Growing Frustration in Aruba

This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," July 5, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Natalee Holloway's (search) mother is literally begging for help. Natalee's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty (search), and Natalee's stepfather, George "Jug" Twitty are right here.

Beth, you're begging the world for help tonight.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MISSING GIRL'S MOTHER: I am, Greta. And I feel like they hear my pleas and I truly feel they feel the same frustration that Jug and I have been feeling.

VAN SUSTEREN: What exactly did you ask today at your press conference? What did you want?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: You know, my worst fear was that these two suspects, the Kalpoe brothers (search), since they are free to travel to any country they choose to, that they would act upon that. And that is a huge concern of mine.

VAN SUSTEREN: Jug, what's it like going through this? I mean, you've got have Beth getting on TV, going around the world today, begging for help.

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY, MISSING GIRL'S STEPFATHER: It's so very, very frustrating. The decision yesterday to let the two brothers loose was kind of devastating to us because we believe that they still have a lot of answers. You know, they've already lied two or three times in written statements. And to let them leave and then for them to tell us yesterday that, you know, anybody can go visit Joran now. I understood from the prosecutor yesterday that even the Kalpoe brothers could go in there and visit him in the cell. And if not that, at least the Kalpoe brothers' lawyer could go visit Joran in his cell. So I mean, what do you think they're going to talk about in there?

VAN SUSTEREN: Beth, I talked to one of the Kalpoe brother's lawyers. I'm going to play that interview a little later in the hour. But he said to me that the prosecutor was aggressively arguing for detention. It wasn't like she was just sort of sitting there. What did he tell you as the reason why these two were released?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Well, that kind of concerns me. I had not heard that. But I would just assume that she would be aggressively pursuing this and certainly expecting their detention. I thought it was a surprise to her, of course, as to Jug and I.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did she say something beforehand, you know, like, before the hearing, We're going to go in tomorrow, and I expect that the two Kalpoe brothers will be detained?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: You don't really get anything definitive, so I wouldn't want to say that. But I felt a pretty good assurance, you know, that those individuals would not be walking out of there. I really didn't even have that as a possibility.

VAN SUSTEREN: Where were you when the hearing happened? You couldn't attend the hearing.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: I was at my attorney's office, and I was at a building very close to the courthouse but not at the courthouse.

VAN SUSTEREN: Jug, is it frustrating to you that you can't even be present as the prosecutor lays out the evidence for the detention, so you can get some...

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: Sure. You're asking her a question, like, was she aggressive with her, you know, questions and wanted to try to get them detained or whatever. And if we were in there to see that, we would know that. But we weren't. We were at the courthouse. We were there at the courthouse at least an hour-and-a-half, waiting. It caused a huge media stir because they wouldn't let us go in. But Beth and I felt like we needed to be there just to see, you know, what's going on and to show everybody in the world that we're doing everything possible to try to find Natalee.

VAN SUSTEREN: Were you able to go to the courtroom door? Did you make it into the courtroom door?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Yes, we did. We made it inside the door, and they let us remain in an area right before you go into the closed-off areas. And we remained there until it closed at noon.

VAN SUSTEREN: Who told you the Kalpoe brothers were being released?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: FBI called me immediately.

VAN SUSTEREN: And said what? "I hate to tell you this," or, "Bad news," or, "Brace yourself"? What did the FBI say?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: You know, at this point, I just want facts, you know? As soon as they call me and they have it, just tell me what it is.

VAN SUSTEREN: Jug, the other day, not far from where we are, the three were taken to the beach. We've seen a lot of footage of it, in fact. Why do you think they did that?

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: I guess to retrace the crime scene or the last place they said that they took Natalee. Of course, this is, what, 35 days afterwards or whatever. And you know, the whole story, Greta, would have been totally different. My views would have been different on what's happening now had the boys kept the same story to start with. When I met the boy that night and his dad and the Kalpoe — and Deepak, and when they swore up and down that they dropped Natalee off at the Holiday Inn, that's what I went with. And then you go 12 days later, basically, after they're in jail, they change their story. And you know, they've got an answer. Why did they lie when they got in there?

VAN SUSTEREN: When you say you talked to them, that was the morning of the 31st at about 2:00 or 3:00 o'clock in the morning, that conversation?

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: Right. Correct.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was Deepak at that conversation?

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: Deepak was there, too?

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was this at Joran's home?

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: What was Deepak doing at Joran's home at that hour, do you know?

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: He was the one that brought Joran home. Supposedly, they were out gambling at 3:00 o'clock in the morning. Again, this is the good boy that doesn't go out on a school night at 3:00 o'clock in the morning, gambling at the Windham Hotel.

VAN SUSTEREN: Beth, how long can you stick this out?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Oh, I'm going to ride it out until the end. I am going to be here to the very end.

VAN SUSTEREN: There must be incredible ups and downs.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Oh, you know, there's so many setbacks. It's almost unimaginable how you have to gear up and feel like you're ready to go again. I felt like when they released Paul van der Sloot, that was a huge blow. I mean, yesterday was just absolutely an incredible blow. And I'll be honest. I felt like — you know — we're done. There will be no justice.

And you know, it's just unbelievable, all the supporters and the calls, and just like the greatest timing, you know, people will be calling or I'll read this e-mail or I'll read this letter, and I'm, like, You know, we're not defeated, you know? We're not. We're not there yet. And it just gives me that strength that I need to start gearing up, coming up with a new plan and going again.

VAN SUSTEREN: Every place I travel, people ask me about this, about this story. Where's Natalee? What's new? Is there anything you can tell the viewers tonight to give them one sort of glimmer of optimism that we're going to get information?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: You know, I feel like that we're so united it's just incredible. I feel like we're all on the same page and we're all headed for the same direction. And how could we all be wrong against this group of individuals?

VAN SUSTEREN: But how do we get the information? I mean, night after night, we sit and we struggle with this. How do we move it to the next step?

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: We've tried. I've tried every tactic. I think I've made every policeman, every person working on the case here, you know, mad. But you know, what I have to do as a stepfather to try to get Natalee back. The one thing that everybody asks me, why did we retain an attorney? Well, the way the system works down here, when the case is closed, we will have all that information, and we can release it to the world. And at that time — we know a lot now that we can't say. But at that time, the world will be absolutely shocked at what we know now. And that's why it was so devastating yesterday when they let those two boys go.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. If you could just stay with us for a second, we're going to take a quick break. We're going to have much more in just a moment.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

VAN SUSTEREN: We're back with Beth Holloway Twitty and Jug Twitty. Jug, has the prosecutor indicated to you whether or not she will seek to appealor she will appeal the release of Deepak and Satish?

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: If the prosecutor will appeal?

VAN SUSTEREN: Yes. Has the prosecutor told you whether she's going to?

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: No, she has not.

VAN SUSTEREN: Beth?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: It had been mentioned to me by my attorney, but I'm really not sure where they are with that.

VAN SUSTEREN: I don't get the sense — talking to everybody — that there's a lot of information forthcoming — and maybe that's just the system. But I don't get the sense you're getting a lot of answers. Am I wrong?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Hopefully, it's just the system, Greta.

VAN SUSTEREN: And that they're moving forward.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: No, I'm not going to say. I'm not sure. I'm not sure about that. I cannot comment. I cannot say that.

VAN SUSTEREN: You're getting a lot of support from the United States, particularly the U.S. Senate. Who's called you and who's supporting you?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Oh, from the United States? Oh, goodness. From Richard Shelby, Jeff Sessions, Trent Lott, Governor Riley.

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: Trent Lott called this morning.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Don Siegelman. There's a list...

VAN SUSTEREN: What do they say? Like, what did Senator Lott say when he called?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: You know, I think that just really giving me that assurance that I needed to pursue this, need to keep being aggressive as we are, and you know, don't let this go, support that, you know, should I find that I need, I can call on them. And you know, just giving me that confidence that — you know — we do need to pursue this, and we do not need to let this go.

VAN SUSTEREN: Jug, the thing that I still haven't sort of sorted out in terms of information are whether or not there's e-mail or text message traffic in the middle of the night, going into the 31st, between or among Deepak, Satish and Joran. Do you know whether there was?

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: I think there is.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you know, you know, what time it was, whether it's text message, whether it's e-mail, whether it's phone call or a combination?

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: They haven't told us exactly. I mean, I know that there is some messaging back and forth. Don't know exactly the times. I mean, they're real, real hush-hush with all that information.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you know, Beth?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: No, I don't. But there's something that really bothers me, and I don't think I've made any secrets about it, I've kept a journal of everything everyone said, what day, timeframes. And there's something that really has been bothering me as I read over and over my journal, is I know on the 31st that Paul van der Sloot stated that he picked Joran up at 4 a.m. at McDonald's. It was also said to me by a police spokesperson on June 16 and June 17 that Paul van der Sloot stated that he picked up Joran at 4 a.m. on the 31st at McDonald's. But I noticed on the day that I visited Paul van der Sloot at his home, all of a sudden, it was changed to 11 p.m.

VAN SUSTEREN: Perhaps there were two.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Could have been, Greta.

VAN SUSTEREN: Does your journal entry — because I've seen your journal, I've paged through it with you. Is there an entry in your journal which actually has that 4:30?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: And that was...

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: The 31st. That was from secondhand information. Now, that was not from...

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: We have witnesses that were there that night that heard...

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: ... ten witnesses.

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: But the problem is, he has the answers. They did not interrogate him when they took him into custody. I don't know what they did for the 48 hours he was in there, but I don't think they interrogated him. They sat there and talked, like you and I are talking now. And if you don't get the answer from him or Joran, and now Joran always is saying is, I don't have to say anything, and he can basically sit in there, the way I understand it, for 30 more days and say, I know nothing, and unless they find Natalee or a body, you know, we're no further than we are right now.

VAN SUSTEREN: Beth, does the prosecutor indicate to you at any point that she has any evidence of a crime, other than, I mean, that you have your missing daughter...

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Not definitively.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you get the sense that the prosecutor is candid with you, that is you like it is?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: I don't know if I could guess that or not. I don't know if I could.

VAN SUSTEREN: Terribly tough, isn't it, going through this.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Oh. Oh. Oh, it is.

VAN SUSTEREN: Beth, Jug, thank you both very much.

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: And thank you, Greta.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Thank you, Greta.

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