THE FIVE

Is rudeness the new normal?

Survey: Americans feel incivility on the rise

 

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," June 13, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: According to a new survey, most Americans say incivility is on the rise. Most blame it on politicians, government officials, media, celebs, the Internet, sports figures, cell phones and Twitter, who in response all blame Beckel, and they're right.

"Occupy Wall Street" ranked less offensive than the media which is odd since it was almost impossible to tell them apart. For awhile they shared the same tents and ideas. But the way I see it, civil culture is always on the receiving end of pop culture. It's the actors, the rappers, the artists who get there first and soil the path by masquerading trash as edginess.

Take the most lauded hip-hop artist today, Killer Mike, whose lyrics include I'll leave you with four words, "I'm glad Reagan dead." That's uncivil, but the left-wing website Gawker called it tremendous. They describe him as risky and exciting.

Risky? Maybe for a white liberal music critic trying to grow a goatee on his pathetic bald head.

Fact is, risk isn't wishing Reagan dead. That's exactly what lame pop culture critics like Gawker die for. They never met a shocking artist they didn't embrace because their own insecurities feed the need to be cool.

The real obscenity are the tools that mistake incivility for real thought. And the real rebels are those who embrace civility when everyone else has given up.

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: You know, that dude ought to be the poster child for Mike Bloomberg's fat --

GUTFELD: Really?

BECKEL: That fat black dude who was just on -- what is his name again?

GUTFELD: Killer Mike.

BECKEL: I've never heard of him. Killer Mike, go on a diet.

GUTFELD: You are an aficionado of hip-hop, aren't you?

BECKEL: Yes. Maybe the worst genre of music there ever was.

GUTFELD: OK. So, how do you feel about the civility survey, Bob? You're kind of an expert on this.

BECKEL: Is there a suggestion in that?

GUTFELD: Well, I think actually you're polite.

BECKEL: Thank you.

GUTFELD: On TV you are not. But outside of television.

BECKEL: I think all the things you said in the monologue were right. I think these things feed on one another and I think it is polarizing politics. Everybody has a little bit to blame here, I think, except for when you go to places that are reasonable decent Middle Americans. I've been to Indiana before, and Oklahoma, places I make fun of, the most decent people I run across and you wouldn't say those kinds of things.

But it seems to me that the media centers in the country is where most of this stuff happens.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Those people you make fun of all the time.

(LAUGHTER)

BECKEL: I do. I'm making a little bit of amends. Nice people.

BOLLING: Did you notice the survey had Internet kind of low on the list. How many Internet tough guys have you met?

GUTFELD: Never.

BOLLING: Uncivil, they're tough guys, and then when you kind of call them out on it they kind of cower back.

GUTFELD: The Internet has created more of this because it's unanimous and you can get away with it.

ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: I'm not buying this poll because they had the Internet at 38 percent. And they have government officials at over 50 percent.

Who is the most popular government official? Obama. He is a lot of things but he's not rude. The media, which is on the Internet, Greg, you pointed out Gawker, people can hide behind their pseudonyms. Internet has created a group of really nasty people. It's easier to be nastier online than nastier to someone's face unless you're Bob Beckel and you can be rude to your friends.

GUTFELD: You know what's interesting. There was a new study that shows that people who actually wake up earlier may be less rude because they feel happier and more satisfied with life overall, which makes no sense to me, because you get up early and you are rotten to the core.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: I get that a lot. I have always gotten up early.

GUTFELD: You actually get up before you go to bed.

PERINO: I walk on the sunny side of the street.

GUTFELD: You do.

PERINO: I do, when I wake up in the morning I am happy, but by boy, by 10 p.m. I'm a wreck.

BECKEL: That's because she goes to that dipping dog yoga class. What is it?

PERINO: Dipping dog?

BECKEL: Don't you go to yoga class?

PERINO: Downward dog.

BECKEL: Downward dog. Sorry.

TANTAROS: Bob's version is totally different.

BECKEL: I tried that move before. It's very dangerous.

GUTFELD: Go ahead.

BECKEL: Do you really think -- because there were many days when I never had either an evening or morning person. I was up all night and through the next day. But I don't see a difference, frankly.

Does anybody really believe that?

GUTFELD: I think as you get older you tend get up earlier because you know your days are numbered.

PERINO: They probably took the survey in the morning. Have you worked with somebody who is not a morning person? This is a good example --

TANTAROS: You mean Greg?

PERINO: I send you about five, 10 e-mails before you even wake up. I'm trying to keep you informed. I'm like, "Oh, isn't this funny?" You don't pay attention to me at all, until like 10:30. Then you are in a bad mood.

BOLLING: You're so civil on the morning calls. Unbelievable.

BECKEL: Yes, "When is this thing going to be over so I can go to the gym?" Let me tell this to his relatives who are in here, "I got my relatives around here, I can't be on this phone call."

TANTAROS: It's true. Night owl, morning person, morning person, night owl.

GUTFELD: No, but waking up in the morning, and looking at your BlackBerry and there's 13 e-mails from Dana with "OMG" as the subject header for each one. Who writes "OMG" at 6:00 in the morning?

BECKEL: Sometimes they start at 4:30 in the morning.

GUTFELD: That's true.

PERINO: But they're always informative!

BECKEL: They are. When I go to bed at 4:30 I get your first one.

PERINO: I want to make sure everyone has the proper information.

BECKEL: And I just can't' wait to get that dipping dog thing.

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