BECKEL: I don't need you to speak slower -- I can keep up with you. Most people can't, but I can.
O'REILLY: Ok. Here's the question that I will rephrase. Is it war mongering to put Putin in an economic corner where he may lash back militarily?
BECKEL: Absolutely not. Why?
O'REILLY: So then that's not war mongering.
BECKEL: No, of course not.
O'REILLY: But I'm putting him in a corner.
BECKEL: War is war. That is war. War is us going to war.
O'REILLY: Economic war.
BECKEL: You can do economic war. That's not warmongering. If you decide you are going to cut off oil and gas to the Europeans, if they are willing to have the guts to do it, then that's not warmongering, that's choking this guy economically.
O'REILLY: Ok but that might start a shooting war.
BECKEL: War with who? Who is he going to shoot?
O'REILLY: He's going to shoot. Russia, I hate to break this to you, has the capacity to overrun Eastern Europe. They could do it if they wanted.
BECKEL: They could not overrun Eastern Europe.
O'REILLY: Sure they could. Who's going to fight him?
BECKEL: Poland is a member of NATO. We would go in there at that point. That would be warmongering, if you attack a country that we have in a relationship, relationship to protect then --
O'REILLY: Then you'd be ok with it.
BECKEL: I would certainly be -- but he doesn't have - he's not going to do that.
O'REILLY: All right.
BECKEL: The worse thing that could happen to him was that Malaysian Airliner shot down -- worse thing that ever happened to him.
O'REILLY: Iran, would we be warmongering if we say to Iran if you do not stop nuclear weapon development, we and Israel are going to bomb you is that warmongering?
BECKEL: That's going to war for a good reason.
O'REILLY: That's justified?
BECKEL: That's justified.
O'REILLY: All right. All right, Beckel, you are sounding kind of cogent.
BECKEL: Thank you.
O'REILLY: You know. Did you get a lot of sleep last night?
BECKEL: I'm just debating you and I don't find you as intimidating as a lot of people do.
O'REILLY: No. You like this don't you.
BECKEL: I do very much.
O'REILLY: Because you know why. You know why you like this?
O'REILLY: Because people actually see you.
BECKEL: I think they see me on "THE FIVE". We are not that far behind you, O'Reilly. (Inaudible) That's all right.
O'REILLY: It's a different audience.
BECKEL: You have always been number one I have got to give you credit for that. But it isn't going to last forever.
O'REILLY: Well, you know, when I leave it won't. But as long as I'm here.
BECKEL: When you leave I won't believe it.
O'REILLY: Here's the deal. If we're not number one when I am here I start a war.
BECKEL: Good go ahead.
O'REILLY: I'm going to warmonger. I'm going to wag the dog.