THE FIVE

Disney dress code debate

Did the Magic Kingdom discriminate against a Muslim employee?

 

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," August 14, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: When most people think of Disneyland, they think of Mickey Mouse and Goofy. But a woman who used to work there isn't happy with the Magic Kingdom. Imane Boudlal has filed a discrimination lawsuit against the company because she wasn't allowed to wear a religious head scarf to work.

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IMANE BOUDLAL: I don't know why it's hard for me to work here and get accepted as a woman, as Muslim woman or an American, even an American Muslim who just decided to wear her head scarf and have a simple life.

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GUILFOYLE: Does she have a point?

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: I see she is obviously upset and I see her point. ACLU came out to defend her. But I don't know why they don't come and defend Disney for the right to have a policy that set standards and uniform code.

And they also told her if she wanted to work in a place she didn't have to work in the uniform they'd find her something like that. So, I think this -- if I were the ACLU, I would defend American corporation the right to set a policy.

GUILFOYLE: But they don't do that, Eric.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Well, the ACLU, they're obviously going to go in defense of the woman. Look, Disney did try to make amends. They found a job for her.

They even call themselves cast members, people who are in front of the public. They're out in the parks and whatnot. They're called cast members. So they wear costumes.

GUILFOYLE: Which is an important distinction.

BOLLING: Absolutely. So, for them to have a problem with Disney. Now maybe there is a case to be made for someone not in front of the public, but I don't think Disney made that distinction for anyone not in front of the public, right?

GUILFOYLE: Andrea?

ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: Look, I totally agree. I see why this woman is upset. If you are Jewish and wearing a yarmulke, probably the same rules apply. Just because of the strict rules that Disney has, they are forcefully protective of the Magic Kingdom and their brand.

So, this isn't about discrimination. And I think they have gone out of their way to find work for the woman. But if she doesn't like it, I'm sure she's very hardworking, she can find work somewhere else that is more embracing of her religion.

GUILFOYLE: Right. I mean , it's one place that celebrates that diversity and -- it's Disney land. Hello. The first ride everybody loves to go on. It's a small world. There is a good spot for her. Why not?

TANTAROS: After all.

GUILFOYLE: Thank you. I don't know.

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GUILFOYLE: That was a Disney moment here for sure.

But I mean she's got a point, but the problem is, Disney, to preserve their image and their corporation, they'll probably settle it. They will do something, because they don't want an investigation, by the way, Andrea, from the Department of Justice. Eric Holder coming down crushing the ears off of Mickey's head.

TANTAROS: Right, exactly. Our country decided a long time ago we were going to fight the civil war. We believe in human rights. We believe in certain rights for individuals.

But let's not clog our courts with all of the crazy lawsuits, back and forth, back and forth. Disney is going to make an effort. I think they already have.

PERINO: They also -- Disney, I read, they also have a policy against like you can't have face piercings or lots of tattoos? They are strict about it. That's their right.

BOLLING: It is their right. It is their business. No government funding, not a public school. I mean, listen, they have a right to have a dress code. Grooming code.

GUILFOYLE: OK, let's talk about another story getting a lot of attention --

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: Can I make a point?

GUILFOYLE: You sure can.

BECKEL: I was thrown out of Disneyland for being drunk.

PERINO: You were?

BECKEL: Yes.

PERINO: Disneyworld or Land?

BECKEL: Land. I don't blame them. They had a right to throw me out, particularly after I knocked Goofy over.

TANTAROS: Something tells me there is a long list of not just amusement parks but other places.

GUILFOYLE: The happiest place in the world.

BECKEL: You got to try it with 200,000 kids and cotton candy.

GUILFOYLE: OK, Bob. Not all the moms at Disney weigh 400 pounds. And nevertheless, it's a place for everyone. It's inclusive.

OK, Disney. We'll be getting passes today I'm sure or not.

All right. There is an atheist billboard, they called Jesus -- I hate to even say this -- but it's the story -- a useless savior. (INAUDIBLE) sadistic god, talking about Mormon bigotry. Take a look at this here.

This is an atheist group using this. Democratic National Convention to take aim at presidential candidates' religion. They are targeting Mormonism, they are targeting Christianity in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Bob, I'll go back to you on this.

BECKEL: I just -- you know, I guess they have the right to run these billboards. I find that probably more offensive than anything we've talked about today, except what I said. But you know, it seems to me that people get, you know, they take these events like this and people who are believers have to look at this every day. It's not easy to do.

If it were up to me, and maybe I will. I will probably be down there, take a saw --

GUILFOYLE: All right. Let's go around the table.

BOLLING: Very quickly, taking a shot at Christianity, taking a shot at around 80 percent of the population. Probably not a great thing to do, especially trying to get votes in North Carolina.

PERINO: All I can think of is do these people have nothing better to do or anything better to spend their money on than a billboard like this?

GUILFOYLE: They want attention.

PERINO: I guess so.

TANTAROS: They complaint that people aren't tolerant of them. They are being rude to another religion.

And to your point, Eric, like it's not a great way to get votes in North Carolina. It's also not a great way to get people to join your group. Guess what we believe in? Nothing!

What a great crowd motivator.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, not a resume builder.

To be fair, the president of American atheists sponsoring the ads said the political system is rife on religion, spends too much on religion and not enough on substance. That is the nicest thing I could put forward they had to say.

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