• With: Bob Costas

    So it's cool in the NFL and in the NBA and these things for some athletes to carry a gun? Would you say that's true?

    COSTAS: All I can tell you is since I made these comments, I have heard from players, past and present; from coaches; from executives in the NFL --

    O'REILLY: Right.

    COSTAS: -- saying they are -- they have long been alarmed and concerned by the number of players who cavalierly believe that you have to have a gun.

    We now see, in text messages between Jovan Belcher and a friend, he's complaining that Kasandra Perkins may have had a boyfriend and he may have had a girlfriend on the side, whatever. We haven't sorted this out yet.

    But he's complaining about it. And his buddy says, you'd better get yourself a gun. And he says, "I have eight of them." Now, the buddy didn't say you'd better get a samurai sword. You'd better get a lead pipe like Professor Plum in the conservatory. He said get a gun.

    I am not the least bit afraid to talk about the gun culture, to talk about domestic violence. I thought it was self-evident that this was a domestic violence case, self-evident to talk about the effects that football and the culture of football have on many of the people who play it. I've done it before and I'll do it again. I will look for places where there's more time to do it.

    In retrospect, I -- I don't back up on anything I said. But I think it might have been more effective if I said, look, if we're looking for perspective on this, we're going to have to have a serious discussion within sports, an ongoing discussion, not five minutes of -- of faux tears about it, but a serious discussion about domestic violence, about the culture of the game itself, about the easy access to guns, about steroid drugs and alcohol. And in the future, we will soon do that. I think that would have been more effective --


    O'REILLY: Ok.

    COSTAS: -- and would have led to --


    O'REILLY: Yes, I mean --

    COSTAS: -- less misunderstanding --

    O'REILLY: -- you don't want --

    COSTAS: -- of where I was coming from.

    But I was talking about a drug -- a -- a gun culture. I never used the word "Second Amendment". Never used the words "Gun Control":


    O'REILLY: Well, and I think you were unfairly tarred there.

    COSTAS: I cannot think of a single instance involving a professional athlete whereby that athlete having a gun averted or diminished a dangerous situation. But I can give you a long list of tragedies that came about because guys were packing.

    O'REILLY: All right. Thanks for coming in here, Costas. It's good to see you, man.

    COSTAS: Thank you, O'Reilly.

    O'REILLY: All right.

    COSTAS: Merry Christmas.

    O'REILLY: Any time you get in trouble, you come right here. We'll get you out of it.

    COSTAS: Yes. I know you have security here.

    O'REILLY: Lots of it.

    COSTAS: Yes.

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