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Are outsider candidates the Tea Party's cup of tea?

'2016: The Outsiders' - Are non-politicians' success in the presidential race based on Tea Party support or something more?


This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," September 7, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: "On the Record's" look at the 2016 political outsiders continues. And beginning in 2009, now that's when the Tea Party tapped into voters who are fed up with Washington as usual, and the direction our country was headed. And now we are in the 2016 race for the nomination in the White House. 

What do Donald Trump, Carly Fiorina and Dr. Ben Carson have to do to get the backing of the Tea Party in 2016, 2012 GOP Candidate and Tea Party Activist Herman Cain goes "On the Record." Nice to see you, sir.


VAN SUSTEREN: Ok, so tell me, are the people who are supporting the outsider candidates now which would be Carson, Fiorina, and Trump. Are they the Tea Party or are they more than the Tea Party? Who are these people that support the outsiders?

CAIN: I think they are the Tea Party and more. You often hear about the old political model talking about 400 percent of the voters are going to vote Democrat no matter what, 40 percent of them will vote Republican no matter what, and then you've got those that are 20 percent who are in the middle -- independents or whatever you want to call them. But here is an element that I believe that these outsiders are attracting people who have never voted before. I have received many calls from listeners who have said that they never voted before because they were turned off and felt disenfranchised. So I happen to believe that these three outsiders as you are calling them, they are attracting from both parties. They are attracting from the middle. And they are attracting people that have never voted before.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you find the way they deliver their campaign information different? I mean, when I listen to them, the more professional or politicians are more careful in their speech where it seems like, you know, the non-politicians are a little bit blunt or plainer speaking and, of course, no one is plainer speaking of what's on his mind than Donald Trump.

CAIN: Right. They are able to talk nonpolitical speech. That's what sets them apart. Also, the three that you have identified in your special -- which by the way that you've done a great job. They are talking solutions. They are getting to the heart of the matter. And that's what's connecting with a whole lot of people across the spectrum. And one other thing, Greta, the people that are attracted to these three candidates that you have been highlighting tonight, they don't care about labels, they don't care about who said, she said, he said, when they said it. They care about someone that sounds as if number one that they are passionate about leading. They are passionate about fixing some stuff in Washington, D.C.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, Carly Fiorina, business woman, Donald Trump businessman. You are a businessman as well. In business you can fire people when you don't like them or they're not doing a good job, going to Washington a little bit different. So is there some worry that there is this blunt talk is going to be very difficult to deliver if get elected?

CAIN: I don't think so and here is why. Because, if I had had gotten there, my plan was going to be always engage the support of the American people as you are trying to negotiate with Congress to get done what needs to be done. Carly Fiorina said it best. One thing that politicians and people in office respond to is pressure. So I happen to think that the President can build that pressure on any given issue that's right that's connecting with the American people and the American people can put pressure on those who are responsible passing the laws. That's how a non- politician can build that consensus and get things done.

VAN SUSTEREN: Mr. Herman Cain, thank you very much. I hope you come back, sir because it's going to be a long campaign. I tell all my guests we a lot of talking to do.

CAIN: I will be right here. Thanks, Greta.

VAN SUSTEREN: Thank you, sir.