This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 6, 2006, that has been edited for clarity.
SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Today is June 6, 2006, 6-06-06. So what better day could there be for our next guest to launch her brand new book as of today? Joining us now, the author of "Godless: The Church of Liberalism," Ann Coulter.
How are you?
ANN COULTER, CONSERVATIVE AUTHOR: Fine, thank you. How are you?
HANNITY: All right, [this is] your first cable interview [for your new book]. I was watching you with what's-his-name on the "Today" show, Matt Lauer. A little tense there on the set.
COULTER: A little tense. It was a great interview. It's much better than being asked to describe the book. You know, that's always the hardest in the first week, because you don't have the chapters summarized yet. Arguing I can do.
HANNITY: We just had on — your book reminded me, Ann, of a topic we were just discussing. I see Mrs. Souers, who we just had on this program, and how can you not just want to cry for, a) what this woman has gone through...
HANNITY: ... and what this father is going through, and also what this girl went through.
HANNITY: And then we're just beginning to get the record of this guy.
COULTER: That's right.
HANNITY: You have an entire chapter in here and you talk about Willy Horton.
COULTER: Yes, and the general compulsion of liberals to free criminals. I mean, it is stunning how predictable it is. I was thinking the same thing sitting back in the Green Room.
This guy has been — I don't know the details. I don't know if you reported them, but on these sex crimes before — but I can assure it wasn't a conservative legislature, a conservative judge releasing these guys. It's the same thing over and over again.
I mean, one case I have is Arthur Shawcross, who was released by [Gov. Mario] Cuomo's parole board — this was many years ago — after he had sexually molested and murdered a little girl and a little boy. After 15 years in prison, he was released. He was secretly moved to a town where the police were not even notified he was going to be there. In the next few years, he murdered 11 women. I mean, it's predictable that this is going to happen again and again and again.
ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: You know, George Bush 41 pardoned drug dealers and drug traders, all presidents have pardoned. So, you know what? We can play a game of who is worse on criminals.
You say your Christianity fuels everything you do...
COULTER: Oh, yes. That's my Human Events [magazine] interview.
COLMES: ... everything you write, and that you're called upon to battle cruelty. You said that to Human Events. Would Jesus sanction a book that belittles and ridicules a large segment of the American population?
COLMES: Jesus would? Where would Jesus — can you point to the passage where Jesus would approve of that?
COULTER: Well, there's the famed "money changers'" passage, which is my favorite, probably a favorite of Sean's, as well. I mean, liberals always think of Christ as, you know, some pantywaist. No. We are called upon to do battle.
COLMES: Wait, wait, wait...
COULTER: And, by the way, this is not a book about Christianity. That was an interview I did.
COLMES: What liberal said Christ is a pantywaist? Can you name who that is?
COULTER: No, this naming names things — you're not getting me into.
COLMES: Because you talk in broad categories. I'd like to know who specifically.
COULTER: I do talk in broad categories. This is a book about liberalism.
COLMES: Who specifically?
HANNITY: And, by the way, he's got a chapter in his book, "Jesus is a Liberal."
COLMES: Right, Jesus is liberal, that's true. But thank you for promoting my book, Sean, I appreciate it.
You say, "Liberals can believe what they want to believe, but let us not flinch from identifying liberalism as the opposition party to God." Are there not liberals who died for their country, fought for their country, liberals who lost loved ones in 9/11, liberals who died in 9/11? When you make a statement like that, doesn't that demean the liberals who put themselves on the line everyday for America?
COULTER: No, there are many fine liberals. Some days I think you are one of them, Alan, some days.
COLMES: And who's the other in your book?
COULTER: But the point is, I mean, this naming names idea, or who's a liberal and who's godless, I mean, that is a way from preventing me, or anyone, from talking about liberalism.
COLMES: No, because you can't name one. You can't say who exemplifies the very things you're talking about.
COULTER: No, no, no, I'm talking about a philosophy, a doctrine, a belief system. -- Fortunately, there are lapsed liberals. But, I mean, you can talk about Christianity. Christianity means, you know, you can't lie. That doesn't mean Christians never lie.
COLMES: The point is you can't name somebody who exemplifies the very things you're talking about, who's godless, who has all these terrible qualities, because it's a myth.
HANNITY: I can.
You're talking in generalities and creating a myth about liberals.
COULTER: No, I'm not. I talking about the philosophy of liberalism, what it stands for, what the doctrines are, what the belief systems are. The way you can talk about Christianity and the doctrines and the belief systems. That doesn't mean that no Christian ever violates those beliefs, but it is...
HANNITY: We've got to take a break.
Now also, when we come back, we're going to be together tomorrow for a live appearance on Long Island.
COULTER: Yes, yes.
HANNITY: And anyone can come for free.
HANNITY: Even liberals.
COULTER: Even liberals.
HANNITY: And we're going to continue, by the way, to monitor that special election in California. We'll continue with Ann Coulter in just a moment. We'll ask her if she knows anything about this photograph. Can she guess who it is? Well, we'll have the answer when we get.
COLMES: Welcome back to "Hannity & Colmes". We now continue with the author of "Godless," Ann Coulter.
You're talking about godless liberals not having values, not being values people. In light of that you've been in the news a little bit lately, accused by election supervisor Arthur Anderson in Palm Beach of voting in the wrong district and not answering a registered letter that they sent to you. And they say that you might have committed a felony. So could you address those charges and tell us what happened?
COULTER: I think the syphilis has gone to their brains.
COLMES: Is that what it is?
COLMES: Did you knowingly vote in the wrong district?
COLMES: What happened?
COULTER: Do you need my Social Security number? Should we get my stalkers on the line with my address and apartment number?
COLMES: No. I'm not asking your address. I just want to know what happened.
COULTER: No. I live in New York. And I'm not going to tell you anymore about where I live, Alan. Oddly enough.
COLMES: I didn't ask you where you live. You're accused of voting in the wrong district so...
COULTER: Yes. That's not true. That's not true.
COLMES: You didn't knowingly walk into the wrong district?
COLMES: And did you — is there a reason you didn't respond to the authorities when they sent you a registered letter?
COULTER: This is all false, I'm telling you. You've got — I mean, the "Treason Times" may hate America, but they're at least accurate. When you go to the bush-league newspapers, you get all the venom of the New York Times, but they're all retarded.
COLMES: All right. Let's talk about what you said in your book about the 9/11 widows, when you mentioned briefly in that earlier ["Today Show"] interview today. You accuse them of using their husbands' deaths to speak out. Didn't George W. Bush use their husbands' deaths to grab executive power and start a war in Iraq, which was not a threat to 9/11?
COULTER: No, he has executive power. He's the president.
COLMES: He broadened it, some would say unconstitutionally.
COULTER: You can say whatever you want. He's the president. He is in charge of running foreign policy under the Constitution of the United States.
COLMES: You've actually attacked women, bereaved women, and you call them "sobbing hysterical women."
COULTER: I don't attack them for being widows. I attack — I simply not believe that having your husband die entitles your left-wing views to sanctification.
COLMES: They're not all left wing. In fact many of them are Republicans and voted for Bush.
COULTER: It is the most vulgar thing. Yes, until then.
COLMES: Yes, that's right.
COULTER: We always hear about Damascus Road conversion. I'm sure they were.
No, this is, I think, a serious point. The liberal — and it's a chapter in my book on liberal infallibility. I think it's one of the most vulgar things liberals have done to discourse in America.
COLMES: These women are not liberals. They're women who spoke out.
COULTER: This "personal authenticity" to have a position on something. What, can I not talk to you about, you know, discrimination against Jews? Can you not talk to me about women in America?
COLMES: No one's stopping you. No one's stopping you. This is the broad platform we have.
COULTER: Do I have to kill my mother so I can be a victim, too?
COLMES: But Ann, these women are not liberals. They're women who spoke out.
COULTER: They're always putting in forward — no, they say they need to be listened to, and we can't respond -- because they're victims.
COLMES: But you call them grieving, sobbing...
COULTER: Nobody likes being lectured by a victim.
COLMES: Do you think calling them "sobbing hysterical women" when these women had their husbands blown up by terrorist shows due respect to these grieving widows?
COULTER: You're leaving out the entire point of why they are even in the news and we're being — and we're talking about them. They injected themselves into the public debate. They're giving interviews, you know, and press conferences on public policy, on the response to 9/11.
COLMES: Yes. They get to speak out.
HANNITY: Let me move on here. I guess now we're going to accuse the president of using widows for — is that what I'm hearing?
COLMES: I don't know. Alan doesn't know that the president already has executive authority. That's why he's called the president.
HANNITY: Let me ask you this. One of the most provocative chapters. -- This is a provocative book. You only write provocative books.
COLMES: Thank you.
HANNITY: And you hit hard, because this is what you believe. And I want you to explain this, the chapter, "The Holiest Sacrament: Abortion." We don't want to talk about abortion it seems like any more in America.
COULTER: I think we may be at the point where the abortion ladies are finally going to be thrown off the boat. But they are the last ones the Democratic Party are going to throw out.
I mean, it is striking that Bill Clinton, the last Democrat that the Democrats have been able to trick the American people into putting in the White House, sold out basically every Democratic special interest group but one. He vetoed the partial birth abortion ban twice, which was passed by overwhelming majorities in the House and the Senate.
It's a gruesome procedure. It's opposed by vast numbers of Americans. I mean, it's like the death penalty in that way. And he vetoed it twice. That tells you how important abortion is to the Democratic Party.
HANNITY: I've been looking for it — you're going to be on my radio show tomorrow. We're going to be at a Book Review in Huntington, New York, doing a live radio show, and anyone can come see us, by the way.
COULTER: Except Alan.
HANNITY: No, Alan's welcome.
COLMES: I'm disappointed I wasn't in your book.
COULTER: I'm sorry.
HANNITY: But one of the points that you're really making as you read the entire book and you're saying "godless, the church of liberalism." What you're saying is that there is a moral foundation to the thinking of the left. And I want you to explain that in a little more detail, because you go into great detail in the book. But explain the philosophy behind this.
COULTER: Well, it is an entire cosmology, a view of the world, beliefs in the supernatural. I do think, something I don't get to until the end of the book, that at the root of the lot of it is — is their obsession with Darwinism and the Darwinian view of the world, which replaces sanctification of life with sanctification of sex and death. Sex and death. That's how you get the improvement in the species. And allegedly, the new species, which they've never been able to produce.
HANNITY: Talk a little bit about yourself, because to have — because I share most of your views. And I'm having a hard time — except your review of my book, which I did not like.
But I share...
COULTER: I thought you were too nice to liberals!
HANNITY: I share a lot of your views. But I want you to explain to everybody what is the foundation of Ann Coulter? Because a lot of people, when I mention your name to liberals they melt. You are like Alka-Seltzer in water. They bubble, fizz, give off their energy. You are the anti-Christ to them. Who is — what is the Ann Coulter? Where does your philosophy come from?
COULTER: Well, that's the toughest question I'm probably going to get on the book tour. In as much as I don't like talking about myself, I'm a Christian, and everything comes from being a Christian. Everything I do, I mean, from the interview that Alan was just reading from to Human Events.
I mean, I do think Christianity fuels all of my books, because you are called upon to behave in a certain way as a Christian, and that is to fight lies, injustice, cruelty, hypocrisy. That fuels everything.
HANNITY: All right. And I want to remind people, tomorrow, Book Review in Huntington. We're going to be there together from 2 to 6.
COLMES: By the way, this is great because on 6-6-06, we're one of the only shows to bring the anti-Crist to you.
So thank you for being with us.
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