO-HOST: What do you mean little words though? I mean .
BOLLING: Little ones.
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FRANCIS: I mean they were small words that you don't flinch at right away. I mean I love it what if they say right now we're running a positive campaign as if we're going to be positive today and that's it. And what is so funny about that is from Trump that's news, like the fact that he's going to get out there and say, "We're not going to, you know, go scorched earth and make fun of everyone and swear," that he could turn that into a news story because that's the difference for him. I mean I think this is what he's doing today and he'll be back to normal Trump.
GUILFOYLE: Well, when somebody tries to hit him, he's going to knock them down.
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BOLLING: Let's talk about the person that's trying to hit him and has been hitting him, Ted Cruz accuses Trump of sleaze, but he just suffered a major embarrassment after featuring an adult film star in his attack ad.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Does anyone else here struggled with being lied to?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I voted for a guy who was a tea party hero on the campaign trail. Then he went to D.C. And played Patty Pagel and Chuck Schumer (ph)and cut a deal on amnesty.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Does that make you angry?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Angry? No. It makes me feel dumb for trusting him.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Maybe should you vote for more than just a pretty face next time.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you guys have room for one more?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on in. Come on in.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on in. You can have Frank's chair.
TED CRUZ, GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm Ted Cruz and I approved this message.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BOLLING: The Cruz campaign immediately pulled the ad after realizing she had an X-rated resume. They say she was not vetted fully by the casting company. Now, KG .
(CROSSTALK)
GUILFOYLE: They said she is an actress and it was an open call. I think it was pretty funny.
BOLLING: . but he put his name on it at the end.
GUILFOYLE: He put his name on it and somebody should have vetted it. He just have to make sure especially when you have, you know, actress, open casting call, anything can happen.
BOLLING: Now, Juan, this -- look. We're not prudes here. We get it. This stuff happens. However, going into South Carolina, very evangelical, very religious group, they may not like that. Now, it's been on every TV for the last 12 hours.
WILLIAMS: I'm going to stand up for this young lady. I find this outrageous. This woman said she is a conservative, evangelical Republican, and here you are condemning her. She may be a saved soul, Eric.
BOLLING: No. I'm not condemning her.
WILLIAMS: What are you doing?
BOLLING: I'm condemning the Cruz campaign that didn't vet and put a performance .
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WILLIAMS: I don't think that's .
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BOLLING: By the way, I don't think -- I don't think it would matter in any other -- once they get through South Carolina maybe a little bit in the south, they probably wouldn't make that .
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FRANCIS: She is an actress. I mean she is an actress. She's been in a ton of stuff. Who cares?
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WILLIAMS: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You've been an actress. You've been an actress but you're not .
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GUTFELD: I got a -- I got a .
GUILFOYLE: Not the one you have.
(LAUGHTER)
GUTFELD: A Christian candidate -- a Christian candidate should embrace redemption .
WILLIAMS: There you go.
GUTFELD: . and he could have turned this thing around when this news broke. He could have turned it around and said, "Look. I applaud, I laude there woman for making a change in her life. It is a positive thing." And instead he turned like a coward and he ran. If he had any guts, he would put that ad back up there and say, "I was wrong. This woman is doing right by her life. She's made a positive change. I salute and support her."
FRANCIS: Many more people have seen the ad though.
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BOLLING: Right. But he's -- but he's running .
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GUTFELD: Trump should hire her. Trump should put her in an ad.
BOLLING: Pick her up saying we can fix this.
GUTFELD: Yes.
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BOLLING: One of the other ads that Ted Cruz put out today was a play off of office space and in it is, "Damn, the Clintons have it good." Now, evangelicals in South Carolina aren't liking that word either.
GUTFELD: Yeah. But you know what? You know, this is again pandering. It's just pure pandering. So you change your language because you're going to a specific state? It's appearing like you're from New York or something. I don't know.
BOLLING: There's the ad right there.
WILLIAMS: You know what strikes me is remember you said .
GUTFELD: Poor woman.
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WILLIAMS: I thought he said he was not going to curse anymore. But then when he's talking about the Cruz ad he says it's crap, right? I mean I don't think this is presidential language by any way. I mean .
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GUILFOYLE: This is the ad against Hillary Clinton.
WILLIAMS: What?
GUILFOYLE: This is an ad -- the ad we're talking about now is an ad against Hillary Clinton.
(CROSSTALK)
WILLIAMS: But the whole thing -- I mean the whole thing .
GUILFOYLE: Focus, Juan. Focus.
WILLIAMS: This could be a comedy. I mean is this really a campaign?
BOLLING: I don't know. I actually like these ads. Anyway, Marco Rubio didn't fare well in New Hampshire. He is now taking a more aggressive approach to reinvigorating his presidential bid, tearing into his opponents.
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MARCO RUBIO, GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: This notion that I hear from some people when I was governor, when I was mayor, when I was whatever, I did this or I did that. No, you didn't. Donald Trump had zero foreign policy experience. Negotiating a hotel deal in another country is not foreign policy experience. Jeb Bush has no foreign policy experience. Ted Cruz, the only budget he has ever voted for in his years in Washington it was a budget sponsored by Rand Paul that brags about cutting defense spending.
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BOLLING: And so, Melissa, I think Trump wears the attack well. I think Jeb wears it poorly. I'm not sure. That was better than I thought it would be coming out of Rubio.
FRANCIS: It was good, but I mean he was walking around alone, supported by people who support him. So I mean it's a good argument, but he doesn't have anyone there siding (ph) against him, challenging him. I mean the only way anyone beats Trump is if it comes down to one person and then you have to choose between two. I mean it just -- it doesn't seem like he's in a position where he can mount that momentum, Marcomentum, whatever it was. Again, it's too late.
BOLLING: What do you think of the new strategy?
GUTFELD: Well, he's got to unload that kryptonite, you know. He has to bleach last Saturday from everybody's memory. So this is what he has to do, but I agree with Melissa. He has got to do it on a stage facing people. It is about this Saturday. It is not about walking around. It is easy to walk around and say stuff. But if you're going to face -- if you're going to be up on stage, you got to -- you got to win that battle.
BOLLING: Yes. That's the issue. The inability to counterpunch.
WILLIAMS: Here is the return fire. I think he is so wide open. He is a freshman senator, right? He has -- when he talks about no foreign policy experience, wow! I mean, wow. I think anybody can take him out on this one. I mean this is like .
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GUILFOYLE: Well -- and then the question is who will take him out? So he took heavy fire from Christie. It was devastating, right? I mean -- I think he just almost froze like he was going to have a panic attack and just like, "Where do I -- where do I go?"
BOLLING: Yeah. And that's just a debate .
GUILFOYLE: No response. Yeah. But who's going to do that to him? Maybe, I don't know. Maybe Bush will try, maybe Kasich.
BOLLING: Well, someone has got to test and see if he actually has it or .
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GUTFELD: Yeah. He's got to go out. He has to be the aggressor.
GUILFOYLE: Yeah. He has got to preempt.
BOLLING: The one guy who hasn't changed his strategy, John Kasich has vowed to stick to his positive campaign strategy, but he is giving Jeb Bush a dig or two after the former Florida governor hit him on his record.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How has he been doing whacking everybody?
JOHN KASICH, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He spent more money than anybody -- I think everybody combined and he is not even close to winning. So I'm not going on get hung up on that. I'm not going down the rabbit hole.
JEB BUSH, GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm laying out my reason why I'm the leader to take our country forward. Governor Kasich is a good guy and he's been a good governor. But my record as conservative reformer far exceeds his. And that's not attacking. That's not negative. That's what you call comparing and contrasting.
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BOLLING: Juan?
WILLIAMS: So here's what I'm looking at now. As we look -- go into the weekend, go into the big debate, we have two very clear lines, it's Cruz taking on Trump, Trump taking on Cruz. And then you have Kasich, Rubio, and I guess Kasich trying to stay on the upside of things, but they're all .
FRANCIS: And Bush.
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WILLIAMS: Bush is in there absolutely. They're all in there attack each other. That's the fight.
BOLLING: How do you see it?
FRANCIS: I think that's all true, but I think the only reason why Kasich is so positive is because he doesn't have the money to go negative. I mean he doesn't have anyone to back him. He doesn't have death star like Super PAC that Jeb Bush has to shoot down at everyone else. I mean he's kind of just gotten there by scrapping along and doing -- he has no other tools in his tool box right now until he gets some money. So it's not a choice. It is out of necessity.
GUTFELD: Yes. He is playing I'm above it all .
FRANCIS: Right.
GUTFELD: . because there's nothing below. There is a hypocrisy complaining about negative that ads.
GUILFOYLE: Mean under the table.
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GUTFELD: Kasich is a .
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GUILFOYLE: He's great and he was awesome when he was here on set.
GUTFELD: He was. He was. But he's complaining about -- it is like complaining about your opponent's strong offense. If you had it, you would do it.
WILLIAMS: Absolutely.
GUILFOYLE: Yeah. I don't mind it. If you want to -- come on. Like you got to be tough. You got to be able to take the hits and you got to be able to dish them out. It's not like the little popularity contest, "Hey, I want to be president of the United States. I'm the one you should choose. This guy over here he sucks and so does this guy and this is why and this is what I can do. Like deal." You want to be president and commander in chief?
BOLLING: All right. We have a lot more. Next, she is accusing him of artful smears. He is accusing her of low blows. Some high drama at the Democratic debate last night, the highlights coming up. And later, Facebook Friday, we're going to answer your questions, so post them now in our Facebook page, facebook.com/thefivefmc.
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FRANCIS: Last time Hillary Clinton ran for president, Barack Obama was her target at the democratic debates. This time around, she can't say enough nice things about him. She brought the president's name up 21 times in her sixth showdown with Bernie Sanders.
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HILLARY CLINTON, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am a staunch supporter of President Obama's principal accomplishment, namely the Affordable Care Act.
What president Obama succeeded in doing was to build on the healthcare system we have.
I think under President Obama we have seen a lot of advances. I think President Obama has set a great example. I think what President Obama did was to exemplify the importance of this issue as our first African-American president.
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FRANCIS: Talk about stuck on repeat. Hillary was on a mission to defend Obama's legacy and slam Sanders for not doing the same.
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CLINTON: Senator Sanders said that President Obama failed the presidential leadership test and this is not the first time that he has criticized President Obama.
The kind of criticism we heard from Senator Sanders about our president I expect from Republicans. I do not expect from someone running for the Democratic nomination.
BERNIE SANDERS, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Madam Secretary, that is a low blow. I think it is really unfair to suggest that I have not been supportive of the president. I have been a strong ally on him, with him on virtually every issue. Do senators have the right to disagree with the president? Have you ever disagreed with a president? I suspect you may have.
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FRANCIS: KG, is this a good idea? I mean she's buttering the president up so she doesn't get indicted or is this a good strategy in South Carolina? Is he popular?
GUILFOYLE: I mean, you know, good luck with that. She practically turned herself into Obama's Siamese twin, right? He went to like scratch his back last night. She would be right there, hello. It's crazy. I don't know. Because she can't even rely on her own popularity because she is not popular or credible or trustworthy or a good choice. I mean she is getting crushed by a socialist .
FRANCIS: Yes .
GUILFOYLE: . who is kind of funny, who had a Saturday Night Live segment. But commander in chief, I don't think so. I'm actually getting worried. I think Bernie can beat her.
WILLIAMS: Hold on. You know this is about his race, right?
BOLLING: Of course. This all African-American .
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GUILFOYLE: Yeah. OK. Well, listen, whatever kind of butt kissing she is doing, it is not going to even pay off. She can't even sell herself.
BOLLING: I think it's genius. I think she is brilliant doing this. Remember there's all these issues like the Obamas and Clintons can't stand each other.
GUILFOYLE: Maybe its an (inaudible). But guess what happens in general election?
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BOLLING: You know I absolutely agree with you. However .
GUILFOYLE: . when you run a montage of her mentioning and how she is in the next Obama 30 times in a row.
(CROSSTALK)
BOLLING: Right now, coming out of New Hampshire where Bernie Sanders kicks her butt and puts her down by 22 points, she comes out and she needs the south now, right? The firewall .
WILLIAMS: That's what I'm saying.
GUILFOYLE: Right.
BOLLING: The African-American vote in the south. So she is shoring that up because Obama got 93 percent of the African-American vote. So if she looks like she is the next Obama term, she gets their vote.
GUILFOYLE: Well, she can get South Carolina. That's about all she's going to get because this will not help her in the general election one bit.
WILLIAMS: Wait a second. But this is going to help win the nomination going across the south and Virginia .
GUILFOYLE: Fine.
WILLIAMS: . Alabama, Georgia .
GUILFOYLE: No one is interested in 90-yard dash, Juan, 100-yard dash.
WILLIAMS: Oh, yes. We got to win the nomination.
GUILFOYLE: All right. Let's see what happens.
WILLIAMS: But I'm just saying the key here -- excuse me -- I just want to make this point. The key is she identifies with Obama for the black voter in the southern states. The question in my mind, it is a little tricky. Wait a minute. What has Barack Obama actually achieved for black America? Yes, he is iconic. He is the first black president and I think he is a very dignified, intelligent guy. But he has been reluctant I think to offer policies to deal with problems in the black community, high unemployment, high poverty, incarceration .
(CROSSTALK)
WILLIAMS: . because he doesn't want to be identified as the black president. He thinks his critics, especially his white critics, will say, "Oh, no. You're the black president. We don't have to take you seriously."
BOLLING: Can I just say something? So if Barack Obama were going to run for another term, what percentage of the African-American vote he will get?
WILLIAMS: Because he is iconic, I think he will still get the 90 percent.
BOLLING: So it doesn't matter what his policies are.
WILLIAMS: But remember, Hillary Clinton is not black. She can't use that as an excuse for inaction.
GUILFOYLE: Juan.
FRANCIS: Greg, let me ask you. Because he talks about how she's got to use this in order to get the nomination, but wait a second. I thought she had all the super delegates. I mean I thought this was no race that it was rigged on the Democratic side, that it didn't matter what the people in the Democratic Party wanted or went out and voted or not. She has the super delegates to do whatever they want. So why does she needs then to get in there and pan it?
GUTFELD: That's the beauty of the super delegates. They actually took delegates that might have belonged to Bernie and gave them to her. He has to embrace that because that's socialism. That was the maker and a taker moment. They took what he earned and gave to it somebody who didn't need it.
FRANCIS: That's so true.
GUTFELD: The biggest revelation .
FRANCIS: The distribution.
GUTFELD: Yeah. The biggest revelation of the whole thing is you had a hard line progressive in Bernie Sanders say the country is a mess after seven years of hard line progressivism. So Sanders isn't arguing for Sanders. He is a witness for the Republican prosecution. You're seeing the right and the left joining hands like super friends against leftism. And the biggest problem with this debate and the reason we did the debate in the B block is it's boring. It was B for boring and it goes back to that wall, what's boring kills you. Socialism is incredibly boring because it's repetitively deadly everywhere it goes. It kills people. And they always have this answer, "Well, we haven't perfected it yet." Socialism can only work when it's perfected. The great thing about capitalism, it doesn't have to be perfect to work.
FRANCIS: There you go.
WILLIAMS: I'm just going to say isn't the case though that Bernie Sanders' complaint is from the progressive point of view.
GUTFELD: Yeah.
WILLIAMS: So you say progressives and conservatives are joining hands here.
GUTFELD: Saying it's been seven years of misery.
WILLIAMS: Right. But he is saying, Obama was not liberal enough, Greg.
GUTFELD: Well, I choose to ignore that. By the way, Sanders talked about Henry Kissinger more than he talked about ISIS, Iran and Iraq combined.
WILLIAMS: I loved it. Henry Kissinger.
FRANCIS: All right. Meanwhile, she did have to say that she wasn't -- admits that women didn't vote for her in this case and kind of go out and try and defend what was wrong with that. I mean, Kimberly, that was a tough one.
GUILFOYLE: Yes. Obviously, she's got big problems. I mean, they're going to have to steal the nomination. I mean, they have to problem doing that, right? They feel comfortable doing that. But that's what is going to have to happen. I mean she is not popular right now. She is not doing well. Bernie is raising more money. I mean it's unbelievable to me. Like figure it out. Everyone thought this was a joke. Like, "Oh, Bernie Sanders." Guess what?
GUTFELD: I love it when she talks about the poor fate of the coal miners after how many years of destroying the coal industry she is now concerned about the poor coal miners.
GUILFOYLE: Just total hypocrisy. You'll see a lot more shape shift.
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BOLLING: You know, Bernie Sanders is right. It's -- the game is rigged, but the economy is not rigged. Politics is rigged. And he is finding out the hard way.
FRANCIS: There you go.
WILLIAMS: One more thing before we go, Melissa. I just wanted to say that, Kimberly, all of your hitting on Hillary I think the thing that told me the most today was priorities USA and liberal PAC, putting half a million dollars into ads for Hillary. Wow!
FRANCIS: Yeah. And they spent $4.5 million on outreach to get people to the polls. I mean this is money that they had locked up. They wouldn't spend until general election.
GUILFOYLE: Because they haven't .
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FRANCIS: . that she already has set up and locked up.
GUILFOYLE: Follow the money, Bolling, right?
BOLLING: Yes.
FRANCIS: There you go. All right. Big news broke yesterday that Hillary Clinton's foundation was subpoenaed by the state department. So why wasn't that brought up at last night's debate? The new investigation rocking her candidacy, that's next.
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WILLIAMS: Hillary Clinton's campaign has been dealt another blow. The FBI is already investigating her e-mails. And now, we've learned the state department has issued a subpoena for her family foundation. That subpoena was issued last fall. It is seeking documents on any projects that might have required approval from the government while Secretary Clinton was at the State Department. Her camp chocks it up to another fishing expedition. But Bret Baron and his panel stunned that neither investigation came up at last night's debate.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bernie Sanders, for the love of God, how do you go to that debate and not mention the e-mails, not mention that the State Department IG went after the Clinton Foundation.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We should point out there wasn't a question.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But you know what? If I'm running for president, you don't to have ask me that question. I'll bring it up myself.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But if I'm moderating, you have to ask .
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You would ask it again and again and again as you should. It's a very pertinent question.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The e-mails, the foundation, surprising that it didn't come up tonight.
AB STODDARD, THE HILL COLUMNIST: It's stunning that it didn't come up tonight. She had a great night. She performed well and she got the complete pass on a terrible day.
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GUILFOYLE: Prayed for his life.
WILLIAMS: Melissa, one of the interesting aspects of this subpoena from the State Department to the Foundation is the focus on Huma Abedin, who was working both at the State Department and the Foundation at the same time.
FRANCIS: You know, the Foundation is basically their little slush fund for expenses. You know, they funnel everybody that's got to get through there. To me, this has always been the biggest piece, so much bigger than the email. I mean, it's clear.
A country desperately needs something. So they give the Foundation money, or they pay Bill Clinton to give a speech. And a week later, what they desperately needed done by the secretary of state is done. And it happened again and again.
I mean, if Saudi Arabia, one of the donors that gave between $10 and $25 million, wanted clean water in Africa, they could just do it. They don't need to pay the Clinton Foundation to do it. But they're getting access and favors and everything else. And this is -- it's just, it's so blatant, and it's so clear.
WILLIAMS: Yes, well, you know, I happen to think this is more dangerous to the Clintons and to Mrs. Clinton than the e-mail scandal. I know I'm not...
GUILFOYLE: Well, you've been saying that.
PERINO: I agree with Juan.
WILLIAMS: It looks to me like a quid pro quo. But let me just say, in all fairness to the Clinton people, they say that this is not -- it is not about the Foundation. It's about something else. So I don't know if it's Huma Abedin or what. But they say...
BOLLING: You mean the subpoena?
WILLIAMS: Yes. Were not directed at the Foundation itself.
FRANCIS: And they're very trustworthy. So that makes sense. They certainly haven't lied or misled anyone about whether or not the FBI was investigating or whether they received any subpoenas. I mean, she hasn't lied about that, so they're probably telling the truth about this, too. Not.
WILLIAMS: But Eric, you know what? You've got several congressional committees. Now you've got multiple investigations. What do you think?
BOLLING: I think if they really wanted to find the quid pro quo, pay to play, they'll find it. It's blatant. I mean, there are so many -- there are so many deals that foreign governments got with the United States companies that had to be improved by the State Department that happened after a Bill Clinton speech or after the donation came into the Clinton Foundation. It's easy.
What's the "Clinton Cash." Right? That's the book?
FRANCIS: Yes.
BOLLING: Can I just talk a little bit about why this didn't come up last night?
FRANCIS: Of course.
BOLLING: The moderators, Gwen Ifill. Remember Gwen Ifill? Remember the controversy surrounding her in 2008 when she moderated the V.P. debate between Sarah Palin and Joe Biden, and she was writing a pro-Obama book about race in America during that.
And the other moderator is Judy Woodruff, who donated to the Clinton Foundation. I mean, do you see that these books are cooked in favor of Hillary Clinton on the left at PBS and God forbid, there's a presidential debate or V.P. debate moderated by PBS again, and they have those two there, you know which way it's going to go.
WILLIAMS: Well, Kimberly.
GUILFOYLE: The answer to that question is yes.
WILLIAMS: Oh, no, no. I happen to agree with you.
GUILFOYLE: Yes.
WILLIAMS: But I was going to say to you. So I argue with Democrats. I say, you know what? You should let FOX do a debate. Right? Because if Kimberly Guilfoyle is moderating the debate and there stands Hillary Clinton, I've got to believe you begin with the Foundation of the e-mail scandal.
GUILFOYLE: Any responsible journalist should ask that question first. And any candidate that actually wants to win should be attacking her on that and hitting her hard. Thank God he is not the sheriff, because there wouldn't be a bad guy in jail. Because this guy will not get after it. He's not interested in pointing out what's going on here whatsoever. It's kind of -- it's unbelievable to me.
WILLIAMS: She says 100 percent no -- remember, she...
GUILFOYLE: Why do they have 150 FBI agents assigned to this investigation. And it's not getting smaller. It's expanding, and it's pay to play which you know you have a big problem with, with influence peddling with the Clinton Foundation. And guess what? Huma Abedin, she's going to be in trouble, too. I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't get indicted.
WILLIAMS: So Greg, would you allow Hillary Clinton into your home to fix your heater? Would you trust her?
GUTFELD: I think this debate should have been moderated by PBR, not PBS.
Do you know what they considered criminal during the debate? Cops, Wall Street and fetuses. That's all they cared about.
And has somebody defrosted Joe Biden yet? Because I have a feeling they better get him in there.
GUILFOYLE: Show time.
GUTFELD: The fact is, the real conflict of interest in all of this is when the media covers a liberal. That's the conflict of interest. Because this is a big story. We're talking about it, so it has the -- it has the FOX News -- FOX News, you know, feel around it. So the other networks don't cover it. But when -- it's only not news when it happens to a Democrat.
WILLIAMS: Well, you know, to be fair, I think FOX moderators have gone after Republicans pretty good.
BOLLING: Oh, yes.
WILLIAMS: Don't move. "Facebook Friday" is up next.
GUTFELD: yay.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GUTFELD: Back by popular demand -- that's three people -- yes, it's "Facebook Friday." The first question is from Robert. I'm going to go to you first, Juan, for no apparent reason. If you had a theme song, Juan, what would it be?
WILLIAMS: A theme song? Let's see. "Family Affair," Sly and the Family Stone, something like that. How about "Brown Sugar"?
GUTFELD: There you go.
WILLIAMS: Or how about, let's see...
GUILFOYLE: How about "Lies, Lies, Lies"?
WILLIAMS: Oh, Anita -- Anita Baker. Giving you -- "Giving You the Best that I Got."
GUTFELD: That's very good. Eric.
GUILFOYLE: Because you like romantic music.
WILLIAMS: I love love songs.
BOLLING: You know what I like? I actually bumped out of the A-block. Everything Flo Rida does is happy, upbeat. "Good Vibrations," "Whistle."
GUILFOYLE: Is this a joke right now?
BOLLING: No, I'm being serious.
GUILFOYLE: You're so full of it. You're making this up.
BOLLING: Upbeat?
GUILFOYLE: That's not your theme song.
PERINO: What is it?
GUILFOYLE: Sunday, Saturday.
WILLIAMS: Whoa!
GUTFELD: How about you?
GUILFOYLE: Take a truth serum, people. Obvi, mine is "Legs, legs, legs." Yes. Anyone sing it to me?
BOLLING: Z.Z. Top, "She Has Legs." That one?
GUILFOYLE: Yes.
BOLLING: You didn't sing it very well.
GUTFELD: That's how an alien perceives music. I believe the song goes legs, legs, legs. Am I right?
GUILFOYLE: That's what guys do when they sing it. OK? Like walking by, whatever. Come on.
(CROSSTALK)
FRANCIS: I'm going with Britney Spears, hanging out with you guys.
GUTFELD: I was going to say "Itsy Bitsy Spider." But then I thought, you know what? "A New Kind of Kick" by The Cramps. You ever looked at it, it's about continually trying to final something interesting to put in your body.
GUILFOYLE: Eww!
Yours should be Bieber. Because you...
GUTFELD: I'm talking about juice.
BOLLING: A favorite song. Your theme song. Like your theme song.
GUTFELD: All right. So Lisa asks, "What makes the best weekend for all of you after a long week of craziness?" Melissa.
FRANCIS: Alcohol? No, no.
GUTFELD: The first thing you say is the most -- is the truth.
FRANCIS: My children, my children.
GUTFELD: Booze came before kids.
FRANCIS: No, no!
GUTFELD: You're like a "Law & Order" episode. You're a "Law & Order" episode. "SVU." They're going to take your kids away.
FRANCIS: Somebody else, somebody else. Go to somebody else, quick.
GUILFOYLE: Second choice. Bahamas?
BOLLING: You know what I love to do? I love to run. If I can just run a couple of times a day on a Saturday and Sunday.
FRANCIS: I'm not buying any of his answers.
GUILFOYLE: No. He does. He wears man tights. He's on "FOX & Friends" in them, running around the hotel.
GUTFELD: Juan.
WILLIAMS: You know what I think? I like sleeping late. But you know, as you get older, it's hard to sleep late.
GUTFELD: It is very hard. It's unfair.
GUTFELD: Do you know why? Because you know you have less time on the earth. So when you sleep -- if you get up earlier, you literally add a few hours a day to your life. If you split your day into two parts, which I do, then you live twice as long. I get up in the middle of the night, do some stuff. It's like having -- I have 14 days a week.
GUILFOYLE: You start sending weird e-mails.
GUTFELD: Yes.
GUILFOYLE: It's, like, so creepy.
GUTFELD: Remember that? Well, anyway.
GUILFOYLE: Yes.
FRANCIS: He really does that?
GUILFOYLE: He was stalking me in New Hampshire. It was like, "Are you alive? Are you awake?"
GUTFELD: Well, I was wondering that maybe something had happened?
WILLIAMS: Well, wait a second. You're sending e-mails in the middle of the night by Donald Trump?
GUTFELD: Maybe, perhaps.
WILLIAMS: You were.
GUTFELD: I could be.
WILLIAMS: Oh.
GUILFOYLE: What?
GUTFELD: What is your best -- what's your best weekend?
GUILFOYLE: Giving away the house secrets. So OK, so I would say, definitely, definitely involves controlled water. Yes. Fireplaces are good.
GUTFELD: All right. Oh, I see. I was thinking of some kind of medical procedure. You're talking about a hot tub.
GUILFOYLE: Oh!
GUTFELD: Do you know what I do, and I'm surprised. Nobody else does it. I do a lot of charity work with orphans. I spend -- when I'm done with my Saturday show.
BOLLING: And the elderly.
GUTFELD: And the elderly. I love the elderly. Can't get enough of them. They're great people.
FRANCIS: He's scaring me.
GUTFELD: You should be scared.
All right. David. This is for David: "Would any of 'The Five' like to debate any of the candidates? And which one?" Eric.
BOLLING: Either one of the Democrats.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, love.
BOLLING: Hillary, I would love to ask about the Clinton Foundation, because I know too much. And then Bernie Sanders, you would be great with this with the socialism stuff. And then we'd take him down and expose him.
GUTFELD: Yes. It would be fun.
FRANCIS: I would like Bernie Sanders. Because I'd like to just do math with him. Let's just go over some of these numbers. Let's really -- let's just drill down a teeny bit on how we're going to pay for any of this.
I mean, how much trading does he think goes on that you could possibly -- like $15 trillion? How much training is happening? Plus, P.S., you would kill the trading if you taxed it. So I mean, I don't know. I think he's just never met a math book.
GUTFELD: Democrats do numbers the way Republicans do feelings. It's our weak spot.
BOLLING: Poorly.
GUTFELD: Poorly. Excuse me.
GUILFOYLE: Hillary Clinton, for sure.
GUTFELD: Yes.
GUILFOYLE: I would put the hurt on her.
GUTFELD: Yes. Who pushed the video?
GUILFOYLE: Amongst others.
GUTFELD: Ask Cruz, who pulled that video?
WILLIAMS: Yes, exactly.
GUTFELD: Juan, who do you want it to be?
WILLIAMS: Well, I think the most fun would be Trump. Right?
GUTFELD: Yes.
WILLIAMS: Because you've got to go at it. I mean, it would be alls out. You know, all out. Whatever out.
BOLLING: Alls out.
GUILFOYLE: Alls out.
GUTFELD: I think you invented something.
FRANCIS: Balls to the wall. Right. Deja vu.
WILLIAMS: No swearing, no bad words, buddy.
GUTFELD: That's great. Alls out.
WILLIAMS: Alls out.
GUILFOYLE: Anyway!
GUTFELD: I would say -- I would say Trump just because it would be fun. I definitely have concerns, and I want -- I want to talk to him about it.
WILLIAMS: Yes.
GUILFOYLE: We'd get you a little step stool.
WILLIAMS: By the way, your song should be "Purple Haze."
GUTFELD: That's true. I'm continually in one. Do we have time for one left? That's it.
All right. Valentine's Day is on Sunday. If you could use some help in the romance department, stay tuned. Because I'm giving away free love advice. No, Kimberly is. I have no love advice.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GUILFOYLE: Attention, all you men out there, because it's time now for -- oh, yes. Kimberly's Valentine's Day Advice. Don't you love it?
All right. Well, if you've got a sweetheart, one or two or three, or are hoping to make someone your sweetheart on Sunday, don't blow it. Listen up, because I've got some tips for you.
All right. So there's a number of things that I think you can do to help yourself. The No. 1 tip that I'll give you is feed your woman. See this? Chocolate. Mocha chocolate. Right?
GUTFELD: I've never heard this tip, Kimberly.
GUILFOYLE: There are some people out there that are a little slow.
GUTFELD: Breaking new ground.
GUILFOYLE: Feed some chocolate to her. She will love that.
Also, if you've been, you know, taking her to the drive-through, step up your game. I think it's very important to, in fact, take her for a nice meal. I would also start out with a glass of champagne and then proceed to a nice bottle of wine.
GUTFELD: Like an Applebee's or a Friday's, maybe?
GUILFOYLE: That might be an improvement. It depends on...
GUTFELD: For me.
GUILFOYLE: ... where you've been going before that.
And I even got these for you guys, too, which is so sweet. All right? And then also I think what you can do is maybe do a little home or you could write a little card to your loved one. What I really don't like is when you receive a gift, and the man has not given you a card to put some sentiment and thought into it.
GUTFELD: These are from Walgreen's?
WILLIAMS: You know, my wife loves cards. But I always think, like you know, a Hallmark card, I didn't write that.
GUILFOYLE: Card?
WILLIAMS: She loves Hallmark cards.
GUILFOYLE: You can also buy flowers. You can get them at the local deli for, like, $15.
GUTFELD: You know who write them? Inmates.
GUILFOYLE: Excuse me. My tips.
And if you have a house with a backyard, you can get her a little love tree. And you plant a little tree back there. It's very nice and environmental.
GUTFELD: A love tree?
WILLIAMS: Never heard of that.
GUILFOYLE: A love shrub. Whatever's in your budget.
GUTFELD: I sent away for one of those.
GUILFOYLE: And then, also, if it falls on a weekend like this, take advantage of it. Take her away for the weekend.
BOLLING: A love shrub.
GUILFOYLE; Maybe somebody -- a shrub is about $20.
BOLLING: Love shrub.
GUILFOYLE: Take her away for the weekend.
But if you're not that into the guy, do not accept a Valentine's Day date, especially if you think someone might be proposing to you. It is highly problematic.
GUTFELD: Should people propose on Valentine's Day, Kimberly?
GUILFOYLE: If you've been dating them for over a year and they know you want to marry them, then that's fine. You should probably do it and get to stepping.
FRANCIS: How much chocolate do you have in there right now?
GUILFOYLE: In my mouth?
FRANCIS: Yes. Three or four or five pieces?
GUILFOYLE: One piece. It's actually really delicious. I may take these presents back.
FRANCIS: Wow.
GUILFOYLE: What do you guys suggest? What do you do? You're very romantic.
WILLIAMS: Well, thank you. I love...
GUILFOYLE: I recommend for you...
WILLIAMS: What?
GUILFOYLE: Under, on Pandora, the Lionel Richie station.
WILLIAMS: Yes, I like Lionel Richie. I love it. I like Barry White.
GUILFOYLE: It's beautiful. If you play that, it's gorgeous music. Go ahead.
GUTFELD: Barry White.
WILLIAMS: I was -- you know what was interesting?
GUILFOYLE: You probably buy jewelry.
WILLIAMS: I was looking at the numbers, right? Yes, my wife does like jewelry. I was looking at the numbers, and I was surprised that there are very few people who give flowers. They say they give, but they don't really spend on flowers. They spend on dinners. And so here, look at this.
GUTFELD: You shouldn't have.
WILLIAMS: Yes, I want to give you flowers.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my gosh! Thank you!
WILLIAMS: You know what? This is for you!
GUILFOYLE: I love this. It's like my real life.
FRANCIS: This is from Eric for you.
GUTFELD: Oh, Eric. We were going to keep this on the down low.
WILLIAMS: Oh, my gosh.
GUILFOYLE: Women love flowers. Everybody loves flowers. They also like watches. We also like cars. Cars.
BOLLING: It was the four-hour drive back from New Hampshire with Greg. I was shirtless and he was bottomless.
Can I just -- can I do one thing?
Valentine's is also for people who are married, as well. So do me a favor, Adrienne, just turn, go out of the room for three seconds. Going to tell what I'm going to do.
What I did -- three, two, one, OK -- so what I did was I took her engagement ring, and I had it reset. I told her I was getting it cleaned. I had it reset. And we're going to have a nice dinner over here.
GUILFOYLE: Wow! Very nice.
GUTFELD: I'm not doing anything. You know why? Because I married a Russian woman, and they don't have Valentine's Day. So she doesn't know about it.
FRANCIS: So you're ignoring her?
WILLIAMS: Is that true? I thought it was worldwide.
BOLLING: If she finds out, she might kill you.
GUTFELD: That's true.
GUILFOYLE: Put me on camera, and I'll tease. I'll pull you out of here. "One More Thing" is up next.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
BOLLING: All right. Time for "One More Thing." I'll go very quickly. Bret asked the question we all want to know of Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Watch.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BRET BAIER, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: You've had six debates so far. I think you have four more on the books. How about letting the FOX News debate team handle one of those?
REP. DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ, DNC CHAIR: You know, we've got a lot on our plate. And I'm really happy to be here with you on your network. There aren't a whole lot of Democrats who come on. And I always look forward to our conversations, Bret, and look forward to sparring with you and some of your hosts all the way through the campaign.
BAIER: So you're saying there's a chance.
SCHULTZ: I'm saying that I'm here, ready to talk to you about the issues. And we'll do so all the way through the election cycle.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BOLLING: And that was Bret's reference to the movie "Dumb and Dumber," if I'm not mistaken.
Greg, you're up.
GUTFELD: All right. Tomorrow on my show I've got -- excuse me -- Milo Yiannopoulos, who's kind of a legendary British gadfly. He spoke at Rutgers two nights ago about speech limit -- speech laws and intolerance on campus. This is what happened.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MILO YIANNOPOULOS, ENTREPRENEUR/JOURNALIST: Engaging in the humble pursuit of knowledge.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This class represents hatred!
(SHOUTING)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUTFELD: So you hear "Black Lives Matter" and you hear, "Trump, Trump, Trump" going back and forth. It's like a microcosm of society. We're going to have him on to talk about what happened there. I've also got Steven Bauer, who was Manny from "Scarface" and also the star of "Ray Donovan." So check it out tomorrow.
GUILFOYLE: At 10.
BOLLING: Juanito, you're up.
WILLIAMS: All right. So ten years ago the band OK Go created this famous treadmill video for the song "Here it Goes Again." Fifty million views.
Now the band has gone to Russia, and they filmed the latest video for a new song, "Upside Down, Inside Out." They did it in a zero-gravity airplane. Already, 27 million views.
And you know what? You can do it, too. That's right. Tourists are going for zero gravity flights. It costs you about 5,000 or $6,000. But let me tell you, you better take a barf bag.
BOLLING: I've got to get Kimberly in here. By the way, Psi has, like, over a billion views. Go ahead.
GUILFOYLE: OK. So also I did a story before about these very sweet World War II, this veteran that reunited with his long-lost love after 70 years. We talked about it, and here it is, actually on camera. This is Norwood Thomas, 93 years of age, with Joyce Durant Morris, 88 years of age. And this was his long lost first love. I think it's so charming and adorable. It's very nice to focus on this love on a nice Valentine's.
And buy your woman lingerie. The producers didn't want me to talk about that, but it's nice. Thoughtful.
BOLLING: That was very sweet.
Melissa, you're up.
FRANCIS: All right. I have to share this video. So I came home from work later one day last week. I walk in. My babysitter, my kids are there. They go, "Mom, Mom, Mom, come see this." Watch.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, no, no. No, no, no.
(BABY LAUGHING)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, no, no, no.
(BABY LAUGHING)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
FRANCIS: This is my 6-month-old baby daughter, Jemma, cracking up. She can't talk. She barely cries, and she's just cracking up like crazy at my son. It was very funny. And we've now watched it about 500,000 times on our phone. Although she would be great audience for you, Greg. Because he's not actually being funny -- sorry, son -- and she's laughing like crazy. So that's great.
GUTFELD: How nice of you. Yes. This will be the last time you're on the show.
(CROSSTALK)
GUTFELD: Nice knowing you.
BOLLING: Have a great week, every one. "Special Report" is up next.
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